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I don't think it's realistic idea.
For something like this we will need one world government, one central bank and one country.
Currency is an important part of every national sovereignty and also average people like idea to have own country, nationality, currency etc.
This is not an idea for our age.
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https://www.ccn.com/chinese-angel-investor-gathers-10000-bitcoins-during-bear-q1-2018/There was one Chinese investor who is now trending after he bought 10k bitcoin during the Q1 bear or during the bearish movement at the first quarter of the year. According to the article he was Cai Wensheng the founder of a selfie-app called Meitu which is very popular in China. This man is a good sign that bitcoin really is becoming more attractive to big enterpreneurs across the globe. I even heard that one family in Netherlands sold their house and bought bitcoin with all money. They are living now in the car with trailer. I guess that this investor just felt that bitcoin is good investment opportunity but I doubt that he is investing only in bitcoin or crypto market. |
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Slažem se više manje sa svime ovime napisanom u prethodnih 10ak postova. Ima puno istine u tome ali evo ja ću probati napisati nešto iz drukčije perspektive, kako bi se reklo "devil's advocate". Pravi problem foruma je nesnosna količina bezvrijednih ili vrlo malo vrijednih postova diljem cijelog foruma potaknutih signature kampanjama. Merit je tu vrlo kratko vrijeme i uveden je da se to proba smanjiti. Jedno od rješenja o kojem se raspravljalo je i potpuno ukidanje signature kampanja. Šta ne mislite da je ovako ipak bolje? Moguće je da će nakon nekog vremena sustav merita biti značajno promijenjen ili ukinut ako ne donese pomake. Sustav je daleko od savršenog ali hoću reći da je ipak koliko toliko dobro osmišljen i manipulacije/varanja s meritom nisu toliko štetne koliko bi bile u slučaju nekih drugih implementacija ili rješenja. Uvijek postoje ljudi koji će varati/iskorištavati sistem i protiv toga se je jako teško boriti. Ne kažem da su svi senior rangovi zaslužili tu poziciju, šta više ima ih hrpa koji su jednaki spameri ko i niži rangovi ako ne i veći. Ali stavite se u poziciju da ste bili tu na forumu na početku bitcoin revolucije. Ja bi osobno bio lud da u najvažnijoj rubrici foruma na prvoj stranici redovito gledam spam multi teme koje nemaju apsolutno nikakvu vrijednost nakon što se prvih par godina vodila kvalitetna rasprava (često vrlo tehničke prirode) između malog broja članova koji su se tako reći znali međusobno. Ne znam da li ste kada bili član nekog uspješnog foruma od prvog dana koji je kasnije postao žrtva svog uspjeha, ali ako jeste znate o čemu pričam. Kada budete imali više vremena nađite neku staru temu i pogledajte malo kako je tada izgledala rasprava. Ja bi se rado odrekao zarede od sig kampanja za mogućnost da budem dio takve zajednice. Druga stvar šta mi fali i dosta tehničkog znanja, pogotovo sa polja kriptografije. Sva sreća da imamo ovaj hrvatski podforum gdje je uz sve probleme opisane u temama gdje tražimo moderatora još uvijek puno lakše se snaći i čovjek može sa priličnom sigurnosti reći da nije ništa važno propustio. Merit je kao ideja dobar, ali ima par stvari koje su loše napravili:
1. dosta ljudi uopće ne kuže (čak i neki Hero memberi s kojima sam razgovarao) da postoji merit i smerit, tj misle
kad tebi daju jedan, da se njima jedan oduzima, pa su škrti iz tog razloga
2. sistem je nepravedan prema novim korisnicima jer moraju prolaziti kroz nešto što su stari dobili "besplatno",
plus što ovi koji su hero ili legendary i sudjeluju u bounty kampanjama, nove gledaju kao potencijalnu konkurenciju,
tj što više novih korisnika sa većim levelima, oni će dobiti manji bounty, a da stvar bude gora oni su najčešće
izabrani kao merit sourceri
3. sistem je turbo nepravedan prema onima koji su bili dan-dva ili post-dva od skoka na veći level jer su se
početni meriti dodjeljivali po razredima, a ne proporcionalno, pa je jednako dobio i neko ko je bio dva dana
od level-upa i neko kome je falilo 6 mjeseci
