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7441  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: How do Online Wallets Survive ?? on: August 14, 2016, 02:29:57 PM
There are many online wallets like Xapo and Coinbase that do not charge any transaction fees or they pay that fees by themselves. I want to know that how would they profit from paying for their user's transaction fees ?
If no fees is charged then the transaction take a much long time or even might get cancelled !
they have profits from ads, if a lot of peoples are using it means that a lot of peoples see that ads and they earn good profit from that
From ads? I never seeing the advertise in the blockchain and maybe the source income for surviving just coming from the tax fee from every transaction. but for blockchain, i'm not feeling doubt about that because every second is always there a transaction.
7442  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: August 14, 2016, 12:51:02 PM
I think that 2017 can't beat 2016 casue of halving, but if price in 2017 will be around $600 it's okay, but i don't really want to see $450 price again.
well anything is possible right now, in my opinion the price would also be possible to go even over than the price that was this year because more people will adopt
This year actually is very crucial and it would dictate the outcome of 2017, let us hope for the best for the year 2016 to reflect its success in 2017. I think the price now is already good but we are still pushing it to go to $1,000 and that is a major improvement if it could happen.
It might be a major improvement, but $1,000 over such a short period of time might end up causing a bubble (since we'd have to go up $400 over five months) and while it is possible, there are likely a bunch of people that would sell off and end up with Bitcoin's value collapsing. Smaller increases that keep going upwards and allow for people to sell are the best things that can happen within the market, and that simply wouldn't get us to $1,000.
Despite a bunch of people selling bitcoin when prices fall still will not make bitcoin collapse and I think 2017 has the potential for prices to rise sharply but we can hope much to see the price could back to $1000.

Everyone is hoping to see that price in this year, but there is no guarantee that we will see that price very soon but still prefer to hold my coins until we reach to that level.
But after seeing the situation of the market I can say it's will take a long time for bitcoin to reached it because we know if the bitcoin is showing the markings their price will increase and at the same time is happening or appearing another case can make bitcoin is falling again.
7443  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: August 14, 2016, 12:17:28 PM
Buy altcoins, like etc, eth, steem, xcp, strat, and so forth. They are legit ones, in the future will be pumped seriously.
Looks like the ETC pump is starting, still in the very early stages, whales are probably still accumulating on the low 30's before moon.
the etc is definitely not going to be pumped just right now, the price has to fall a little bit more and then i think that the new all time high might be reached

Yes its good time to invest in etc and if you invest 10 btc in it and if price pumps up then you can make huge profits from it in very quick duration.
Seems it's correct etc will become a good place for invest in alt section because the ETC is starting become good altcoins like eth we can see from their volume and their users are always increasing.
7444  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why would customers use Bitcoins? on: August 14, 2016, 11:24:20 AM
Customers would use bitcoin because they dont need paper money and they will pay what they want to buy fastly and bitcoin system can improve shopping system it will let easly shopping for customers because of they would use bitcoin .
I don't think so will never need a paper money but this is true is refers to the online transaction but nothing for their living and how they can filling their daily needs without fiat money, are you sure for using bitcoin?
7445  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: BUYING FULL MEMBER ACCOUNT - 0.013 BTC BUDGET on: August 14, 2016, 07:01:52 AM
go to auctions board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=73.0
there are several auctions at there and you could bid the prices and if you were lucky you could get full member account with cheap price
How much trust-able are those accounts? Are they able to get back their accounts with some claims?

If you do your research correct you will get the account without any risk, you must ask for signed message and check if the account has more then one adress, usually the owner of the account usually are the oldest adress. There are some accounts without adress those accounts you deal at your risk.


Bro However this thread should move to digital goods section and then we can this op user looking in negative trust So it's high risk to do account selling better He could check with that digital goods section or with neotax...
After seeing the trusted summary of the OP and I can say he is very dangerous because he wanna helping Ponzi to scam the other people but I sure later the account will used for scam another.
7446  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc2x Error NaN:NaN:NaN on: August 14, 2016, 06:51:53 AM
Lol, btc2x is a scam anyways, there's no way they can double your bitcoin consistently.
But is always there the people believe about that, for doubling their bitcoin and what a shame maybe they don't use their thinking. for a normal person doubling is like a magic and not reasonable.
7447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is Easier to Convince? Employer to Pay in BTC or Local Store to Accept BTC on: August 14, 2016, 06:07:13 AM
Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 
I already trying to do that, like tell the employer to consider for accepting bitcoin in their store. but he said if in our environment is not enough users of bitcoin and why he must accept bitcoin? and he rejected it.
7448  Other / Archival / Re: how to earn bitcoin fast? on: August 14, 2016, 06:00:17 AM
Earning bitcoin fast is not easy man.Bitcoin is also a money and earning any money fast require alot of hardwork and skill as well.You just wonder and explore around this forum and i am pretty sure that you will find some earning opportunities for yourself here.

Yes to obtain bitcoin quickly indeed need to be gradual and require hard work. So it is not easy to get it quickly. We got to try a lot of ways like a signature campaign and trade. Or may have a trade or gambling sites.

