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721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 28, 2023, 11:47:04 AM
Inter were lucky that they were able to equalized so quickly, I think that if Juventus were able to hold onto the winning score longer it might have forced Inter to make more mistakes in wanting to score, but Inter quickly equalized and looked more active in wanting to win. A draw was a more acceptable result for Inter than for Juventus, as they were able to maintain their advantage in the away match.

Inter Milan has a very thankful, having a chance to equalized in the first half. If Juventus were to win the match on their first half, then, in my opinion, all Juventus could do in the second half would be to play defensively, as their main focus would be on winning the league title rather than any other European league. Meanwhile, Inter Milan's goal was to win both the league and the Champions League. However, Lautaro Martinez's goal on their 33rd minute of played which makes the match started again, i was expecting the match to end up draw so they can share the points, in order for any club to maintain their present standings, which happened. The draw is more better.
And this is the second time this year that Juventus can only hold Inter Milan to a draw when hosting. The last meeting between Inter vs Juventus at the Allianz Stadium before yesterday's match was in April in the Coppa Italia Semi-Finals. And even then the match only ended with the same score, namely 1-1. And at that time it was quite a controversial match because there was a bit of a commotion at the end of the match between Lukaku (inter) and Cuadrado (Juventus). So the result of yesterday's match which ended in a draw was also an unsurprising result. And the majority of us also seem to feel that the draw is quite fair for both teams. At least there was no change in the standings after the draw in this match.
I will say that the match was a fair play and I would not blame any of the two clubs because the played their best and none of them was superior over the other. I have to say that Inter tried in eqializing the goal and that was what made then more stronger as they wouldn't want Juventus to win them. Inter is playing in UCL and they were still able to remain focus, this shows that they are strong for not been distracted from their domestic league.

On the other hand, Juventus tried their best to see how they can snatch three points from Inter but it was impossible because they don't have that force to win the match, despite that they are only focused on their domestic league. The two clubs are rival to each other and they both deserve to share the points, so that in their next match they can show their superiority to the club that they will be playing.
722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not this guy on: November 28, 2023, 10:26:36 AM
I have a friend that is like that, no matter how you try to convince him that his addiction might ruin his life, he will not listen to you because he is so carried away by his greed, because he believes that he will hit it big through gambling. The truth is that such gamblers don't care about what advice you give to them because they are always after chasing their loss.

Such gamblers will never stop gambling until they have ruined everything around them and learn a hard lesson, that is when they can consider quitting but for now to believe that they are doing the right thing even though they see that it is not favoring them. One funny thing is that these gamblers might have won big and that is why they keep on gambling, even after bug losses. See gambling as fun and not a means to make profit.
723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 27, 2023, 10:30:10 PM

If you noticed the way Arsenal are playing this season, you'd know that is quite different from the way they played last season, this time around they play to get the point which is very important and not to play a very interesting style of football and lose the game.
I still have that feeling that Arteta is trying something different to see if it will get them to win the league but is not going to be easy like it was last season even if they don't win the league.
For Havartz to get a goal in that encounter is not only going to motivate him but to put a fighting spirit in the team because they have already played out a draw in that game which won't be a good news for Arteta, so is a great win for the Gunners.
Arsenal will keeping for a better spot on EPL table this season because they messed up big time their golden opportunities of claiming the league title last season and they will leave to regret their relenting actions, the only way they can make amends is lifting the trophy this season with this outstanding squad. Mikel Arteta attempts to maintains this balance records in streak winnings.The Arsenal we have watch their games is quite different from the Arsenal last season. Alot of things have improved for Gunners and they're heading to EPL glory this season.
No doubt on this that Arsenal are now topping the table and all Arsenal fans are excited and feel that they will be able to maintain the first position till the end of the season. But we should not judge with only yesterday match that made them to be able to top the league where as Man City has been sitting on the first position for quite some time now.

My problem with Arsenal is that if there is a little injury, they might decline in performance and when I can say that Arsenal might win the league will be close to the end of the season not at this present time because we don't know what they will be passing through or some challenges that Arsenal will face by next year and if they will be able to overcome it. I just hope that they stay focus and Arteta should also make proper plans in future so that they don't mess things up again this season just like how they did last season. One point ahead to me is no big point. Any draw and City wins will bring them down.
724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin History Book 2008-2024 PROGRESS REPORT on: November 27, 2023, 04:00:31 PM
OP, I appreciate your endless effort and zeal to write this book as I have read in your other thread when you started writing the book, and I am pleased that you are making progress on this project, because it shows how much you love bitcoin and you have also dedicate your time to teach people about bitcoin through your book.

I hope to see you complete the book on the right time that you said, and I hope that you will get more donations from forum members. I admire your passion on this.



