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7281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: March 03, 2017, 07:56:04 AM
Every investment comes with some degree of a risk, so I personally took as a rule for myself to never invest more than I can afford to lose. It's nice to have a passive income, but if you have invested a significant portion of your saving, than potential damage from losing your investment due to various reasons (exit scams, hacks, bitcoin crash etc.) would outweigh any potential gains. There nothing that can guarantee you safety for sure, even sites with long history can turn into scam in some day.
Everything should be considered and it's not wise to think that there is a guaranteed profit despite casinos are very profitable, the longer we put our money the bigger the risk and we know games are played that way. What you can guarantee to yourself is the house always win and you side with them but other than that, negative things can happen to define the fact that you are taking the risk.
7282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Attraction on: March 03, 2017, 07:20:42 AM
The characteristic I like the best about bitcoin is that our money really belong to us, unlike fiat, banks and governments can seize your fiat with such an ease, one minute you have money and the next you are penniless, this cannot happen with bitcoin.
The ownership belongs to us as well even if it's fiat and the government will not confiscate our funds if that is not coming or use in illegal activities. In fact, our money is safer with banks since it's secured and insured. I am attracted with bitcoin not because people say so, it's my experience that makes me stay here, I love to be entertain in gambling and earn in trading, and my interest were serve well by bitcoin.
7283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: March 03, 2017, 06:17:35 AM
$2000 is a new dream after we think about $1000 last year. Well, I think bitcoin fluctuations price make us support it until now. It makes us dream day by day with all the questions and speculation about the price and development.
I always beleive, 2017 will be a great year for bitcoin.
That dream will surely come true, it's still very early and we are in third month of this year and yet the progress is already awesome. As the price will continue to rise bitcoin is getting stronger in our eyes and for me, this year could be the best year of bitcoin but thanks to the last halving for making this possible to us now.
7284  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: March 03, 2017, 05:56:19 AM
Should I believe in Bitcoin ?
I have 10k $ and maybe going to buy  , but I doubt the further development of Bitcoin and I'm afraid to lose money! Can you convince me or dissuaded from buying?

Yes, you should believe in bitcoin, as you can see now the value so far is getting so high. So what are you waiting for if you can buy bitcoin take the chance as long as you can afford to buy it.
You don't need any reason to convince you right now. As I believe bitcoin, last year I bought 8 bitcoins, and now the price has risen several times. Investment is risky, if you are afraid of losing money, then I suggest you put money in the bank.
Exactly, investment does not guaranteed automatic success, so if you are afraid and you are not a risk taker then it's not for you. We came here because we want to grow our money fast and not just because others said it's very lucrative here but because we believe on the potential of bitcoin.
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7286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Despite all the FUD Bitcoin proved to be worth it! on: March 02, 2017, 06:01:54 AM
Only those who have no enough knowledge about bitcoin will listen to FUD. I like when they dump so we can buy.Actually, with this price that we are seeing now, it is the evidence that there are more believers than those who doubt.For me, when the price is still not this high, it gives me a little doubt and I was not too aggressive with my investment but time like this has come to prove me wrong.
7287  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: March 02, 2017, 05:42:54 AM
many people predict that soon there will be a dump. it makes people think to sell bitcoin they have, and maybe some people will think that bitcoin will be considered dead again. but, I feel it will not happen, because the current price of bitcoin really become stable.
In my opinion, all these shouts and cries over the dead bitcoin, nothing more than a desire to mislead users, whose faith in bitcoin does not has a strong spirit. This is another way to earn a rate fluctuations bitcoin.
Whatever they said without any legit evidence about it or just misleading predictions, we won't buy it, simply not trustworthy.
Bitcoin will not die as long as people use/trade bitcoin, just like other currencies (it won't fade away).
Those negative issues regarding bitcoin may spread to influence users sell out their bitcoin and the price will fall down, so they could buy cheaper bitcoin.
If we will not allow it to die, it won't. We, the people who adopted are the only way to make this successful, and based on the current progress it everyday bitcoin is getting stronger and the community is bigger. Therefore, if this will die, it will not happen now when it's very progressive.
The price has break the all time high and that proves bitcoin is here to stay because we choose it to happen.
7288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: March 02, 2017, 02:29:08 AM
I always do this. If I made a profit with my deposit I only play with the profit. This the way I like to play most of the time.
By doing this I know I am not going to lose a lot of money because I only make one deposit each time I play.
Everyone has different method but for me I don't consider it as a profit yet if I'm still playing. I can only tell that for a day I'm profitable when I stop gambling and withdrew with a profit. I have a target to get and once I hit it already, I automatically stop and I'm able to follow my game plan for years already.
7289  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: SHARE NYO NAMAN PINAGKAKAKITAAN NYO on: March 02, 2017, 02:16:57 AM
Ako yung ibang pinagkakakitaan ko eh kapag kumita ako ng bitcoin ininvest ko siya sa iba't ibang lugar. Gusto ko sana bumili ng maraming mga pampasaherong sasakyan pwedeng tricycle kaso konti lang ang bitcoin ko gagamitin ko sana pang bounderihan para may passive income ako. Ganun din may paupahan na ako na ibang source ko sa ngayon.

