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7701

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: electrum-3.0.1-setup.exe false positive?

on: November 08, 2017, 01:10:08 AM

If you're on Windows 7... and getting the "Python DLL error", grab v3.0.1 and try this: Quote from: HCP on November 08, 2017, 01:07:25 AM I have just tried the v3.0.1 "Windows Installer" (https://download.electrum.org/3.0.1/electrum-3.0.1-setup.exe) on a Windows 7 64bit VM... and I was getting the Python3.5 dll error... So I downloaded the Visual Studio 2017 VC++ Redist package from here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads This is the link I used: "Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2017" - https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=746572 After installing that, v3.0.1 works without any issues on my Win7 install!

7702

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: downgrade from 3.0.0 to 2.9.3

on: November 08, 2017, 01:07:25 AM

I have just tried the v3.0.1 "Windows Installer" (https://download.electrum.org/3.0.1/electrum-3.0.1-setup.exe) on a Windows 7 64bit VM... and I was getting the Python3.5 dll error... So I downloaded the Visual Studio 2017 VC++ Redist package from here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads This is the link I used: "Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2017" - https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=746572 After installing that, v3.0.1 works without any issues on my Win7 install!

7703

Other / MultiBit / Re: Multibit transaction

on: November 08, 2017, 12:54:35 AM

Are you using MultiBit Classic or MultiBit HD? - If you are using Classic, follow this tutorial to get your wallet imported into Electrum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaijbTcxsv8 - If you are using HD, follow this tutorial to get your wallet import into Electrum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-KcY6KUVnY NOTE: this process does NOT require creating transactions and does not need any fees etc. it is simply import your private keys (for MBC) or your wallet seed (for MBHD) into Electrum and recreating your wallet. Once you have your coins in Electrum, you will be able to have better control over your coins and transaction fees... So you will be able to send them to another wallet a lot easier if you want/need.

7704

Bitcoin / Bitcoin Wallet for Android / Re: I just downloaded a bitcoin android mobile wallet. Where is my private key?

on: November 08, 2017, 12:47:40 AM

It is possible to extract the BIP39 12 word seed mnemonic from a Bitcoin Wallet for Android backup file... you can then use Ian Coleman's BIP39 Mnemonic Code Convertor tool (https://iancoleman.io/bip39/) to generate the addresses/private keys... HOWEVER, this is not a "one click" method... It is a very manual process and it will require you to install Python and a relatively "user friendly" Python script to extract the 12 word seed... and then inputting the seed into the BIP39 tool and manually looking for addresses/private keys. I originally wrote about this method here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1997031.msg20002671#msg20002671 It is reproduced below, with some edits for clarity... You will need: 1. gurnec's decrypt_bitcoinj_seed Python script (decrypt_bitcoinj_seed) - You will need to follow his install instructions! 2. Your "Bitcoin Wallet for Android" backup file 3. The password for your "Bitcoin Wallet for Android" backup file 4. An offline copy of Ian Coleman's BIP39 Tool (https://iancoleman.io/bip39/) - Instructions for "Offline Usage" at the bottom of the page IMPORTANT NOTICE: First things first... aka "Scary Warning Time": You are going to be exposing your seed and private keys... if you have any malware/tojan's/clipboard copiers/keyloggers etc, there is a very real chance you will lose Bitcoins. DO NOT follow this process unless you understand the risks involved and are willing to accept them! Once you have the necessary items: 1. You should make sure your computer is NOT connected to any network and has been scanned for viruses/trojans/malware etc... or better yet, use a LiveCD/USB to boot from 2. Run the decrypt_bitcoinj_seed script (as per gurnec's instructions), it will prompt you to open the wallet backup file, then prompt you for the password. It will then display the "12 word seed mnemonic". Make a note of this! 3. You can then put the recovery seed into an offline copy of: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ There are instructions at the bottom of the page for downloading etc Put the seed into the "BIP39 Mnemonic" section at the top. Then click "BIP32" under Derivation Path, set "Client" to "Custom Derivation Path" and set the "BIP32 Derivation Path" to: m/0'/0 All your "RECEIVE" addresses/keys will be displayed at the bottom. NOTE: You may need to click "show more" to see all your addresses if you have used more than 20 receive addresses... 4. If you're wondering why you can't find any of your coins on these addresses, chances are that they are sitting on "CHANGE" addresses, so after you have checked all the "Receive" addresses that you have used, you'll also need to set the "BIP32 Derivation Path" to: m/0'/1 to get access to your "CHANGE" addresses! Again, you may need to click "show more" to see all your "Change" addresses, if you have sent more than 20 transactions and used more than 20 change addresses.

