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7081  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin drop about 20% after Lloyd Blankfein comments. on: December 05, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
CEO of the USA Investment bank, Lloyd Blankfein said "something that move 20 overnight do not feel like a currency. It is vehicles to perpetrate fraud" after this comment on Thursday bitcoin lose over 20% and I was panic to sell off my holding. But thank God the bitcoin has started recovering as we can see that it is currently above $9,700. I think this is another caculated attacked on bitcoin image in other to create FUD.
Some Nobel prize winner did say something along these lines and did not see much of the market been moved and Lloyds recent remarks were just a coincidence that bitcoin temporary lost this 20% which I believe shows that it is not a mere speculative currency.
I think by now we should already understand that no matter what they say about bitcoins, it has no effect on the current state of the investors on it. There's so much interested in bitcoin that not even China could do it. Maybe that's just a coincidence really that when he release his statement bitcoin drop a little.

But it has rebounded beautifully to $12K today, so that effect is short term only, if indeed those words from the critics has impact on the price. I wouldn't listen anymore to those who are attacking bitcoin, the words coming out of their mouth is non-sense and complete garbage.

I hope the OP have understood what we all been saying here. And please don't bother to listen to those butt-hurt bashers.
7082  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN milestone 10000$. Continue to rise or not??? on: December 05, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
BTC BITCOIN milestone 10000$.  Continue to rise or not???

I heard the bitcoin now is continue to rise and rise rapidly . Do you think it will affect the value of ICO and some altcoins?
Looking at when you dropped this and now, I guess it is something we cannot really say.

Bitcoin has already passed the $10,000 stage, but I doubt if with the little correction right now, it is going to go back to hit above $15,000. I am highly astonished for now, and I just would not even care trying to see where bitcoin is headed to, but I guess we just have to see what happens from now.
Yes, I haven't seen it is just touch $12000 today because the price is almost at that level. Of course there will be correction some time, but I can't really see it happening this week or even this month of December. Bitcoin has still some leg room to get $15000 will all the positive news going around.

Yes, BITCOIN will continue the up trend. i guest BTC will hit 13k $ then make correction in beginning 2018 and continues uptrend until hit 15k$. so if you want to hold, release at 13k-14k $. that is my guess.
Bitcoin will come back under 8k$ in the beginning 2018 because at this time , some Asia countries will cele Luna New Year as China, Japan, VietNam .... and a lot of bitcoins are saved by users of those countries so I think they will sell some in this event.
I don't know what you are saying here. I think it should be the opposite, why would they dump their coins if the price is going up? Yes, they save their bitcoin for some future event but I have serious doubt that the price could go down to $8000.

As like everyone, I think bitcoin jumped higher that I have expected. It's price every week is ridiculously overboard and starting to think that it can move more upwards since everyone is interested to hop on. With more people being attracted to bitcoins growth it will be possible to reach higher marks not just in the future but very soon.
Since prices are already high, miners are getting scarce, I think soon, growth will be slower.
Its a little bit scary but you can really stop people jumping on bitcoin because there's a lot of good news like CBOE offering bitcoin future contracts starting Dec 11 and CME on Dec 18. Growth will continue but I don't think it will be slower.
7083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: the price of ethereum increased on: December 04, 2017, 05:10:23 PM
Since most of the other altcoins started to lose value they also lost the trust of investors. That directed investors to safer and well know coins like ethereum and bitcoin ofcourse. I personally would not invest in a some unknow so called promising coin when the markets are unstable. All these reasons helped ethereum to gain more and more value.
Ethereum has gotten a lot of investors renewed there interest on it, that's why the price also hits all-time-high. Ethereum has already gained the trust the investors, but with so many hacks, somewhat most investors shun and move to bitcoin. But lately there is a surge again, I don't know what the reason is, but maybe they think that Ethereum is under valued and needs more attention because it has one advantage that bitcoin doesn't have - smart contracts.

these days, the price of ethereum continues to rise,.

what causes the increase in the price of the ethereum?