Točka 3 je ono što je meni osobno najviše smetalo kod implementacije iako me nije pogodilo ni blizu kao neke druge članove. Šta se tiče točke 2 to je život i to tako funkcionira na svim poljima. Uvijek onaj koji je prvi negdje ima prednost. Teško je napraviti pošteni sustav koji svima odgovara. Jako dobro pojašnjeno. I ja sam od početka imao osječaj da je merit sistem osmišljen kao odbrana od spama i velikog broja nekvalitetnih postova na forumu (najviše zbog raznoraznih signature kampanja) da bi se poboljšala kvaliteta pisanja i nagradili ''dobri'' posteri. Problem je naravno, ljudski faktor. U bilo čemu je moguća manipulacija, pa tako i u najbolje osmišljenom sistemu. S meritima se već počelo trgovati, i nisam siguran koliko je sama ideja ''zaživjela'' i koliko su prosječni korisnici navikli davati merite za kvalitetne postove. Ipak, ako se slažemo da forum treba poboljšati, posebno kvalitetu postova i smanjiti spam, a meriti nam se ne sviđaju, što je onda altenativa? Postoji li neki bolji način, koji bi postigao istu svrhu a bio bi pravedniji i bez mogućnosti manipulacije? |
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tako je. poslujemo kao i svaka obicna mjenjacnica ..samo sto iskljucivo mjenjamo kriptovalute
poslovnica u zg ce biti do kraja ovog mjeseca sigurno , a ova u rijeci ..nadamo se do kraja lipnja.
Super vijesti! Javite nam gdje će biti poslovnica i kada je otvaranje, da dođemo  Ako ćemo bez identifikacije moći kupovati ili prodavati do 15k, mislim da će to mnogima biti vrlo zanimljiva opcija. Uz dobar marketing, s obzirom na veliki broj mladih turista, stranaca, u Zagrebu, mislim da bi vam business mogao biti vrlo uspješan |
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To me it makes no sense to get into the bitcoin game to turn around and sell when its going up and every time i look i made $100. Everybody knows that if we keep buying the value goes up,we sell it drops....STOP selling!!!! i wanna be rich,if you dont wanna be rich then please go play somewhere cause its starting to irritate me that some simple minded people keep selling off my riches...To anybody that feels the need to respond to this post and say anything other then common sense,please refrain from doing so...JUST BUY,LETS GET RICH!!!!
STOP SELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think that you should first study about basic principles behind any market. Price depend on supply and demand only. People will buy if they believe that price will go up. People will sell if they believe that price will go down. It's simple like that. |
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Human life changed a lot in the last 20-30 years.
Internet is real blessing but also can be big disaster.
So many people lost fortune in different internet projects and programs, hoping to get rich overnight (without real work).
So, it's really good advice to have real job, live in the real world, have real life and use bitcoin as investment with potential for some profit.
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Your main investment is time and the ability to wait! Be patient and bitcoin will surely please you with good growth in the price!
You are right! We should just look the growth history of bitcoin prices. Bitcoin started with only a few cents value in 2009, increased to $250 a few years ago, and last year jumped to $ almost 20 000 and than failed back to $ 6000. From that level, bitcoin again jumped to almost $ 10 000 now. So, because of this btc history and continuous growth all the time, I really don't worry about bitcoin in the long term. We just have to be smart, wait, don't sell and be patient. |
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Spend a little bit of time on the Internet and sitting here on the forum I can write a brief instruction on Bitcoin
The starting price of bitcoin, set in 2010, was less than one cent. On November 29, 2017, he crossed the mark of $ 11,000. The rapid rise in prices for it can be a soap bubble. Or the financial community's recognition that so-called cybercurrencies, digital forms of money, are beginning to gain momentum. It's time to determine what a bitcoin is and why it has become so popular.
1. What is a bitcoin?
It is a form of money that is unique in that it can not be held in hand. Most stores do not recognize it. It is not released or supported by the government. By its principle, bitcoin and its analogues are a set of program protocols for creating digital assets and for tracking transactions in a way that complicates the forgery or reuse of these notes. Bitcoin has value only when its users recognize and use it.
