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721  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is MtGox Bankrupt? Not giving access to funds ... says other customers affected on: July 10, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
When I log into Gox i see a red message just above the buy/sell tabs, "Sending a WIRE TRANSFER to your account? The SWIFT code for depositing to Mt. Gox has been changed by our bank. Please find the new information under the "Funding Options" tab. Transferring using the old code could cause your deposit to bounce-back, possibly incurring fees at your local bank. "
722  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin so popular in Oregon? on: July 10, 2013, 05:36:06 PM
This thread is hilarious! Oregon "rebels" glowing over the "freedom" to NOT be allowed to pump gas. Amazing...
723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in MMOs (or other video games) on: July 10, 2013, 03:10:24 PM
IMO bitcoin is not the best choice as it's (not now, but usually) too expensive, slow, and micro transactions are less and less welcomed.

Everything in your last sentence is the opposite of truth however I would assume you know that and simply have an agenda.
724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone is spamming the blockchain on: July 10, 2013, 02:56:49 PM
Perhaps someone plans to offer a BTC investment vehicle to potential non-technical investors and wants to provide them other "good data" beyond just exchange pricing. That entity could simply point to the sheer number of bitcoins transferred through the network as an "indicator" of its increased usage, knowing the average person wouldn't investigate the blockchain itself for something like this.
725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 20, 2013, 05:46:01 PM
Maybe it's just me but it seems a little strange that the US government are fining foreign banks huge amounts of money for doing business in different parts of the world.

Surely you read at least 2 story paragraphs...?
"...(DFS) said Mitsubishi-UFJ moved billions of dollars through its New York branch between 2002 and 2007..."
726  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox wires ARE delayed on: June 20, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
I wonder if the looming possibility of a Japanese bank bail-in is causing this.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/japan-adopt-bail-ins-force-181947896.html

Maybe Gox is working to secure other bank accounts, though one would have hoped Gox would already have had backup accounts in place.

Or maybe the bank turned its API off to keep USD from fleeing on news of the bail-in. They simply told Gox it was "broken."
727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Nexus phone death and buying stuff F2F on: June 08, 2013, 04:09:30 AM
I was looking into getting a Nexus 4 to run Bitcoin Wallet. I found that there seems to be an issue with the phone where even new phones can simply die outright, which was disappointing as I was hoping to try a phone experience other than iPhone solely for bitcoin-related reasons.
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/eREo__Lhuwg[1-25-false]

It made me wonder about anyone who might have transferred some bitcoins to his phone only to have it die and need to be reformatted/returned, yadda. The point here isn't to slam Nexus -- there are other phones and any of them could die.

I suppose I'm wondering about other people's experiences with buying stuff offline with bitcoins face to face. I assume even on iPhone I could get to an online wallet via Safari but I'm wondering how cumbersome it'll be to have to deal with passwords in that scenario.
728  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ruh Roh, bitcoin on the radar of the IMF? on: June 05, 2013, 07:43:42 PM
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/06/05/imf-to-admit-big-fat-greek-bailout-blunders-wsj/
729  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bank of America vs. Mt. Gox on: June 04, 2013, 07:59:57 PM
Citibank has worked with Gox for me.
730  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why are people so eager to pay tax? on: June 04, 2013, 05:34:18 PM
People are eager to pay tax so the IRS can have lavish parties using "excess funds":
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/04/breaking-report-shows-lavish-spending-at-irs-conference/?hpt=hp_t2

Who doesn't like a good $4.1M party?
731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Bitcoin video I've seen on: June 03, 2013, 10:09:48 PM
Always be sure to check the other side of the "bitcoin" when researching topics. The video is interesting but has been debunked several times, even on this site.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16877.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_as_Debt
732  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Tax Havens on: June 02, 2013, 09:21:07 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/28/business/Double-Irish-With-A-Dutch-Sandwich.html?_r=0
733  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does anyone else hate Dwolla? on: June 02, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
I have appreciated the few transactions for which I have used Dwolla. I didn't feel the service was slower than any other bank. Indeed my last transactions went much faster than I thought they would.

Days before the Gox freeze, to my amazement, I transferred a small of funds from Gox to Dwolla in under 3 hours. And right afterward I transferred it back to Gox in about 1 day. My few CampBX transactions through Dwolla have been fine.

I find Dwolla's site design pleasing and usable. I have yet to see a professional looking Bitcoin web site though Coinbase is pretty close. EDIT: I neglected to include Gox as well!
734  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 05:15:27 PM
To say 'there is no God' is as bad as saying 'believe in my religion and follow my [insert your God here]'.

Only if one doesn't care about the facts of mankind's shared reality.

What "facts of mankind's shared reality"?  Religion? It's always been a part of civilized man -- that shared reality?  
What does "shared reality" have to say about god, pro or con?  Is the reality of god calculated by a democratic process?  If more men believed in god, would he be more real?
And why is this "reality," indisputably different for Ecstatics, accountants & Algerian criminals, somehow "common," and more -- "fact[ual]"?
Using words like "fact" is a bit wonky, unless you're absolutely sure nobody could disagree, and that's a nat'ral fact. Smiley


All of this has been covered in the thread. Re-read it.
Religion certainly has not been shared commonly by civilized people, it has been shared uncommonly. Wiki the branches and denominations of people all over the world who simply want to say, "treat others as you wish to be treated," and then promptly ruin it with thousands of versions of "one true" preposterous dogma featuring a multitude of gods with oddly human qualities.