725  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ? on: November 27, 2023, 02:26:56 PM
This forum is like you are in a school to study, where you are to start from the least class to learn the basics and also to read on your own for proper understanding so that you can improve yourself. It is impossible for you to start rushing in school, for instance because you want to become a nurse, and you know that after you have graduated, there is job sown awaiting you and you decided to only attend the first semester without proper seriousness and you don't care about attending the second semester and you want to jump to year three. It will be impossible.

This is impossible because learning and promotion is a gradual process or else you will have nothing to show that you went to school. The forum is a place for one to grow gradually and your growth is based on what you have learnt, because when you don't dedicate some of your time to learn, you will not grow. Newbies should put making money first in their mind because this will be a big distraction to them and they wouldn't want to stay focus to learn but rather they will be looking for every means to get merits without improving themselves so that the merits can start flowing in.
726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Many Bets to Know How Good Enough You Are? on: November 26, 2023, 09:29:45 PM
Even with 1- 5 bets you can still measure yourself in percentage to see how many grade or percentage you have based on how many games you have won. But what really matters is your profitability and not how many bets you have entered for.
1 to 5 bets to be used to know how good someone is? That is not possible. Haven't you gambled before and win 5 consecutive times and then followed by losses?  I have gambled for a whole day before and I won all the matches I gambled with football live matches that day and it was a good day for me. I gambled with more than 20 matches that I won all that day. But losses follower the next day.
Wow that day must be a very lucky day for you since all the 20 matches outcome was as you predicted. Since gambling is a game of luck, I think that you don't need to hit between 50-60% before you can say that you are good because I have seen a gambler that won big on just a single game that he played on that day. He just started his first bet and he won big.

He should have just walk away with his wins but instead, he thought that he was good and clever to win bug on his first game and he continued gambling, before he knew it he started securing losses which he almost used one quarter of his win on gambling before he realized that he was just lucky and needs to walk away with the rest amount on him. I don't need to prove that I am good by playing more games but the moment my gambling budget is gone, I quit.
727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 26, 2023, 04:30:20 PM
If you want to diversify your investment when you have already invested in Bîtcoin, buying altcoin is not a good step in diversification because if there is a failure in Bitcoin there will also be a failure in altcoin. You can diversify your investment in something different from cryptocurrency such as real estate investment or selling a variety of merchandise, so that if one market fails, success in others will reduce the impact of failure.
What is the need of diversification when we already have our investment on Bitcoin because most successful investors prefer to have only one source which is Bitcoin because there believe in Bitcoin can never be compared to any other investment so they decided to stick to only Bitcoin which is a very wise decision.
I don't know why this issue of diversification is still coming up here when the thread is about buying Bitcoin to hodl. I think this discussion of diversification has repeated several times and is looking more like distraction. When we continue to compare different investment options in a thread the focus is supposed to be how to buy Bitcoin, many people might derail into making wrong investment decision in a bid to diversify his assets.

The forum is really big, so much that we can open a thread to discuss other investment instruments for the sake of those who might consider complimentary investment as a way of diversifying their Bitcoin portfolio.  


Diversification is only discussed because you can't hold any one coin. Some altcoins have much more potential than bitcoin. Right now, only bitcoin and a few altcoins are up. But when the bulls really come back to the market, the other coins will also show good growth.
I disagree with you mate, I haven't seen any altcoin that has potential than bitcoin, when it is a duplicate of bitcoin and they depend on bitcoin price movement for them to pump and dump. Some altcoins will even dump and will never pump again. Don't underestimate what bitcoin can do in the nearest future, and don't waste your time and resources on those fucking shitcoins that are worthless and can make one run at big loss when you invest in them. If is it not bitcoin, it can never be bitcoin.

This is a high tendency that in the next ten years bitcoin price might increase and become more valuable but not for altcoins because they are not reliable. Newbies should say No to altcoins if they want to have an investment because altcoins are not investment because most of them have short life span.

Can you tell us one altcoin that have much note potential than bitcoin @ fzto ?
728  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Stacking Satoshi Privilege on: November 26, 2023, 10:35:31 AM
If you understand the potential of bitcoin and have the zeal to invest, and passion to accumulate, if you don't have a work, you will go and get one, and if your income is slim, you will look for a second means of income so that you can have extra that you can use to invest in bitcoin.

The fact is that there is nothing that we cannot achieve if we have the passion to do it because we will look for variouss ways to make sure that we achieve our goal, but this statement is not for the lazy ones, because some people just want to sit down and be making money which is impossible as a poor man. Bitcoin investment is for people that can take risk, and discipline themselves so that they can buy bitcoin, you can also trim down your expenses if you see bitcoin that it is worth to buy and hodli.

