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7081  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The real reason white supremacists like saddampbuh are so anti-semitic on: September 22, 2016, 01:27:58 AM
we aryans are the god men and overcoming impossible odds is what we do best...

I suggest you take-up-arms, join a militia, and GTFO of these forums if you want to make a meaningful difference then. Those impossible odds and all...

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dont make your life about looking for models to fornicate with and eating ice cream


What?

No ice cream?
7082  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 22, 2016, 01:25:13 AM
RE:  "No party is offering a car"

Only Oprah gives away massive numbers of cars!

Obama gave away ObamaPhones!

"Obama Phone" Remix (parody song) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr201FqTP4w



LOL, I happened the day before yesterday to run across a plastic envelope with the actual application and sales pitch for a free Obama phone.  I have it still but have not read it.

7083  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 21, 2016, 05:54:37 PM
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

Consensus among scientists from different fields of studies says that the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years.
But it's not that I "think", you cannot "guess" the age of the world. You need evidence. it's the result of measures done by hundreds of scientists, with hundreds of experiments. And they are all consistent with each other (minus the margin of error stated before).

The scientific model is based on the idea that certain things in the universe have been going on throughout all time, similarly as they are going on today. Take carbon dating, for example.

Carbon dating is based on the idea that the C-14 content on earth, in the atmosphere, has been relatively the same for at least hundreds of thousands of years. But nobody knows that this is the fact. If the amount of C-14 forming, has been increasing very slowly over the years - so slowly that nobody could see or measure the increase -  there is the potential that there was little to no C-14 back beyond 5,000 years ago. This would mean that carbon dating numbers are extremely far off... by as much as millions or billions of years. And this kind of mistaken thinking is the same kind that permeates virtually all of the scientific thinking on the dating subject.

The furthest science can go back with any accuracy at all is about 4,500 years. And even this is shaky. It is based on dating pottery and buildings from the distant past. Comparing the writings of ancient peoples and nations from beyond 3,000 years ago shows discrepancies in the writings that indicate that we don't know how to read dead languages correctly, or else the people of those days wrote historical fiction like we write science fiction today.

On the other hand, Moses lived and wrote 3,500 to 3,600 years ago. He had been a prince of Egypt, with access to whatever writings this great nation had back then. We can trust his writings because of the stubbornness of ancient Israel. This stubbornness is born out in the writings of the scribes of Israel. Bible books from the Dead Sea scrolls of over 2,000 years ago, are essentially the same as they are in our modern Bibles.

This means that we can place faith in the things that Moses wrote for us in the first 5 books of the Bible, way more than we can place faith in the writings of today's scientists. In fact, today's scientists tell us right in their writings that they are actually guessing as to the age of things.

The point is, the earth and universe are less than 7,000 years old, and probably only 6,200 years old. See http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm for how this is calculated out in the Bible. If the universe is much older than 6,200 years, the age cannot be calculated, because time and the space-time continuum operated differently before that time.

Cool

Wow this is some good bullshit right here lol. So  if the Universe is 7000 years old how do you explain the fact that there is light that we see from other stars that took longer than 7, 000 years to reach us. (on that note your entire creationist blog that you just wrote for us has been debunked)

the point is science is more than just carbon dating alone, its carbon dating combined with multiple other sciences that we base our facts on. Science facts do not get formed from people inferring things after only viewing  one piece of scientific evidence, that is what you just did and accused scientists of doing. (pot calling the kettle black over here)

What about Snow ice?, which is yet another very accurate form of dating things or also Layers in sediment. Creationists use the same tricks over and over. They try and focus on one point and make it sound like the facts are derived from that point alone. Its nothing new here...

There's sedimentary rock, as another example.  How does it form?  How long does it take?

Another is gold.  It takes millions of years to form veins of gold in rock.  How does that happen?

Geological processes are fascinating.

