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7701  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why doesn't bitcoin have a "freeze" function? on: August 24, 2021, 08:25:20 AM
You can't clone my credit card.
Ever heard of credit card skimming? It captures the info on the magnetic strip and steals the credit card number and the CVV code. A camera records you as you enter your PIN code. I read a story a few years ago about a guy who worked at a gas station who was skimming the cards of some of the customers. He would first give them a fake lookalike device to swipe their card and enter their PIN. After that he would say, crap the device isn't working. Please try this one. He would then connect the real one and have them pay what they owed. There are ways to do it.

Plus, you could very well end up in jail if you weren't careful.
That's unimportant at this point. We aren't discussing potential punishments. 

unless my deposits are insured with them by the united states government then i can't really trust it. sorry.
Bitcoin isn't insured by the US government or anyone else either. Do you trust and use it?
7702  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 BTC365.com 🔥|Best Crypto Betting Platform! on: August 24, 2021, 08:12:11 AM
For deposits, we require 1 confirmation for BTC and an average of 6 confirmation for ETH/USDT.
OK, good to know. I asked that question because your website talks about "blazing-fast deposits" that take less than five minutes. That made it look like you have instant deposits to me. Maybe you can change that since that's not the case. The claim that the deposits are "blazing-fast" isn't true if the appropriate network fees weren't paid by the sender. On top of that, the next Bitcoin block can sometimes take 30-40 or more minutes to be constructed.
7703  Other / Meta / Re: Meriting your own alt account for non abusive reasons on: August 24, 2021, 08:06:19 AM
If the forum rules explicitly prohibits meriting your own alt-accounts, even with the most honorific or reasonable excuse, it should not be allowed in any case.
Actually, there are no rules when it comes to meriting at all. There is only the community's viewpoint on this matter. If you want to see what theymos thinks about it, take a look at his quote that LoyceV posted in post #14.

Besides OP, with your caliber of a poster, receiving 1 merit would not be too difficult on your experience and skill.
Like I said in my OP, this is only a fictional scenario and not something I have plans to do.
7704  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: How To Verify the Downloaded Version of Ledger Live on: August 24, 2021, 07:58:34 AM
The OpenSSL Wiki actually has a list with a number of sites for getting Windows Binaries: https://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/Binaries
Thanks for the list. The OpenSSL wiki has the site I used and recommended placed on top, so everything is good. I did notice a significant difference in size. The Windows installer I downloaded from the wiki source is 63MB, while the curl 7.78.0 for Windows is only 5MB. I guess the first source contains many more libraries and/or tools while curl.se only comes with the basic package.   
7705  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / A. Antonopoulos’ Take on Seed Splitting and Bruteforcing on: August 24, 2021, 07:27:53 AM
I was watching this video of Andreas explaining the dangers of splitting your seed into several parts. He was answering a question from someone who wanted to know about the safety of splitting the seed into three different locations. Any two of those locations would contain all the words and would be enough to recreate the mnemonic.

A)   Words 1-8 and 9-16
B)   Words 1-8 and 17-24
C)   Words 9-16 and 17-24

Andreas explains that it’s a bad idea and suggests using Shamir's Secret Sharing scheme to those who want to split up their seed words for whatever reason.

A 24-word recovery phrase contains 256 bits of entropy. That’s impossible to brute-force with today’s technology. In the proposed method of spitting represented above, there are 16 out of 24 words in each location. 8 words are missing. AA explains how the last word of the phrase is the checksum, and since only one word fits in that position, it can be brute-forced much easier than the rest.

Location A doesn’t contain the checksum, and you will be required to brute-force 7 of the missing words + the checksum. AA says that it decreases the entropy to 80 bits that need to be brute-forced. I don’t have any knowledge about brute-forcing, but Andreas says that’s an exponential. It’s not going to take one-third of the time (since you only need to crack 1/3 of the seed). It’s much less than that. According to the explanation under the video, it’s 2^176 times easier to brute-force those 80 bits of entropy. He goes on to mention that this could be easily done in the next decade with the appropriate hardware, especially if the checksum is known.   

Did he set the bar too low, or could this be “easily brute-forced in the next decade”? 2^176 times quicker to brute-force doesn’t tell me much about a timeframe, so with the most powerful possible hardware, how long would such a process take approximately?


