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November 23, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
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And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

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November 23, 2023, 06:15:37 PM
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And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

too naive to still support the person right?  and you couldn't really trust the guy is he said this time that the funds generated from this crowdfund would be used right to what is intended.  he gambled away the money that was originally meant for something. there is no assurance he will not gamble again the money to chase the loss.

anyway, it's all up to him already. if someone still trusts him. then maybe he really is worth trusting. not me. i'm struggling myself.









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November 23, 2023, 07:01:38 PM
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And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

too naive to still support the person right?  and you couldn't really trust the guy is he said this time that the funds generated from this crowdfund would be used right to what is intended.  he gambled away the money that was originally meant for something. there is no assurance he will not gamble again the money to chase the loss.

anyway, it's all up to him already. if someone still trusts him. then maybe he really is worth trusting. not me. i'm struggling myself.
It is only due to sympathy that will make anyone to fund a gambler, maybe because he is a family member and they believe that he will no longer gamble with the money been given to him. Apart from that it might be very difficult to crowdfund a gambler.

Another reason that people might choose to crowdfund a gambler is if that gambler was generous with the funds during the time when he won big. Apart from the aforementioned, it will be difficult for people to crowdfund a gambler that they know is an irresponsible gambler because he will still use the money given to him to chase his losses.

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November 23, 2023, 07:37:48 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
Why would I? I think it's given that people would be wary to that fellow and would never participate to such an obvious answer. He/she should be responsible enough to know that the world doesn't work that way especially if you just gamble the money that should be used for good purpose, you'll surely get criticism at all.
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November 23, 2023, 07:57:17 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
Why would I? I think it's given that people would be wary to that fellow and would never participate to such an obvious answer. He/she should be responsible enough to know that the world doesn't work that way especially if you just gamble the money that should be used for good purpose, you'll surely get criticism at all.
Also, there's no assurance that you would really be able to assure to those people do make use of the amount on the right way but rather we could really be able to assume that it would really be used back into gambling again and again. So there's no sense on trying out to help an addicted person when it comes to finances or simply having the money because it would really be just worsen up the situation just because they would really be continuing on playing as long they do have the funds. So there's no point and pretty sure that 100% no one will really be that minding on helping someone when it comes to financial approach
specially into an addicted person.

Everything that it is really happening to us would really be that depending or basing on the things that we have done. If you are really that irresponsible when it comes to
gambling activity and been spending like a mad man then expect on what are the consequences.

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November 23, 2023, 08:04:24 PM
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If its my friend seeking for a help then why not? If this is the best way I can help him survive from that addiction and rise again then I will not hesitate to help as long as he is willing to help himself too. But if a gambler is just raising a funds to support his gambling addiction then totally not, its not good and I will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Gambling can be very risky and if you know someone is already suffering and seeking for a help, try to help him even on a smallest way because it can be a big help for him.
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November 23, 2023, 08:25:44 PM
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If its my friend seeking for a help then why not? If this is the best way I can help him survive from that addiction and rise again then I will not hesitate to help as long as he is willing to help himself too. But if a gambler is just raising a funds to support his gambling addiction then totally not, its not good and I will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Gambling can be very risky and if you know someone is already suffering and seeking for a help, try to help him even on a smallest way because it can be a big help for him.
Raising money for him might not be a good idea especially if the purpose is for your school activities and yet you choose to gamble that money instead of spending it the right way, I personally don’t want to tolerate it too and that’s why I’m not helping though I can give advises but with money, I’m out. This is a reminder not to spend your important money, and gamble only if you have the extra. Also, don’t ever use a money that is not even yours, gambling can’t guarantee you a profit so its not worth the risk.

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November 23, 2023, 08:34:27 PM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
I would never do that. Crowdfunding for him means that you tolerate his wrong doing and he will never learn if you don't let him suffer the consequences of his action and decision. That does not mean I don't care about him but that's my way of helping him to change for the better or better leave gambling if he can't really control his expenses and if it's hard for him to discipline himself in gambling.

Gambling will only be productive and profitable if you are a responsible and disciplined gambler. If you gamble the other way around, you will not only lose your money but you lose your essence as well why you are gambling. Gambling is designed to entertain us, not to wreck and damage our well-being.
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November 23, 2023, 09:21:38 PM
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Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing.
Why will I participate in the crowdfunding? When gambling, we should always learn to control ourselves. Why will you spend the money that's meant to be used for other necessary things on gambling, and you expect me to make a contribution for the person? What was the person thinking when gambling? How sure are you that the person won't end up spending the money contributed on gambling again, i see no reason for me raise money for people like that, I do see it as a waste of money. Let him suffer for his actions so that next time the person is going to learn.

And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
I won't say anything, everyone has a choice. Some people might be so nice to at least assist the gambler, but I see that as a waste of money. I will rather visit an orphanage house and donate the money than give it to someone who wasted all his money on gambling. If I have empathy, not for someone who gambled away money that was supposed to be used for something serious.