Then there are the processes on the moon.  They are very different than those on earth.  They are a simple, direct sort of proof of the age of the Earth/Moon system.
7084  Other / Politics & Society / Re: World is Becoming batlle ground on: September 21, 2016, 11:45:58 AM
If there is tension and war in the Middle East, the price of oil goes up, and those nations benefit economically from this.
7085  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump was right about going after terrorists' families on: September 21, 2016, 11:42:58 AM



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Remember after San Bernardino, when Donald Trump said that the family must have known about the planned attack and done nothing? Remember when he was called a racist for that, because of course the family members were all just isolated, special snowflake individuals who couldn’t possibly have been aware of what was happening?

Well, it seems that this latest case is a wee bit different.

New York Post:

The wife and mother of the Afghan immigrant suspected in the New York and New Jersey bombings left the US for the Middle East just a few days before the attacks, according to reports.

Ahmad Khan Rahami’s wife, Asia Bibi Rahami, has been intercepted by authorities in the United Arab Emirates after leaving the US for Pakistan, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Officials are working with authorities in Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates to question her about what she knew about her husband’s plans, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Yeah, I’m sure they’re excited to help their enemies question their own people.

smdh

Rahami’s mother, Najiba Rahami, left for Turkey three weeks before the attacks and has not yet returned to the US, a US official to ABC News.

Rahami, a naturalized US citizen, made at least three months-long trips to Pakistan and Afghanistan since 2014, officials said.

He stayed in Pakistan for a year between April 2013 and March 2014, spending time in a Taliban stronghold, CNN reported.

Rahami has clammed up and is refusing to cooperate with authorities, a source told The Post.
http://www.dailystormer.com/chelsea-bombing-terrorists-family-escaped-america-days-before-attack/

CNN does not and will not utter the words "Islamic Terrorist" with respect to this event.

In fact they were on air yesterday wondering and speculating about why he did what he did.
7086  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 21, 2016, 02:13:53 AM
....

Stars, Planets, asteroids, dust, animals, man etc. are made of visible matter... it can be seen, and touched.

95% of the remaining universe is made of black matter... matter that cannot be seen or touched, yet exists.


There is no vacuum in outer space, it is filled with dark matter and dark energy...

95% of the universe is not made of the same material we are made of.

Why do you think God must be of the same material that our body is made of?



Can anyone on this forum answer this question?

Sure.   Dark matter and dark energy are not of interest in these respects.  And of course there is vacuum in outer space.  You show some misunderstandings, then try to make things even worse by bringing fictional constructs in such as "God."

Next, there is the question as to whether, if there were a "God" it would have to be constructed either of regular matter or dark matter.  This is a nonsensical question, since both are "part of this universe" and could not exist prior to it.

Pretty much without exception when people invoke physics and cosmology to prove a God, they get it all ridiculously wrong.
7087  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian murdered in latest Bangladesh attack on: September 21, 2016, 02:07:11 AM
I have never understood the motive of ISIS or any other terrorist group. Most of them claim to be muslims but whatever they are doing is even against the Islamic teachings. They end up killing everybody including their own 'brothers and sisters'. I think these are just psychologically challenged people using religion as their scapegoat.

Sez who?  YOU?

Their claims for being muslims and having the correct view on Islamic teachings is not without a sound basis.  Islamic teachings can be interpreted many ways.

Deal with it.
7088  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 20, 2016, 03:55:16 AM


Agreed!!!   Because Hillary is black!  Wink (She thinks she's an honorary "Sister,")  bwahahahahahahaha

They give her big receptions only b/c she lies about caring for families & children ---  and b/c black people are desperately afraid of Trump.

Okay, I have a confession here.   I see Trump as far more black than Obama.

Any of the bros' who think Hitlery's an honorary sister need to think of some of the other words they call da girls.

Say Whaaaa?  Trump ain't black. Trump ain't got no rhythm!  He got no Obama Phone!!!!  --------> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

I'll say it, though.  Hillary is a beeeeotch!