The video about this topic can be watched here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5nSibpfHYE&list=PLPQwGV1aLnTuN6kdNWlElfr2tzigB9Nnj&index=35
7706  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 BTC365.com 🔥|Best Crypto betting Platform! on: August 23, 2021, 01:35:15 PM
I cannot access the site because my location is restricted, but find it surprising of all the many gambling sites I've had accounts and visits this is one of the few sites that restrict my country
That's because the majority of other sites have Curacao-based gaming licenses, but this platform is licensed in Montenegro. Different licensor = different restrictions.

Could you tell us what the use is of this rule from your terms? How can there be transaction costs other than miners fees? They can never be even close to 5%
They explained this in one of their previous posts. If you deposit or withdraw less than the minimum amount, that's when that rule can kicks in. Unless you do that, it's not going to happen.


@btc365partners
You accept USDT but over which network? Do you accept the TRC20 version over Tron?
You stated that your deposit and withdrawal times are 5 minutes of less. Does that mean you have instant deposits, or how many confirmations are needed for the balance to be credited in BTC and ETH?
7707  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Lightning Network FAQ on: August 23, 2021, 12:31:04 PM
if you don't know what it is, how can you think it is not stupid?
I am basing that solely on the info found on Zion's homepage. 

same with the telephone for example or language, or money (like bitcoin). there will be only one in the longterm (or at least one network which dominates).
I am not sure what you consider long-term but there are different currencies and languages, and depending on where you are, it's you who need to adapt and not the other way around. You can try and shop with your dominant USD or EUR or whatever in a particular country and see how far that gets you. When I was doing some work in Germany a long time ago, I asked my boss if we can speak in English because I am fluent in English and still learning German. She said no! We speak German here. In other words, you can take your dominant English language and shove it. She just said it nicely.

wow such a great claim, did you know that you can get paid right now for your creation? as i said, the idea is stupid
So what? Since when is more competition not desirable? If I buy my groceries at shop #1, I should never enter shops #2 or #3 even if they have the same or better type of offers and should consider them stupid for trying?
7708  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Lightning Network FAQ on: August 23, 2021, 11:56:18 AM
this is a pretty stupid idea... there is already activity pub for example, why reinvent the wheel? for what?
I am not familiar with either Zion or Activity Pub, but I don't think the idea is stupid. Besides, there isn't just one internet browser, there are many different types. There isn't one document creating and editing software, there are multiple.

Zion claims that content creators can get paid for their creations and those who consume the content can get in on it as well. Compare that with traditional social media platforms, you get nothing unless you are a famous person with millions of followers. On the other hand, the platforms make money on your data and interests. 
7709  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why doesn't bitcoin have a "freeze" function? on: August 23, 2021, 11:11:07 AM
Well obviously the 2nd factor is the physical card itself! I didn't think that was necessary to explain but I guess it is. You're not going to be able to use the card if you don't have it. It's just that simple.
I don't need the card. I just need the numbers on it, the CVV number, and its expiration date and I can shop with it online. With a little bit of research, I could also replicate those numbers on a blank card with a piece of hardware and withdraw money from ATMs as well if I unfreeze it or if it already is unfrozen.

So you consider your credit card the first level of security and your online banking account the 2nd level? OK. In that case, why is your hardware or software wallet (protected with a PIN or password) not the first level of security, and your private keys or seed phrase not the 2FA? If you don't consider that to be optimal, you can introduce a passphrase or multisignature setup like mentioned above.
7710  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Searching for early transactions on the blockchain on: August 23, 2021, 09:30:34 AM
It's awfully slow and a boring process, but as NeuroticFish said, if you don't mind checking it manually block by block, use this https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block/1. Just change the last digit to the next block number. I checked the first 20 and there are only block rewards in those. Smiley
7711  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Thoughts about Passport hardware wallet on: August 23, 2021, 09:15:25 AM
I remember example of hackers being able to steal your Bitcoin from ledger wallet because of flaw with some of their forked altcoin app isolation bypass:
https://monokh.com/posts/ledger-app-isolation-bypass
I remember this issue and it was much more severe than what Ledger was ready to admit.
However, if you scroll down on that report you shared to the section that describes the "Attack methods", you will see some examples how that vulnerability could have been used in practice.