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November 23, 2023, 09:47:38 PM
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And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

Crowdfund is used to help people who are experiencing a financial loophole because of positive cause, like education, health struggling and helping people who suffer from natural disasters. Gambling is a recreational activity that involves risk and the potential for financial loss.

Crowdfunding a gambler is just something foolish. Gambling is not a typical project that is worth to support because it would essentially be asking people to donate money to a venture that has a high probability of failing, no matter how good he is at gambling. Crowdfund is essentially asking people for help someone or group, while gambling is an activity that makes people succeed when there is/are people failed. This is just ironic.

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Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

One question that I would love to ask in such a situation is: if he had actually won that bet that was staked with the money that was not his. If he had won, would he decide to share the money with the community or would he spend it wisely for himself? For me, I would not join anyone to contribute for them. The reason is because the person was so foolish and greedy to gamble with money that was not actually their own, and even if they wanted to gamble with that money, they should only use the amount they know they can freely replace without having to ask for crowd funding.

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November 23, 2023, 10:59:47 PM
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If its my friend seeking for a help then why not? If this is the best way I can help him survive from that addiction and rise again then I will not hesitate to help as long as he is willing to help himself too. But if a gambler is just raising a funds to support his gambling addiction then totally not, its not good and I will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Gambling can be very risky and if you know someone is already suffering and seeking for a help, try to help him even on a smallest way because it can be a big help for him.

Unfortunately, not everyone has a golden heart and is willing to help a recovering gambler. People is always leaning towards believing in all the stigmas which surround all gamblers, specially when comes to money management, potential drug usage and stuff like that.
It is hard to believe, but gambling addiction can easily break a friendship apart until not longer being interested in helping a recurring gambler.
Besides trying to get help from a friend, a recovering gambling should try to get professional help or get in contact with an organization dedicated to helping recovering gamblers to deal with the addiction.
Hopefully, anyone of us will ever be in a place where we need to take care of a friend in that way.

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November 23, 2023, 11:17:29 PM
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Unfortunately, not everyone has a golden heart and is willing to help a recovering gambler. People is always leaning towards believing in all the stigmas which surround all gamblers, specially when comes to money management, potential drug usage and stuff like that.
It is hard to believe, but gambling addiction can easily break a friendship apart until not longer being interested in helping a recurring gambler.
Besides trying to get help from a friend, a recovering gambling should try to get professional help or get in contact with an organization dedicated to helping recovering gamblers to deal with the addiction.
Hopefully, anyone of us will ever be in a place where we need to take care of a friend in that way.

Many people will not help you until you suffer from any medical condition.So he you expected such people will help you to manage the loss from the gambling,honestly no one will help you with money as the loan to play in the gambling sites.This was the reason many gamblers get away from the gambling when they suffer loss and they won't try to play again gambling using the loan.Many people won't loan to the people who consume drugs,like wise they won't also help the gamblers to get away from the recent loss with many games in the gambling sites.The gambler should save certain dollars for specific period and back to the gambling instead of asking loan to your friends or family member.
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November 23, 2023, 11:23:15 PM
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If its my friend seeking for a help then why not? If this is the best way I can help him survive from that addiction and rise again then I will not hesitate to help as long as he is willing to help himself too. But if a gambler is just raising a funds to support his gambling addiction then totally not, its not good and I will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Gambling can be very risky and if you know someone is already suffering and seeking for a help, try to help him even on a smallest way because it can be a big help for him.

Unfortunately, not everyone has a golden heart and is willing to help a recovering gambler. People is always leaning towards believing in all the stigmas which surround all gamblers, specially when comes to money management, potential drug usage and stuff like that.
It is hard to believe, but gambling addiction can easily break a friendship apart until not longer being interested in helping a recurring gambler.
Besides trying to get help from a friend, a recovering gambling should try to get professional help or get in contact with an organization dedicated to helping recovering gamblers to deal with the addiction.
Hopefully, anyone of us will ever be in a place where we need to take care of a friend in that way.

It there is someone that can really help, then it should be professional in this field. And maybe the next question is, where should the gambler get the money to seek help? And maybe why crowdfund could be the solution.

Unfortunately, it's not that everyone doesn't have a golden heart and is willing to help, is that in this kind of situation, it's the gambler that is seeking help. And with that kind of stigma, it's hard for someone or at least convince anyone to help him because of that kind of stigma so you can't blame anyone for having that kind of mindset and not helping the individual. Maybe there will be some, but I doubt that it will be enough.

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November 23, 2023, 11:29:03 PM
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If its my friend seeking for a help then why not? If this is the best way I can help him survive from that addiction and rise again then I will not hesitate to help as long as he is willing to help himself too. But if a gambler is just raising a funds to support his gambling addiction then totally not, its not good and I will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Gambling can be very risky and if you know someone is already suffering and seeking for a help, try to help him even on a smallest way because it can be a big help for him.