A lot of altcoyins are created on the basis of Ethereum, in order to buy them on the stock exchange, you must first buy Ethereum, so the demand is high and the price so quickly grows. I think this is not the limit and in the near future we will see 1000+ $ !!!
Not so fast with the $1000 prediction. It looks getting twice as to what the current price is. It will touched $1000 but I think in the next 2-3 years. We know that Ethereum is being pumped, but I seriously question if they can push the price to 4 digits. Maybe if there's another company that will take advantage of its smart contract technology, then we can see the price pushing to $1000.
7084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or Ethereum: Which is the Future Cryptocurrency on: December 04, 2017, 03:43:37 PM
Eth and bitcoin have good future, they are the best coins ever. ETH to send lower fee and bitcoin to send big amount of cash. I think you better keep both of them in your wallet. 2018 there will be a big future of cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin is the KIng and eth below the king.
Both of them have good future indeed. But if you are looking for investment long term, the best choice is bitcoin. Ethereum has different purposes, its smart contract, but bitcoin is designed for micro payments but I don't see it happening in the future. It has now started to be a store of wealth. But there's nothing about it. As long as we are benefiting from it, there's no harm.

Yes, its better to have Ethereum as well, at least diversify. We don't know what the future holds, so you have options. I'm saying that we need to hold both of them long term like 1 year minimum to see and get a nice profit. If you hold less than that then you will not get the full potential of both coins.
7085  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Will hit 13k? on: December 04, 2017, 01:47:00 PM
Any possibilities for a 13k run since there is a new fork in BTC ?
It is just me or I'm missing something here? What fork are you talking here and care to give us the link?

And if indeed there is a new fork on the horizon, there is no guarantee that it can push the price to $13K. We can get to $13K, I have to doubt about it but its how we get there. Bitcoin future contracts alone for me is generally positive to the market that can push the price to this levels.

That's possible. I see some huge announcement recently like CME to add Bitcoin to their platform. CME is known major financial market in the world. This is a huge announcement for Bitcoin this year and expect other major financial markets to follow in the future like NASDAQ or NYSE. I think $13k is very achievable. Right now it's price is already at $11k+. It's just 2 grand to achieve that. Tha is small if were to ask. Actually im predicting Bitcoin to hit $15k before this year ends. In addition for this, is the upcoming hardfork. I think it will happen at the mid of this month.
Exactly, it will be very interesting to see financial institutions implement their bitcoin future contracts like CME is doing. Although is too early to tell, but it opens the doors for institutional money to flow into the bitcoin ecosystem. As far as price manipulations, there's that possibility, that's why we need to be very careful as well.
7086  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Amazon accepting Bitcoin - What can go wrong? on: December 03, 2017, 07:31:53 PM
In my opinion, i think bitcoin need to improve the speed of transaction. Bitcoin is really useful and convenient  in many way as no difficult procedure, no inflation and incognito. However, to be accepted as a way of payment by retailer or online shopping webs, bitcoin need to improve many disadvantages and retailer must have a different and detail way for bitcoin's payment because bitcoin absolutely out of regular payment like cash. Finally, i still glad to see bitcoin will be used as a payment for everything in future, it has much of advantages and applies bitcoin for payment will bring much benefit for retailer and customer.
I think it has improved a lot because mempool is not that clogged anymore. But to really improved in LN should be implement but that is just another story. That's why when bitcoin price beginning to go up, I think it has defeated its own purpose of being a micro-payment transaction. Now people think of it as a form of investment. So it will really take more time for bitcoin to be accepted and adopted by most merchants today.

they accepting bitcoin because they are smart enough and they accepted what is the future currency of all people that are still increasing up today. amazon is one of the most popular market now and they will be in the future.
You got it right Sir, Amazon is smart and good in business strategy that's why they know the demand of the market using bitcoin and different altcoins as well. No wonder how Amazon become one of the leading company specially in United States. They want to go on the evolution of technology using the bitcoin for the future and beyond.
If they aren't smart, Amazon will not grow as the #1 largest online retailer in the world. But it would take some time for them to really accept bitcoin now. They have to look at how the market of bitcoin is, potential earnings, their clients and so on. I also wish that Amazon should accept it today, but I have uneasy feeling that it will take some time for them to recognized bitcoin and readily accept it as mode of payment.
7087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH vs CMT on: December 03, 2017, 07:00:07 PM
One the most important feature at that table is absent - the founders. Ethereum succeed mostly because of Buterin. There are a lot of smart contract platforms, but nevertheless ETH remains and will be the number one for very long time imo.
The articles has nothing such proof to offer. And with Viltalik Buterin almost at the top of Ethereum scene, I'm not surprised that this coin is really popular not just because of him, but the development and the features that this coin has to offer specially its smart contracts. As for CMT, I agree, its too early to tell, Ethereum has so much head start already, its really hard to overtake it as of the moment.