Gambling is an risky business you cannot expect guaranteed returns from it, trading is also risky but in compare to gambling its better choice to earn bitcoins fast.
It is better to spend more time on the job to earn bitcoin than risk having that there, gambling. Because gambling can pick up all the rest, without giving earn a coin.
Honestly its not recommended if you want to make a profit or make bitcoin fast be a hard worker.. and be muti tasker..

This is the good point from you because in this time a lot of people just thinking can earning bitcoin for instantly, but they do not remember all of that is will sue you for become a hard worker and multitasker and you need to providing your skill and your energy for that.
7449  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 14, 2016, 05:24:03 AM
Bitcoin won't drop to $1 but if it did the obvious thing to do would be to buy loads because even if the price only ever recovered to $10 you'd make a great profit.
very impossible. it is all of our dreams: D. with profits up to 10 times we could become very rich in a short time. but we will not know when it happened. we are all waiting for such an enjoyable time.  Grin

It would really not be enjoyable for us if something having a big value drops drastically and grow again for making us able to make 10 times profit, because even if we earn 10 times profit with 1 bitcoin at that time we will still not be able to recover out losses as the price right now is a lot compared to that so the coins we have now would be worthless.
i would buy btc worth 900$ that is 900 btc , and then will forget about it until next halving and i feel that till then btc price will not be 1$ may be somewhat higher than i bought , but this 1$ drop will not happen at-least not Smiley
Hahahaha maybe with investing $900 in BTC and you got 900 BTC and for several times the price of BTC is increased just for 1 dollar and you've got more than $800 for just for your profit ant that's amazing.
7450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Unlicensed Exchangers on: August 14, 2016, 05:19:43 AM
I do not know that those sites were illegal or unlicensed.  I am planning to signup on coinbase and xapo as I would like to explore other coin wallet.  It is easy to transfer bitcoins with those sites when it came from gambling sites. Grin

I have not heard of any issues regarding those sites as many of my friends uses them.  Anyways, I have an account on a legit coin wallet.
That's right, i think the exchanger is included in the personal business like another online shop maybe like the hosting site is not having a licensed.
but i never heard the exchange site is having problems with licensed until now.
7451  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin Marcetprice is down-now i want earn Money on: August 13, 2016, 03:10:25 PM
Hello ! I am new here and works 1 year with Bitcoins. At beginning i search Long Long Time for possible way to buy Bitzcoins Online. But stoped when ask me for Passport ot Driver licence (I have nothing)
And sometimes only sepa Banking was possible or creditcard but i want use Paypal or Express Transfer bank.
Now my easyiest Way for buy Bitcoins is to go to cigarettes shop thy cell Bitcoin for 25/50 Euro but for very high rates. Now i am searching Interent with searches like " Buy cheapest Bitcoins" or secretes Site to buy Bitcoins. I found out that in the UK The Rates are very small but it is ver heayvy to buy there.

Now my Question : I Need a Website (Secret??) where i have many Forms of Transfer Money to Website  like Paypal, Debit Creditcrard, Sofortüerweisung, Sepa, Neteller, Skrill and many others.
Second: i Need a eays to learn Bitcoin Trading Site, but in !German!
Third:is there a 30 seconds 60 seconds Trading Website in German ?
4. i read that Hacker hacks a very importend Bitcoin Site and now Bitcoins are falling down  very deep.
So i want got a Little risk and take small credit from my Bank of 2000-5000 Euro and want invest it in Bitcoins-But  , Speciality; i Need tho most possible cheapest BTC Price that is possible in Web. Please give me some Samples where i can invest safe my Money and after some time (when marcetprice is very high) i want sell my Bitcoins i a very safe way ( Please give my description and sample)

When everybody have a better Idea to earn Money superfast and superhigh in short Time, please say it me.

THX
For first you can go to the coinbase and check maybe their service is available for your country, but for their PayPal service just available for the UK.

Second, spend some of your effort or time in google with local keywords to searching local trading site in your area.

Third, What do you mean 30 seconds 60 seconds trading website?

fourth, That's right but the bitcoin is recovering their selves in this time you don't need doubt about that.
7452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What gives Altcoins value and make traders trade in them? on: August 13, 2016, 02:52:25 PM
Hello guys,

I'm new in trading and I've some issues that i didn't understand yet.

1st : What gives Altcoins value and make traders trade in them? Is the company of an altcoin invent it and start mining and put the coin in trading sites and that's all or what? no real investments and trading in real life?

2nd : People say buy when price is low and sell when high, so why don't smart traders buy very big amont when price is low and sell when high and earn lots of money? for example, buying a coin with 10 BTC amount and sell when price up 15% = earning 900$ !

3rd : How to trade in altcoins with knowledge of when the price will get low or high? I started trading with small amounts but i'm like buying and selling with just "Guessing". I mean in real life, country's economy and Imports/Exports control in its coin value, so in Cryptocurrencies just trading "Buying/Selling" the coin control in its price or what?


