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7621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: September 28, 2017, 02:18:10 PM
Math is the source of random algo used to get the result on a probability game like dice. Therefore​ it can be beat by means of Math too. This is still impossible for now but in the future it can be crack by some genius gamblers that want to win. There are some experements ongoing on how to gain on probabilty base game.

That's some very interesting research. Do you have any links to information on it?

I forgot the site. But you can manually search on google. I just saw it on a chatbox of some dice site. The guy is a high roller and experimenting for different combination to crack algo. I know that this sounds insane but I believe that it can be successful someday.
I do see those kind of person too on which they do made such calculations which they do really make it use to take advantage on the game but well i didnt really tend to believe if it does work or not because the thing on my mind is only that gambling houses cant really be cheated.I do believe that they are the ones who can possibly cheat its players but players cheating houses is really a rare case.
7622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 27, 2017, 07:39:05 PM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?

We can be smart players if our opponents are fools or dont know how to play the game well. If all of the players are smart including you then you will just rely on luck to win the game. So if you are not skilled or unfamiliar with that gambling game better you make some observations and practice well first before you enter that gambling or else you will surely lose your money.

In gambling except for card games in other games, we will not have our opponents. One we have to play against the house in casino games or we have to play with our skills in sports betting. So here if we compare house most of the time, we will become fools. so we can't make house fool better way to gambling is when the house started to win and you will be getting loss stop the game and play some other time.

There's actually no smart way except we discipline ourselves and play with rules and limits in order to stand a chance against the house. In such a case you're being smart with your gambling habit and it can lead to a rewarding gambling lifestyle and this is the only smart way apart from that you cannot outsmart the house.
play with rules , that thing will never work mostly , a lot of people have did it.

all they get just a disappointed , regretful and a lot of debt. gambling are harmful , don't do it if you love your life. better looking for another way to make money or entertainment. it won't be a good place for nobody, no way to being smart in gambling. that is all the facts.
Its not really bad to play gambling as long you do know to handle yourself we do know that gambling does really give an entertainment to us when we are bored but we should not treat it as a main source of income or believing that we can make money out of it.Smart way is that we should not fall into addiction of gambling.
7623  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: September 27, 2017, 06:58:51 PM
There is no specific time or conditions to decide to plan to sell, everyone by logic should have a plan befor starting trading because we are not sure about the success of this hard experience.
This actually depend on a certain individual on when he would plan to sell since we do have different target price on when we would decide to sell.Some may set up higher than on other which means this would really be on random but one things for sure on which we would really sell out our holding when we are already seeing percentage profits from our coins.
7624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: September 27, 2017, 06:30:05 PM
Definitely, it makes a big sense. I think size doesn't matter regarding making an investment. if you have an opportunity to make an investment in a profitable platform then it will bring a better profit rather than when you go to a large-scale investment in a dull project. so it depends on your judgment in terms of choosing a profitable platform. so that I think small investment sometime can bring a huge profit.
yes you should consider any amount of money you will invest as a worth one , it could bring you a huge confidence too. and an analysis required , on which one you want to make investment , sometimes it could gain you profit hundreds times!