2. Where did the bitcoin system come from?
The initial software was released in 2008 by a person or a group of people who use the nickname of Satoshi Nakamoto. Several attempts were made to uncover a real person or group under this name, but none of them succeeded. Internet games have long been using virtual currency. The key idea of the bitcoin is blockade - a publicly accessible, mostly anonymous online account that records bitcoin transactions.
3. How does it work?
Remember what happens when you make an online bank transfer. He checks if you need the money, calculates the amount from one place of a huge database on which the data of the accounts and their balances are stored, and counts them in another. You can see the result by going to your account, but the transaction is under control of the bank. You trust the bank to withdraw the required amount of money, and the bank, in turn, monitors that you will not be able to spend this money again. Blokchain is a database that performs these tracking functions, but without a bank or other central authority.
4. Who can create a cryptology (become a Miner)?
Everyone who has very high-speed computers, lots of electricity and a desire to solve puzzles. Transaction data in each data packet is encrypted by a formula that can be unlocked only by an incredible number of attempts and errors. The operators set up large-scale computing power for work and compete for those who first solve the cipher. If the maze's response is confirmed by others, the data is added to the chain of data blocks, and the maemer receives a newly created bitcoin.
5. How does the system prevent fraud?
Since each block contains data associated with the previous blocks, an attempt to spend the same bitcoin twice will mean the view of many links in the chain. In addition, by competing among themselves, the operators check each other's work.
6. Was the bitcoin used by drug traffickers?
So, when his initial goal was a certain anonymity. It has been used and continues to be used by sites that sell everything from weapons to drugs. In 2013, federal agents found and closed an anonymous e-commerce store with a turnover of $ 1.2 billion - Silk Road (Silk Road). However, soon his place was occupied by others. Joseph Stiglitz, winner of the Nobel Prize for Economics, recently said that bitcoin should be banned because it was designed to avoid regulation and "does not perform any socially useful function."
7. What has changed?
The bitcoin's reputation improved in part because of the fact that fewer large-scale thefts were recorded. And many technological and financial firms were interested in the blockade as an idea separate from the bitcoin.
8. What are the benefits of BlockChein?
Enthusiasts see it as a new way of doing business. Costs may be lower because there is no centralized agent that processes transactions tracking and charges. Banks and stock exchanges have invested heavily in the development of blockade technology, while retailers, such as Wolff, are experimenting with the use of blockers to ensure food safety. Central banks are even thinking about issuing official currency based on blockades. There were other forms of blockade, which often use their own cryptographic currencies to facilitate transactions. The most famous is Efirium, which is sometimes called the platform for so-called smart contracts.
9. What is the rise in the price of bitcoin?
New investors and expectations of other stakeholders, raised this year's price bitcoin by about 11 times. CME Group and other exchanges are planning to offer bitcoin futures contracts that can potentially expand the benefits of bitcoin. The fact that Bitcoin software guarantees its limited supply has given some investors fears about its loss. Coinbase bitcoin traffic has been overloaded two or three times on November 29, 2017, when new users were registered. New hedge funds are opened every week, targeting cryptology. Their number has already exceeded 100. Most of them invest part of their money in bitcoin.
10. Is this a bubble?
Maybe. Some people, especially James Damon, Chief Executive Officer of JPMorgan Chase, call bitcoin "fraud." However, its own bank holding is considering the possibility of providing customers with bitcoin futures. Billionaire Mike Novograts calls cryptology "the biggest bubble of our time," and at the same time launches a $ 500 million fund to invest in it.
Very good, short and clear explanation about bitcoin for the beginners or employed people who do not have too much time to read and explore. You really gave me inspiration with your post. I may even share it with my friends who don't know yet about bitcoin but don't have time for long research. |
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I think that common challenge for bitcoin user is how to report tax from bitcoin income.
In the most countries bitcoin is not recognized as money or financial asset
So, how to report tax is really very difficult question.
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Zašto jednostavno ne prodaješ BTC?