7705

Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Cant seem to get it to work?

on: November 08, 2017, 12:04:54 AM

Quote from: bryonp on November 07, 2017, 10:47:58 PM I think I found them in a hidden folder under users... If I get them I will post it. Sounds like Windows... your Armory logs will be in: C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Armory If you cannot see "AppData" refer here: https://support.microsoft.com/help/14201/windows-show-hidden-files Pastebin = https://pastebin.com/ Open armorylog.txt with a text editor (like Notepad)... Then Copy/Paste the entire contents of armorylog.txt into the textbox at PasteBin and click "Create New Paste"... The page will refresh with a URL that has a unique code (like this: https://pastebin.com/iKQ65X3a)... Note down the whole URL and then do the same thing with the dblog.txt file Then post the URL's for your two pastebin's here... Quote from: bryonp on November 07, 2017, 09:58:49 PM Can I ask you please, if I get the private keys out what can I do? Import to any wallet? Yes, you will be able to import them to another wallet... in your case, I would suggest a lightweight "SPV" wallet like Electrum.

7706

Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger Nano S and Segwit2x

on: November 07, 2017, 11:14:45 PM

You should also probably mention that the "legacy" wallet is simply the original Bitcoin wallet... it produces "1" type addresses, that are compatible with pretty much ALL Bitcoin wallets/services and also allows for message signing and easy exporting of private keys if required. Unlike SegWit ones... Use of SegWit does not necessarily guarantee faster confirmation times unless miners are prioritising SegWit transactions... but it should help reduce the size (and therefore fee) of a transaction to a certain extent.

7707

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: getting the private keys from an android electrum wallet set up with a seed

on: November 07, 2017, 11:09:11 PM

1. You can't see private keys on the Android app, you can only see the Seed. You can convert the seed to private keys, but it isn't easy and requires some technical knowledge to modify the BIP39 Mnemonic Code Convertor (https://iancoleman.io/bip39/) to work with Electrum seeds. 2. Yes, install the Android version of Electron Cash (https://electroncash.org/#download) and restore your wallet using the seed. Electron Cash is the BCH fork of Electrum, so is compatible with Electrum seeds. EDIT: Sorry, mis-read your original post, I thought it said you were trying to claim "Bitcoin Cash"... 2. Bitcoin Gold Dev's are apparently going to release a fork of Electrum that will be compatible with Bitcoin Gold (refer "Next Steps" here: https://bitcoingold.org/replay-protection-development/) I also note that BTG is going live on Nov 12... not sure when they will release the Electrum fork though...

7708

Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Higher fees importing vanity addresses?

on: November 07, 2017, 10:59:45 PM

Quote from: realsteelboy on November 07, 2017, 02:12:39 PM It's strange, I consider myself a bit of an expert on most things Bitcoin. In terms of security and wallet management etc. I have just never come up against this before. I normally just sweep cold wallets into an online wallet when needed. Quote from: realsteelboy on November 07, 2017, 12:06:23 PM Yeah, it has had 155 transactions is for a total of 2.25 BTC You consider yourself an expert on Bitcoin security and you're attempting to put 2.25 BTC onto Blockchain.info? That's the opposite of both "expert" and "security" Quote from: realsteelboy on November 07, 2017, 02:10:38 PM How do i choose which inputs i send?? You can't select inputs on Blockchain.info... it has no coin-control features. B.info is a "Bitcoin for Dummies" wallet, where they make it as simple as possible for faucet collectors and cloud miners to pay outrageous fees to move their 10's/100's of dust sized transactions to whatever HYIP site they're trying to lose their coins on - If you have already swept the coins in b.info, your only way out is to just send them all to a "proper" wallet like Bitcoin Core or Electrum... and hope that the "custom fee" thing in b.info is still working... set a fee of at least 11 sats/byte or 0.00010001 BTC/kB (to allow for transaction size errors) and then use transaction accelerators like ViaBTC and AntPool. - If you just imported the private key, then all is not lost... simply install and setup Bitcoin Core or Electrum and import the vanity address private key there and you'll have access to the coin control features and custom fees. If you want lightweight like an "online" wallet but with access to advanced features (custom fees + coin control etc) then get Electrum.