Remember that song by Michael Jackson & Paul McCartney?  "Ebony & Orangey?"   Grin
I be thinking some mo words fo dat H.

Now see here that Trump dude.  

Yeah he ain't purfect.  

Lord knows I ain't too.

But that jive talk that dude got?

That some good shit there.

Seriously, I think Trump has a general idea of how to fix the systemic problems in the black communities that Democrats have caused.  I do not think they purposefully caused the problems.  They were well intentioned.  Can we just say mistakes were made and it's high time to correct them?
7089  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 20, 2016, 03:15:26 AM


Agreed!!!   Because Hillary is black!  Wink (She thinks she's an honorary "Sister,")  bwahahahahahahaha

They give her big receptions only b/c she lies about caring for families & children ---  and b/c black people are desperately afraid of Trump.

Okay, I have a confession here.   I see Trump as far more black than Obama.

Any of the bros' who think Hitlery's an honorary sister need to think of some of the other words they call da girls.
7090  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuelans Swarm Past Border In Search of Food: "We Crossed Because ... on: September 20, 2016, 03:11:11 AM
its a shame chavez didn't do more to build the country up and improve self sufficiency instead of handing out welfare to indians through the good years, they really missed an opportunity over there

This issue is not just limited to Venezuela. Almost all the Latin American governments are like this. They play with populism, showering the voters with unviable subsidies and freebies. Still, I am sad with what happened to Venezuela. That country had the potential to become one of the richest nations in Latin America, due to the vast mineral resources (petroleum, natural gas, bauxite.etc).

Chavez did his part pretty well. When he assumed power, a large part of the Venezuelan population was living in slums and shanty towns, in horrible conditions. He improved the healthcare and municipal amenities in these settlements. He even brought doctors from Cuba to serve the poor people. But unfortunately, he was a complete failure in persuading these slum dwellers to work. They liked his freebies, and they wanted them forever.

So rather than spending the money in improving the education and infrastructure, Chavez spent most of it in providing free gasoline and food for the rural population. That is where he failed.
Your own description of the events seems to prove that he did a truly terrible job, instead of "doing his part pretty well."

Somewhere in there is the socialist principle that the nature of man can be changed, and that he can work for the common good.  Maybe, do you think, he believed this, and had to find out the hard way?  That people only strive to better their own selfish interests?

Personally I view that as a reality to use, and therein to better society and civilization, instead of something to suppress or criticize.
7091  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The real reason white supremacists like saddampbuh are so anti-semitic on: September 20, 2016, 03:00:15 AM
....

The obvious solution to this issue is a non-interventionist foreign policy that withdraws all aid to foreign nations or organizations.  ...

We could start by withdrawing the aid from the countries that hate us.

Like Iran.

Egypt....

That is if your government will. They're like invading everyone, and they can't invade CHINA when they are destroying the world already with the pollution they are producing. its fogging the entire Singapore and the rest of the Asian countries.  

And not invade Philippines because we are in the brink of purging drug criminals harming the innocent people.
Actually, no we are not.  Asia itself is strictly the cause of the "Asian brown cloud."
7092  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 20, 2016, 02:55:51 AM
Not these people!  Funny GIF:

https://secure.actblue.com/x/object/actblue-cyanotypes/replaced_images/list/155882/b29362f9be8649fa-trump_flint.gif


“Mr. Trump, I invited you here to thank us for what we’ve done in Flint. Not to give a political speech.”

"That's how Flint Pastor Faith Green Timmons shut down Trump yesterday as he began to illegally turn what was supposed to be a thank you speech at her church into a typical, partisan campaign spew.

REVEREND Green Timmons, a Black woman, confronted Trump immediately--and Trump, looking like a child that just got chastised, quickly reverted back to his thank you speech."


from a commenter...

How dare he

..a politician saying political things in a negro church.

Hillary would never do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjCvs0op1g

 

A good thing that negress interrupted him.

