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7221  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: March 24, 2017, 05:48:12 AM
I think it is! The future is here and we need to adopt it and accept the future. If we don't we die. We must innovate and move into what is more convenient, safer, faster, economic and something that will totally help the environment by not using anymore trees. Though the mining part of bitcoin leaves a lot of carbon footprint but if everything was solar it wouldnt/
Bitcoin is very limited and it has only exist in online transaction, with that it cannot be the new era currency surpassing what fiat digital currency has achieve. To be able to be called as the new era it should possess the characteristics that would benefit everyone when using such currency and as for
the status of bitcoin nowadays, it's till unclear if it will continue to be dominant online as it is clearly manipulated and the hardest thing is the government would not allow it to be.
7222  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: March 24, 2017, 03:39:59 AM
why so many people store their bitcoin in their wallet for a long time, whether the benefits will they get?

Come share your thoughts

This is depend on the belief of the holder of bitcoin, there are some believer think that bitcoin will become 2000$ or more a years from now, including myself.  But and simultaneously, I also bought altcoin to make some trade in the exchange platform so that I can easily get profit in bitcoin.
Bitcoin will reach that high price but to be honest I don't think it is going to be as soon as I though as few weeks ago because the uncertainty about what it may happen to bitcoin and the rumors of a fork made great damage to the bitcoin price.
The rumors are not new to the community and yet bitcoin is still very successful now. If you believe on negative rumors you are losing the opportunity to invest, it was just done to lure the weak holders to dump their bitcoins so whales can buy it cheap. Been investing for years and this is the year w
where I can say it's very progressive for bitcoin.
7223  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: March 24, 2017, 03:22:14 AM
Every transaction moves the price but only the heavy hitters move it to any noticeable amount.

Exactly, big whales does and capable to make the price move like if they sale they hold coins for sure the value will gonna crashed down and so if they purchased and buy coins the value will rises again. We hope big whales continue to hold theirs and buy more.
if the user is increasing over time and bitcoin users have been very large then the great whales would be very difficult to make price changes even each of them to do something
That's our main goal to spread the number of holders so the movement will be base on the real demand of the people and not a manipulated one.
However, we cannot deny that right now the whales are still powerful and the can make a manipulation anytime, it does not need to explain
further because we can already tell how the price swings ups and down, it's them who are making it possible.
7224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 23, 2017, 01:07:08 PM
With only few week away with NBA playoff i found out on CBS some interesting image if playoff should started yesterday



Share you opinion on this scheduled
This should be an interesting match up, but the regular season is not over yet and there are still a lot of games to be played and the number 8 spot is where the thrill is. I am more interested in the West as I believe they are more exciting than in the East where Cleveland Cavaliers will just certainly dominate.

I'm thinking that the New Orleans Pelicans should also be considered, they've been playing great so far but if they cannot make it, denver would be my choice, it's boring if the Blazers will advance, we know what will happen already against the Warriors.
7225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 23, 2017, 12:36:42 PM
In every game, there have benefit or losses.You can be flourished or failed, whatever will happen, there have some side effect.If you win then obviously you will happy and satisfied not only for fun but also for your profit.And no one will happy after losses. you will be frustrated and also you want to recover your losses and you want to gain your money.So in my perception i want to win ,i will play again to reclaim my money.And everyone will do this.

Yeah though gambling is wrong if you look at the larger picture based on what you have strategized. Gambling winning shouldn't have to be that risky like how you're stating, whether you win today or lose tomorrow isn't how Gambling should be -just doing like that is really stressful.

Gambling shouldn't bring any stress, gray hairs are only cool if the person is an expert in kung-fu.

I would try to gamble with little risk and fun as possible.
Little risk will only happen if you bet a smaller amount and little risk would mean less fun, the thrill is actually on higher bets and that makes
people stay and gamble longer. I never win a big amount that satisfy me in gambling that's why I keep searching for a great moment where I can
win jackpot.