Ja sam kroz ovaj bear market više puta prodao pa kupovao na supportu. Recimo, prodam na 10.000 pa kupim na 9600. Taj support pukne pa ga opet prodam na 9400 i kupim na 9100. Support pukne, prodam na 8900, kupim na 8600.
Brojke su sad imaginarne, ne da mi se tražiti točne, ali analize i tu mogu pomoći. Meni je trenutno JEDINI cilj imati što više BTC-a, u altove ulažem samo da povećam BTC a bear market je također dobra prilika za to.
Slažem se s time što si rekao, nešto može naglo pasti bez nekakvog realnog objašnjenja, ali i tu mi je draže analizirati i pokušati nešto napraviti nego HODL pa šta bude.
Zašto misliš da ne prodajem? Diverzificirao sam svoj porfelj u više crypto valuta, ali zapravo to ne igra neku veliku ulogu, jer kada btc pada, sve crypto valute padaju. Jednostavno, za većinu novih igrača, btc je main entry point i kada btc pada, tada povuče i sve ostalo. A nemam toliko vremena da bih satima sjedio pred računalom ili mobom i stalno kupovao i prodavao valute, imam puno drugog posla i obveza da bih se mogao baviti s time. Odabrao sam svoj porfelj, hodlam, tu i tamo dodam nešto novo, i to je to. Ovdje sam na duže staze, i nije mi problem čekati. |
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Neki se tzv. analitičari hvale svojim grafovima i znanjem ali svi njihovi grafikoni i analize ne vrijede ništa kada se mase uspaniče i počnu rasprodavati bitcoin Zašto svi toliko pljuju po analizama? Analize su tu da pokušaju predvidjeti situaciju i da ponude plan kako reagirati bez obzira kamo tržište krene. Ja ne mogu razumjeti ljude koji trguju 'na blef' ili na osjećaj. Meni su analize spasile glavu. Ja nisam rekao da su analize potpuno beskorisne i da nikome ne mogu pomoći. Nekada ih i ja pogledam. Stvar je u tome da analize ''funkcioniraju'' i mogu dati približno dobre rezultate kada imamo ''normalne'' uvjete na tržištu, bez velikih i neočekivanih poremećaja. Čim se dogodi neka velika tzv. ''loša'' vijest tipa zatvaranja neke crypto burze, i onda još to mediji prenapušu, tada sva pravila logike i razuma prestaju, kreće masovna rasprodaja i stampedo, i tada nikakve analize više ne mogu pomoći, možda jedino neki dobar psiholog, stručnjak za psihologiju masa. Ukratko, kada je normalna situacija na tržištu, vjerujem da kvalitetniji analitičari mogu približno predvidjeti kretanja cijene, ali kada se ''normalnost'' izgubi i zavlada panika, tada prestanem gledati analize jer znam da mi neće pomoći. Umjesto toga, prestanem gledati btc cijenu neko vrijeme i bavim se drugim stvarima, dok ne vidim da se situacija ''smirila'' i da se sve vratilo u normalu, a da se bitcoin oporavlja. |
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Do you think we should pay a bitcoin tax? Bitcoin managers should also have strict rules to ensure the safety of users. Bitcoin also means that it is legitimate income and a valuable asset.
You should check law in your country. Every country have different laws and regulations. For example, in my country, btc is not recognized as money or financial asset. So, I don't need to pay bitcoin tax but if I echange my btc tax to my local money, than I have to pay tax. |
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It's good idea but someone have to organize it.
I see that we already have bitcoin NGO locally, in some countries, but we need some world level NGO, which will coordinate the work of national organizations and help us to make a promotional campaign (including public lectures and conferences) that will cover the whole world, politicians, media and others.
Individual and limited campaigns in a small local area will not make a big impact.
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Bitcoin will always have its ups and downs, as always so far.
This is also the characteristic of each currency market, a lot changes on daily basis.
What is most important is the long-term trend and I'm optimistic that bitcoin will continue to rise.
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How many idiots who decided to invest in bitcoin!!!!!!!
It is necessary not to watch as he grows from 15000 to 17000. This is a visual illusion.
And as it grows from 1.5 to 1.7.....
In recent days printed 180 million tether and still no big growth....
Lending on the stock exchange came to a billion dollars.