They say:

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You are invited to try out a new service with testnet coins, that actually sweeps real Bitcoin out of your wallet.
Invited by whom? You shouldn't trust and use dubious services and websites whether it's about crypto or anything else or accept invites and click on links from people you don't know. Unless you fiddle around with such things, you would have been safe from the attack.

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You swap low value coins on an untrusted exchange. The exchange can read your Bitcoin balances and given a good enough opportunity will take the exit. You wouldn't have applied the same level care with altcoins.
I am not sure what exactly is meant with this. Maybe it's about connecting your Ledger hardware to a DEX. This is in my opinion the most dangerous attack method. If you had to connect to an unpopular exchange for whatever reason and they had ways to steal your bitcoin.

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You could be targeted with a patched version of Ledger Live that sends Bitcoin instead of altcoins. Then prompted to do a P2P trade with altcoins.
Whoever is involved in crypto should know by now where and how to download the official software, what phishing is, and how to check the authenticity of what they just downloaded. That's now possible to do with Ledger Live as well. Grin Don't fall for fake apps and your bitcoins will stay safe. 
7712  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why doesn't bitcoin have a "freeze" function? on: August 23, 2021, 08:42:09 AM
Yeah but he said "You freeze your funds when you keep your private key hidden, so your bitcoin is already always frozen." That's a bad comparison too because just keeping something "hidden" doesn't mean it's "frozen". If someone finds it, that would automatically "unfreeze" it without needing a 2nd factor.
You just explained how your bank protects someone from using you credit card. The fact that your card is "frozen" provides no security whatsoever if someone knows how to access your online banking account. If I have your login data, I can unfreeze the card with the click of a button. Where is the second factor authentification for freezing and unfreezing if it can be done with the same password and account?
7713  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Having a wallet on both Windows and Android on: August 23, 2021, 08:26:48 AM
I didn't realize smartphones had that many security problems, and you're right about most people thinking they don't need as much protection on their phones.  I'm one of those, and I appreciate your post.
It basically comes down to what you use your phone for. Don't poke the bear if you don't want to get attacked. If you aren't someone who needs 40 different apps, games, widgets, or add-ons, a mobile wallet is a decent solution to work as your hot wallet. Each of those unknown apps is a new potential threat to your security and privacy anyways. Just keep it to a minimum and apply the same logic you use on your home PC to your phone as well. That includes not visiting weird websites, opening email attachments, etc. Phones also have anti-virus software and ad blockers.   

...you never know who's going to gain access to your phone, whether it's a thief, a snooper, or law enforcement.
Chances of something like that to happen are of course higher if you carry that device with you all the time like you do with a phone. But a thief can also rob your home and turn your life in a nightmare   

And given how risky it is to store coins on your phone (as Lucius has pointed out), why risk it?
Lucius is right when he talks about certain brands stop receiving new security and system upgrades. I am stuck on Android 9 for example and haven't had an update since October 2020.
7714  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: How To Verify the Downloaded Version of Ledger Live on: August 23, 2021, 07:51:43 AM
As far as I can tell... the .pem file from Ledger (which is their public key), is not importable into Kleopatra. Undecided

I just get a "BER Error" when attempting to import this public key
Same here. Although Kleopatra is supposed to support .pem files, there seems to be a compatibility issue and it can't be imported as you realized as well.

So, for windows, I downloaded the "precompiled openssl binaries"[1] from here: https://curl.se/windows/
There are Windows installers for OpenSSL here. This site was suggested on a few forums as a source to get hold of OpenSSL without having to compile it yourself.

The Ledger files can be anywhere, as long as they are in the same folder. You just need to configure OpenSSL to the correct directory and it will work.
7715  Other / Meta / Re: Meriting your own alt account for non abusive reasons on: August 23, 2021, 07:40:07 AM
I would hate to lose a mobile phone and have some a-hole delete 100000 posts of other people.

So I made the mobile account.
If something like that were to happen and someone stole your account, your threads are safe as long as other people posted in them. You can't delete a thread containing posts of other forum members. You can only delete your own posts, move, or lock the thread.

IMO, if you are regularly in contact with a business contact, you can use email instead of PM.
There are, of course, other means of contact including Skype or social media. But I intentionally created a scenario in which I wanted the forum's PM system to be the only thing I wished to use. 
7716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling on friendly matches on: August 22, 2021, 09:24:51 PM
I think there is a big different between betting on club friendly matches and national team friendlies.

