OK, s obzirom da nemamo merit sourcera na našem dijelu foruma, a vidim da je ''demand'' jako velik jer mnogima treba za prelazak u višu kategoriju i sl. pozivam ''zainteresirane'' da mi se jave ovdje sa svojim prijedlogom postova (max. 3) za koje smatraju da kvalitetom zaslužuju merit. Za početak ću nagraditi meritom prvih 5 koji mi se jave sa postovima, koji po mojem mišljenju zaslužuju da budu nagrađeni. Iskreno, zbog obveza na poslu i puno drugih stvari s kojima se bavim, jednostavno nemam vremena da budem puno na forumu i da ''istražujem'' i tražim kvalitetne postove, koji zaslužuju merit. Ovako će mi biti lakše  Ne očekujte brzi odgovor, ali najbolje postove ću nagraditi. Pozivam i druge članove našeg, hrvatskog dijela foruma sa većim rankom i većim brojem raspoloživih merita za podijeliti, da se uključe u ovu akciju i da pomognemo onima koji nisu bili tako ''sretni'' kao mi jer su se kasnije uključili na ovaj forum i za razliku od nas ne mogu doči do višeg forum ranka bez merita. Osobno mi se čini da ova ideja merita nije baš uspjela i da je cijela ideja ''neuspješna'' (da budem blaži) a da je manipulacije sa meritima previše. S obzirom na to, mirne savjesti dajem ovu ponudu. |
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In the short time, I don't think so.
In the long term, it's possible.
Internet is still very new technology, just 26-27 years old.
Blockchain is just a few years old.
10, 20 or let's say 50 years are very long periods in the Internet ages, many new technologies will come, Internet will develop much more and become part of everyday life for the most people in the world.
So, it's good possibility that something else will replace bitcoin eventually.
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Value of bitcoin comes through supply and demand in the market. So, as long as you have people willing to buy bitcoin, your btc will have certain value. No demand, no value |
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Price of bitcoin depend on supply and demand. It's very simple, like in any other market. So, if you call bitcoin scam, than any other market in the world is scam for you |
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I was thinking about Modern Portfolio Theory and Bitcoin. I did a little research about it and will share my thoughts with you guys. As stated here ( https://www.turtletrader.com/modern-portfolio-theory/) Modern portfolio theory is standard practice in the smart investor’s portfolio. MPT places a non-correlated investment, a predefined percentage managed futures component, into a typical bond and equity portfolio. Risk is diversified away from the bond and equity positions into non-correlated managed futures positions. Higher portfolio returns with a reduction in risk is the end result.
As you can see in this chart, from the same website, 100% bonds is riskier than 80% bonds and 20% stocks.  A greate challenge to investors is to find non-correlated assets. This is where bitcoin comes in. Bitcoin is a new asset class with high returns, non-correlated to any other assets.Pension funds, hedge funds, and many other funds are probably willing to buy bitcoin, as it is non-correlated to any other assets. But they can't for legal reasons. But they can buy a Bitcoin ETF, or maybe a Bitcoin Future. Soon money will come, when those legal instruments are available for them. Remember, to lower the risk of your portfolio bitcoin should be something like 3% of your overall portfolio, maybe even less. This articles covers a little about the subject too. https://medium.com/@dustin_byington/why-owning-bitcoin-reduces-risk-8163309ec2f1Generally, it's always very good idea ''Don't put all the eggs in the same basket'' So, in my opinion, we should invest in different markets and financial instruments, not only crypto market. Thank you for your financial analysis. Bitcoin was a new asset class with high returns but bitcoin is not ''new'' any more and returns are not high as before. The market has stagnated for half a year. It's very difficult to predict future with crypto market. |
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Because people believe in bitcoin.
Some people want fast profit and they sell quickly, as soon as they can make some profit.
Others think long term and they ''hold'' their bitcoin waiting for much higher prices in the future.
Bitcoin any investors can afford to buy, so it's for everybody.
In regular markets usually only very ''big'' investors can trade.
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Bitcoin value come from supply and demand. It's very simple, like in any other market in the world. When demand is higher, price will go up and when more people sell, btc value will go down. Yes, bitcoin is risk but, in my opinion, not bigger risk than any other market in the world. Still, you have much bigger chance to earn here than in gambling or casino |
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It's very simple.