so your $100 could turned into $10,000 or even better and crazier.
If you are pertaining on trading then it would be possible knowing that trading is also an investment but this thing would really require effort and hardwork and yes it does build confidence since you are just risking a small portion of your money.Any investment would really have sense since we do give importance on the money we have put on.
7625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: September 27, 2017, 05:12:25 PM
The worst mistake in gambling is trying to get the money back. You should always set a limit and take it as a pleasure, otherwise all attempts to continue the game will lead to a loss of money.
Yes trying hard to retain the lost amount is a big mistake with gambling. This further leads to losing more, because the user never take a decision comfortably. His entire focus will be on getting back the lost amount. Here everything collapses and at some situation the user is expected to quit gambling or gets addicted.
Chasing loses is one of the reasons why gamblers do always lose even more money on the end and thinking off that its not wise to stop here because they are already far away to go on chasing those loss.Hopes are always there this is why gambling industry is a profitable business because of these losers who do always chase and believing on those things which is nearly impossible to happen.
7626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 27, 2017, 03:57:05 PM
Something that helps from gambling is just helping you relieve stress and kill your boredom, and also if you get little or enough profit. I do not think there's anything else besides that. Since many who gamble for fun and would be helped if they are happy, there is also a gamble for profit and will be helped if they get profit.
Those are only the things that gambling can give you or help you in the sense you would able to enjoy it and at the same time it can give you money if you are lucky enough but also to think off that theres still other thing which can gambling would give is on which on self realizations specially on consequences that you would face up along the way like money management and emotion control which can be applied on real life situations.
7627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think you are a gambling expert? on: September 26, 2017, 08:45:45 PM
Yes I think I've learned enough to win most of my bets at sportbetting and poker but with casino I've got no luck so it's depend on you which game you choose to play at.
You won't find any luck with casino because it's based on luck or also on the house edge while in betting you might know what the outcome would be you might be a fan of the game or know someone who provides accurate results in betting. If you know any sport go with betting otherwise only invest in a casino and not gamble
Casinos were developed in such a manner to profit the house. So we get decreased chances of winning with casinos with the help of skills. Luck plays an important part in such events. While with sports betting to some extent the knowledge or the data regarding the teams and the players involved into it will help us predict the end result and increase the winning probability. So none seems to be an expert, until he explores and makes himself successful through gambling. It maybe because of luck or skills doesn't matter.
I usually see for those gambling experts would able to sustain theirselves for longer runs are on those  skill and experienced based games which is on poker or sportsbetting.There are really professional gamblers on this area on which they are somehow able to make money compared on to those ordinary players in the market.Im not an expert since im not really serious on making money on gambling because i do treat it as a way of entertainment.
7628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: lucky ! does it influences by a woman beside of us? on: September 26, 2017, 05:38:26 PM
I don't believe in such things, If you're lucky you won't be influented by whatever thing !!
In the meantime, If you're not all the word's women reunited behind you can't provide you this option.
When luck is with you nothing can avoid your triumph but when luck is against you there is nothing that can be done to help you win, and since the odds are against you in gambling most of the time, luck is going to be against you and no amount of superstitions are going to change that.
No superstition or any beliefs would work if luck wont really be in your side and those girls you do mention are just decorations and doesnt really influence on the luck you do have.Some gamblers do believe on sometime that those girls are might lucky when they are beside on him but the truth is that those are just coincidence that they won while those gals are beside him.
7629  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: September 26, 2017, 04:11:05 PM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.

Of course. All the person who are in trading or investing must learn how to accept loosing of money because in able to become a good investor and a trading person you nned that acceptance and you nned to overcome the attitude when loosing money because it not it may affect your income and your way of investing and trading with others.

having experience on it is not enough of course handling on how to overcome the loosing all over with you will be affected all of us have that attitude but some of us know how to manipulate and handle ourselves more experience then you are being calm maybe on that way you can overcome fear of loosing.
When we lose up money we would really have a bad feeling which would really boost up when we are aware that we are losing which our minds would definitely panic and would eventually lose up the control or awareness on what would the things that you gonna supposed to do.Some people do end up on making bad decisions rather than on controlling himself and have self acceptance on the possible risk that would happen to him.
7630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: September 26, 2017, 03:25:18 PM
At a younger age I liked slot machines, but now they do not bring me such pleasure as playing roulette, poker or sports betting. I think gambling machines are good only for beginners.
You are right when we don't have any experience how we choose an easy method like that in gambling also slot games are easy games for beginners. Whoever enters to gambling they first play these slot games and later on they will start to play skill games. We can't play slot games more time it's boring. So playing skill games like Poker, sports betting and other skill based games are good for time pass.
There are still professional or veteran gamblers who do still play slots for fun purposes since Its not really boring for other people who do play slots.For us it is really boring but for some they do enjoy on pulling out that lever.I dont know whats the enjoyment on that thing since when i first tried out on playing this game i dont have any interest at all and didnt play it again.
7631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 26, 2017, 02:54:03 PM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?

I usually do gamble for fun and entertainment only, I never take it seriously as my own profit.  Even If I win in the game it is still a game of relaxation to me, and relieved  my stress sometimes whenever I'm alone.
I would like to ask on how you do feel when you lose up money? Even you would say that its a relaxation for you for sure those losing times will really feel you are pissed but well as you said it does make you some relaxation which is really good. Gambling is just really created solely for entertainment and treating it as a profit making machine would really be a bad idea.
7632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gamblers here who are in Debt ? on: September 25, 2017, 07:28:29 PM
Some of my friends are in great debt because of gambling and I have seen how far it'll go if they won't be able to return their loans. One of them tried to end his life but fortunately his family saved him and he's fine now. But still think of gambling and it's really hard for him to leave.
The problem with gambling addiction is that you end your life and whatever but as you get any funds you will do the first thing called as "gambling" again because of the simple fact that you just want to win back everything.

