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761  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time is Now on: April 20, 2012, 11:07:55 PM
risk-on people. RISK-ON!
762  Economy / Speculation / Re: April 20th on: April 20, 2012, 11:04:17 PM
Before I start, I would like to clearly state that I know nothing about Economics.

Alright so with April 20th coming up (420), I assume business on the Silk Road is going to be a little more then usual. So I'd imagine that soon people are going to be buying up some BTC and get their 420 orders in. Just guessing here. So with that said, will this drive the value of the Bitcoin up/down in the coming weeks? I am a miner, so should I start saving up my bitcoins, and sell them in a few weeks? Or do you think 4/20/12 will even have an effect on the Bitcoin?

Turns out he was right. 4/20 ftw!
763  Economy / Speculation / Re: major breakout imminent! on: April 20, 2012, 09:10:45 PM
I dont have time to post a chart but...

Im expecting at least 40,000 Bitcoins bought in the next few hours.  Ill be buying some of them myself when we push against the $5.20 wall again.

Rally Time  Cool

Edit: How many rally threads can we fit on the front page?

Here comes the boom! $5.17 now

Sorry I was a day late guys.  My bad

 Cool

I'm counting roughly 30k. Suspiciously good call. (/adds SkRRJyTC to suspect list)
764  Economy / Speculation / Re: major breakout imminent! on: April 19, 2012, 07:44:33 PM
its looking rather bearish right now  Undecided

I'm more comfortable with a relatively slow and steady rise. Maybe the market has learned not to like strong breakouts since they tend to be followed by sharp corrections. For the time being, anyway...
765  Economy / Speculation / Re: Ask Wall breaks down THEIR ARE NO MORE BITCOINS TO BE SOLD on: April 18, 2012, 08:55:58 PM
$5.0 now bigger than $5.2.
766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin up. on: April 16, 2012, 04:38:08 AM
For all the harping of gold bugs about manipulation, I agree with cypherdoc that there's a good chance they'll eventually come around to bitcoin.

The smart ones maybe even before bitcoin is also being traded on COMEX  Cheesy
767  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Magic 8 Ball thread on: April 16, 2012, 04:21:33 AM
my magic 8 ball see this


Your magic 8-ball seems to have switched from "down" to "up".
768  Economy / Speculation / Re: major breakout imminent! on: April 15, 2012, 05:59:35 PM
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Sellers have been waiting to buy below $3.8 (and growing increasingly impatient), but I doubt that Mr M will be selling coins for cheaper than he paid (he is much more patient). Those who sold at the low end up buying higher - not the reverse.

+1 I'd really like to see that come into play. But we need a fairly serious volume build up for btc to kick into fullblown rally mode.

Right. So the question is whether there's already enough 'dry powder' to kick the volume up, or if there will be a sell-off first.
769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Heads-Up: Bank Fraud Alert on: April 15, 2012, 05:52:31 PM
They need to get accepted into the online push/bill pay system. Alot of banks are VERY tight on who they allow to use it.

For years, Paypal was using pull. Finally, only a few years ago they were allowed to use the better system

This just seems so back-ass-wards.  They should allow more businesses into the push system because it allows the banks to vet them.  Accessing the pull should be the more restrictive option! 


I ran into this problem last year. Talked to managers at several different branches (Chase) who kept insisting it was impossible for me to push ACH and that what I actually wanted to do was pay the fee for a domestic wire transfer. Turned out that I had to set up a business account, and pay an additional monthly fee for the ability to initiate ACH transactions.


Dwolla just needs to get rid of the "pull" ACH funding option.  This is the most insecure money transmission ever invented by the banks.  It's awful.  All I need is a printed check from any person, and i can pull money from their account.  No PIN, no security, nothing.  It should be dropped entirely.  "push" type ACH, initiated by logging in to your online bill-pay, is much more secure. 

I don't think this is true. You need the bank login/pw to confirm the Dwolla verification deposits. Anyway, eCheck fraud isn't the problem. Bitcoin exchanges are facing this type of online bank fraud (deposit verification + ACH pull) because the bank account log-ins that can do ACH push (like payroll accounts) are defrauded more directly through reloadable debit cards or money mules (http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/04/thieves-replacing-money-mules-with-prepaid-cards/).
770  Economy / Speculation / Re: major breakout imminent! on: April 15, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
I think the huge volume down on Feb 13-16 (300k BTC alone on one day) was the seller climax. Mr M bought most of those coins.