Cybermiles is a good project and has great potential but comparing it to eth as of this moment, i guess its a bit odd and they both are on different planes.  Cybermiles have amazing aspects and maybe in the near future it can overcome eth, we will never know since everything in the crypto community is uncertain. Although, eth have already established itself and gained a lot of investors and adopted by many icos hence, comparing the two isn't right as of this moment.
As I have said, CMT has a lot to do if they want to take Ethereum at least. Another advantage of Ethereum is that they have already established as alternatives to bitcoin in forms of ICO investment. And most ERC20 tokens are based on Ethereum so that alone is the biggest hurdle that CMT has to overtake if they want to challenged Ethereum.
7088  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: it's crazy on: December 03, 2017, 06:25:51 PM
Revolution or not, we have to feel lucky we’re alive at this current stage of the bitcoin economy. Bitcoins have already made a ton of people rich and I think it will continue to do so.

Alt coins on the other hand, are the next major investment. Since they tackle existing problems with bitcoins, I’m certain they have a lot more potential in price than BTC does.
In addition to that, its still not to late to join this revolution and enjoy being rich as well in the future. As far as altcoins, they have been created to improved bitcoin problems, like Ethereum, but I really doubt that investors will jump on them now. Maybe in 5 years or so, if a new coin is reborn and started to excite people once again as bitcoin did.

one of millioner bet on digital currency is now worth billion Smiley
just million converted into billion Cool
You should at least post a link so that members here have an idea on what you want us to discuss.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/12/02/winklevoss-twins-become-first-bitcoin-billionaires/

In summary, Winklevoss twins bought bitcoins at $11M 4 years ago and now it worth billions of dollar.
7089  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CME Group to launch bitcoin futures contract on Dec. 18 on: December 03, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
All rumors would about big institutions offering services related to crypto would turn out to be true eventually. This is something that's going be be happening more and more lately as bitcoin is reaching a point where only institutional adoption would get it further, but if it happens there is potential for a big increase even from that point on. Institutions are recognizing that, and along with the interest form big investors, they are now investing in offering BTC-related services.
Those big financial institutions by now should realized that bitcoin is here to stay for good. And they can't really ignore the fact the bitcoin and crypto's, how much they bashed, attacked it, will be the wave of investments. More clients of them are clamoring to include bitcoin in their contracts, that's why CME give in to them.

And yes, this is definitely a great news to see. Specially that 5 digits has been touched, bitcoin ecosystem will get a fresh members being admitted and all aboard with the hype train.

Government will bow to the will of the people according to their democratic dogma. Cryptocurrency is the people's will.
It's financial institutions that we are talking about here. Government is different though, they wouldn't just bow to the people's will as you have mentioned. Look at data, there's still a lot of countries choosing to ban bitcoin like China and Russia.
7090  Economy / Speculation / Re: Soo Soon ? BCH - BTC on: December 02, 2017, 09:12:01 AM
Grin Grin Grin
People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry   . Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy  Kiss


Anyone else sees this coming?

it is always worth if you are waiting now because the price will increase again. you will get your profit soon and be patient for this. I made a profit too from selling BCH to BTC and right now, I still have another BCH at the low price Grin I can waiting for more just to see the price back increases. the bitcoin price is trying to increase again and the altcoin change to the red zone again but now, I see altcoin price is trying to increase because yesterday bitcoin price is down.
I think you should have dump your BCH-BTC because BTC have gone up to touch $11K again. I think BCH will somewhat just stabilizes above $1K while BTC has touches new all-time-high again. No way you should more time to dump BCH otherwise you will have missed to opportunity to get huge profit.

I have dump BCH before and I have no regrets about my move. We all know that this coin is just used by few individuals to really take profit like what they did before. It doesn't make sense to me plus they did it buy attacking BTC itself which is the first and only mistake they did that's why the community shun away from their tactic.
7091  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mark Cuban douchebag on: December 01, 2017, 06:20:28 PM
So why is he always spouting off about how btc is in a bubble and will fall hard soon and continues to be proven wrong but he just keeps flapping his gums? Is he that butthurt he didn't buy when it was cheap or is he that stupid he doesn't understand what btc is?
All the sharks in the sharktank are fucking assholes, but he is really embarrasing himself.
He has been a douchebag and will remain as that. Don't bother to listen to him. He is mad because he is left out when all of his billionaires friends have already heavily invested on bitcoin. And he becomes irrelevant when they talk all about it when they meet. LOL.

