With no information to go by there is nothing to pm him. You might want to post more relevant information. I cant just pm ticked and tell him hey dont cancel "insert name" purchase. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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Dont really know who that was. Possibly could be bitmain with some "spare" units laying around that they jammed on the network. Either way any one trick pony miner is scary to own because profits can turn to vapor while you are asleep
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This looks like a good project that has a real life application! Went through your article and I have to admit it is well detailed and describes very well the token sale and distribution process
![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) There is no token sale because this isnt a token. New coins are generating via pow mining. Are you sure you read it right?
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Wait did i just read that merit infected this pure forum. I would like to understand your definition of a "pure forum". And after merit is when all the spam came in? You havent read this forum much before january have you. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Even if bitcoin ended at $5k at the end of the year that is a great long term trend. Remember 2014 - 2016 and where we are at now. I think as more people get into bitcoin itself which they have, than i think the collectable market can only grow.
I agree I mention that all the time to people now, $5k is a major psych support area but thats still huge compared to the last couple years as an investment. Just need the new people to stay in long term now. In the beginning of 2017 if you told me we'd be at $2,500 i would have signed up for it 10 out of 10 times. The doom and gloom is caused by the volitility but if you've been through enough market ups and downs its easier to see the long term trends, not so much for people who jumped in. But you can equate it to the people who jumped in on the rise to $1,000 in 2013 *raises hands* and walked it all the way down to under $175. In a time when outlook was bleek the strong got rewarded. We are in a MUCH more stable place than 2015 so i am fine with this downtrend. Lets me buy more. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Even if bitcoin ended at $5k at the end of the year that is a great long term trend. Remember 2014 - 2016 and where we are at now. I think as more people get into bitcoin itself which they have, than i think the collectable market can only grow.
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Thats a decent ETH hashing speed. Wonder what that unit will cost.
Probably more than the ability to roi them this decade. I imagine as with others they will look to the "average" person you can roi them in a month or 2, than they slam the market with units and in reality they become 12-18 month roi units
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Silvers ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Did i miss any announcement thread? And interested in the mintage as well on them. My goldie needs a friend. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I support the idea of protecting coin algorithms from the use of asics. But how can we force developers to do that. For them, it does not matter who will be able to mining. But for decentralization mining and survivability of the coin is of great importance. How to explain this to the developers, I don't know.
You cannot force anyone to do anything. In fact, a great many developers are ASIC pro, not against, due to the high volume of hashrate that can be achieved to secure network through PoW. My firm belief is that GPU mining will ALWAYS have a place, and that the largest component to this is the home user. However, for assurance that this will be the future, there needs to be stability in the GPU mining systems, and the current state of affairs in the GPU market is abhorrent. Almost NO decent GPU can be had, and the manufacturing giants are elevating the prices of GPU's much higher than they are actually worth. This is a side effect, and a negative one at that, of the market at play here. We know, we buy and supply the GPU's. Shortages are not the only problem, though price is a major one. So ASIC's become much more attractive in that case, as they come close to the price of GPU's in the medium level ASIC market. What does this mean on an overall level? Simply that NO ONE can kill ASIC's, just like NO ONE can kill GPU's. I believe there will be a balance of all mining hardware, and that this balance will be maintained WELL into the future of mining. The fact that the head of nVidia himself believes that mining will be a core aspect of the business proves that the GPU mining will be alive and well MUCH deeper into the future than what anyone can conceive. As for the Algo change, that is not difficult at all. We know, we have designed a few ourselves which will appear shortly in our coins. Getting around an adaptive ASIC/FPGA miner is! #crysx Dont have the misconception that high hashpower = secure. I for one would rather a lower hashrate but many more people on the network. And hashrate is reletive to the machines available to mine. Wrong ... That is where 51% attacks come from. Security is a hashrate phenomenon, whether you or I like it or not. If the network is a GPU hashed PoW and has 25MH, while we come along with our 'theFARM' and thrash the network at 250MH, then the network has a massive issue. MH or GH, the figures stand. #crysx So you are saying when bitmain developed the x11 they couldnt have 51% the dash network....they crushed the network....i.e. asics. What phil is saying is to be adaptive and change algos. You have stated that there might be adaptive asics coming out, i am no tech guru but i dont believe thats how asic chips are designed...they do one thing and do that one thing very well
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I support the idea of protecting coin algorithms from the use of asics. But how can we force developers to do that. For them, it does not matter who will be able to mining. But for decentralization mining and survivability of the coin is of great importance. How to explain this to the developers, I don't know.
