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7521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: September 12, 2013, 01:01:54 AM
New round!

Round 28 goes to 109,300.  Correct?

You got it!
7522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: September 11, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
Anyone writing on Devtome that has an interest in ANY part of history (from the death of Jesus until now), if you write some history for Devtome, we will eventually edit it and add it to our book (if you want), and you will get paid for however many pages are yours compared to the entire book (for the rest of your life, as people buy it you will get that share).

Here's the book so far, it JUST started, so you wouldn't even be coming in late:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=ancient_history_by_finshaggy_aka_hannibalimhotep

I'm covering the world before Jesus died. If anyone wants to add Jesus, that's fine too, we could always use multiple perspectives (mine is going to be non-christian, but very studied as I have read the Bible and will be reading tons more Bible related stuff after I get done with Carthage)

If I edit it for clarity and grammar, would I be able to post it in collated, or what?

I don't think you can post it in collated as that would be double-dipping (the one writing would be counted twice).

Hmm...
Would it be possible to add multiple contributors to an article then, or add a section such as "edited" which is weighted at 0.1 or something?

Like so:
==Edited== (weighted 0.1)
[[:Example]]
==Collated== (weighted 0.3) <--Collated work should be worth more!  Smiley
[[:Example]]
==Original== (weighted 1)
[[:Example]]

The way it was explained to me is that it essentially uses the honor system. If you help them with their article, they should help you by paying out some of the share value.
7523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: September 11, 2013, 09:47:32 PM
Anyone writing on Devtome that has an interest in ANY part of history (from the death of Jesus until now), if you write some history for Devtome, we will eventually edit it and add it to our book (if you want), and you will get paid for however many pages are yours compared to the entire book (for the rest of your life, as people buy it you will get that share).

Here's the book so far, it JUST started, so you wouldn't even be coming in late:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=ancient_history_by_finshaggy_aka_hannibalimhotep

I'm covering the world before Jesus died. If anyone wants to add Jesus, that's fine too, we could always use multiple perspectives (mine is going to be non-christian, but very studied as I have read the Bible and will be reading tons more Bible related stuff after I get done with Carthage)

If I edit it for clarity and grammar, would I be able to post it in collated, or what?

I don't think you can post it in collated as that would be double-dipping (the one writing would be counted twice).
7524  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] CasinoBitco.in (CBTC) IPO Official Thread on: September 11, 2013, 07:16:58 PM
You "investors" are valuing this company at nearly $2,000,000, man I should start an IPO and get free money like this. TWO MILLION dollars. For a site with $10,000 of profit over 3-4 months. The dividends on 1 BTC will be roughly 5-7% yearly at 0.0002 a share from my calculations. To be at .0005 is even more rediculous.



Where are you getting the 2 million dollar amount from? I see the market cap is 165k right now..

Maybe my math is wrong.. And i don't own any. But if they continue with their most recent week's reported revenue the stock is currently 100% undervalued. (market cap <200k, projected revenue using most recent week >400k)

If you consider the reported growth then it's way beyond undervalued. Most securities are valued on their revenue as opposed to profit are they not? Reason being the revenue is more of a consideration when looking at a sale. At least for legitimate businesses that deal with tax.

I'm not saying you are wrong. I am seriously interested. What am i missing? Obviously they are more shares on the table. Personally i am leery of investing into any of these bitcoin related listings.

Are the owners/operators of CasinoBitco in this thread?



That market cap is based on the stocks, which only account for 10%. The price has also dropped almost 50% since he said that. So take 165 * 1.5 (just say 200k for fun) and that is 10% of the company. Multiply that by 10 to get the valuation.



10% of the current actual float? Or the projected offerings?

Current actual float (3 million * last sale price = current valuation on Havelock). There are 30 million shares total though.
7525  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] CasinoBitco.in (CBTC) IPO Official Thread on: September 11, 2013, 06:58:14 PM
You "investors" are valuing this company at nearly $2,000,000, man I should start an IPO and get free money like this. TWO MILLION dollars. For a site with $10,000 of profit over 3-4 months. The dividends on 1 BTC will be roughly 5-7% yearly at 0.0002 a share from my calculations. To be at .0005 is even more rediculous.