He try to be relevant though by attacking bitcoin early around mid year if I'm not mistaken. But it has backfired on him. Last time I heard, he's stance has somewhat softened, and from his tweets, it looks like he has began investing on it. No one can really moved a immovable object like bitcoin. It has gain a lot of supporters and investors and Mark has missed the boat.

And yes, we have the same sentiments, he is butthurt because he wasn't able to buy it when the price is really cheap. He needs to go back and lick Dirk. LOL.
7092  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Oh Crap! Better Enjoy This Moment in Bitcoin History! on: December 01, 2017, 03:58:52 PM
Oh well, it has been confirmed already by the CME group. So indeed this is another milestones in bitcoin history. The price is again picking up at $10.5K. Final date is December 18. So its more than 2 weeks from now but I  think we can surely see a spike down the road specially as we inch closer to the date.

But for me, those well known personalities are still divided, whether bitcoin is a bubble or not. But now that the CME group is joining in the fray, I still don't know if they can still call it a bubble. LOL. There will be ongoing debate, drama's, name callings etc. But I don't think that bitcoin will be deterred by all of this. Its just another day at the office.

What I don't like though is that it CME will offer a regulated trading platform. But I may be wrong in my interpretation here.
7093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CRYPTO DOOMS DAY? on: November 30, 2017, 04:20:37 PM
Someone is manipulating the market,few days back BTC bullrun i think investors put their money on that day
Yesterday BTC/USD + ALT/USD exchanges pumps,clear they converted the BTC to USD

Today all the coins are bleeding only 4/200 has price increase

is this the end of the crypto?

Yes, they are bleeding but the end of crypto? NO

Are you here when the Chinese fakes news or whatever happened in September? Bitcoin drop at a rate of more than 30%. And I don't know about the alt but I'm sure that they have been affected as well. If you were already here I'm sure you are all going crazy that time seeing the price plummeting to the floor after enjoying all time highs specially bitcoin.

take a deep breath and step away from computer.... Go take your dog for a walk, visit some family and friends Smiley smell some flowers or enjoy fresh new snow... for the love of god just step away from what ever you are doing now Smiley this is not for faint hearted and asking if this is the end of crypto you seems to be one of does Smiley Smiley

Come back tomorrow or day after and you will see there was nothing to worry about Smiley too much money is invested into crypto for it to wanish just like that Smiley  
Pick any one from the suggestions above. When I was just starting, I will just go walk around the neighborhood to take my mind to what's happening. You should do the same.  Smiley

As you continue your journey in crypto you will see a lot of bleeding along the way, this is not the first. But you will learn how to react with this kind of scenario when you mature enough. And if someone is manipulating, it will not last and only be temporary, they can't manipulate price when there is a lot of investors who already poured their cash in the market.


7094  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Dumping!! on: November 30, 2017, 03:40:46 PM
Before I use to worry whenever I saw the bitcoin price drop a and I admitted there comes a time that I do the panic selling mode and I regret that, this pump and dump is what makes bitcoin a top crypto currency today and yes it is very volatile but we must not worry and enjoy the opportunity whenever the value drops because for sure after some quite time it will recover and can even give a much higher price. Just enjoy the pump and dump  Wink
Yes, bitcoin have demonstrated in the past that if its value has drop, the next thing that it going to happen is that the price will rebound and can achieve even greater price as its previous all-time-high, so all of us should not be disappointed to see the price going down.

On the contrary, this is really a good buying opportunity. I learned this the hard way when I was just starting. I will panic sell and push the button whenever I see the price dipping. And soon I realized that I'm making the wrong move. I should be buying in this dip instead of selling. I guess all of us experience this kind of anguish and apprehension before.

And it you look at the market right now, its not only bitcoin who is bleeding, but the rest of altcoin as well. So maybe there is some serious corrections that we are going to see in the next few days. Just hold and don't sell. There's is no point of dumping today.
7095  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Someone experience with www.whinkel.be on: November 30, 2017, 11:28:10 AM
I found this today and it sounds OK.
Not to cheap and a "normal" looking page.
https://www.whinkel.be/antminer-s9

Has someone experience with this shop?


Never experienced buying one from them. What do you mean sounds OK? what don't you just buy items from bitmain itself? A lot of scam sites are out there and don't be another statistics for the scammer. If you are willing to go to mining then I advise you to put out a good amount of investment. Its better to be safe here than lose your money here.

They are scammers, stay away!

I made order of some Antminer devices and Routers etc, routers were in stock but they refuse to ship since 2 weeks.

