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7621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: November 23, 2016, 01:11:47 AM
Always trust your instinct!

Your only partner when you are playing alone. Instinct.  Grin

Hit and run for me.
Win and a little and run. Come  back again tomorrow and see if I am still lucky then do it over and over. Needs control with your rage if you lose.

lol for this but i think its a good strategy to avoid for losing bit money and i am really agree with you. its not need much time to do this and we only need little win, leave the games as quick as we can, come back again tomorrow. but this ways can not be a solution in everytime we playing gambling because we can not win every time too. so control yourself while you are win and don't be too greedy  Grin
As long as you are in control you can still continue but make sure you have your goal of winning otherwise you will not be enjoying your day as greediness will strike, once it strikes FYI no one will be success as we will end up losing with gambling.
7622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 22, 2016, 02:36:03 AM
No, the only safe way to gamble is to stay away, or play with tiny ammounts, and nevere cross your first wall, lets say you go to casino with 10 dollars to spend, if you loose those you shouldnt invest more 20 trying to recover those, in the end i do believe gamble was made to change our life, the purpose were to be profit or help people, not make them addicted.

No are not gambling at all when you stay away in gambling and your advise does not answer the question "Is their any safe methods to gamble?".

No risk at all because you will not enjoy..
7623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 22, 2016, 02:23:03 AM
i've been making a good income from poker... but it's no exactly gambling(and i'm still not rich  Sad)

Anyway, to me gambling is a hobby not a work.
i'm sure you can find a few successful gamblers, but they are rare.

All of that also depends on how one looks at about gambling, and I would argue that everyone who holds that gambling is the place to look for profits are those who will never get what they think could be said or they will become addicted and just get the losses. So it all comes from our mind, if our mind is doing something right then the results obtained also the right thing
Awareness is important, by understanding gambling we know that we can win and we can lose depending on our luck and the way we do it. If we have tried many times and we were not able to achieve good results, then it's not good to gamble at all and you will never be rich in gambling.

We should learn that it's not for everyone to make money in gambling but for everyone to enjoy.
7624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: November 22, 2016, 01:48:00 AM
There is no easy way to make profit with gambling. Honestly, only Poker has some learning methods and you can win a lot if you reach a high skill. Any other type of gambling (99,9%) you're hostage of your luck. It's like flip a coin. So, you have to read books, watch videos, learn with experienced people, maybe you gonna lose some money before reach a higher ground, so, you can make some profit.
I disagree too if you're just mentioned Poker as the only way/easier way to make profit. Sports betting is the other way, you need to be expereinced in sports and you''ll make decent profit once you doing that. See CarlesPuyol's pick on his prediction thread for refference.

All gambling have the same level of profit, and the difference of each gambling one with the other is gambling how to play. If they can do the game properly then I am very confident that the advantages they get also the maximum. I am very concerned with all the people doing gambling, for the most part they gamble in a way that is not good or they are very greedy when doing these same things, gambling that makes the game so bad
The thing is our skills matters and people does not have the same skills in gambling and since gambling is one of the hardest way to make money as per statistics that there are a lot of losers compared to winners. That has been proven as most of the gambling sites are profitable, and I am happy to inform everyone that I have a profit investing in gambling sites.
7625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: November 22, 2016, 01:40:25 AM
I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...

Well in both you are playing against others, being just a casino script or whales, as you are putting your coins into a risk i would consider the same, even knowing a small difference between, that is be able to control the loss or winnings when you risking to gamble.
Base on facts, in gambling we have a less chance of winning while trading we have a great chance of becoming successful if and only we will have to work for it. In gambling it's different as most of time you rely on luck but in trading you cannot rely on luck alone as the more you are knowledgeable you will develop your skills.
7626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: November 22, 2016, 01:21:07 AM
We know all wanna to get more income, and all wanna profit, but some people does have fun while they play, in the general both are the main reasons to gambe, some does it and feel pleasure, while others just searching for profit and big rewards.