I have myself been a gambling addict but what happened good to me was I used to win a lot. Then came a time that our country banned gambling and that actually saved me from potential loss.
i think it is still could give you addiction problem no matter you are living in a country where gambling are banned , you can easily access it through online gambling , don't you do it now? i don't believe if you never gamble online as you said you have won a lot in gambling.

you will always try to make money through the same instant way. and to get loan are your shortcut way when you run out of money.
This is true,we can freely access gambling sites with the use of VPN which no one would able to trace us that we are playing gambling online even if our government would really restrict us on playing it.
Having debts is just a common problem on most gambler which some of them end up on suicide because they cant repay those debts.
7633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: September 25, 2017, 06:18:44 PM
Religion is nothing but a bunch of principles and faith. You may claim that you have no religion but you cannot say that you do not have some principles or rules in your life. All those rules that keep us safe make our religions and we follow them. That's all. Some people may not play gambling because they think it is harmful and it is while some religions prohibit it and safe the person beforehand, without trying.


Im sure atleast everyone has religion. Even when they claim that they are atheist, they know that it is wrong to gamble but we still gamble right ? we dont follow the rules and we keep gambling, when we are addicted then it is going to be hard for us to get out of it. We keep on not wanting to quit until we realize that it is too late to quit
In my country, there are some ridiculous view. The law prohibited gambling , polices are busting people who organize or gambling . Break down all the house that put the servers in our country. But inside all of those polices, there're a bunch of gamblers , gambling even they're polices.
This is why this is just really like a sickness on where its really hard to stop specially if you are already a gambling addict.You would eventually do the stuff no matter what would be the blockage in front of you.Even here on my place,gambling is prohibited but i can still see some places on where gambling is present which means no matter to impose strict law on it there are really people would play no matter what.
7634  Economy / Economics / Re: How to double your money using BTC? on: September 25, 2017, 03:13:57 PM
Bitcoin isnt anymore the best and easy place to double or even get rich, for those its better to give a try to altcoins, eth, dash, ltc , doge and several more coins had been able to grow a lot and keep growing, bitcoin raised 3-4x this year, while some crypto coins did made x20-x100, soo its pretty clear bitcoin isnt anymore the best option but its the most safe.
When you compared their volatility i would say that bitcoin would be somehow safe compared on on altcoin but we do know the earning potential is really less compared to alts.The more volatile it is the more its rewarding when it comes to profits. Doubling would really be hard in terms of trading but possible we can make it on playing gambling but would really be a risky thing.
7635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? on: September 25, 2017, 02:40:31 PM
I am often late from work due to gambling. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?   

Unfortunately I have to give the affirmative answer to this question. Like you I also sometimes late from work because of gambling. And sometimes I even gamble during my work which is risky because you can get fired for doing things like that in working hours. I finished school long time ago, but actually I think I have to learn a lot of stuff still, so in a way gambling is distracting me from learning useful things too. I plan to limit the time I spend on gambling to 1 hour per day, otherwise I think it's unhealthy.
You should try best to avoid gambling as much s you can. Are you crazy? You are putting your job and career on risk just because of this disease called gambling. Just stop this nonsense or consult some doctor in order to divert mind when you have strong urge for gambling.
It is such a misery if someone is putting his financial career on the line for gambling. It is actually depressing and sad. This way, the harm does not remain to the gambler only but it will also affect his entire family and those people are innocent. I recommend the same as you have. He must visit a psychiatrist.

I couldn't agree more, such situations are very bad but I don't know why at this time and age andvwith the invention of Bitcoin and other Altcoins you'll still loose time in school or at work yo ho and gamble while you can do all online from anywhere.
Because of technology we would really be always have the time on playing gambling if we do really like too and as you said we can gambling even on school or work or anywhere what we are doing specially if you are a gambling addict then you would really do such thing no matter what.Which would really cause on losing money anywhere and anytime.
7636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: September 25, 2017, 02:19:07 PM
But occasional trading also annoying, because if has floating minus long enough. So must be patient waiting to make profit even for only 5%. While in gambling, it looks so easy to reach 5%. but just sometimes.

That just sometimes is the key factor in gambling. It looks easy but you're not sure whether you can reach that 5% target or not in gambling. But in trading, if you do some research before investing than you will get a chance to reach that 5% profit range but it may take some time to reach your target profit. Money making always takes time and there are not instant options to earn profits without risking your money.


Correct. But again investing on trades can be a lot painful if shit happens. Well shit happens most of the time, just like what happened to doge. It went from 25-100+ sats back to 25sats a coin. What a bummer


Indeed mate.. that happened to me once and it really hurts for losing a big amount of money in trading. So now I'm always careful when putting money in trading and same goes with gambling I always make sure that I'm always in control.