ok sana ang naiisip mo mag pundar ng tricycle pero hindi basta basta yun kikitain dito sa forum, lalo na kung magsignature campaign ka lamang mas mapapabilis ka kung pagaaralan mo ang trading kasi dun talaga ang kitaan bukod sa signature campaign. yung iba kasi ang gawain ay nagtatrading pag sumahod na sa signature campaign.

Oo nga po eh mahirap ang kitain dito kung signature campaign ka lang kasi depende yan sa quality ng post mo. Pero yan lang talaga naisip kong pagkakakitaan pa na maganda yung pabounderihan, merong boundary hulog pero ayaw ko yung ganun para sakin parin yung unit ng motor o sasakyan. Sa trading kasi medyo di ko pa gamay.
Renting your motorcycle or motorcab will not give you a good amount of income, the ROI is not that fast and the capital is huge. I think we should be learning how to trade now as with little capital we can make a good amount of return, any business that is not too risky will only give a little return.
I'm sure you guys have bigger dreams and I'll tell you now, this is the place to fulfill our dreams.
7290  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: March 02, 2017, 02:06:55 AM
Many times so far it turned out that holding Bitcoins long time is smart decision and current price confirms that. Users who were patient enough have profited now.
Bitcoin market changes, has ups and downs but it's important not to fall for feelings every time but keep the cool head and make good decisions.
A true long term trader doesn't care about the current problems or even the high price because he knows that the price will go even higher after few years and that is when he will go selling if the price doubled or tripled the current price now. Long term is the best way to make profit in bitcoin especially if you buy a lot of bitcoins now and then sell it after 4-5 years.

depend on this situation, i am sure that long term trader will have big profit in their wallet because i think they buy bitcoin from cheap price and now when they see the price is increase, they will be happy and have a big smile, they will talk to other people that holding bitcoin for a long term is the best thing that we can do. i am sure that in out there, many people is holding their bitcoin from a long time ago and they have much of bitcoin in their wallet and they are waiting good price like now to sell the bitcoin.
I'm sure they don't think that way, they can make good profit but they will not share their formula to be profitable. They think that it's better to keep it themselves so they can abuse it and they will be richer as bitcoin is existing.