The credit rate on the day was a record and more than the 0.103%.
This means that the market has reached its peak. The price of cryptocurrency maximum.
This is the moment when you have to sell everything.
So began a process of growth needs the infusion of more money.... They're gone.
I think the joy of endless growth to an end this weekend.
Nothing in this world is eternal and permanent.....
And rising prices of bitcoin are not eternal.... all ends already.....
Please allow people to think by themselves. Btc price is determined by supply and demand only. If more people wants to buy, btc price go up. If more people wants to sell, btc price go down. It's very simple market rule, no mystery here. I agree that nothing is eternal but bitcoin is still in demand, some shops are accepting btc, we have btc debit cards, btc ATM etc. Also, bitcoin is main entry point for people interesting in crypto currencies. So, from this facts, I believe that bitcoin still have potential to grow. Please show respect to others and accept their business decision. |
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Čini mi se da je bitcoin konačno blizu da probije ''psihološku'' granivcu od 10 000$.
Nakon toga mislim da je dobra šansa da naraste relativno brzo na 12-13 000$.
Izgleda da se trend konačno mijenja.
Nadam se samo da se sada neće opet pojaviti neka ''loša'' vijest tipa najave nove zabrane neke crypto mjenjačnice ili nečeg sličnog, što bi opet moglo preokrenuti trend i izazvati novu rasprodaju.
Da, meni ovo isto izgleda sve bolje i bolje. Ima nekih koji govore da je ovo i dalje bulltrap koji će doći do $10.500 i onda opet ljosnuti dolje. Nisam dovoljno iskusan da kažem hoće li biti tako ili neće, ali da lijepo izgleda ovo zelenilo - izgleda  9 909 $ pa opet malo dolje, pa gore do ispod 10 000$ Nadao sam se da će konačno danas btc probiti tu psihološku barijeru od 10 000 $ ali izgleda da ćemo ipak morati još malo pričekati (resistance je još vrlo jak). Problem kod bitcoina je da ima jako puno mladih i neiskusnih ulagača, na koje jako utječu tzv. ''negativne'' vijesti iz medija tipa neke btc zabrane, bilo gdje u svijetu. Zato je gotovo nemoguće davati prognoze o kretanju cijene bitcoina jer bilo koja vijest može preokrenuti trend i pokrenuti paničnu rasprodaju. Dugoročno sam optimista, ali što će biti kratkoročno, za koji tjedan, ili mjesec, gotovo je nemoguće prognozirati. Neki se tzv. analitičari hvale svojim grafovima i znanjem ali svi njihovi grafikoni i analize ne vrijede ništa kada se mase uspaniče i počnu rasprodavati bitcoin |
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The best time to buy or enter bitcoin was in 2009, when btc was very cheap, only a few cents. Of course, we couldn't join at that time because we didn't hear about bitcoin rght from the beginning. Our bad luck I still think that even today is very good time to buy bitcoin but we have to be aware that the return time of the investment has significantly increased. So, bitcoin is now for investors who are here long term and can wait. |
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People want to use everything from government: electricity, hot water, gas and other stuff. It's the main reason why people agree to pay taxes, when taxes are very high people used to yell about it.
Very well said. This is actually a question of human solidarity. People who are richer do not need so mach state services. Poor people and children, and the unemployed, who do not contribute so much to society, need state services as public health service, cheap public transport, pensions etc. Richer people are expected to give more although they need less government services. Poor people give less but receive more from the state. Without righteous tax policy, richer people would have everything and the poor people would have nothing. This would lead to great social inequality, chaos, disorder and rebellion. So, we have no choice but to pay taxes. |
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No way.
There are lots of new, young and very inexperienced investors here.
Since they do not have any previous experience, and believe in everything what they read in the mainstream media, when they read something dramatically bad about bitcoin, it is hard to expect that they will remain rational and reasonable.
When the panic sell starts, and the price begins to fall sharply, it is very difficult to stop it.
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If you check btc price from the beginning, in 2009, you will see that price continuously growing, with occasional, short-term falls.
Because of this, and a large number of new bitcoin users, I didn't worry about bitcoin, even when the price fell below $6,000.
Bitcoin is very good investment long term.
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