Also, I believe gambling is all about having fun and getting money you want to win but if you cannot have that never get frustrated like losing control.
7226  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: March 23, 2017, 07:48:55 AM
If we dare to take the risk certainly many ways that we can do to grow bitcoin. HYIP investment are things that we can do, a lot of people who tell stories of success by following HYIP. But if we are patient, then we can choose for cloud mining.
Yeah but a lot of users who invest in HYIP, cloudmining are lose a lot of bitcoin because more site which run for 2 long years will turn to scam site that is why HYIP, cloudmining is not good to invest anymore. The better things to do to grow your bitcoin is trading, invest in alt coin will make you more profit.
Don't trust you money with that kind of investment, it's better to have your own and manage your money effectively. Investing that offers rewards that is too good to be true should be avoided, it might not scam you now but it will in the long run. The only legitimate investment I saw is putting your money in a bitcoin gambling sites using diversification technique or simply hold your bitcoins for long term investment.
7227  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: March 23, 2017, 07:25:56 AM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
Agreed, I do believed that there is no traders became successful in trading that would say" Being a successful trader is very, very easy to achieved" that's not true before they achieved it its been so many times they faced fear of losing money until they overcome their fears and become successful now.

but sometimes we don't realize about this and sometimes we can not take this as our important lesson so we don't do it again in future. i am sure that many of us have been in this situation and we loss much of money for doing trading but if we can thinking that this was from our mistake and we want to fixed it, then i am sure that we don't make the same mistake.
I'm pretty about that because we are not perfect, we all start as beginners and as a beginner we tend to make mistakes. If we will stop then we will not gonna lose again but if we are strong we will be able to surpass the trials and keep learning while we go on with our journey.
The fear of losing is normal but you have to conquer that to be a certified trader, all you need is to control your emotion and focus on your technique.
7228  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 23, 2017, 07:05:25 AM
If we want to be safe, of course the advantage is slight, but if we dare to take the risk so high profit levels. traditional investments such as gold, deposits, mutual funds and so forth is the best investment for the long term, but short of profitable investment is hold bitcoin.

i am sure holding gold, deposits is still the best option for ordinary people in real life, but for us which involving in crypto currency industries,  i think its best to hold bitcoin as you said and beside bitcoin, i am sure that there is another secondary crypto currency that we can hold too like ethereum, dash, litecoin and else. we just have to make sure that our investment is working best for future and for long term.
Thought this altcoins are now getting the attention of the investors but I'm still doubtful of putting a big amount of money for long term investment.
For my long term I would only trust bitcoin on that, I am already successful without altcoins short term trades and I will not change that trend.
7229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: March 23, 2017, 05:04:58 AM
I guess the biggest problem posed cryptocurrencies just had a major impact on the government, because it does not create a government benefit, only the illegal transactions that should be stopped. but, for a businessman, I think most of the most cyptocurrencies provides a great advantage.

Crypto as it is right now, is too small to form somewhat of an impact on the governments. But that obviously will change in the coming years as this industry will grow larger and larger. I think that's exactly why they start putting up all kinds of regulations. It means that things are getting serious now. It's not 2011/2013 anymore where you could just buy Bitcoin, trade it, cash it out, etc, without any problems. Now even the smaller exchanges force people to verify themselves according to the various levels of verification they work with.
I agree, with the bitcoin value increasing over time and more people starting to invest in use it to make a ton of money there is no doubt that governments will start imposing some financial laws on people making money from bitcoin, in other words we will have to start paying taxes to governments for every bitcoin we own, other threats is that cryptocurrency are used without id or any personal verification which means it can be used not only for illegal things like buying drugs or hacking but also for frauds and bribes which imposes a serious problem for governments.
That will not happen too soon yet, the users of bitcoin is not that big to alarmed the government, they cannot tax us anymore as we have already paid the right taxes every time we spend our fiat. Bitcoin is just a payment system and it was recognized that way by the government for now so no worries.
7230  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: March 23, 2017, 02:41:40 AM
One thing i know is that ,if i am holding a good amount of coins and if at all the price of bitcoin crosses those said valuation then i would be having a hell lot of money ,will it be worthless ,hell no,because i like my bank account having a healthy balance too. Tongue
We all hope for the success in the future, imagine if the value of bitcoin will rise up to $10,000 and you were able to accumulate a great number of bitcoins in your wallet, you could make a fortune with bitcoin under that circumstances. We juts have to hold and believe that we will be more profitable in the future, panicking when crisis occurs is not a good action and it is just a distraction to our focus.
7231  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: March 23, 2017, 02:28:13 AM
Why is it bitcoin?
It has always been and will always be an alternative currency. Someone for anything in life will not use crypto currency, but will always use Fiat. And bitcoin for those who believe in him
That't correct, everyone can used bitcoin but they cannot accept if it will be replace by Dollar. Bitcoin is not the main currency of this world and it is not created by the government therefore it's hard to think that it will replace the biggest currency in the world.
7232  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: March 22, 2017, 01:36:48 PM
I think making a video and uploading it to youtube will provide a nice passive income you just need to make a good video topic and do a little editing earning from adsense its the best passife income
There are a lot of successful people who are doing that and they are earning millions of money which they are called as youtube millionaires.
It's a skilled based job and you need to have that in order to be successful, you know there are a lot of ways to earn and make money but you
need to know what are your skills in order for you to start what you need to do. Passion is needed at the same time for you to enjoy what you are doing.
7233  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: March 21, 2017, 12:51:58 PM
Already fiat is worthless .  No need to talk more about it ,
You don't know what your saying, Don't you know that for a several years fiat became useful in many countries in the entire world. And even bitcoin reach 1M$ Fiat will still be useful in different places of the country.  Smiley

