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7521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 19, 2016, 05:36:23 AM
My biggest/worst mistake Ive ever done In gambling is , I accidentally  pick all in and without knowing it I triggered roll.
All of my funds where gone because I hit lose. I lost almost 1 bitcoin because of that. I am very angry and sad that time because I lost much bitcoins on that day.
You must be careful the next time dude, you just have to let go of it as maybe you are not just lucky that time when you pound the all in. It's frustrating when you are working slowly to reach a good amount and just suddenly mistakes happen. I am sure what you lose will be recovered if you will continue to gamble and learn from your mistakes.
7522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 19, 2016, 05:33:08 AM
If you're going to invest in a legit company then it is way more better than trying your luck in some gambling sites but if you are thinking about investing in some HYIP or PONZI scheme sites then I would prefer gambling cause most of those sites are scams unlike in gambling you will decide how would you play for your money

 I haven't seen any investment sites that are legit til the end, most of them just have  a good start and ends up robbing you. While in gambling you are not sure about what will happen to your money, and your future profit depends on your luck too much.
Actually both of them are making you believe that you will get more money with them, it's like sugar coating a lie and making it sound as if they really like you to earn where in fact what they want is for you to try them so they could earn from you.

If you are looking for a legit investment, better go with opening a business, be a merchant, sell something that you know very well and using them most of the time then by that, I am sure if you won't profit big, for sure you will benefit from it since you are also using your own merchandise.

Investments mean not only investing on any sites but you can invest your money in gold, real estate, in some good company shares, etc., All these will have some risks, but not all of them will scam or rob you. Only some untrusted online investment schemes will scam people. I feel investing is much better but one need to find a good investment product to get profit.
Well, actually, most of the online investment schemes are scammers. There are anything call "real investment" online. Putting your money into those online schemes can be considered as a way to destroy your money. HYIP are based on Ponzi scheme which takes money from the latest person to pay for the previous person and they will soon turn into a real scammer when they find that they have collected enough money.
Therefore we need to mature, if possible we can learn from the experience of others and not necessarily we have to embrace the lose. Sure that there are a lot of investment online but there are a lot of scams as well, so as a wise investor, a careful research should be done first before jumping into a certain investment.
7523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 17, 2016, 05:52:50 AM
Well, i dont really believe in fortune tellers, i tried to let a fortune teller tell my fortune about my studies. Well, it sounds great, because the fortune teller said that i just need to continue what i am doing so i just follow the fortune teller's advice. Though i followed the advice of the fortune teller, i dont really have a good grades, i didnt eve pass one of my subjects and it is really sad. Dont trust what they say about your future and what might happen to you, because at the end of the day, your success is your responsibility.

I don't know if we should denigrate all fortune tellers, because one said something to you that didn't happen. There are many charlatans on this area, but I don't say all of them are lying, I keep my mind open to possible facts and events that may really exit. However, when we are talking about gambling, I don't think legit fortune tellers will predict results.

They should help to prevent accidents, tragedies and help people this way, not involving financial methods to become rich, etc.

Its not that im trying to tell you guys to hate fortune tellers, but what i am trying to say is, we people hold our future. We must not base it on what a fortune teller said. I have also thought that i must take it as a warning or a tip for what will happen to me. And whatever they might say, you can still change it because it is your future, not theirs.
In the first place, why would you believe in fortune teller, you are just wasting your time and effort of following what he might say. That is not true as no one can foresee the future, we are predicting the future, maybe we are too affected with the movies we see and we are not being realistic anymore. And maybe, some gamblers would mention to have a time machine just to win in gambling.
7524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 17, 2016, 05:41:38 AM
Bulls are bullshit today, they have no balls and they can't win against the Bucks at home. it's there chance to get revenge but unfortunately it's the same outcome yesterday, they are fully dominated by the Bucks. Seriously, they need defense and offense to click together, poor bulls only shooting 30% at home. Maybe it's time to change the coach, what do you think guys?
Well its the coaching team should adjust if the players is not working or playing well i think its time for them to check the game play and why those stars are not in good shape, its really dissapointing thinking that they can win at home but he outcome went to the other side luckily wizard wins and cover my small loss for chicago so good betting in live games.
I can't believe with the star players in Chicago they cannot beat the bucks, they beaten good teams like the Spurs but this one, it's two in a row. Clearly, there's a problem within the system and they need to reunite, it's too early to tell but they need to mature more for them to reach the playoffs and possibly to match up against Lebron.
7525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what position size for martingale? on: December 16, 2016, 05:30:31 AM
I use BTC0.001 as my starting amount in a 5 streak martingale in dice, if that amount will reach to BTC0.01 then stop or if my whole bankroll loses whichever comes first. That is just my way in dice games but in sports betting I do flat betting, with a fix amount and a bigger bets, normally my minimum bet is BTC0.01.
7526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: December 16, 2016, 05:12:29 AM
I have a target amount in gambling and when I hit that target I will definitely quit for good, I will use that amount to build the business that I plan because I do not want to lose that again, I can say then if God will provide me that situation to happen that I am successful in gambling.