Unfortunately, not everyone has a golden heart and is willing to help a recovering gambler. People is always leaning towards believing in all the stigmas which surround all gamblers, specially when comes to money management, potential drug usage and stuff like that.
It is hard to believe, but gambling addiction can easily break a friendship apart until not longer being interested in helping a recurring gambler.
Besides trying to get help from a friend, a recovering gambling should try to get professional help or get in contact with an organization dedicated to helping recovering gamblers to deal with the addiction.
Hopefully, anyone of us will ever be in a place where we need to take care of a friend in that way.

It there is someone that can really help, then it should be professional in this field. And maybe the next question is, where should the gambler get the money to seek help? And maybe why crowdfund could be the solution.

Unfortunately, it's not that everyone doesn't have a golden heart and is willing to help, is that in this kind of situation, it's the gambler that is seeking help. And with that kind of stigma, it's hard for someone or at least convince anyone to help him because of that kind of stigma so you can't blame anyone for having that kind of mindset and not helping the individual. Maybe there will be some, but I doubt that it will be enough.

I would be perfectly willing to help to fund a gambler so they can seek for the professional help they need, though, I think that in order to do so some trusted third party would be required so the person suffering from.the gambling addiction cannot get direct access or management over the funds, instead the third person or party would be the one securing the money to be paid to a psychological clinic in behalf of the community who donated that money.
Though, keeping in mind one person's reputation is tightly linked to the community where they participate, then the crossfunding would be likely restringed to one community at the time, because of the limitations of the escrow/third party.

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November 24, 2023, 05:59:45 AM
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I get that folks wanna help out if someone's having a rough time, but you gotta be careful too.  Sure we should care about each other, but throwing money around ain't always the answer neither.  Maybe help with getting skills or something steady instead of just handing over cash. People should try to stand on their own.  So lend a hand when it's really needed but dont let feelings make you loose with your wallet.  That's just gonna cause more problems down the road.  I say care, but care smart.


I agree with you, we should help people whose lives seem very difficult or inadequate.
If there are people or relatives who when gambling experience financial difficulties because when gambling they do not have good, responsible and controlled behavior, then what I will do is just let it go, because that is a consequence for themselves because their carelessness in gambling is out of control. It's a good idea to save the winnings or invest them for our own living needs.
It's not certain that when we have financial difficulties there will be someone to help us in the future.

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November 24, 2023, 07:22:57 AM
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A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Giving money to a gambling addict is like buying cocaine for a drug addict. This doesn't help him at all and it might make his situation worse.
Do you really think that giving money to a gambler is a true act of empathy? I don't think so. True empathy would be trying to help a gambler to get rid of his gambling addiction.
I also wonder how many people would donate money to someone, who starts a Gofundme campaign and claims that he's a gambler with big debts and a growing addiction. Is it possible for such crowdfunding campaigns to be launched on Gofundme(or other crowdfunding platforms)? Probably not. I assume that such campaign would probably be banned from the platform.

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November 24, 2023, 08:58:31 AM
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It is only due to sympathy that will make anyone to fund a gambler, maybe because he is a family member and they believe that he will no longer gamble with the money been given to him. Apart from that it might be very difficult to crowdfund a gambler.
People who thought like that are wrong, it's kind of spoiling where people give him a fish instead of teach him how to catch a fish.

Funding an irresponsible gambler will make you lose money, so make sure to treat it like a donation. Also be prepare to see them ask more money since they know you're someone who can't reject a request or something like that.


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November 24, 2023, 10:16:37 AM
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There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

Are we still saying that crowdfunding is same thing as giving gift?

I think your classification here falls into giving of gift that people do in celebration of other people in there moment of happiness like birthday, marriage ceremony etc even in sad moments like being bereaved of which the rich is not above gift receiving. So there is nothing wrong to give to the rich even if they have in abundance. Gift opens more doors for receiving and blessing, like they say the gift of a man makes way for him.

So crowdfunding is not same with gift in the the light of what the topic is discussing. You are only supporting someone to come back from their irresponsible action that caused his loses.

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November 24, 2023, 10:53:04 AM
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And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

too naive to still support the person right?  and you couldn't really trust the guy is he said this time that the funds generated from this crowdfund would be used right to what is intended.  he gambled away the money that was originally meant for something. there is no assurance he will not gamble again the money to chase the loss.

anyway, it's all up to him already. if someone still trusts him. then maybe he really is worth trusting. not me. i'm struggling myself.
Why not if there is legal backing for this? That must also go with sureties to back it up. By this, I would be satisfying my conscience of helping someone, but my terms must first be fulfilled. If not, why waste my money? I will not make the mistake of being involved in such a wasteful affair. Irresponsibility is high with some people and there is no way you can trust your money with them without them squandering it. This is particularly true when they are also addicted and have even crossed the red line in their addiction, they would be looking for all means to gather money just to go back to their gambling. But some would use some parts to gamble and use the rest for what they intended to. However, this has to do with the level of the person's addiction, if it's so high, such might be using the money in parts to gamble bit by bit until they waste all of it.

If at all I want to help a person like this, I must be certain that he first gets help and is free of the addiction. It's after this that I can be partly sure of trusting my hard-earned money to him no matter what.

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