Where are you getting the 2 million dollar amount from? I see the market cap is 165k right now..

Maybe my math is wrong.. And i don't own any. But if they continue with their most recent week's reported revenue the stock is currently 100% undervalued. (market cap <200k, projected revenue using most recent week >400k)

If you consider the reported growth then it's way beyond undervalued. Most securities are valued on their revenue as opposed to profit are they not? Reason being the revenue is more of a consideration when looking at a sale. At least for legitimate businesses that deal with tax.

I'm not saying you are wrong. I am seriously interested. What am i missing? Obviously they are more shares on the table. Personally i am leery of investing into any of these bitcoin related listings.

Are the owners/operators of CasinoBitco in this thread?



That market cap is based on the stocks, which only account for 10%. The price has also dropped almost 50% since he said that. So take 165 * 1.5 (just say 200k for fun) and that is 10% of the company. Multiply that by 10 to get the valuation.
7526  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] CasinoBitco.in (CBTC) IPO Official Thread on: September 11, 2013, 05:51:05 PM
The price is crashing, Sad. Down from almost 0.0006 to 0.0004 so far.
7527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: September 11, 2013, 03:53:23 PM
Would anyone like to join in the creation of a history book???

I am covering BC history, and will cover some of the crusades. But if anyone wants to do Pre-History, or AD history... It's WIDE open, and I plan on publishing, so you would get your name on the front for free, plus whatever portion of the book you write as payment. I do want final edit though, because I want this book to be something that interests kids. I want it to be a history book that kids ASK for, so I don't want someone just filling pages with boring facts, just gloss over the boring stuff and maybe put an interesting picture of it. They can get boring from the teachers in school.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291631.0

I would be willing to do all of the editing and proofreading in return for a share of all income from the writing (both in Devcoins from Devtome and in whatever sales occur). I went through your current posting on Devtome and it has a lot of work needed before it can be a viable source for teaching.

I'll offer up the same deal to anyone else that is interested as well!

I'm gonna be doing the editing and proof reading, I'm just looking for people that want to write about history.
What you are reading is a rough draft, and even that is in its early stages.

I just realized, maybe this doesn't make complete sense, so I'll explain. The rough draft is so far a summary of 3 books, eventually it will be a summary of 200 books. So it's just a work in progress right now, not even a complete rough draft. Even the longest section of the book (Hannibal) is going to be a small section compared to the section about his nation (Carthage). And I haven't even started talking about his nation yet.

It's fine. I was just finding one grammatical and spelling error after another in it so I figured I'd offer up my services.

Best of luck with the project!
7528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: September 11, 2013, 01:59:30 PM
Would anyone like to join in the creation of a history book???

I am covering BC history, and will cover some of the crusades. But if anyone wants to do Pre-History, or AD history... It's WIDE open, and I plan on publishing, so you would get your name on the front for free, plus whatever portion of the book you write as payment. I do want final edit though, because I want this book to be something that interests kids. I want it to be a history book that kids ASK for, so I don't want someone just filling pages with boring facts, just gloss over the boring stuff and maybe put an interesting picture of it. They can get boring from the teachers in school.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291631.0

I would be willing to do all of the editing and proofreading in return for a share of all income from the writing (both in Devcoins from Devtome and in whatever sales occur). I went through your current posting on Devtome and it has a lot of work needed before it can be a viable source for teaching.