Indeed basically bitcoin will give us an advantage. So also if bitcoin with gambling are combined, it will give you a bigger profit if it hadn't gotten a victory price bitcoin is very high. But all we know in gambling is very little appetite and levels that we have greater knowledge about gambling. The thing that makes us get defeat, and the thing to do is to change the way of thinking and start thinking about strategy
Strategy is the most important that you need to have in gambling, but not all game is worth a strategy because if you really want to make money and that is your aim you need to find a game where you can use your skills and probably it's not a game where there's a house edge.

Skilled base games is what you should focus and just choose one game you are interested in.
7627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: November 21, 2016, 07:28:16 AM
Yeah it is the same because you do not know who is going to win the match so you do not not the outcome so you take a gambling.
That means that you are gambling and rely on luck about who is going to win the match.
Yes it is also the same as gambling because there is also money involve here, if you bet in sports then it will already be called gambling.
We even gamble in elections so definitely it's gambling, and to tell you people it has been the most popular type of gambling for the men now because most of men love sports and since sports book have a variety of games we can choose for our betting needs so we are hook to it.
7628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Bitcoins have Tax?? on: November 21, 2016, 07:24:52 AM
No there is no taxes in bitcoin. What made you think that bottom have taxes. It's free from government rules it's fully decentralized for all over the world and there is no one to take the taxes. And even none of the government can't modify or impose  taxes but we'll they can ban the currency.
You are right but still it have tax .
Actually in small transaction we have freedom of tax but if we go for deals in lakhs then according to government rules of tax we need to pay yearly tax for bitcoin give/take .
Because if a trader is giving money in lakhs or taking money in from/his bank account then we need to give answer for which purpose we have madrd the transaction .
There's no rule telling really that we need to pay taxes using bitcoin, the fact that bitcoin is not yet regulated so they cannot enforce tax to us. Time will come in the future if bitcoin will be regulated that is the only time that taxing bitcoin would happen.

For now, we enjoy using bitcoin tax free and it could benefit us so much.
7629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 21, 2016, 07:01:13 AM
When you can gamble with real money that is very fitting, how might you can stop when you have a lot of money?
 logically it's not possible, could you be a professional gambler because a lot of money.
you have a point but i think it is also depend of a person how they can handle their money/bitcoin or income. Because I know lots of rich people it is really hard for them to waste money because they really wanted to earn more because rich people don't waste their golden time to waste also their money.

A lot of people will be very focus on their goal to becoming rich. So they may not spent time to go and gamble, but what happen is that when people start to think they have achieve a strong passive income, they will tend to look for entertainment to satisfy themselves and that is where they end up spending all their time in gambling.
yeah there are also people wants to gamble when they have a lot of money to play with but most rich people that i know doesn't want to use their money in a waste of time and if there is no assurance at all.
Rich people are busy to make themselves richer, they are more focus in their business that generates them income and true they gamble but I am certain it's just something to have fun just to release the stress in life and more like having social life with friends, they do it in real casinos and not online.
7630  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: November 21, 2016, 06:39:39 AM
Doesnt matter if you agree. They are coming. It will be a process. No fractional reserves..

It is really coming after the news that Switzerland Central Bank plans to have crypto bank. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1685326.0
So most of us are disagree with this type of concept but the game will change now as a first world country is going to accept bitcoin through their bank.
if it is a fact then it is really a good news about the future of bitcoin, i think then Switzerland has to accept bitcoin as legal currency, i think bitcoin will become more popular if any country take the step and consider bitcoin as legal currency.

And take that is Central Bank of Switzerland then for sure they will give big contribution in the bitcoin industry. This is a good move that a well known and rich country is the one who voluntarily say that they are now planning to accept bitcoins. So if other countries will see this and tries to adopt it also then bitcoin is no more anonymity.
Big country adopt then small countries will follow, it will be the start, this country sees the opportunity to grow their market with bitcoin and to think this is bank, it is already ensured that they have made a study with bitcoin to come up with a very good decision.
7631  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: November 21, 2016, 06:36:22 AM
Investing bitcoins is quite risky mate but if you will invest I recommend you invest it on altcoin trading. It gives good long term returns if you invested in a good coin but there's a risk of losing some money here so you need some skills and knowledge about it. Investing on investment sites seems good sometimes too but most of the time it ain't good so I recommend you to stay away from it. Investing in a gambling site's bankroll is good too better than letting your bitcoin sleep in your wallet but can make you lose money too.