I am willing to wait for my luck so I constantly gamble now.
7527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice To Earn Or For Fun? on: December 16, 2016, 03:54:04 AM
i start 0.001 and win 0.2btc in one day  you what you say
What do I say? You got lucky, be happy about it, enjoy it and think what do you want to do with that money, a good option is t learn about trading and use that money to start your trading carrer.

Very lucky guy and winning 200% with your gambling capital. And you sure having a lot of fun in dicing because the more you will get profit, that will make yourself happy and at the same time you are having fun. You also love what you are doing, so while there is a chance of luck with you, you should keep on dicing.
No, it's not 200% but 20,000%, it's from BTC0.001 to BTC0.2 which means this guy was extremely lucky and he is like winning a lottery with the percentage of winning he hits. I hope, my luck will also come, if not this year maybe early next year, betting a small amount is always manageable as when you lose you can still play for tomorrow.
7528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 16, 2016, 03:35:22 AM
Gambling is poverty, illness, cancer, crime, time-consuming in my mind. I know gambling is bad but i can not stop getting addicted to it. It have stolen many bitcoins from me but I always think that i can win back those amount Sad poor me
Stop gambling, no matter what it takes, stop it right now because gambling right now is not only separating you from your money, it seems I also causing you to have a bleak outlook in life, and that is even worst than losing your money.

What a terrible description of gambling in your mind and you should stop already if you are keep on gambling with that mindset and it seems that gambling is not contributing good to your life. Because imo, gambling is a way to relieve our stress and gives us enjoyment for our money to spent, especially those people who doesn't have time to go outside for their leisure.
His definition is purely base on his experience and that's all negative, it does not apply to everyone because I still believe that there are still more people who are enjoying gambling and they are treating it as an entertainment which resulted to not losing their money like the others who are irresponsible in gambling.
7529  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 15, 2016, 01:34:08 PM
I don't know how it's possible to get money without any moves. So probably I can't advice something correctly to you. But that was interesting to me to read advices of other users, but in any case every way for steady income asks some moves to it worked.

It is possible even you are not going to move or do some efforts but you need one important thing to that and that is big money for capitalization of your investment. Here in my country, there are a lot of rich people who are not working instead they are letting their money work for them by simply depositing their money in the banks in time deposit contract.

It would be informative to learn how you found out that a lot of rich people in your country really use time deposits as a source of their income. This is what people do when they are not very rich, just have some spare money. If you are wealthy, there are numerous alternatives that would give you more returns than a bank deposit could potentially offer.
For rich people definitely they are not rich because of deposits in bank. They are rich because they have their business or investment and what I know is that they only put their money in banks for safe keeping since bank has an insurance and for convenience also.
7530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 15, 2016, 01:19:54 PM
There is maximum people gamble fro profit and some people gamble for fun and and many times i also trying to get profit from gambling but i lost my bitcoin in gambling and now i forgot gambling and now i am getting profit from bitcoin trading.

That's why now every time I gamble I don't think about profit, as long as I place my bets I just want to let it happen and the game will decide whether I am worth to win or not. Because most of the time, I'm betting with sports. So I just think that every time I bet, I am supporting those teams and players that I put my money.
It should be done to avoid being frustrated in gambling, we have to play for fun otherwise we will experience loneliness because of gambling. It's a fun game so we must stay with it and in addition, we only gamble when we can afford to do it and basically not all people are entitled to gamble, knowing our financial capability is best.

Yes that's true, it is a recommended thing to gamble for fun only so that you will not get frustrated when you are aiming to gamble for profit and afterwards you will lose. Better to enjoy the money that you are using in gambling, so that you don't have any regret if you will lose, because you enjoyed the money that you have gambled.
The problem is we cannot all gamble for fun, there are still gamblers who sees it as an opportunity to make quick money due to the process is very easy and fast and they do not consider their chances in the game. If it's for fun then well and good but if for profit, I guess it's a different story and a hard way to be successful.
7531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: December 15, 2016, 01:11:00 PM
For me, gambling can be considered a high risk investment because you will never know when it would stop from running or operations. Investing in gambling sites is a long term one, it needs a big capital if you want a big profit too of course.