 

How do you spell ambush?
7093  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin Illegal in China Communist party imposes the Death Penalty on: September 19, 2016, 03:35:41 PM
If someone stole enough money in China and annoyed the wrong people, they probably could still execute you with the currency - bitcoin - playing a small part of the sentence. The authorities are usually one step behind with unforeseen trends but I don't think it would ever become a capital offence unless it was heavily undermining the Yuan. I wouldn't put it past Russia right now..

Execution is rare, typically for someone who causes the nation to "lose face."  An example a couple of years ago was a manufacturer making baby formula / milk that turned out to be poisoned.
7094  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Days back Pakistan Model killed by her own brother. on: September 19, 2016, 01:24:07 PM
Honor killings? I wish I'd read about a muslim father killing his son because he became an IS terrorist. This would be an honor killing I could somewhat understand a little bit.

Beat me to saying it.

+1

Indeed that would be an honor killing.

7095  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 19, 2016, 10:31:04 AM
When I saw one of his speeches, I tend to see and feel a honest and sincere man that willing to help his country.  Yes, he is kinda straight forward and very tactless sometimes but you see a guy who is really tired of all the hypocrisy of his country.  I am routing for this guy but sadly I am not a voter of US but I wanted him to win.  People are fed up of super good president with all its promises but never become reality.

A lot of people do seem to feel that way.

By the way, here is how to find IP addresses.

http://www.wikihow.com/Find-a-Website%27s-IP-Address
7096  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 18, 2016, 09:51:21 PM

duckduckgo is not exactly Google-worthy, LOL

Obama / Romney got so ugly, I didn't think another election could ever get worse.

Trump & Clinton have taken this game to Warp Speed nastiness, with the "media" working hard to make it even uglier, as @Spendulus points out.

I don't think one is getting more tin foil hat coverage than the other. 

There is plenty of weirdness to go around.

Well,let us check.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=trump+contribution

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hillary+contribution

Appears that the results are definitely skewed toward a positive link sent on Hillary, and toward a negative link set on Trump.  But not as obviously prejudiced as the duck-duck-go.

You and I are basically in agreement, though.

P2P search engines have still a lot of progress to make...

Yeah I agree Masha p2p has far to go.  And now with the new legislation set to be passed during the election the ICANN registry databases will be forever under the control of different nation states...leading to the great firewall of China being implemented around the world.  Hillary said she will destroy her critics like Alex Jones and Breitbart.  Problem is she cannot do that without first having great change in the internet.  So once this legislation gets passed then she will be able to destroy them via ICANN registry redirects.  Good luck people of the world you will need it.

To be effective this censorship has to be implemented in the search engines, and my examples above indicate that it is currently being done.

Control of ICANN does not matter because people can still type in the physical Internet address and/or have a downloaded list of ICANN name to Internet address.  And a search engine can provide such relations on a query.  So again, the search engine rules.

Yes busting the search engines for their bias is a huge topic that needs attention. 

As for the typing in of ip numbers directly you are correct that will work...the problem is that it lowers security for the website host and most people do not know the ip address for their websites they need if they have not yet found the website.  So the search engine thing goes hand in hand with the ip registry games.  Unless you are the rare one who knows ever website you will use for the rest of your life.  Plus many web site owners do not have static ip so they do not even have a number to give their viewers that will not change.


The IP must be entered in when registering a website with ICANN.

Many websites have large numbers of IP addresses, such as Amazon.

What is happening right now is subtle doses of bias.  Nothing so overt that it gets noticed and creates outrage.



7097  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: September 18, 2016, 12:08:22 PM

duckduckgo is not exactly Google-worthy, LOL

Obama / Romney got so ugly, I didn't think another election could ever get worse.

Trump & Clinton have taken this game to Warp Speed nastiness, with the "media" working hard to make it even uglier, as @Spendulus points out.

I don't think one is getting more tin foil hat coverage than the other. 

There is plenty of weirdness to go around.