Sellers have been waiting to buy below $3.8 (and growing increasingly impatient), but I doubt that Mr M will be selling coins for cheaper than he paid (he is much more patient). Those who sold at the low end up buying higher - not the reverse.
771  Economy / Speculation / Re: A year from now (2013/04/15) on: April 15, 2012, 04:56:47 PM
double digits. prediction enshrined.
772  Economy / Speculation / Re: bullish divergence in Accumulation/Distribution on: April 15, 2012, 04:48:35 PM
obv sucks. it just adds/subtracts volume with no relation to the price spread for a given period.

I like OBV, it seems as good as any other indicator and has tracked bitcoin price pretty well in the daily chart above. Look at the all-time highs ($32 and $7) and the all-time lows ($2 and $4) - they are almost perfectly aligned at 2000 and 400, respectively. OBV isn't an oscillator, so its either been a fairly accurate cumulative measure of bitcoin money-flow, or that alignment was pure coincidence.

what would happen if, for a number of periods, the median price is only slightly lower than the median of the last period, but during which a large volume of BTC is traded? during periods of high volatility, this can easily happen. this large volume is assigned a negative value due to the slight drop in price, so the obv plummets even though the information in the price spread might contrarily indicate strong buying pressure.

This is exactly what happened in the correction from $7.2. That's why OBV is near the low at $2, but price is not.

In order for price to recede from $5 without the OBV plummeting to a new all-time low, bitcoin would have to trade downwards on very low volume.
773  Economy / Speculation / Re: bullish divergence in Accumulation/Distribution on: April 14, 2012, 06:26:41 PM
That is all fine, but to trigger the rally, there needs to be strong, and sustained buying volume

Ain't that a truism!

Technical charting works great on price. But when price is sideways, how can we quantitatively analyze volume?

Let's throw OBV in the mix.


774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Trading Bots on: April 13, 2012, 06:02:23 PM
Please help me find a bug in the code. (PHP) The calculation of the average rate for the last transaction (bot). He should ignore history, which more than 15 minutes. But the error - consider history. (sorry for the translation)

$curtime is set to 0 and never to the current time, so ($curtime - $a['date']) is negative and never > (60*15).

add:

$curtime = time();

775  Economy / Speculation / Re: bullish divergence in Accumulation/Distribution on: April 13, 2012, 05:33:39 PM
last one for now.

open to interpretation, but I see signs of an upward trend..

776  Economy / Speculation / Re: bullish divergence in Accumulation/Distribution on: April 13, 2012, 03:58:31 PM
Acc/Dist = ((Close – Low) – (High – Close)) / (High – Low) * Period's volume

dont forget this

yeah i notice that in practice, the ADL responds to the shape of the candles in a very predictable way. its slope is generally proportional to the distance from the median to the bounds in that when the upper bound is far away from the median (top wick is tall) it increases rapidly, and does the opposite when a 'bearish hammer' (lower wick is long) forms.

even though it is an abstraction from the price, however, it does seem to do a good job detecting trends in the noise. it's actually pretty intuitive if you understand the formula that myself quoted.

Thanks! I see what you're talking about now.. so ADL has been rising for the past weeks because we've been seeing a lot of longer-tailed hammer-style candles (like today's candle) - from sells dropped onto bids that refill.

Sells have slowed to a drip whilst the bids keep filling up. I have a hunch that sellers are tapped (could be wrong though).
777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Your Daily Slow Stochastic -holy grail indicator on: April 13, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
weak! Looks like the 'crossover' on Feb 20-22.
778  Economy / Speculation / Re: hehehe we got a wall on: April 13, 2012, 06:33:42 AM
Pretty much the "WallMaker" wanted to push the market in one direction or the other. When pushing up didn't yield results the WallMaker took it down and apparently added added a 6000BTC ask to contribute to the already massive wall leading up to 5. If he can't push it up, help push it down.

On second thought, I think Mr. M flashing the bid wall before switching to an ask might've been a signal that he's been accumulating below $5..

Remember when he flashed a big ask wall around the $2 bottom while he had the bid walls up?
779  Economy / Speculation / Re: hehehe we got a wall on: April 13, 2012, 06:04:28 AM
No, no, no. Hell no. Down?  Cry

lots of asks and yet it it seems nobody is selling.

I wonder where it'll go when those asks get removed?
780  Economy / Speculation / Re: bullish divergence in Accumulation/Distribution on: April 13, 2012, 04:36:50 AM
/facepalm

Its a little early for that. one of us will be disappointed yet.  Cool
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