People who can afford to invest a good amount of capital but not a big risk takers will not get the best profit in trading, this is the place for risk takers.
7291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: February 28, 2017, 05:57:24 AM
Bitcoin is a store of value because it can operate without government.
Money don't.
That is the base of bitcoin as we could control our asset and not someone else and that is the main difference between the two .You can control your money if your asset is in digital form and you really cannot have full control over your assets if it is controlled by any centralized government.
We can also control because that is our money after all, but the control in bitcoin is different since we will not only control it in full we can also hide that we have something since we do not need to comply with the KYC of the government. In banks when we deposit, we need to fill up a form and attach document to prove our identity and that information can be shared by government agencies which might give us problem in the future.
7292  Economy / Speculation / Re: I don't want a $2,000 bitcoin by February on: February 28, 2017, 05:44:07 AM
Don't worry, it won't happen either way. It's already declining rather fast.
The best way is not to look at price at all, but at the number of transactions, that's what determines success imho.
This is the best statement so far, let's not get trick by the price movement and just like what experts said, we should see the volume of adoption than the current price movement. If the volume does commensurate with the price movement then it means we are going to the moon again.
7293  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: February 28, 2017, 03:04:13 AM
When 1 bitcoin becomes $1000000.  Grin
Wow 1 bitcoin becomes $1000000 I think it is not happen even if after 100 years or 1000 years. That amount is so very very big. I think bitcoin hit $10,000 is possible but 20-50 years from now . I plan to sell my all bitcoin when the price reach at $1500-$2000 to make a lot of profit from it. And I want to back the price at $1000 and then I buy more bitcoin and wait again until the price increase. If I wait that price of bitcoin "1Million dollars I think " On that Day Im dead and my grandchildren will see the price of bitcoin but If the bitcoin price will hit that like amount is very big impossible .
I think he is just trolling that price is possible but i take a long time for that and we didn't know what will happen before it hits that price.
$1000 is good price to buy but i am hoping lower than that price . Cheesy  my plan is to sell everday as much as i see a bug fluctuation that i can make even small amounts of profits . Having a eise decisions for now i don't plan to wait only if there is a chance for me to take advantage and follow its price.
Selling for a profit is good but this time we need to take advantage of the situation, we see that the price is rising so maybe we should take time to wait before selling. Me, I make it a point that by the time I sell, I will be able to cash out big as this kind of price increase does not happen all the time.
7294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: February 24, 2017, 03:19:03 AM
How does one Put down Gambling for good?
try to make yourself busy with other things that would keep you distracted,
So that you could stay away from gambling or stay with your family and friends.

Earnest intention to quit is the most important thing when we wanted to leave gambling. Doing other stuffs and keep busy on it will help us to gain our intention.
That's the best advice but let's see how a gambler would react on it, there are a lot of good advises to quit but it is still important that addicted gamblers should follow it. It's a process that he needs to do consistently, words are useless if we cannot take it into action which I believe the hardest part.
7295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: February 24, 2017, 02:54:20 AM
Small betting amounts is preferred as I cannot afford or borrow through lending services after losing a big amount in a single shot. Several incidents I've felt that if I've placed a big amount I could have won big, but everyone doesn't get the possible coolness to risk big.
Of course, by saying small amount that means it will not affect us so much every time we lose and close definition is, it is just a little portion of our income. It's better to bet small amount as that will represent you are only doing gambling for fun and will not make you rage when you lose. Losing is already a big part of our experience in gambling but what makes us still doing it is we have to be more matured and accept it easily.

That is really true. But in reality, it is also more fun and entertaining to gamble with big amount of bankroll - but this is really risky though, better gamble only a portion of your money that you can really afford to lose.
As long as you can afford it, the fun is always there, but the bigger you bankroll is, it will make you nervous with your bets since you cannot take away the fear of losing. Making ourselves very positive will encourage us to bet more but we cannot erase the reality that we can lose also.
7296  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: February 24, 2017, 02:33:12 AM
- I can only say the future of Bitcoin is extremely unpredictable. Now, Bitcoin is like a storm, it is gradually going the pinnacle and become the King of the virtual currency, prices are rising quickly. But, I feel this is a huge problem because rapid increase make it become unstable, if continued, it will collapse. Price as a bubble, if the strain it will explode. However, in my opinion Government will soon accept and control it, the future of it will be developed, it can replace paper money became common currency of the world
Perhaps we wait for good prospects for bitcoin only when the bitcoin mining is coming to an end. Here are just a count at least approximately does not seem possible time. Still need to take into account the loss of bitcoin and their keys.
That's a good move although it's still a long time that we need to wait before we can find the answer we need, right now is the time to invest because if you believe that bitcoin will be the future and possibly replace paper money then expect the price might be x10 or more with the current price.
We have our own speculation and therefore we should put our money based on what we think it will happen, it's time to gamble now.
7297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 24, 2017, 02:16:20 AM
No I am not rich yet from gambling but I am hoping I will hit the lottery jackpot so that I will be rich from gambling.  I doubt I can rich just by sportsbetting or playing dice or poker.  I have a very low bankroll and all I need is the lottery Jackpot for the millionaire thing.