Investing in bitcoin is not a privilege but an opportunity, the way you go at length to grab other opportunities around you is how to should also do to buy bitcoin. Moreover. you are not buying one bitcoin but satoshi. It is people that buys one bitcoin at once that are privilege.
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731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 25, 2023, 05:57:46 PM
Atlanta 0-1 Napoli

What a goal from K. Kvaratskhelia  as he scored with a header to put his team on the lead on the 44th minutes of the first half. Napoli played brilliantly and they are pressuring Atlanta in the match. Napoli could have scored the second goal but Atlanta defense was strong enough to prevent the goal. Napoli can do better than what they did in the second half because after the goal, they became a threat to Atlanta.

Atlanta is also trying their best to equalise the goal but all effort was in vain as they were unable to use the chances that they had. It will be an interesting second half because I believe that more goals will be scored by Napoli. Politano added a great impact in the match. Initially Napoli scored, but the goal was ruled out because it was an offside.
732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 25, 2023, 02:16:42 PM
The match has been going on for 80 minutes and Manchester City is still ahead with a goal scored by Erling Haaland. I think Manchester City will achieve this victory but we will see until the match ends whether Liverpool can score a goal and equalize the score but it seems quite difficult because Manchester City They are really guarding their goal so they don't concede a goal from the visiting team, but I'm a little worried because Manchester City haven't scored any additional goals so Liverpool are still trying to catch up on that lead.

If Manchester City can win this match Manchester City will continue to be at the top of the standings and Liverpool will not succeed in taking over first place.
Liverpool has final broken the deadlock on the 80th minutes after a long try, Alexander Arnold was the goal equaliser, as he scored with a brilliant finish by placing the ball on the last end of the right side of the post which Liverpool goalkeeper dived but couldn't stop the ball.

This is a good work from Liverpool team for them to be able to withstand Manchester city with all their ball possessions in the ongoing match. I know that Liverpool will be able to equalise the goal because they have been creating good opportunities to net their opponent post. The game had just begun because both clubs will be struggling to win the match.

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733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 25, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
Lots of good matches today... Man City vs Liverpool and Newcastle vs Chelsea are the most expected ones in my opinion... I think both teams will score here... It will probably be a good multi bet... Man City and Newcastle have Champions League games coming up, so it's not a given that they'll win...
Manchester City is in control of the first half and if they continue like that till the end of the match they will score 1-3 goals against Liverpool. Manchester City should be careful with Liverpool because Liverpool is looking dangerous with a counterattack.
What a beautiful finish from Halaad as he net the post stylishly on the 27th minutes. The error that led to the goal was from Liverpool goalkeeper as he wanted to play the ball inside the field but he slipped of and the ball went straight to Manchester city player who made good passes and final the ball was given to Halaad to open the score line.

Manchester city is one goal ahead of Liverpool but for on the look of things, it is possible that Liverpool might equalise the goal before half time because Nunez missed a good opportunity.

Manchester city 1-0 Liverpool
734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 24, 2023, 10:40:26 PM
There is a Girona - Athletic Bilbao game as well in a few days. What do you think? Can Girona maintain their current winning streak which has reached 5 games already?

Honestly I feel like Girona can win this game too. Before anything else I would like to remind of the games in the previous season as well. Because Girona beat them twice. And now Girona are even much better condition in the La Liga. I don't see any reason for not to think this way. But the final score might not be a big one. I expect a win by one goal in short.
Indeed, Girona should be able to win, considering that so far they are in a good trend. And yes when the both teams met last season, Girona was able to win. But maybe this match will be difficult for Girona, Bilbao is not a weak team either. Especially, we have a long break and Ernesto Valverde may have planned many things for that match against Girona. So in my opinion this match is still difficult to predict, and the chance of a draw result is still open. But to be honest, right now I hope that match will end in a draw results, because I want to see tighter competition before January in standings.
I have the confidence that Girona will win Bilbao because Girona is stronger than Bilbao currently, and if you at it from this season that Girona has been very consistent in their games. Girona need to win the match to make them still sit on top of the table, because if the lose the match, there is a high possibility that Real Madrid will win their match and it becomes an advantage for them to take over the first position from Girona.

However, Bilbao can also resist defeat from Girona if they can be able to play Girona in a pattern that they wouldn't gibe them the opportunity to score goals but will this be possible for them to achieve. I will place my bet on Girona.
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736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 24, 2023, 02:35:06 PM
Once you start making gains from the business, you could aggressively buy Bitcoin using some of the profits from the business and your income. This way, you may now be buying Bitcoin using your income ($200) and from your business gains ($50) weekly, helping you reach the level of Bitcoin portfolio you desire.

Sure, there are frequently complexities for business opportunities that maybe or may not be worth the injection of capital to get into such operations, and sometimes there can be good opportunties, so we cannot weigh those kinds of trade offs in a thread like this, and we cannot necessarily assume, either, that it would automatically be better to get into a business rather than buying BTC with the extra capital.. it is not easy to know without getting into particulars of the business.. .