When it comes to investing, to gain a lot, you always have to invest a lot. That makes main difference with gambling. In gambling or the lottery, you can always hit the jackpot and win a lot with little bet. That is what attracts people.

I don't know if you've noticed, but there is one more interesting difference:
When we talk about investment we use word "earn", but when we think about gambling we use word "win" Wink
That means with investing it's profitable but when in gambling only if you win, but most of the time we loses because we do not have the edge. The two is really different and we cannot have it with one meaning, we invest to earn and do gambling to win but if not it's fine as long as we have fun.

Since it's a high risk investment, we should consider the amount of money we put to be our possible loses due to low chances.
7532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: December 14, 2016, 06:12:16 AM
Let me get this straight gambling is not a investment. Gambling is for fun and you shouldn't consider it as a investment. There are many better places to invest your money.

Agree with this. If gambling was an investment, it would be a BAD investment as you have a negative edge ( the house always wins ). You can get lucky in the short term but it should be treated as a form of entertainment and not an investment as you will usually lose in the long run.
For losers like you and like us it's a bad investment but for smart people it's an investment, however we need to set up a good capital to consider it as an investment and that is by putting our own casino, I know most of us cannot finance this kind of investment so with desperation we we play to beat them but since they have all the edge we failed in the end. Negative investment, you are right..
7533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: December 14, 2016, 06:03:50 AM
I think bitcoin is really the future of online gambling its easy to send and easy to receive using this cryptos but I think its also a bad thing cause some kids can even use it and get addicted to it I mean we don't even know how old this gambler's really are

Yeah, that can be one downside of online gambling in general. Though I think its still not too easy for someone who is younger to transfer fiat into bitcoin for use in gambling. But they can still start to get addicted at a young age which probably isn't a good thing.
That could be a reality but you cannot blame bitcoin for that and even gambling sites, they are operating for profit and they will welcome players who play as long as it has a money to play. For minors, it's already the responsibility of the parents so they must strictly monitor the activity of their kids.
7534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 14, 2016, 03:53:32 AM
I guess it's almost the same comparing the two. In online gambling, you are just not physically there. The possibilities of risk are less compared when you're in a casino. No people would be staring at you, but there are also instances of hacking when you've exposed yourself with your money. I would prefer online still.

If i am to talk about safety, i would actually choose to play in real world casino because i got to control the chips and the physical counter to exchange for cash and chips are always there. So it wont be a day that i have tons of chips and the next day i woke up to find that the casino is no longer there and i end up with useless chips. This is true for online casino whereby a lot of these casino can disappear overnight and you have lost everything.
yes the real world casino will never get dissapeared untraceable, they will always there no matter what as most real casino always registered under real name owner so you can track them in case they are run out or terminated.

while online casino always running anonymously, especially Bitcoin gambling sites, you will always feel insecure.
The real casinos are not a scam, and we will get our winnings immediately without any issues. But in online gambling, some sites will cheat us and sometimes it will take too long to withdraw our winning. The real casino it is too expensive because we must play some coins over there and if we lose that money, the casinos will give some extra coins to play. This type of facilities is not there in online gambling.But still, The online gambling is good, because we can play whenever we want. And if we don't have money we have a chance to play free games.
They are doing it for business so they will not scam, the fact that they are earning a good profit regularly they will not sacrifice their reputation to lose their valued clients, if we can notice they are making promotions and that is to attract more clients and more investors if they have the investing program.
7535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: December 14, 2016, 03:44:04 AM
I have a hobby of gambling for fun. when I get rich from gambling, I would still be playing it, although it can make me run out of money. Well, to be rich, will make life easier. but, I felt it would be boring, so with gambling, it would probably be more meaningful.
it is true , most rich people never think to earn money in gambling.

they gamble to fill out their boring time, and once they feel it is enough to lost on certain amount they will stop playing and just walk away , not like us who always keep chasing the lost with very limited bankroll , in the end we got busted and have nothing to bet anymore.