Being in control in everything you do makes it easier to be profitable although, having randomness in some of what we do make it exciting and thrilling. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I am not the only one who seeks excitement in life.
You are not the only one who do seek excitement on life but most people for sure. Everything should be in control so that we wont able to make excess engagement with it which would really result into negative.Regarding on the topic i would say that trading is less riskier compared on gambling since we can able to learn the proper ways on how to trade to increase our chances on having a profitable trades unlike on gambling which is solely dependent on luck alone.
7637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 24, 2017, 05:04:10 PM
Sorry for saying this but gambling help nothing with my life because I'm not into gambling so it doesn't affect me. Maybe it helps a lot to those who are lucky in gambling. Who wins in their every bet. I wish I am lucky too but not so I stopped.
I think gambling needs skills to, you think some guys can win in a big profit without researching , figuring out about what happen, the odds , the team, head to head history? No , no at all. You need to find out all those informations then make a right amount on bet. How sure are you for that bet? So it actually help you.
In some gambling games it does really need skills, research and decision making and analysis regarding on your bet.This is only possible on sports betting.I cant see a thing that gambling can help our life rather than on giving us money to be used on other things besides that i cant see anything since gambling is just really for entertainment and i dont really care too much what would be on the personal benefits that you would earn.
7638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with altcoins on: September 24, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
I see many coins around. Even a year ago there were some casinos accepting litecoin and dogecoin. As bitcoin is now really expensive and slow plus some people are afraid of tomorrow's segwit thing, I thought it would be interesting enough to create a poll and see how many people still gamble with bitcoin and are there many fans of other coins. Nowadays the range is really wide, so we have what to choose from What do you think?

Gambling with altcoins is smart, the bitcoin transaction fee I feel is too high right now for sending back and forth to the gambling sites.
This is probably the only real reason to gamble with altcoins, the transaction fee of bitcoin is still too high while the transaction fee of a coin like doge is very cheap, the only issue is that bitcoin is accepted in most casinos and this is does not apply to altcoins so we are going to be limited in the number of casinos that we can play with it.

Many reputed sites are accepting Doge coins expect a couple of them like primedice site. If you're planning gamble only for fun then you can always choose the site which are accepting these altcoins to play the games and no need to go to those Bitcoin-specific sites to play. Dogecoin price is very cheap, transactions are fast and transaction fee also less so most people like to gamble with it and I also tried few times with Dogecoin to play dice game.

If you are really playing gambling for pure entertainment then using DOGE coins would really satisfy you out because just like what you said it do have cheap value,fast confirmations with less fees this is why using this altcoin is not really a hassle thing.You can really enjoy the game on using it.There are really sites who do accept Doge and other altcoins because most of them accept already altcoin besides on bitcoin itself.
7639  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC analysis for this month! on: September 24, 2017, 02:26:09 PM



Hey Speculators,
I am starting up with a tentative analysis over Bitcoins and help you understand about the basic levels if you are not that Pro in all this.
I am a steady Price Action trader who loves to derive levels on his own by watching naked charts only because I never use any indicators to draw where the price will tend to move.
In the image above, we can clearly see that Bitcoin is currently at level which should be determined as the Pivot point as the coin is currently moving with good stability currently with no such harsh moves.
It is currently in a triangle and could break up any time towards high because the momentum towards upside is looking much better against a drop.
It is currently holding hard at its Pivot level and Support 1 (3500) seems unlikely atm seeing the gains it has made so far.
However, it needs to break the triangle with some great force and cross Resistance 1 (4000) in order to confirm an uptrend where achieving Resistance 2 (4500) won't be that hard. After that, I see a rally incoming.
If we do really base on technical analysis it did already form triangle and it would really break out soon going bullish which as those pivot points would really be reached out but we cant really be sure because of the upcoming news on this end of this month on which i do believe that we cant really depend or basing on the technical analysis itself.This is why im still on on doubt if it would breakout upwards or dip down because of the news.
7640  Economy / Gambling / Re: Someone just converted 0.05 BTC to 0.75 BTC on chain-bet.com on: September 24, 2017, 12:37:28 PM
Heres another one. #3293 won 1.5 BTC for his 0.1 bet. This is indeed a lucky guy who did hit the pot.For other who did say they dont like to risk money on this big then some people would really dare to bet amounts.Since its their own money and we cant do anything.Badluck if they dont won but if they hit the spot then surely they would smile.
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