And as Salahmu mentioned in the next post, people will sometimes get distracted by supposed "business opportunities" and want to spend their bitcoin investment, which can be very tempting, but not necessarily a good idea for someone to get so excited about supposed opportunities that s/he has merely because s/he has savings and an investment in bitcoin that is generally growing and so dipping into it is tempting, but not be as good of an idea as continuing to build the bitcoin investment with out getting distracted... and of course, everyone has to figure out how to balance these kinds of temptations, and whether the opportunity that is presented is as great as it appears from the initial stages... but might not be so great after several years of wasting time in it. when you could have had been building your bitcoin holdings in other ways.  There is no exactly better choice, even though there likely can be due diligence difficulties that might even be more difficult to assess than assessing the putting of value into bitcoin.
I agree with everything that you said @JJG, I don't know why some people haven't build up the initial their bitcoin investment portfolio to a good level, and they are talking about diversification to another investment. They don't know that it will be a big distraction for them to reach their bitcoin goal and also to continue with the bitcoin accumulation. This is because they will stop their bitcoin accumulation and start paying more attention on the new business that they want to start with. How are we even sure that such business will yield a better profit than their bitcoin investment, which I doubt. It is easy to manage on investment than two especially when the investment is still very young. Before you know it such people might even go to the extend of selling part of their bitcoin to put into the new business when it is faced with some challenges. It is a poor investment practice and should not be encourage because you might end up losing the opportunity to buy bitcoin more cheaper because you have lost focus on buying bitcoin for some period of time.

None diversification of businesses is like driving a car on along journey without having a spare tire with you for flat tire emergency along the long.
I disagree with you on this, because you are complicating yourself here, before venturing into your bitcoin accumulation journey, you should have make a proper plan so that you can use the money that will not affect your monthly up keep and you should also make preparation for emergency funds already on ground and also reserve funds so that no matter what happens along the line on your bitcoin journey, apart from death you will overcome the challenge because you are already prepared on a long term bitcoin accumulation goal. Diversifying is not necessary, and not all successful bitcoin long term hodlers diversify on their way to their bitcoin target. Stay focus and don't distract yourself. How will low income earners diversify but low income earners can achieve their bitcoin target with commitment, discipline and patience.




737  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Address Expired after 10 minutes,1 day,1 week on: November 24, 2023, 02:26:48 PM
It does not expire and you can use it over and over again, as the address belongs to that wallet. It is good that you shouldn't use the same address over and over again, but use different address to receive bitcoin payment for security reason. If you want to get paid by Mr A use a different address and if you want to receive pay from Mr B use a different address
738  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin network fees are not high is you who can't afford it. on: November 24, 2023, 09:55:27 AM
OP, you sound as if you are so rich and you use bitcoin everyday, but you should also know that the high fee was the congestion of the mempool by those garbage which led to the cause of alarm. Bitcoin has always been attacked in different forms and bitcoin will still survive. If this was how the fee was initially then I doubt that all us of here will be spreading the good news of bitcoin because so many people will be discouraged to adopt bitcoin. You are only making it look as if using bitcoin is expensive which it is not.

Yes the network congestion itself is just showing a glimpse of probably how the network will be when mining stops and when we have high adoption rate
Yea I agree with you but let's wait till then because by then bitcoin price might have exceeded 6 digits to maybe 7 digits and paying such fee then wouldn't be a problem, and not now that bitcoin price is still 37k+. It shows it is abnormal.
739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? on: November 23, 2023, 07:01:38 PM
And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

too naive to still support the person right?  and you couldn't really trust the guy is he said this time that the funds generated from this crowdfund would be used right to what is intended.  he gambled away the money that was originally meant for something. there is no assurance he will not gamble again the money to chase the loss.

anyway, it's all up to him already. if someone still trusts him. then maybe he really is worth trusting. not me. i'm struggling myself.
It is only due to sympathy that will make anyone to fund a gambler, maybe because he is a family member and they believe that he will no longer gamble with the money been given to him. Apart from that it might be very difficult to crowdfund a gambler.

Another reason that people might choose to crowdfund a gambler is if that gambler was generous with the funds during the time when he won big. Apart from the aforementioned, it will be difficult for people to crowdfund a gambler that they know is an irresponsible gambler because he will still use the money given to him to chase his losses.
740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC technology and the need for referral codes/links. on: November 23, 2023, 06:02:31 PM
Bitcoin is decentralized and don't need a referral code because it is only centralized platforms that do have referral code so that they can use it as a bait to get more customers because people will love to earn from it.

Bitcoin is solid and no one is in charge of controlling the whole system which makes it impossible and if I may ask who will be giving out the bonus and how. Mate buy your bitcoin through p2p and that's all. Exchanges and online financial institutions are the ones that does this because it is own by someone and they can collapse one day. Bitcoin has spoken for itself since the past 14 years because everyday the adoption increases and it is gaining more popularity.
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