Its not just fulfilling boring time, gambling makes our brains work on specific way. If someone like to gamble he will do that all his life, like I will do that all my life. If anyone of us get rich, it will be just more interesting gambling, we will rise bets a lot, and then the game looks different.
i don't know exactly what will i do if i were rich, i just can i magine about it. as i gamble not often nowadays, i can think that i will keep gambling even i have money already , as i will make gambling a way to get an exclusive entertainment.

gambling can be a good entertainment if you have gamble for years and have experienced everything there.
I think you will not work anymore and you will just gambling everyday, it's not a problem because you are rich and you have a lot of money to lose. Doing it will make you more happy but without a challenge like feeling upset when you lose will make you lost your interest in gambling. That's my prediction because everything in life is all about challenges, we feel stronger once we surpass challenges.
7536  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 13, 2016, 02:38:28 AM
the best way to fixed income is to find a job. in the business world I guess there is no such thing as a fixed income. you only get the income is not stable. Well, you may get a lot today, but we do not know with earnings tomorrow, whether income will increase, decrease, or even none at all.

Yes it is the best thing to do, whether it is online or in real life. This will give you steady income that will suffice your needs. And if you are that wealthy enough then you don't have to be employed to get steady income then you can just start your own business so that you are going to get some good profit whenever your business will be stable.
We have to use our skill to start our own business, also need financial capital too. I agree that being employe is best way to get steady income but it will be good if we being the boss

You just need to manage your salary if you are employed and it is better if you are not going to stick with only one source. Because if you are going to be employed forever, you may get steady income but all of your salary will just go to the expenses you are dealing with monthly, bills and etc. So if you save some portion to your salary and use it as investment, for sure it may give you better income.
This statement is true and I truly support it, we cannot be rich relying on our job alone and we will not grow as a person. The fact that we are just working and we are guided by the mandate of the company, the moment we are not competitive anymore we loss our job and we will suffer. It's better to be futuristic and save now to build the future, with your savings you can use that to have your business someday.
7537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I bet you have never lost more than this !!! on: December 12, 2016, 06:42:46 AM
The amount he bet is base on his range, maybe we are just surprise because we cannot afford that big amount of money. What if this guy is not really risky that big amount of money instead, he is making an arbitrage betting, what do you think of the possibility?
7538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: December 12, 2016, 05:25:17 AM
Gambling vs Betting? It is confusing you know, betting is also gambling because in gambling you bet for you to win or lose. I just don't get what you are trying to point out in this post of yours. I think you mean, Gambling vs Betting on sports like prediction stuffs like that, is that it? but still it is also gambling as long as money is involve in return to earn money.
Actually I believe this is the topic for discussing about sports betting versus rest of gambling. Because I do see many people are not agreeing that sports betting is a type of gambling and they are almost treating the sports betting equivalent to trading. So, we just need a discussion to conclude the differences.
Yes actually I also think that games based gambling like sports, skill based based games and multiplayer games are known as gambling.

While pure luck based quick games where you neither can apply skill nor experience is known as betting. For me I love gambling but betting is my option when there is not many sports streaming on television.

The gambling means instant money doubler. And betting means you have to wait for some time to double your money. Both will need investment, but the playing process changes that's it. And I sports betting is depend on your skills but the gambling games depend on luck. End of the day both will give the same result it's loss.
your wrong gambling is not instant money doubler and you're risking your money to lose and for betting gambling is not a hyip that you would wait to get scammed. You dont need investment on gambling you just need a bankroll
Actually gambling is better than HYIP because in gambling you can enjoy yourself and you also have a good chance to win. Investing in HYIP is just like doing things to promote scam and that is not healthy in the community. We nee to be fair working here and we can only do that if we promote legitimate business so in the end bitcoin will be known for making positive things than for illegal activities.
7539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 12, 2016, 03:42:12 AM
Real gambling is more fun and also less more addictive because with online gambling its just so easy to spend money because its digital.
You maybe true but that's base on how we were able to manage ourselves in gambling. We cannot expect that people have the same likes and interest in gambling because some prefer it online so they can stop anytime they want. It's a different scenario when in real gambling as the emotion is very intense and you might see trouble with your opponent.
7540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: December 10, 2016, 07:06:45 AM
  I like bitcoins cause I have control of my money, and I don't need to pay for that. My bank takes some percent of my money every month.
   Easy to use is one of the advantages of bitcoin. I like bitcoin cause one day bitcoin can make me rich.
Well, when it comes to savings bitcoin can offer us great interest than in bank. Maybe I can call myself lucky because my deposits in banks receives interest in a quarterly basis but still not lucky enough because I understand that only the amount increase but the value does not grow if you know what I mean. It's the inflation thing.. Angry
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