Club friendlies are mostly played during the off-season, like the summer friendlies that just passed and were played throughout July and August. Those matches are played while the teams are in preparation mode and the players aren't in their competitive rhythm yet. New players arrive at clubs, and club friendlies are the time when their abilities and strengths are put to the test. The players usually don't have the strength for a 90 minutes match, so you often see the entire team being substituted at half time or around the one hour mark. Wagering  a lot of money on the favorites in such matches could be dangerous. The pre-season friendlies are also the time to test youth players to figure out which of them will stay at the club, who will be sold, or send out on loan.

International friendlies are different. They are played during the on-going football season. The players are already in good physical shape and their club competitions are in progress. There aren't that many international friendlies due to limited availability of players, so the national teams can't experiment a lot, and they tend to bring out a strong squad. The favorites will usually play to win, and it makes much more sense to wager money on this type of games.   
7717  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: August 22, 2021, 08:55:03 PM
Mislim da je ipak bolje ovako a nekako si mislim da on ionako većinu prijava više ni ne gleda.
Ne znam koje faktore uzima u obzir ali ima puno posla bez obzira. Ja sam kod jedne svoje prijave ušao u završni krug kada se je tražio veći broj novih članova i nisam tad primljen. Prijavio sam se onda više puta u narednim rundama kad god su primali nove članove i nikad nisam prošao prvu rundu. I onda jedan dan stiže PM i pitanje jesi još zainteresovan da pristupiš kampanji i to bi bilo to. Mislim da smo ja i dkbit98 na sličan način primljeni s tim da je on tjedan ili dva prije mene ušao. Nikad se ne zna šta im je u tom trenutku bitno kod novih članova. Pišem u množini jer se DS vjerovatno konsultuje sa CM adminom. 
7718  Other / Meta / Re: Meriting your own alt account for non abusive reasons on: August 22, 2021, 07:04:43 PM
Copper Membership includes whitelisting, which solves your problem.
I thought it didn't have any affects on the PM restrictions because I seem to remember an old post by theymos in which he said that it doesn't. Good to know that I was wrong. That basically solves this potential problem, thanks!

Get someone else to Merit your alt, that's what happened to Maggiordomo when Piggy didn't want to Merit his own alt-account to lift PM-restrictions.
That is isn't the ideal solution either. Asking someone to merit you isn't the way it's supposed to work and is also frowned upon. 

(But why the need to merit on the road anyway?)
No, not meriting on the road. Sending PMs while on the road. Newbies have a PM limitation of only 2 PMs in a 24 hour period. Let's assume that I have to keep in touch with x number of forum members daily while I am on my travels, and I only want to be in contact with them through the forum's PM system. I would only be able to send 2 PMs daily and that's it. But LoyceV cleared it up now, and purchasing a copper membership would solve the PM problem.
7719  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: How To Verify the Downloaded Version of Ledger Live on: August 22, 2021, 06:42:30 PM
I finally got the "Verified OK" notification for the SHA512 hash with OpenSSL. I haven't worked with this software in the past, so I had problems navigating to the correct path destination.

For those who want to try, the correct command is: cd followed by the path location. For example, if the folder with the downloaded Ledger files is on your Desktop, you would enter something like this:
Code:
cd Users\YourUsername\Desktop\Name of the Folder

For example:
cd \Users\Pmalek\Desktop\Ledger
7720  Other / Meta / Re: Meriting your own alt account for non abusive reasons on: August 22, 2021, 08:32:35 AM
And if not, then you should be able to earn them within a few weeks.
Maybe I don't want to bother that much or don't have the time for it.

I think Theymos might remove the pm restrictions on your newbie account if you sent him a message and asked too...
This is the first time I hear that he can do that? Are there are any documented cases where he has done that that you know about?

This forum is not against sending merit to alt, but veteran members do not like it due to genuine reasons
I know. That's part of the reason why I created this thread. To see how the community looks at all this. 

That is not yet a merit abuse.
I think it still counts as merit abuse. It's just that the motives are different. You aren't meriting yourself to rank up and participate in bounties, signature campaigns, giveaways, etc. You are only doing it to help yourself engage in regular forum activities easier. Like writing and replying to PMs without waiting for 24 or x hours to pass.   
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