Well,let us check.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=trump+contribution

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hillary+contribution

Appears that the results are definitely skewed toward a positive link sent on Hillary, and toward a negative link set on Trump.  But not as obviously prejudiced as the duck-duck-go.

You and I are basically in agreement, though.

P2P search engines have still a lot of progress to make...

Yeah I agree Masha p2p has far to go.  And now with the new legislation set to be passed during the election the ICANN registry databases will be forever under the control of different nation states...leading to the great firewall of China being implemented around the world.  Hillary said she will destroy her critics like Alex Jones and Breitbart.  Problem is she cannot do that without first having great change in the internet.  So once this legislation gets passed then she will be able to destroy them via ICANN registry redirects.  Good luck people of the world you will need it.

To be effective this censorship has to be implemented in the search engines, and my examples above indicate that it is currently being done.

Control of ICANN does not matter because people can still type in the physical Internet address and/or have a downloaded list of ICANN name to Internet address.  And a search engine can provide such relations on a query.  So again, the search engine rules.
7098  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The real reason white supremacists like saddampbuh are so anti-semitic on: September 18, 2016, 12:03:56 PM
....

The obvious solution to this issue is a non-interventionist foreign policy that withdraws all aid to foreign nations or organizations.  ...

We could start by withdrawing the aid from the countries that hate us.

Like Iran.

Egypt....
7099  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hillary, how many facelift? on: September 18, 2016, 12:01:44 PM
no matter how she is old, it is the fact that hillary is the best canditate for presidency .. she is so talented for politics . yes, she has some face jobs but it doesnt matter in politics.

Talented in politics?  Surely that would mean being at least a "good liar."

Hello, Bengazi.

My question has to be whether your assertion is within any real world possible, or is straight up delusional.

I think Hillary has had a lot as you can still clearly see it in her face as she aged. However, I also think that it's fine though as long as she can carry it along with a smile and by showing courage which displays women empowerment.

No, Hillary does not stand for "women empowerment."  Quite the opposite.
7100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: September 18, 2016, 11:59:55 AM
....

So in simple maths terms....

Earth's creation + unknown period + 6000 (or 6200 years) = Unknown

The difference between a scientific explanation and your explanation is that the scientific one recognizes and allows for a margin of error, as you yourself have pointed out, while you are unable to accept that your own also has a margin of error, although your margin is an unknown quantity rather than a margin born out of reproducible physical testing.

I know that the above will mean nothing to you and that you will attempt to teach me the error of my ways by making self referencing or circular arguments as to the legitimacy of the Bible, so knock yourself out - figuratively speaking of course.  Wink

And for the record, I agree with Spendulus's post above and like Tyrantt I also believe that time does not exist other than as a construct of man, so when I say years above I'm referring to the passage of the Earth around the Sun.

A reasonable hypocrite of a Christian would agree with you, of course.

Personally I think the understanding of stellar evolution is well established.  Stars burn until they are rich in heavier elements, and when iron predominates, fusion starts to end and they implode and supernova.  A couple cycles of that is what results in planets with "elements" and that's why the universe is 13+ billion years, while the Earth and it's moon are about 4 billion.

As for time, there would clearly be a a lower limit based on quantum theory, a smallest possible and fixed unit of time.   

Anyone who wants to argue these issues should reject their computers and their cell phones, because those could not exist without man's understanding of these issues. 

But they want it both ways. They want to be free to babble mindless puke from past ages, while using the benefits of quantum theory to do so.  Such as posting on this forum.

Fuck 'em.

Couldn't agree with you more on all points with the only exception being your comment regarding time.

The difference between me and BADecker though, is I'm open to discussion about other possibilities and if offered up enough reproducible evidence will change my stance and admit when I'm wrong.  Wink
I think that if light is well demonstrated to travel at a certain speed, then we have measurable amounts of time.  Similarly if there are minimum size movements of objects possible eg.  Plank's constant, then there should be a minimum unit of time, eg time is quantized.

But I could be wrong about that.
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