Yes, really agree on that because not all people are using bitcoin as their method of payment. Some of them still using fiat to pay for something. Although bitcoin price is sky rocketting and hit $10,000 but if not all people use it, fiat will still be useful for sure

Since bitcoin's price is still indicated in fiat's price (Dollars in your example), that alone is a clear sign that fiat is totally still worth something although maybe the reason why bitcoin's price is already $10,000 is because the value of fiat has already decreased a lot. Either way, 10k USD per bitcoin says that bitcoin is already accepted by merchants and mass adoption is starting to happen. The price will increase even faster because growth is exponential specially on something that's built by human's population and trust like bitcoins.
I would definitely agree with you on that, bitcoin is very dependent on fiat and without the support of fiat it will be worthless. We have been using fiat but there are people who sees we can get more benefits if the money we are using is not subject to inflation and will be decentralized.

Bitcoin then was created but the main purpose was just to aid fiat to give a fast transaction, but people are thinking differently, they want to replace fiat with bitcoin which is impossible to happen.
7234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: March 21, 2017, 12:45:08 PM
Finding hobbies, work and other activities to occupy yourself is essential in dealing with gambling addiction, in my opinion it's completely wrong to say that it's not working. People who have enough willpower to break addiction with a single resolution are such a minority and probably don't get addicted in the first place. But average people who struggle with addiction need all the help they can get, so any advice that can make it easier to deal with addiction is extremely valuable for them, but you just denied it and tell people to "deal with it".
Gambling addiction can happen to everyone, your gambling goes from fun and develop to unhealthy preoccupations with serious consequence, whether it is sport betting dice or poker or any other type of gambling.

If you have some serious gambling, remind yourself of how It can destroy your relationships interfere with your work, and lead to financials disaster, and could you even lead you to stealing money to gamble, think of all of those and think is it all worth it?.
There are early signs where you know you are getting addicted already and since addiction will not do good to our life we should avoid that. One signs of addiction is when you cannot end your day without gambling and you are always thinking of it. I understand gambling is fun but too much fun will lead to addiction, one you are addicted it will grow until it become a serious problem.
7235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: March 21, 2017, 12:36:31 PM
I'm usually able to quit before I lose too much. It's hard to stop sometimes because you want to try to get it all back, but you have to stop at some point and realize that the house usually wins.
Most of the time gamblers were aware that gambling house wins, but the winning hope as well the easy earning makes us to get stick to it. As mentioned realisation is must to have a regular participation. Else can just play and needs to end in a short because no one has a continuous luck.
We are surely aware of that reality but seem like we love to neglect it, we are still very aggressive to gamble and all we think is just to have the chance of wining. Most of the gamblers loses because we are one sided, we only think of the reward but we failed to evaluate the risk.
completely agree with your opinion , people lured by how high potential amount to win in gambling.
but ignore every aspect that actually could leading to something bad.
such as a broke , poor and ruin your relationship with people around you.
When you are in need of money and you gamble, you are prone to temptation and there is a big chance you cannot control yourself when you are winning or losing so much. Based on my observation, most of the people who have misfortune in gambling are those who are not living with financial freedom, they are those who are desperate to make money and instead of treating gambling for fun they take it as an option to make fast money.
7236  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it possible for us to hack some gambling sites? on: March 21, 2017, 06:48:21 AM
I have this weird things in my head, when i play gambling games like hacking the website and take all the bitcoin that i bet and their bitcoin they put in the website.. also every time lose i think about this kind of stuff hacking gambling websites is it possible for us? how can we manage to do it? is it really that secure?
I think it is possible , Just think that if you the attackers can attack on the high secured exchange sites then what is gambling sites , Since gambling sites are now much awaited for this type of activities , so they are using much better technology to keep himself safe from the hacker .
If you are a big programmer then you can hack the site but you need to do hardwork with more better gadgets and skill .
Here currently I will say impossible to steal money or bitcoin from the gambling sites .
I'm pretty sure it's not impossible, there is no perfect program and you need to know that. The reason why gambling sites keep updating their security is because there are threats of hacks, and while hacker keeping themselves updated on how to hack, gambling sites are also improving their security.
It works that way, therefore as a gambler, choose a gambling that is well known to be trustworthy as they can protect your money.
7237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: March 21, 2017, 06:30:37 AM
Yeah, it's the timing and spacing of gambling are things that should be taken into account. But if indeed they could not make a plan and execute it well with the perfect, then the behavior of the "stop at the right time" was only a dream. Because no one can stop at the right time when indeed they do not have a strong commitment. Let someone who has the establishment of strong and can adapt in something quickly, because it will determine the profit for us
 