I'll offer up the same deal to anyone else that is interested as well!
7529  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] CasinoBitco.in (CBTC) IPO Official Thread on: September 10, 2013, 04:19:27 PM
I love how this email was sent 4 minutes AFTER the IPO was sold out, :p

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A new public offering is NOW AVAILABLE for CasinoBitco.in (CBTC)
Total Units: 3000000
Maximum Units Per User: 500000
Price: 0.00018000BTC/unit
7530  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] CasinoBitco.in (CBTC) IPO Official Thread on: September 10, 2013, 04:02:59 PM
Whoops,
I think the IPO just crashed the Havelock Investment IPO page Sad

Yeah, it worried me. Luckily my order went through, I got the email and then BAM, crash. I was worried though because my order was "processing" (contacting the server) for over 45s before it finally finished.
7531  Economy / Services / Re: [ANN] Writing, Editing and Proofreading Services! on: September 10, 2013, 02:25:59 PM
Had him write me some articles, did a really good job with thorough research!

Thanks for the review!

Also...

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7532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: September 10, 2013, 12:48:11 PM
In case some of our authors don't follow the Project Development part of these forums, I thought I'd bring this to their attention:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290503.0

-MarkM-


Yeah, I saw that elsewhere too. The guy is offering $3 or so for 600+ words and light research. That's so ridiculously low I wouldn't even consider it.
7533  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: BP Pharmaceuticals Investment Venture on: September 10, 2013, 02:54:54 AM
Usually when we do this, we need to know how much you want. This seems more like a scam than a true opportunity at this point. That or you've done none of the research and are simply claiming that because one company makes a billion a year means you can too.


Check out my other post ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291347.msg3118919#msg3118919 )

What business experience do you have? Are you going to be getting FDA approval?

I have read many books on business startups and some basic knowledge on how to start small. All I want to do right now is get my product out there, and the BTCs I am asking for is what I need to do it. After my product is out there, I plan on bringing someone in with more experience to manage the company. And no, I am not seeking FDA approval... This is an OTC product therefore FDA approval is not needed. I will also add that about 99% of "dietary/energy supplements" have not been approved by the FDA.

In case anyone else is following, K89 is right. This is taken from the FDA website:

"Generally, manufacturers do not need to register their products with FDA or get FDA approval before producing or selling dietary supplements.* Manufacturers must make sure that product label information is truthful and not misleading."

What's your marketing strategy?
7534  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: BP Pharmaceuticals Investment Venture on: September 10, 2013, 02:47:16 AM
Usually when we do this, we need to know how much you want. This seems more like a scam than a true opportunity at this point. That or you've done none of the research and are simply claiming that because one company makes a billion a year means you can too.


Check out my other post ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291347.msg3118919#msg3118919 )

What business experience do you have? Are you going to be getting FDA approval?
7535  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: BP Pharmaceuticals Investment Venture on: September 10, 2013, 02:37:21 AM
Usually when we do this, we need to know how much you want. This seems more like a scam than a true opportunity at this point. That or you've done none of the research and are simply claiming that because one company makes a billion a year means you can too.
7536  Economy / Services / Re: We are hiring – Chief Editor and Chief Salesperson on: September 10, 2013, 02:32:46 AM
Why not Coinality?

https://coinality.com

Nice site but sadly people are way underpaying for the work I can do, so at least for now it has no use for me.

Hopefully at some point jobs open up that aren't way below the going rate, :p.
7537  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] CasinoBitco.in (CBTC) IPO Official Thread on: September 09, 2013, 11:42:39 AM
The question below is posted by ScatterShot in the Newbies section.

I don't have a problem with this clause in and of itself, especially since the issuer has been above board with its inclusion in the prospectus. But there's really no way that any "sophisticated investor" (as defined by the SEC) being approached through a brokered or unbrokered private placement would touch this without having the clause severed from the prospectus, or reducing the implied P/E multiple by at least an order of magnitude, making the PPS about BTC 0.000018/share.

With this clause, IPO investors will still bear the full advertised high risk, but might not reap the associated high reward.

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In regards to the above statement I have been dealing with a lot of the same issues, but we are not dealing with "sophisticated investors" imo, in Bitcoin Land.  This is the majority of the issues, and my statement is not directed at Casinobitco.in directly but the 'securities' as a whole. This is why it is so hard to guage these early bitcoin companies.  