7709

Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question concerning PKeys of Bitcoins

on: November 07, 2017, 10:43:09 PM

Quote from: the.Phil on November 07, 2017, 02:30:28 PM I think that I start to get it. So wrapping it up this means the following - could you please confirm this? -> Buy 20 BTCs -> Transfer to Exodus Wallet This Wallet has got a public as well as a private key. Thus all 20 BTCs have got the same private key. -> Transfer of 5 BTCs to Ledger wallet The Ledger Wallet has got a different public and a different private key than the Exodus wallet. Thus 5 of my total coins have got a different private key (the new one) than the other 15 on the Exodus wallet. This is correct so far Quote -> Retrieve 15 BCH (the ones that are still on the Exodus wallet) -> Retrieve 5 BCH (the ones that are on the Ledger wallet) This may be incorrect given that you stated you have not setup your ledger yet. If you bought 20 BTC before Aug 1st... but you transferred the 5 BTC to ledger AFTER Aug 1st then it will be: -> Retrieve 20 BCH (they are all still on the private key from Exodus wallet... they DO NOT move with BTC transferred AFTER Aug 1st) If you bought 20 BTC before Aug 1st... and transferred 5 BTC to ledger BEFORE Aug 1st then it will be as you suggested: -> Retrieve 15 BCH (the ones that are still on the Exodus wallet) -> Retrieve 5 BCH (the ones that are on the Ledger wallet)

7710

Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Seuntjie' Dice bot programmers mode discussion.

on: November 07, 2017, 10:32:09 PM

Quote from: kostas159 on November 07, 2017, 09:55:43 PM

I added 2 more lvls but when a 9 streak lose it doesn recognise that i go to 4th sub-balance and keeps multiplying the last bet! Why is it doing this!

You have the "if currentstreak == -9" statement INSIDE the "if currentstreak == -3" block... so that code will never trigger, as it can't be -3 and -9 at the same time! Tongue

You should really learn to properly indent and align your code, so it is easier to see the code "blocks"... properly indented your code looks like this:

Code:

enablersc=true
enablezz=true
chance=6.15 --sets your chance for placing a bet
nextbet=0.00000001 --sets your first bet.
basebet=0.00000001 -- moved to only set once
currentbase = basebet -- save the current base bet
sub = 1 -- flag to indicate we are using 2nd sub-balance


function dobet()

  if profit > 0.00000030 then
    resetstats()
    currentbase = basebet -- reset to base bet
    sub = 1 -- made our profit, reset to 1st sub-balance
  end
  
  if win then
    nextbet=currentbase -- reset to the current base
  else
    nextbet=previousbet*2.67
    
    if currentstreak==-3 or currentstreak == -6 then
      if sub == 1 then
        sub = 2
        nextbet=0.00000002
        currentbase = nextbet -- save current base
      else
        sub = 3
        --already betting 2nd sub-balance, move to 3rd sub-balance
        nextbet = 0.00000003
        currentbase = nextbet -- save current base end 
    

        if currentstreak==-9 or currentstreak == -12 then
          if sub == 3 then
            sub = 4
            nextbet=0.00000004
            currentbase = nextbet -- save current base
          else
            sub = 5
            --already betting 2nd sub-balance, move to 3rd sub-balance
            nextbet = 0.00000005
            currentbase = nextbet -- save current base
          end
        
        end
      
      end
    
    end

  end

It actually looks like you're missing an "end" statement?? I assume the app is interpreting some of your if blocks in an unexpected way. Anyway, by looking at properly indented code, you can see how your IF statements are nest incorrectly... and your if currentstreak==-9 is in the wrong place... I'm guessing it should probably be something like this:

Code:

enablersc=true
enablezz=true
chance=6.15 --sets your chance for placing a bet
nextbet=0.00000001 --sets your first bet.
basebet=0.00000001 -- moved to only set once
currentbase = basebet -- save the current base bet
sub = 1 -- flag to indicate we are using 2nd sub-balance


function dobet()

  if profit > 0.00000030 then
    resetstats()
    currentbase = basebet -- reset to base bet
    sub = 1 -- made our profit, reset to 1st sub-balance
  end
  
  if win then
    nextbet=currentbase -- reset to the current base
  else
    nextbet=previousbet*2.67
    
    if currentstreak==-3 or currentstreak == -6 then
      if sub == 1 then
        sub = 2
        nextbet=0.00000002
        currentbase = nextbet -- save current base
      else
        sub = 3
        --already betting 2nd sub-balance, move to 3rd sub-balance
        nextbet = 0.00000003
        currentbase = nextbet -- save current base end 
      end
    
    elseif currentstreak==-9 or currentstreak == -12 then
      if sub == 3 then
        sub = 4
        nextbet=0.00000004
        currentbase = nextbet -- save current base
      else
        sub = 5
        --already betting 2nd sub-balance, move to 3rd sub-balance
        nextbet = 0.00000005
        currentbase = nextbet -- save current base
      end

    end

  end
    
end

7711

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Will Electrum support the coming B2x fork?

on: November 07, 2017, 10:12:40 PM

Quote from: Itty Bitty on November 07, 2017, 05:09:02 PM 1) Go to https://coinb.in/#newTransaction - this I can manage to do 2) Copy paste an address I want to spend - can do 3) Click "Advanced options" - Total success 4) I can now see the nLockTime, RBF, etc., but as you may expect, I don't know what to do here, and I don't want to lose my coins if I do something wrong Personally, I would make sure that RBF is selected, as it allowed you to bump the fee if the transaction gets stuck (and you have enough change leftover in the transaction to increase it) As for nLockTime, well that is simply a matter of figuring out what nLockTime you want... as per the docs, you either use a value less than 500,000,000 to specify a block height that the transaction should be "locked" until, or a number greater than 500,000,000 is calculated as "Unix Epoch Time" (number of seconds since 1st Jan 1970)... So if, you put nLockTime = 0 (the default for most wallets)... then the transaction is not locked at all... if you put 495000 it will be "locked" until block# 495000 is mined... Quote 5) Generated hex - I assume I'll see some gobbledy-gook on my screen after generating "unsigned" transaction, and that will be the generated hex Correct, as you've ONLY pasted the "address" and not a private key, coinb.in can ONLY create an "unsigned" transaction... when you click the submit button on coinb.in, it'll simply display a textbox with a bunch of hex... like this: Code: 0100000001bc284061e32979e218b470d8a4676222c5391806cd0dc6a2e582025e880a1616000000006a47304402205dc6f38f650444815f3fca2bb4e6e66c9f9b76d7cf8ee1734d696e98cd3f68740220225d7d31a91344bc4c6ad6f8cfa69fbfd0cb1329391c73076c704b1b3b2cae630121031232d3a27097ca423e3f0b5498416ac30fbad385334ee2306cae2c5de7b6e70effffffff02006a1800000000001976a91449f6714af5764cde99bcab77128971c12ea27f8388ac2c1a0000000000001976a914c439defaa3d4bab40104f42a06faf4d7b404c9ec88ac00000000 Quote 6) Load the generated hex into electrum - How, where, when, why...etc. Don't want to lose my coins if I mess something up the first time I try 7) Verify it, sign it, and broadcast it - How, when, where, why...etc..Don't want to lose my coins if I mess something up the first time I try (when sending a transaction normally, I just press "send" - same here?) - In Electrum: "Tools -> Load Transaction -> From Text" - Copy/Paste the "hex" and then click OK - It will display a typical "preview" window, showing the inputs, outputs, fee used, transaction size (and nLockTime if specified) By "Verify"... I mean just look at the information Electrum is showing you and double check you have it all correct... check you're using the inputs you want to use and are creating the outputs you want (ie. sending to the correct address(es) "Sign" and "Broadcast" are easy... just click the "sign" button... enter your wallet password... the only thing that will happen is the "status" should change from "Unsigned" to "Signed" and the size might change by a byte or 2. At this stage, if you are 100% happy, you click "Broadcast" and the transaction is sent to the network... or you click "close" and the transaction is destroyed and NOT sent. Quote 8 ) Manually calculate and specify "change" address and payout - oh Lord....not "the catch"! Pretty simple... if there is going to be any change (and there really shouldn't be if you're wanting to send ALL your coins)... you simply copy a "change" address from your old wallet (could even be one of your input addresses if you don't care about address re-use etc)... Coinb.in simply calculates the "transaction fee" for you... but using the difference between "Total Inputs" and "Total Outputs"... you just need to make sure that you leave enough difference to create a "decent" transaction fee. Remember, miners care about "sats per byte" or "btc per kilobyte" fee RATE... not the total size of the fee! Honestly, if you're concerned about using this process, I would suggest you practice with some small amounts of BTC first (or maybe try using TestNet? although I'm not sure that coinb.in allows you to create testnet transactions... I couldn't get it to work) And if you're not comfortable doing that, then you just need to sit on your hands (and your coins) until the "Dummy's guide to B2X" comes out... By doing NOTHING, you will be guaranteed not to lose any coins... at worst, you'll lose some $$$ as the price of the coins dumps