STAY AWAY!
I'm sorry for you lost mate. You are another unsuspecting victim and fall for this scammers. As for the OP, learn the mistakes of this member. At least he gives you a fair warning so stay away from that site. As a advise, just order them to bitmain for your security. Although it will take some time to be delivered, at least you know that you can't be scam by the manufacturer itself.
7096  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO][Signature] 🔥💥 Angel Token ICO 🔥💥 up to $150/week in BTC on: November 29, 2017, 06:43:18 AM
I'm also leaving the campaign. Thank you for the opportunity. Posting here for your reference regarding my post count from previous week.
7097  Economy / Services / Re: [Full Member+]🚀💲 ModulTrade Signature Campaign 🚀💲[Up to 0.025 BTC]🚀💲 on: November 28, 2017, 11:26:17 PM
Bitcointalk name: Reatim
Bitcointalk account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721609
Rank: Sr. Member
Current post count -(including this one): 254
BTC Address: 15U2xStSKXYEPh62iXTSjZXCrknTBUjcsE

Will update everything once accepted.
7098  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitmainsales.com trustworthy? on: November 28, 2017, 02:53:38 PM
Well the title basically asks my question i was hoping you guys could help me out. On https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/bitmainsales.com its rated a 67% so i was just wondering if i should order from them or not.

Fairly new websites:

Domain Name: BITMAINSALES.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2185038653_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2017-11-09T03:46:36Z
Creation Date: 2017-11-09T03:38:12Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-11-09T03:38:12Z
Registrar: NameCheap Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Name Server: LADY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LARS.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM

So that's smells a scam site. Be very careful. A lot of scammers is out there to take advantage of cryptocurrency popularity. My advise, stay away as it is a potential scammer.
7099  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The end of BitConnect on: November 28, 2017, 01:51:05 PM
From the very beginning I already suspected that BitConnect would likely end in a scam. Fortunately for me, I have put funds in there but as I recheck everything the returns is not that good so I immediately pull out my funds like 5 months ago. I'm happy that I made the correct decision and seeing how the news came out, I wouldn't surprise at all.

Unfortunately Bitconnect has made a lot of users until now which are potential victims when such event happens as I believe it will happen. A lot of marketing for this system, from massive Youtube videos to lots and lots of facebook pages and sponsorship still continues. I see this popping up in my facebook account very open from a sponsored page. We cannot do much except warn people here but usually people here don't care about warnings as we have seen with many other ponzies before. I believe bitconnect is a big scam.
I agree which I do see it everywhere specially on social medias which do really piss me a lot since there are lots of victims will surely fall into this and they are really serious on their marketing  which is normal for a Ponzi scheme type coin.I don't see any thing special on this one but rather I do see failure ahead since it is not really sustainable for long term.Better to get out early on profits than on being greedy and end up on having a hole in your pocket.

I see this a bit difficult as I have a friend which no matter how hard I warned him not to join he did join them. He added not a small amount now 0.127 bitcoin and unfortunately he needs 8 months until he can move the funds out from bitconnect, a time I don't believe bitconnect will be still with us. I don't see him get lucky and get his money back at that time but who knows, other ponzies have resisted more than 1 year so he may get his money back.
Actually I also have a friend, who I enticed to join, however, I already told him to get out and not fall for the trap. He added and then reinvested again. I don't know how much he already invested but our last communication, he say's its .5 BTC already.
7100  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Join telegram group for latest cryptocurrency news, forecasts and trends on: November 27, 2017, 08:58:29 PM
There are a lot of Telegram groups out there. What makes you think that people should join? What can you offer that other telegram groups don't have. Do you consider yourself as pump-and-dump groups?

What is your basis for making your forecast and predictions? What is our forecast results accuracy? You using certain algorithm? or develop your own in making your forecast?

Thank you for your questions, all the answers are on our ICO site and the related Whitepaper
https://roboadvisorcoin.com/

Briefly we realized our own algorithm based on machine learning, since years we are working in time series predictions fields in the "traditional" financial markets,
since August we are trying to do the same on coins and tokens.
The basis, of course, are financial, statistics and maths.
Pardon me, I didn't know that you have a ICO and I thought that this is just another group for pump-and-dump. Another question though, I'm sure that you already know that crypto markets operates differently as compare to "traditional" financial markets, so what might work on traditional market might not be applicable to crypto.

And since you are using it to interpolate data in crypto, do you think it will be effective in using and applying to the crypto industry?

Will go to your Whitepaper now. Thanks.
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