For Example
There is a security on Bitfunder that backs Rental property in the midwest US, it has tripled since IPO and even with the increase of $40-60 per bitcoin has not decreased really in share price.  A true bitcoin stock involved in US dollars would have decreased in bitcoin/share price.  Thus my belief we are not dealing with "sophisticated investors" - Mainly younger miner, gamers and such are still the majority of bitcoin users, who are trying to earn more.

IMO Bitcoin securities as a whole has became the new "dice" game for some Bitcoiners, as the chances of doubling up are good while going to 0 is very low.  And I believe is creating a bubble in these markets.

Honestly my valuation of Casinobitco.in is in between theirs and yours, but I see great upside in their company and the fact its a bitcoin stock and see "investors" trying to gain more bitcoins by using ownership in it.




This should be obvious based on how many people argue that PMB's (some of which are already IMPOSSIBLE to earn a full ROI on) are a good investment. You can sit there throwing math at them all day and their response is always along the lines of "I get paid daily or weekly and I can sell at any time, so it's profitable." It's a little depressing, really, and some of the IPO's are taking advantage of that. One of them was going for at least 5x its true valuation and promised (through a private offer) that I'd make a profit investing because people are going to be dumb enough to overvalue it as well and I could make a quick exit for at least 2x the investment amount as soon as the IPO hit. I didn't take them up on that offer, but there's been others run the same way as well. People are taking advantage of those stupid enough to invest in something when they have no business investing in the first place. Sure, some of them might turn a profit, but this isn't really investing, it's flat out gambling. I can go to a casino and figure out whether I'll win or lose a lot faster than dealing with IPO's here.

With that said, I think CBTC has a decent chance of survival. I'm also against their clause where they can buy back at the current price (meaning if they hit the big news, they could do a buyback right after they find out, taking all the increased profit and earnings). It'd also be possible to manipulate pricing so that stock price drops before something major happens -> they buy back -> they get even more benefits. The situation all caters towards Casinobitco.in, and that's a bit of a worry. When looking for investors, our security matters as well.

And they are going to be releasing the data from the 5th up through today as well, so we can see what the past 3-4 days have been like prior to the IPO, for any wondering!
7538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: September 08, 2013, 07:43:12 AM
I posted something on this earlier today, not response, but am a bit concerned. Been a long time user of this pool and built tools to support it. Today has been a concern to me and need help understanding the why or may opt to jump ship if I can't explain it. I am running 4 MH/s of hashing power. All day pulling in about 420 shares an hour consistently with low rejects. Very low. Like 8 or so right now and not far off from that all day except a couple times. Around 3:30pm CST I was at .061 BTC with a bit over .025 BTC immature and .01ish unexchanged. It's now 9:15PM CST and at .068 BTC and around the same level of immature and unexchanged as 3:30. You can't tell me that for almost 6 hours I got .007 BTC and no, there isn't a bunch sitting in immature. Any explanation what's going on?

I think we were mining LTC then, so it may be the case that we just didn't get many blocks during that time. I'm not really sure.

Proxy the pool into wemineltc and wemineftc (for LTC/FTC) to reduce variance.
7539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: September 07, 2013, 07:48:55 PM
I have two rigs, should I use the same BTC payout address as my user name for both rigs or should I creates separate addresses for each rig? Two workers or the same worker for both rigs?  Does this make any difference?

Doesn't matter, Smiley. Running two separate addresses lets you separate your stats though so you can keep up with when problems are arising.
7540  Economy / Services / Re: Website Preview: BITADS.NET. Now Pay-Per-Day! on: September 07, 2013, 07:15:32 PM
I was doing some load time optimisations and had to restart the mysql server.  It was down for about 2-3 minutes and this must of been  when you were trying.

Let me know how you go now. Load times for ads are much faster now too
I can confirm. It loads a lot faster.

That it does! The load time for the ad is now ~1.18s. Your load time (for your entire site, that was 15s earlier) is down to under 5s. This is a massive difference.
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