7712

Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Exporting private keys from old Core Wallet

on: November 07, 2017, 09:42:16 PM

Quote from: Sanglotslongs2 on November 07, 2017, 08:04:40 PM Are you sure of that ? On core 1 private key can have several address. Technically, each HEX private key can be used to generate 2 addresses (compressed/uncompressed)... as far as I'm aware, Bitcoin Core currently deals only in compressed addresses... and when you dump the WIF keys, a WIF key has a 1:1 relationship with an address. The WIF starts with either "5" = uncompressed or it starts with a "K" or "L" = compressed. Unless you're referring to xprvs... aka "Master Private Key"... which are derived from the "seed".

7713

Bitcoin / Armory / Re: New to Armory, please help

on: November 07, 2017, 11:50:43 AM

Quote from: neilwy on November 06, 2017, 05:58:19 PM Quote from: droark on November 06, 2017, 04:14:44 PM What versions of Core and Armory are you running? Also, please post your logs. Thanks! Any clues? Yes, you need to update your version of Armory. The one you are using (Version 0.96-beta-a3d01aa722) is VERY old. Get v0.96.4 RC1 - https://github.com/goatpig/BitcoinArmory/releases/tag/v0.96.3.99

7714

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Warning about portable versions

on: November 07, 2017, 11:43:56 AM

You have several options: 1. Upgrade your operating system... it is horribly outdated 2. Downgrade to v2.9.3... v3.0.0 has issues with older versions of windows (it only runs on Windows 10) 3. Try and use the newly released v3.0.1... it had some fixes to try and fix the issues v3.x is having on older windows, but you might need to install some windows updates: Quote from: https://electrum.org/#download Note: Some old versions of Windows might need to install the KB2999226 Windows update. EDIT: I've tested v3.0.1 on Windows 7... got the Python35.dll error... then I installed the latest VC++ redist package (I used Visual Studio 2017 package from here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads) and that fixed the error!

7715

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: downgrade from 3.0.0 to 2.9.3

on: November 07, 2017, 11:41:02 AM

You can simply downgrade to version 2.9.3... the wallet format is only upgraded when you actually run v3.x and click the "OK" button when it warns about the wallet file upgrade. As your version is crashing on startup with the python error, your wallet file will not have been touched. You can safely install v2.9.3 and everything will be OK. In other news, v3.0.1 has been released... which might help fix the Windows 7 issues... Quote from: https://electrum.org/#download Note: Some old versions of Windows might need to install the KB2999226 Windows update.