There is really no wrong in wishing to win in the lottery - it is fine. However, your chances of winning in sportsbetting, dice, and playing poker, is more than winning in the lottery.
That's normal because you can't win as big as the reward in the lottery, actually you can also make your sports betting as lottery likes by doing a many legs parlay that would give a payout which will satisfy you. The more legs to put in a parlay would mean the chances of winning is lessen while the reward is getting higher, it's up to you but it's more fun to do it in sports as you can analyze it prior.
7298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: February 23, 2017, 07:19:50 AM
I will say gambling is risking money to earn more money or risking money to lose money with a prepared mind of accepting whatever outcome that may come your way.
That's not in our mind if we do gambling, we love to play because we want to win and we will only enjoy if we will win. Though most of the time we lose, but still we need to be very positive so luck will come and will give us an opportunity to win. Losing is already given but there is no challenge if we think we will lose every time we gamble.
7299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: February 23, 2017, 05:04:41 AM
I don't believe in anything like that. All I know is when you are lucky ,then you are lucky, and you can't tell that before it happens but after. Usually I can see those fortune tellers telling you things that you want to hear and warn you on things that you are already afraid of. It's like guessing the next thing that would happen on a movie according to what you see in other. 
to me i personally believe on my luck, luck is an important part of our life. to me i as hard work and struggle is important for our luck but still i think without luck we cannot succeeded. in our practical life we can see that some good luck people are the owner big companies where more skillful and experienced people are working.

They are indeed lucky but they combined their luck with a hardwork. That is why they have reached that point. You won't be successful if you just rely on your luck. If you work hard but still not achieved what you want then there might be something missing from you. IMO as long as i can give my family what they deserve i can call myself successful. I don't need to own some big companies.
Keep it up and your principle is right as long we are not losing and still could able to sustain the needs of our family then we should keep moving forward since we do all know we can make money on that way. Luck wont work anytime and as you said it does also require some hardwork.
Family is our first priority, therefore before we gamble we should have a budget strictly for the needs of the family and while we are on our journey, we should not be tempted to spend the money not intended in gambling anymore if we run out of money. Other gamblers are tempted to spend the money they cannot afford to lose and that is one of the reason why the family relationship were ruined.
7300  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 Provably Fair! Sites with provably fair system 🔶 on: February 23, 2017, 04:47:47 AM
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Have you ever tested the provably fair system before depositing your money there?
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I make a habit of always reviewing and verifying games when I play on someone else's site. I'm pretty cool with losing money, but I want to be damn sure it was bad luck and not me being cheated.

That what my point is. I mean how many of us really test the site for being probably fair. Some newbies in gambling like me never thought that casinos or dice sites can really cheat and still standing in online industry after getting caught. And most of us think that if it's running from those many years then it must be a fair site.
Well, for me I really do not spend time checking by myself if the system is provably fair or not because I do not have the idea how to check it, I only play dice with a very minimum amount and do it just for fun. My method to determine is just by observing the bettors, if I see there is a big bets coming in and big traffic, that would already prove my doubt that this site is provably fair. My thinking is if big rollers trust them, why can't I.
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