You cannot force anyone to do anything. In fact, a great many developers are ASIC pro, not against, due to the high volume of hashrate that can be achieved to secure network through PoW. My firm belief is that GPU mining will ALWAYS have a place, and that the largest component to this is the home user. However, for assurance that this will be the future, there needs to be stability in the GPU mining systems, and the current state of affairs in the GPU market is abhorrent. Almost NO decent GPU can be had, and the manufacturing giants are elevating the prices of GPU's much higher than they are actually worth. This is a side effect, and a negative one at that, of the market at play here. We know, we buy and supply the GPU's. Shortages are not the only problem, though price is a major one. So ASIC's become much more attractive in that case, as they come close to the price of GPU's in the medium level ASIC market. What does this mean on an overall level? Simply that NO ONE can kill ASIC's, just like NO ONE can kill GPU's. I believe there will be a balance of all mining hardware, and that this balance will be maintained WELL into the future of mining. The fact that the head of nVidia himself believes that mining will be a core aspect of the business proves that the GPU mining will be alive and well MUCH deeper into the future than what anyone can conceive. As for the Algo change, that is not difficult at all. We know, we have designed a few ourselves which will appear shortly in our coins. Getting around an adaptive ASIC/FPGA miner is! #crysx Dont have the misconception that high hashpower = secure. I for one would rather a lower hashrate but many more people on the network. And hashrate is reletive to the machines available to mine.
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Hi @philipma1957 , miners do secure blockchains, it does not matter what device is used. The value of a coin does not come out of "how" it is mined. Use case and adoption gives value. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) PanneKopp You are missing the point, he is not talking about value of a coin. He is talking about keeping gpu mining alive, and yes miners secure the blockchain but not when asic mining is a mainly centralized venture. Gpu miners allow for easy entry for people to mine crypto.
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the best card to buy is eth $400 and you will get your roi in few days, there is no better card to buy right now. With $3k you can buy 7 eth cards.
Do you mean just straight buy eth i am assuming? If so roi is instantaneous ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) OP If you are new to the game i would spend a lot less, learn the ropes and buy straight crypto with the rest. Once you get your feet wet and learn your way around then go in deeper. My 2 cents
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This is so easy buy the 420 coupons for bitmain
sellers are asking 70 so it is 350 off
the t9 is 755 so 755 +100 = 855 + 70 = 925 - 420 = 505 for 10.5 th
or 4545 for 94.5 th get some psus.
and the gear would just earn money till it all dies
@ 4% diff jumps you would be ahead 763 in 154 days @ 5% diff jumps you would be ahead 456 in 154 days @ 6% diff jumps you would be ahead 170 in 154 days
@ 7% diff jumps you would be ahead 492 in 184 days 2670 in 1 year
I assume coin price of 6950
Agree, i would probably buy the L3+s but i would mine on a pool, get my capital investment back and sell the L3s. At that point reasess and buy the most profitable asic at that time. Wash rinse repeat. Keeps you in the profit and with the latest most profitable gear out at that time.
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Thatz right "boyz" he shut his crap down! More coins for us! Muahahahahaha. #retard The best time to mine is when every clown such as the OP here is shutting their shit off because these are the non-intelligent ones of the species showing their true colors not knowing how mining actually works. It doesnt take a genius to figure out that crypto is squeezing out the weak minds. "Another one bites the dust" is the more appropriate song here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsYUruhJ0eo (Deadpool remix for the extra LoLz, there is blood in the streets "boys", its go time ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) So to all you miners out there, SHUT YOUR CRAP OFF PLEASE!! I NEED DA COINAGES! lol. A little harsh, there are times when it makes sense to shut down your miners, although i agree with most here, there is plenty of profit to be had but in the tighter times you have to be more proactive and read tons to stay on top of your game. But if the op is losing money than its not a bad idea to shut down...
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) OMG, yes, I was kidding...I just think that these redeemed coins fetch a a nice fat purse, is all.... They do. Not long ago peeled cas coins couldve been had for under $100 each for any of them. Wish i didnt sell the ones i had, now i want them back ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Satoshi should atleast show up in this forum once in a while and let us know his opinions on the present state of Bitcoin and the Forum. That will save us a lot of speculative posts about him and provide space for more important discussions.
Satoshi doesnt owe the forum a visit nor would his view on the forum change anything. How would his "dropping in" lead to more important discussions?
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bitmain just lowered their prices on all asics and dumping asics all on the market now.
Wow tough luck for those that bought last week at a much higher price. L3+ now only $855
I rather get an L3+ over a 1080 ti anyday. This alone should cause GPU prices to crash down back to true MSRP.
Can't believe the even further price drops on the antminers . . I mean 300 bucks for a d3? lol... (its appropriate for what it earns. . but they could have just made less) Vosk in a perfect world they would make and sell asics at a nice equilibreum (enough retail sales with customers able to roi and then some, everyones happy) but unfortunately thats not the world we live in. If people stopped buying up every asic so quick they might slow down but if one person holds back on buying there will be someone else who does. Its a winless race.
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Do you have any references or anything? Will be tough for someone to just send a new member expensive gear to run. One because you can dash off with it and next your setup and conditions the gear will be in. Its a rough space to enter and with no information you will be hard pressed to find any customers
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Wow if you are new into collecting you pretty much can get whatever you need right from this thread. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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