Everyone know how to stop, they just choose not to. People keep trying too hard to win higher amount day by day and they forget what they are really looking for. They are looking for profit and even $1 count as a profit however most people will choose to keep on going , in the end they are going to lose everything
yeah the problem people will never feel enough on earn money ,
so no matter you have managed zero to hundreds dollar if you decide to continue play ,
then it could be back to zer even worse ,
you just need to be patient .
Human nature is always a greedy one without satisfaction. So people even on continued winning won't give a break, just goes on expecting more and more. This at times leads to entire losing and standing zero in the wallet.
Regret comes in last, you will not win in the long run if you are greedy enough, we can win but we cannot beat the house as they have unlimited money and they have all the advantage. Thinking to win is a positive attitude but without considering the risk is a stupid decision.
7238  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: March 20, 2017, 07:37:52 AM
Of course we can, no secret again if china is the largest owner of the bitcoin, many forums which states they unite for get the benefit of the price of the bitcoin.

Well it's worrying but it's possible China can manipulate the prices single handed due to their stake in the Bitcoin  mining network and the amount of Bitcoin owners and bitcoins in their possession. The prices are generally regulated by demand and supply and since they have more in their possession they can either creat a demand (by refusing to sell) or create an abundance of supply.
But that will require the collaboration and coordination of thousands of individuals and organization, I think it it is way more likely that just a few big whales are the ones trying to manipulate the price of bitcoin since that is way easier to coordinate than many individuals.
It's either a small group of whales are manipulating the price because it's hard to make a bigger group that would cooperate in manipulating the price.
Although I don't know who really are manipulating the price but I believe it's happening because the price movement is not normal anymore, one time it will pump and the next thing will happen is dump.
7239  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: March 20, 2017, 07:17:15 AM
Easy method here;

Shill for BU hard fork in the forums. Encourage miners for the HF. Let the HF takes place as soon as possible. Exchange your RogerVer coins with Bitcoins without wasting a second after the HF

 = Easy Profit.
Great fantasy you have. Do you realize that when a fork takes place and there are 2 chains as result, that it will result in a massive dump throughout all exchanges?

I am not talking about a dump to $700-$800 but more in the range of sub $500 prices where I won't be surprised if it happens to sink even below $400 for a certain time.

If you take that into consideration, what would you then gain from selling your BU coins? If BU gets it's own exchange listing, it won't even come close to 10% of Bitcoin's price.

I know there will be a dumpfest but what you say is exactly what i want, cheap bitcoins.  Cool I would definitely buy a lot more bitcoins if the price dropped to 400$'s.

In the long term, btu will be destroyed and btc will recover very fast.
I guess It will not drop that low, that is very alarming if it will happen, based on my analysis, the price will just be stable at $1,000 and will slowly grow to $1,200 in the coming days. I can see it now, the price is slowly rising and it's a good timing to buy now for sure.
7240  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph Official Thread on: March 20, 2017, 06:55:38 AM
Good to know that theres a Coins.ph thread now. Yung mga tanong ko masasagot na.. Ang tanong ko po is pwede ba ako makagawa ng account sa coins.ph kahit di ko muna iverify? Thanks po.

Pwedeng pwede yan, ako nga meron 2 account, isang fully verified at isang wala pa verification kahit phone lang ginagamit ko lng taguan ng savings at hindi ko kinukuha hanggang kaya, kaya walang problema dyan except hindi ka makakapag cashout
That's a good decision to save but I guess in order for your savings to be safe it's better to verify a certain account. Why not just save your bitcoins into your verified wallet and just do not spend it, all you need is just a discipline to go on with your goal. Me, I have two accounts since my other one is still awaiting for second level verification, I used my wife's account and good thing it's okay for here.
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