great start to the IPO on havelock.
HIF last trade ฿0.00015100 - down nearly 80%
It wasn't the best ipo but price of last trade has risen to .0005 today |
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Lol, have the decency to buy a new account  Regardless, i'll answer your questions, even though they've already been answered in this thread before: 1. Many here can honestly say they made money trading Labcoin and other scams. A broken clock only tells correct time twice a day, but you can make money on a scam day in & day out. All that's required is a steady supply of grater fools. 2. After i tell you not to "invest" in this Three-Card Monte game, you repeatedly asked which Three-Card Monte game i would recommend. To be painfully explicit: I would not recommend investing in *any*. I haven't answered you directly out of politeness, assuming no sane person would ask something that stupid. Now stop asking idiotic questions & shitting up this thread pl0x. There is not much else I can do to convince you that my account is genuine, but none-the-less that is not the issue. Thank you for your response. I partially agree with you in that newbies just getting into Bitcoin should not be buying BTC funds, unless they were bonds something like XBOND, which unfortunately is no longer available. Mining shares should be treated with caution as even though the Network hash rate has somewhat stabilized it could quickly double or triple in the near future as new chips are available. Other Funds for new ventures require that VC investors should do their own research and invest accordingly. Bitcoin itself will become more valuable as more businesses are created that utilize it in new ways and also that help provide links to the traditional banking system. This is where the VC funded businesses come into play. VC investors take more risk to get these businesses started. Right now we are seeing much more gain in Bitcoin itself, but I believe that will slow down (sometime in the future) and that some of the successful VC businesses will start to really pay off. I do however strongly believe that Havelock is genuinely trying to vet and offer the best VC funds and also provide access to the best mining based funds that the market desired. I also believe that they are genuinely trying to run the HMF mining fund in the best way possible to balance between buying new equipment and paying dividends. You suggest they are trying to outright scam everyone and I do not believe that to be true based on my experience. I can understand someone simply trying to help the newbies. Factual based explanations rather than vicious straw-man attacks would further your cause. I sincerely hope you did not lose too much money (BTC) that you have become this bitter. Pax Vobiscum Crumbs is an insignificant troll.... best ignored. |
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Cheers and congrats everyone! Time to move out of mom's basement  |
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Seriously, what if they gave a war and nobody came?
It would be complete anarchy. Oh noes! Nice to have you around Walter. It's always great to read from polite, well informed individuals like yourself. |
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I agree. My wife's aunt said the same thing today. Its still a need.
A solution is needed.
Anyone who claims this isn't an issue has no non-BTC friends or family.
Anyone who has non BTC friends or family that aren't loaded, has heard someone say "I cant buy in now. Its too late. Its too expensive".
Maybe these people shouldn't be buying BTC? |
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I think this kind of talk is ridiculous. You want to switch to mBTC just so the perception of value changes to the point that the public will be ok with buying again? The client will switch to BTC/mBTC/uBTC for personal convenience, not to fool people into a perception of lower valued units.
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It's getting like that fight from "They live".
They are all out of bubblegum. |
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How many asic companies are there that are delivering in-hand hardware and not needing to rely on pre-orders to develop it? How many companies in the world (virtual or not) are there that have no debt?
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are is the 200 BTC order at .47 manipulation or did i miss something?
Someone is reading the forum with their calculator handy. We already know how tied the share price is with the dividend. Does anyone think it won't work in reverse? |
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What, 9000? There's no way that could be right.
Update
Current Hardware Sales
The number of cubes left for sale/deployment is 9000. About 1/3 are ordered already. All older devices (USBs/new blades) are sold out.
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At this point I'm baffled that share price is even at this measly 0.4BTC price point.
Well, the mining wallet has already 278.67567769 BTC. For the last dividend 329.70382331 BTC were transfered from the mining wallet. @ 354, now. Yes, plus there is at least 9000 btc incoming from cube sales. Preorder? Yeah, a preorder that pays you nice divs while waiting for the motherload. |
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he is obviously trying to pick some up for cheap.
This is what I was trying to do, too. It's what everyone will be trying to do before march. |
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Tell me you wouldn't be triple checking the "send to" address before firing that puppy off |
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Did I miss something or you just make it up?
Please stop making shit up guys.  And no one should care about the last 3 hours hashrate, too. No blocks for 3 hours??? OMFG, the world is about to go up in flames!!! Maybe a few troll sacrifices will save us from certain incineration  (hopefully before my ignore list becomes so big it threatens the space/time continuum) Cluck cluck cluck! p.s. I like the holliday quote in the sig. |
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Obviously the Washing Post is trolling the bitcoin community.  yep |
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Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount... I suppose comparing to gold or oil would be the answer. maybe water? A basket of water perhaps? |
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I think we're looking at it the wrong way. Maybe bitcoin isn't destined to become a currency, but something else. It's deflationary, has no consumer protection, transfers are irrevocable and no identities are tied to the addresses. How can this ever become a currency?
Bitcoin is super silver. I like it! |
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Bitcoin doesn't need to be a currency to be successful. It will in fact be wildly successful even if only functioning as a store of value, the tax havens amounts to trillions. The first phase is speculation and this is where we are now... people believe in bitcoins future potential and that is what drives the price up and the large market cap will make it viable for large fortunes to be stored in bitcoin, eventually it will stabilize at much higher prices. At that point it will work well as a way to settle debt even if we're not able to do as many transactions as other networks I don't think it matters. Micro-transactions can happen off-chain, big money stored safely away from government and bankers.
How can big money be stored away safely if bitcoin is still tied to fiat currency? If fiat currency collapses, bitcoin no longer has anything to compare itself to, so how would we express value then? Using valuation in bitcoin itself? How would that work since there's a limited amount... I suppose comparing to gold or oil would be the answer. |
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