investing bitcoin use atcoin trading
compare use bitcoin trading pair fiat money
risk is still high altcoin, altcoin trading risk above bitcoin trading pair fiat money
of course because altcoin have higher fluctuations than bitcoin, I never lost more than% 70 of all my money because I bought altcoin wrong, and it altcoin prices continue to fall
The same risk and reward ration, altcoins can give us good profit but can also lose our money because of the big price fluctuation. Now, your only way to make money in altcoin investing and trading is when you have the ability to predict the future price by reading on the trend and being active on the community.
7632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 20, 2016, 01:37:52 AM
Losing and winning in gambling depends on your luck. I can't say gambling is wrong as for most people it is also played for fun not just for winning.
But one should realize if they are becoming addicted to gambling. Being addicted to gambling can make you lose a lot of money.
literally for me gambling is not wrong as long as you know how to handle yourself and you know your limitations, because for me gambling is wrong depend of a person that is playing with it. it will only get wrong if you are really out of control. And you didn't also listening to your family and friends that you should stop it.
There's no condition actually, gambling is not wrong period...

If you do not handle yourself, it's your problem and gambling has nothing to do with your failure, this is suppose to be played for fun and not for money where greedy people are thinking they can take advantage.
7633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: November 20, 2016, 01:32:01 AM
But luck is sometimes comes to us and not everyday..

How do you know that ? Does it inform you beforehand ? Roll Eyes Mine is completely random though.



If that happens to him, he can be a millionaire now, he might bought a time machine for that. Really bad for people who think they have control over their luck as they will live with their luck and die with their luck. Luck is the not key in gambling to win but consistency.
7634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: November 20, 2016, 01:24:03 AM
Banks will change or go under but they won't go away. They will always find some service to provide that someone else will want to buy.
yes i agree for your opinion , i am believe that bank always used .. because bitcoin  not yet function like bank

Why would you want Bitcoin to function as a regular bank? More important, what is Bitcoin according to you missing since you want it to be like a bank? You can send and receive money 24/7 instantly without the need of a middle man, you own everything in full, it's a great tool to avoid interferene from banks and governments. Only benefits. That's why I don't understand what you are missing. Or probably.... You are not getting any interest on your coins as it is, is that what you are looking for?
I have always though that bitcoin is a great invention but it can also bring fear to some people since now you are completely responsible for your own financial success, when your money is in the bank there are some things the bank offers that bitcoin does not, like interest rates or savings protection, for people used to those things leaping into bitcoin may seem like a risk and even worst since you are on your own.
The interest you are talking is not really beneficial to us because the bank will use our funds to lend to their clients and we are just paid a little interest in return while they get the big amount. What they do is they also risk the money that they raise so why not just for us risk our own money in bitcoin, at least here we have great return.
7635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: November 20, 2016, 12:57:43 AM
There is no way to prevent the bad use of fiat neither bitcoin or other altcoins, the owner can use it for anything he does wanna, the only thing that will show is the adress being used for such transaction, knowing its pseudo anonymous we dont know what are the funds for. Bitcoin has attracted several drug dealers, and the famous silk road, that were closed in the begining, but dark markeplaces keep playing and there is no way to stop all forever.
That's why there's a freedom for every users to do what they desire for their bitcoins. However, anything they committed illegal will have to be dealt accordingly with the law when caught. People will bad or illegal intension will always do, but in my case I would not try, it's hard to end up the rest of our life in jail.
7636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 20, 2016, 12:51:03 AM
Find a good hobby like sports, music etc and keep focus on your new hobby. Try to avoid to meet with friends that still on gambling business and hopefuly you will be able to quit gambling with it. But, it's 100% depends on you. How strong your desire to quit gambling?

Yes, one can come out of this habit if they completely stop using the computer for some time and spend more time in outdoor activities with family and friends. But as you said they shouldn't meet people who discuss gambling then surely they can stop gambling habit soon or later.