We are not in the Forex market, when investors must always have enough funds to cover losses.
In crypto market, you have loss only if you sell for lower price than you bought some crypto currency.
So, to ''hold'' is really wise strategy because any currency can raise in value at any moment.
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I also was joking about bitcoin when friend told me first time about bitcoin. Now, I just feel sorry that I waited to long to join and missed good chance to join earlier and to earn more. It was good school for me |
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It's very simple.
I first joined bitcoin.
Bitcoin still have much more users than other crypto currencies and bitcoin is still man entry point for the most people in the crypto world.
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I think that most journalists have no idea about bitcoin.
Their articles are mostly ''copy paste'' work from other sources without any real research.
Others probably have some hidden agenda.
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You have to understand that panic selling is part of any market in the world, not just bitcoin market.
People are always emotional, when they invest their money, and usually is very difficult for many investors to remain rational when some disorder occurs in the market, some bad news etc.
Because of that it's very difficult to predict market trends and mathematical models are usually not accurate.
Yes, panic selling is one of the main factor which contribute to bitcoin price going down (and every other market).
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We have only 2 possibilities Bitcoin will go up or down. Good thing with bitcoin is that many people bought bitcoin a year or two ago, so they are not afraid because of bitcoin price. They already earned very good profit. Only new investors are scared and don't know what to do. If btc price continue to go down, I think that only new investors will have loss. Market is always risk and it's nothing we can do about it. |
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bitcoin still has not reached its destination.
because of the purpose of bitcoin.
1. accepted by all countries in the world.
2. bitcoin is used as a transaction tool such as banknotes.
3. bitcoin also not yet reached the price ever reached in the previous year as at the end of December year 2017 yesterday .
Well, in my opinion -bitcoin can't become official and main currency in any country, only legal alternative (because no bank, no regulations and other legal reasons). - again, I don't think that financial institutions, banks etc. will use btc as transactions. - about price it's very difficult to predict anything, future will show us. |
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In my opinion, you should follow the law.
So, bitcoin is usually on other servers, outside of our countries.
So, if you have something outside of your country, nobody can sax that you break the law.
Your country law can be applied only in your country.
Also, if you don't cash out btc in your country, you didn't break law.
It's my understanding.
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Ma ne vrijedi ni prijavljivati ako nas ignoriraju. Donedavno sam imao 100% svega prijavljenoga što znači da je sve što sam prijavio smeće. Sada su počeli ignorirati prijave.
Rekao bih da je ovaj forum previše narastao, i da im je postalo nemoguće sve pratiti, pa su jednostavno ''digli ruke'' od određenih dijelova foruma namjenjenih manjim i za njih ''manje važnim'' zemljama pod local section, kao što je naš hrvatski forum, na žalost, te se posvetili onome što im je važno. Za ostalo ih očigledno više nije briga, niti imaju vremena. Na žalost, s time treba živjeti ili početi razmišljati o vlastitom, ''hrvatskom'' crypto forumu, gdje nećemo ovisiti o milosti i dobroj volji administratora. |
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-I think It is popular. many people accept and trade in Bitcoin because It is recognized and accepted as a currency by many.
-Bitcoin is decentralized and limited. This is a major factor for many Bitcoin users. Bitcoin is hard for governments to trace and tax
-Bitcoin acts like an equity investment. The market value of Bitcoins has had wild swings in value and even a market cap.
-Bitcoin is a social network. The Bitcoin "community" is active and acts like other online social networks.
-There are only 21 million bits so it has the same value as gold.
In short, supply and demand If there is no demand for something, there is no value. So, as long as there is demand for something, there will also be a certain value of it. |
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Similar to what Gandhi said
At first, they ignored the Bitcoin, then ridiculed him for "how a digital coin does not have a physical presence" to be a substitute for paper currency and a system called the Blockchain, an alternative not only to the banks but to the entire institutions, then they fought him and tried to cast suspicion in the ranks of those who pursued him To 20 thousand dollars in less than ten years from the way he described the bubble and the closing of the trading platforms and then enter the market and try to control it as it is now.