7716

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Caution! Fake electrum scam website!!!

on: November 07, 2017, 11:36:44 AM

Quote from: hlissnake on November 07, 2017, 03:37:24 AM Hi, I have been stolen the 10 bitcoins in my electrum wallet!! Because I have used a fake application or malware that coming from electrumdesktop.org, and I think there is another fake scam website: electrumbitcoin.org Please be careful, or we can find out those scam website publisher. Guess they're happy with their 10+ BTC... neither of those domains seem to be operational at the moment. Quote from: hlissnake on November 07, 2017, 03:37:24 AM Also, I found an interesting thing here: I've followed the thief's transaction flow. And finally found my balance has flowed into this three address: https://blockchain.info/address/1BvTQTP5PJVCEz7dCU2YxgMskMxxikSruM https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P https://blockchain.info/address/1NoHmhqw9oTh7nNKsa5Dprjt3dva3kF1ZG They are all such a huge amount bitcoins address. Is that possible that they are exchange service account? Is there any way to ask each exchange service to verify if those addresses belong to them? with the policeman's help Either exchanges or gambling websites... they're generally the two biggest. Sure you can ask an exchange if the address belongs to them... most will likely ignore you, or after waiting for 3 weeks for their support to answer you question they'll tell you they can't give out that information. Whether or not the police can or will do anything... sort of depends on the jurisdiction/locale of yourself, the exchange and the law enforcement agency... I wouldn't expect your local police department to care about "imaginary internet money" on an exchange in China (unless you happen to be China of course )

7717

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum change addresses when importing private keys

on: November 07, 2017, 11:27:04 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 07, 2017, 05:05:50 AM i don't know where the notion of "change" address came from since these addresses have no difference with the rest! they are just categorized under another category! but Electrum is designed this way possibly to create a feeling of normal ways like fiat and "change". Under BIP32/44... the addresses actually belong to a slightly different chain on the derivation path... as they have the concept of "External" addresses (ie. receive) and "Internal" addresses (ie. change). m / purpose' / coin_type' / account' / change / address_index So for instance... your external addresses are on: m/44'/0'/0'/0 and your internal addresses are on m/44'/0'/0'/1

7718

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: electrum to electroncash dissappearing bitcoin

on: November 07, 2017, 11:18:57 AM

Did you import or sweep the BTC from your paperwallet to Electrum? If you used "sweep" then you BCH is still on your old paper wallet... if you used "import", then it should theoretically be there, but I suspect the subsequent transaction moving the "BTC" might be confusing Electron Cash. Simply import your old paper wallet private key directly into an Electron Cash wallet and your BCH should be available

7719

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Will Electrum support the coming B2x fork?

on: November 07, 2017, 11:06:55 AM

Quote from: illinest on November 07, 2017, 08:34:19 AM ... I wish I could figure out how to use nLocktime in Electrum via the command line. I have a rough idea of how to construct the transaction, but I'm not comfortable doing the hex encoding myself. Still waiting for some documentation on this. You don't need to really figure out how to do the hex encoding... just create an "unsigned" transaction using coinb.in (https://coinb.in/#newTransaction)... You can even use a downloaded offline copy of Coinb.in if you're super paranoid. After you have copy/pasted in the addresses containing the inputs you want to spend (PROTIP: use the "Coins" tab in Electrum to see where your UTXOs are)... then click the "Advanced Options" and you have the ability to specify the nLockTime, RBF etc... then load the generated hex into Electrum, verify it, sign it and broadcast it... easy The only catch that I can see, is that you need to manually calculate and specify the "change" address and payout... but that's not exactly difficult

7720

Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Android issue

on: November 07, 2017, 10:49:54 AM

No. - Importing a private key will import only one address. - Importing a seed, will import an entire chain of addresses, generated from the seed, using the given Derivation Path. I'm not sure what you mean by "or it is also applicable from electrum > other wallets?"... are you asking of you can move an Electrum seed to other wallets? If so, the answer is no... Electrum does not use BIP39 compatible seeds like most other wallets. However, Electrum can import BIP39 compatible seeds from other wallets... so in summary: Import Private Key is not the same as Import seed. Electrum seed -> Other Wallet = Not Possible Other wallet seed -> Electrum = Possible

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