I agree with you mate. If you only gambles online, then the best way to get out of it is to stay away online for couple of days and just do anything outdoor. If your source of income is doing online work, then you better try to find something about it - maybe you can block the gambling sites you are playing with.
it is easy to say but difficult to apply, i think the most difficult job for an addicted person is to stop playing gambling at once, i have seen so many people who have tried for several times to stop gambling but after some days they start playing gambling again, to me the best idea is to change your playing strategy, try to limit your gambling amount,  and never carry more that your limited amount into casino so that you cannot become able to continue gambling after loosing your limited amount in gambling.
It is just a cigarette if you are addicted it can be hard to stop it because make it as your daily hobby.. But like other said psychiatrist can help and give some recommendation that can help to prevent or to quit in gambling but you need th support of you friends and family make an vacation and apply it to your self but if you are not willing to change your hobby like playing dota or league of legends or any hobby that can be addicted without money involve and never help your self you can stop and quit in gambling it needs willingness..
There's a big difference here, in gambling you can lose millions but with cigarette you will just have to spend a little amount. In terms of addiction, cigarette can destroy your health but gambling is worst because it will first destroy your pocket then your health.
7637  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: November 20, 2016, 12:38:11 AM
Bitcoin is appreciating over time but cash isn't. Cash is subject to a wild inflation. Facts are here.
True, you can's trust cash as your investment because it will not give you that. Use only cash for your spending needs but do not keep all your holdings in cash, there's always a way which are bitcoins or buying gold as you investment.

Think of your future if you want to live a comfortable life because in this world we need to be smart and think always outside the box.
7638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 19, 2016, 05:41:11 AM
I keep on coming back to win more Cheesy  Dice is a boring game, but the moment you see the pattern on it, it will more likely make you come back to earn more.  The pattern might be broken in some extent but it really work sometime.
 I tried Yobit dice and somehow some random pattern occurred.  This is not a glitch but somehow a pattern in their code.  Though this pattern will more likely to make you lose more but with the right timing of quitting and playing the next day will make you book profit by playing a certain turn and quit at the right time.  the pattern getting more difficult each day until the time where you need to sit back and not play for a couple of days. If greed triggers then mostly you will lose because you will lose tracks of turns, winnings and losing.
The word that I highlight is a trap, it makes us believe that there's a pattern in gambling particularly in dice where in fact it's a machine or system generated game where the previous results is independent in the future result, that pattern is bullshit. Let's mature more so we will understand we have no chance in the long run.
7639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 19, 2016, 05:33:38 AM
what a sweet win for raptors, i bet with 1.70 odd inside the overtime good job waiting for spurs and lakers game, this young guns of lakers really making some hard time for spurs let see how coach pop will adjust in the second half.
Lakers are fighting, however they are still a young team and they are paying against a good team in the league. One thing I notice also when I check the line up, Russell is not playing I guess.

2nd half is crucial in the game but I believe it's the Spurs who will be victorious in the end. I got -2.5 for Spurs in 3q.
7640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: November 19, 2016, 05:02:24 AM
Bitcoin is used for illegal activities by some. There is no doubt about it. But what makes Bitcoin different from the other payment methods is that, in the early days Bitcoin was very heavily used for the trade of drugs and weapons from dark market sites such as Silk Road and BMR. The other payment processors were used for illegal trade only after they got established themselves.
Yeah there is no denying that bitcoin is being used quite lot for illicit activities such as drugs or selling weapons and even hiring hitmans and this have affected the image of bitcoin pretty much. Because people keep reading news about how bitcoin is badly used by criminals, they unconsciously think that bitcoin is something really bad. But I think that no currency can escape from the fact that it will be used for illegal stuffs so it's all about changing people's view of bitcoin.
yes that can be a fact that bitcoin may be used and may be using for illegal activities but on a very low level, as we can see that the number of bitcoin users are increasing from time to time and that is the reason that the price is increasing from time to time as demand is increasing so the number of good users of bitcoin is more that its bad users therefore it is not such a big issue as we can see that every type of currency can be use for illegal activities.
It's not very low my friend, if you have search int eh black market they are using bitcoin. In overall it's low but for the whole market of bitcoin it's definitely big. Any currency can be use for illegal activities and not just bitcoin, it's the decision of the users not the currency or bitcoin because the users give life to it.
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