Thank you  Smiley
1 Because the alt value is same with bitcoin, in means you can trade or sale alt coins into BTC and it's same means you're using btc. alt value is coming from the investment of their developer can pump into significant value they're want

2 It's just expectation because the smart traders think about the risk too because we are doing the trading and anythings can happen at any time because of that you need a backup.

3 buying and selling having relation to demand and just giving an effect for the price but not for controlling the price.
7453  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you think is a good time to start trading ? on: August 13, 2016, 02:51:29 PM
I've started trading with a small amount, and it does not work well, because it is difficult to make a profit.

but when I tried it with the amount 0.01, at least it's getting better, and I can get a profit 0.01 in one times trading.
Lol, trading ith low amount will never giving a profit because it's just will exhaust because the fees. more capital and better profit you can get.
7454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "If" Bitcoin as scam on: August 13, 2016, 11:59:42 AM
Well in my opinion bitcoin cant be a scam, because its already make it debut and being used quite vast, and some country already adapt bitcoin, so in this case its impossible to declare bitcoin as a scam
That's right, if we saw from the realistic perspective in this time we can see a lot of people is believed with bitcoin and the statistic of bitcoin is always increase for every year and it's not possible for bitcoin to become a scam. maybe I can say like the people is can saying the bitcoin can be a scam is a drunk person. Cheesy
7455  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: August 13, 2016, 11:57:50 AM
I'm sure if you just give a woman a bunch of BTC and tell her to buy stuff that would be plenty motivation for her to use it..
It's not giving any motivation for the woman but it means you just giving an amount for her to spend t and buying and something, I don't think so after you're giving an amount the woman will be interested in using bitcoin. and want to learn about bitcoin. and using that.
7456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin WiFi T-shirt on: August 13, 2016, 10:56:43 AM
It seems like a really good idea. But we've seen scams with these kind of starts before. People raise money, then run. How do we know that you won't do the same?
Everything always has a slit for the scammer. maybe for later we can find the scammer is using a new method of offering a design like a t-shirt,jacket and another. the slit is always there in everything.
7457  Other / Off-topic / Re: What value does Bitcoin bring to you? on: August 13, 2016, 07:57:54 AM
I think bitcoin BTC is just investment & anonymity is excellent and the ability to transfer money without involving banks, like bitcoin because I want to get in on it so I don't lose out on the fun. I also like the no charge-back feature so its easier for the seller. I also think the way bitcoin operates is really interesting with the decentralized system.

And the low fees for sending bitcoins from a place to another, if you send the amount in fiat to somewhere you would have to pay a lot of fees and tax etc but with bitcoin you will just pay a one time small fee for just the transaction, and in some wallets you dont even have to pay any fee.
Especially you will always need to deposit your amount into the institutions is having transaction service. and before making a transaction will need a various your personal data for it, and that's really wasted a lot of your time
7458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting people to use Bitcoin- ideas on: August 13, 2016, 07:53:44 AM
Few people know the real benefits of Bitcoin. If they don't have benefit, they will not use it.

I created this Facebook page to explain just that to the general public- the value Bitcoin will bring to them:
https://www.facebook.com/Why-Bitcoin-1161569353908036/

Feel free to like and share.

All ideas are accepted!

I suggest this page to be owned by the community and everyone having ideas for getting people engaged with Bitcoin to post them here Smiley

Post your ideas for memes and posts here.

Let's tell the people what they are missing Cheesy

*In no way this page will ever be monetized!


i sugest to create a blog about this. facebook is full of spam posts
Okay, I agree with that. because in the facebook is full with auto bot poster, maybe for suggestion if you wanna making a blog for bitcoin and better for not putting a lot of advertising because there are a lot of bitcoin blog information but it's just fully with advertising and I'm really hated about that.
7459  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Were can you buy bitcoin? on: August 13, 2016, 07:49:15 AM
I was searching for places where we can buy bitcoin, however I did not find good results for online buying, I mean by good websites that are trustable and have low fees.
But in my minds better for choosing local exchanged because their service just covered your local area maybe the fees will more reduce rather than buying from the foreign site. but like me I have someone always provides a service for me and he just charge very little fees I I wanna selling my bitcoin into him.
Yes, it can be fine but may not work in many cases such as online buying or if you are not at the place where you could find the local guy whom you do exchange with them.
But whether buying from the local exchange is not included on the online buying categorize? maybe, average people will suggest to buying from coinbase,localbitcoin and another but I don't know for certainly the fees on that site, maybe visit and reading their faq is better.
7460  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: August 13, 2016, 03:24:43 AM
bitcoin wallet is the best in my opinion, banks are around for a really long time right now and i dont think it is that good of a thing, in my opinion it will be changed
well more or less you are right, though if you hold your bitcoins in an online wallet you might be not able to save your bitcoins then it would be better to use bank
money in the bank is very safe no risk, but I think both are very important. in fact I think everyone here using both.
for me both are the same. but to be honest, I was quite calm when I save my money in the bank, compared in bitcoin wallet.
Both of them is always useful for everyone in here, okay but don't be a naive person, because I believe is there are a people is saying a bitcoin is better than a bank, the bank is very bad and another like that and in behind their selves is also using the bank in their live. And that's is very hypocrite.
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