"Fact" is wonky, but this was covered earlier as well.
735  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
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... Saying "I don't know, and don't care" is only a tiny step away from "I don't know, guess god did it."

That's ludicrous as well.

I can't bear the irony...


Saying that God did something isn't an automatic copout

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com


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... What other of god's biblical laws are not actual moral laws, but just palatable suggestions?
I've long held that those laws and customs were for a time, and they accomplished what they were there to do in history. Romans 8 describes best how moral law fits with Christianity,

It's nice you agree morals aren't absolute. Now if we can get you on a regimen of Promethazine we might make some progress on your remaining delusions.
736  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
Back up there.. Where's the verse that says he lived?
EDIT: We believe in a God powerful enough to raise people from the dead, even raise them up immortal. Living in a fish is nothing.

So you want us to choose which is more preposterous: Jonah lived in a fish for 3 days, or Jonah was dead in a fish for 3 days and then raised from the dead?

The bible is like a zombie apocalypse. Who knew 2000 years ago it was so easy to cure death? Left and right liches are popping up all over.
737  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 02:53:08 PM
To say 'there is no God' is as bad as saying 'believe in my religion and follow my [insert your God here]'.

Only if one doesn't care about the facts of mankind's shared reality.


The only way to be is agnostic - 'I don't know and don't rightly care'...

where "god" is defined as some non-specific creator...
theist: believes in god(s)
atheist: believes in no god(s)
gnostic: claims knowledge concerning the existence of god(s)
agnostic: claims no knowledge concerning the existence of god(s)

You are simply an apathetic agnostic atheist.

738  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
You're not even listening to what I'm posting, I'm not saying he was a "bad" Christian, I'm saying he did not even believe in Christianity at all.

Evidence shows he was Christian whether you think he was "true" or not. He was a member of the Catholic church until his death, and neither of us will ever know if asked for forgiveness before death, which is all that's required to get right back into heaven's queue.

I agree there's plenty of cause for debate over his personal views on religion and I understand why religious folks would shun such a member of their camp. Perhaps you simply shouldn't have brought him up in the first place?
739  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 02:16:21 PM
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There is a difference because murder is a relative moral. I am still awaiting your absolute moral.
The difference is between the separation of the words kill and murder.

Sorry, we covered that. Your equivocation on "causing death" doesn't help you. It is translated as both and is the same commandment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_not_kill


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You don't provide any evidence or argument but simply state a position.
Which is pretty much what you were doing, or perhaps I don't see your actual argument.

"Pretty much" what the difference is, is that I am providing evidence for my arguments. You are simply reiterated unsubstantiated opinions. The bible is proof of nothing.


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They are more commonly known as "laws" but yes, bad law is created every day and governments (and their citizens) allow it to happen for all kinds of reasons. Fortunately other clan/government groups decided other "morals," other law, should prevail.
So the strongest group decides?

Sometimes.


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I didn't think you'd give up this easily.
I didn't.

Simply typing a few words after my comments is not support of your argument.


The choice of papyrus as writing material was logical, and quite insignificant.

The choice of papyrus was insignificant? OK, I think we're done here. You're either being disingenuous or have no concept of how the bible came to exist in its current form. If you aren't aware, google "bible papyrus scraps" or some such and learn that the bible is really just ancient Mad Libs with scraps of faded paper. The debate over translations and missing parts have done nothing but splinter the overall faith. If 42,000 denominations arguing over who is "right" isn't significant problems then you would have no concept of what is significant.


It does condone a specific form of slavery, namely the payment of debts. The idea was if you could not conceivably pay a debt you owed someone you would work in order to cover part of it.

Religion at its finest: "the bible doesn't condone slavery, it simply condones slavery"
I don't need any argument here because you are arguing for my point. Thank you!
740  Other / Off-topic / Re: Religious beliefs on bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 03:21:50 AM
This will sound weird to you but after praying about it, we felt like God wanted us to invest in Bitcoin.  Still not sure why.  

Doesn't sound weird, it sounds typical. Your god has commanded you against your actions and you want to convince yourself otherwise, so you "pray on it" and surprise surprise, the ruler of the universe gives you an exemption.


We have not really made much yet

I wouldn't think of it this way yet. Even those who were in even earlier still needed a few years to make any money, if that was their goal. If you believe Bitcoin has a chance then owning just a few should return a sizable gain once it explodes.

I divided my tiny stash by 3. One third I just hold, never move. One third I buy and sell during daily/hourly swings. Another third I buy/sell all at once when I think major moves will happen. So far, I'm "ahead" but only as unrealized gains. I pulled out my original investment a while ago so if I lose it all then I never really lost anything at all but my time and "potential gains".


I still do not understand why you think God does not want us to be wealthy? 

I think it is plainly spelled out in the bible passages I have already posted, among others. The central thrust is to give everything you have away and "give no thought to the morrow" while following Jesus' teachings. Here's more bible teachings greed is causing you to ignore:

Mathew 6
19“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.20“But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal;21for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
22“The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light.23“But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!
24“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.


If a women was no longer a virgin, she was not allowed to marry (She was considered used property) so perhaps it was God intervening to cause her to at least have a family? Perhaps a merciful action based on the cruel society that they were living in at the time?  I am just speculating here.

There is no excuse for forcing a woman to marry her rapist. None. Why would you think it was OK back then unless morals are relative, not absolutely handed down from your god? Or was it that your god was just wrong?
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