Now only victory ...
Bitcoin is really revolutionary product and have potential to change the world. Bitcoin gives everyone the chance to succeed and change their own life, become financially independent. Still, it is difficult to give long-term prediction, which will happen with bitcoin in the future. |
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Ma sve je to super zamišljeno kad bi kripto valute mogle spadati pod neki od naših zakona. Ali što ako sam ja sve što sam zaradio dobio preko airdropa? Istina, na taj način nisam dobio puno ali sam kasnije svojom sposobnošću trgovanja zaradio puno više i onda to pretvorio u fiat te prebacio na devizni račun. Airdrop se ne može smatrati drugim dohotkom jer nisam ništa radio da bi dobio te coine/tokene (kao što je slučaj kod rudarenja ili raznih signature, Facebook, Twitter i sličnih kampanja) tako da mi ne mogu lupiti porez na drugi dohodak. S druge strane, nemam nikakav "ulaz" novca (mislim na kupnju neke kripto valute za fiat) da bi tu zaradu prikazao kao kaptialnu dobit.
Bit će zanimljivo vidjeti kako će se Porezna postaviti prema airdropovima. Može se smatrati i donacijom, i dividendom, i drugim dohotkom - naime za drugi dohodak nije nužno da je riječ o tome da si nešto radio pa zaradio, to je kategorija u koju mogu utrpati sve što ne spada u nešto drugo. Kako bilo da bilo, neki dan sam pogledao svoju ETH adresu u ethploreru. Vidim neki VIN i neki IMT za koje nikad nisam čuo. Ako Porezna misli da znam kad sam to dobio, i da je realno očekivati da će ljudi pratiti tokene po svim svojim ETH adresama i prijavljivati dohodak... postići će da im nitko ništa ne prijavljuje da slučajno ne otkrije svoje ETH adrese i time ne plati ni porez na npr. rudarenje ili kapitalnu dobit koji bi inače htio platiti. Puno tu još ima nejasnoća i nedoumica, no situacija je puno bolja nego prije 4-5 godina kada sam ja prvi put prijavljivao porez na zaradu na Internetu (tada još ne od bitcoina). U poreznoj su se bili našli u čudu jer čak nisu imali ni posebnu kategoriju za internetsku zaradu, ni šifru u joopd šifrarniku, ništa... potpuna nepoznanica. Uopće nisu znali kako bi trebalo ispuniti joppd obrazac da bi to uopće prošlo kroz sustav e porezne i bilo prihvaćeno. Na kraju su mi rekli da uzmem šifru koja se koristi za autorski honorar, samo da prijava nekako prođe u sustavu. Sada već porezna daje prve služben upute o prijavi zarade na bitcoinu, crypto valutama i to je zaista ogroman napredak u odnosu na ono što sam ja morao prolaziti Da, mnoge stvari su još nedorečene ali i to će se s vremenom rješavati, kako sve više ljudi bude prijavljivalo zaradu po crypto valutama, i porezna neće imati izbora već da kroz vlastitu praksu dođe do opće prihvatljivog rješenja za sve. Bitno je da kada dođete u svoj lokalni ured porezne, svom poreznom referentu, ne odustajete i tražite pojašnjenja kako ispuniti joopd obrazac. Ako ne zna on, tražite da pita voditelja. Ako ne zna voditelj, tražite da pitaju dalje... Samo na taj način ćete prisiliti poreznu da pronađe rješenje i da to postane općeprihvaćeni standard, koji će sve primjenjivati. I ne zaboravite svaki puta, kada dobijete nešto službeno od porezne, to objaviti ovdje Tako ćete svima pomoći. Vrati se u poreznu odakle si i izaša. Moja je osobna stvar gdje ću ''ulaziti'' ili ''izlaziti'' i da li ću i za što prijavljivati porez, kao što si i ti slobodan da ne prijavljuješ porez i ne ideš u poreznu. Živimo u demokraciji i svatko je slobodan činiti i raditi što želi, u skladu sa svojom savješću i odgovornosti. Nema potrebe za vrijeđanjem. Ova je tema za one koji žele platiti porez i zanimaju ih informacije o tome. |
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