Aye-Aye Sir!

Thanks for putting the poll up, glad to have it over and done with.



Now we can get back to posting pictures of the moon!

I'm not smoothie, but I know he likes at least two of the legitimate altcoins on the list in my signature.   

Long live CryptoCoin!   

I like "some" of AM's posts too.  That's why *I am* being nice to him.  My friendly banter provided a platform to discuss himself, a favorite activity, with relish.

aminorex was being mean, so I diffused the conflict with some humor.   

Heh, the Martyr Complex is quite strong in this one. 

I think the reasoning goes something like this:

Prophets are always persecuted, genius is always misunderstood.  AM is a genius and a prophet, so he is both persecuted and misunderstood.

Oh, poor little him!  How the cryptosphere weeps!  Even Master Satoshi, ascendent in exulted Bit-Valhalla, sheds a tear...   

Bwah-ha-ha-ha!  Well played, old smooth.   

dga's blog post is a great factual article about the history of Monero.  If some geeky kid with a massive conflict of interest accidentally misinterprets/intentionally misrepresents it, that's not our problem.

And pa, How Dare You^TM mention other coins in our narrow-minded Monero-only thread?  Don't you know how much butthurt will flow through the partisans if you even allude to the existence of Monero's Cryptonote siblings?

You must say 100 Hail Tacos for writing the forbidden letters ('bee bee are') in this sanctum sanctorum of the One True CN implementation.  Even speaking of [bee tee see] is completely off-topic, don'tcha know?   

I don't get the whole DarkPodTelePort idea (something about pirate maps  ) but I *think* the key advantage to subsuming BBR/XMR within James's convoluted ambitious trendy Blockchain 2.0 scheme is that we may be able to achieve the Holy Grail of distributed exchanges.

I'd love to use a P2P exchange, but we need to let the kids know doing that is a fuck of a problem and many attempts are in progress/have failed already.

It's possible that Ripple, Counterparty, and ViaCoin/Clearinghouse already did it, but nobody understood/noticed/cared WTF there are talking about  

I going to check out Joel Katz' recent posts and try to figure what's what and who's who in the brave new world of IntelliChains.

I wasn't the first to complain about the name, nor was I immediately receptive to the idea of changing it.

And nobody ever said we're changing the name "just because MINI-BLOCKCHAIN + BITCOIN = MINICOIN."

Rather, we wish to gauge community support for a re-brand because of the inconvenient naming collisions with Cryptonote, Kryptonite, etc.

I'm happy about lots of things (EG Bitcoin, Monero, Boolberry, and MiniCoin's potential), and I wasn't the first to question the execution of the poll.

You are an intensely dishonest person polanskiman.  You intentionally misrepresented my positions in no less than three ways in a single post.

If you can't debate what was actually said and have to distort the record, it's an admission that your side of the argument is lacking substantive merit.

If AnonyMint appreciated that fact instead of being such a defeatist Negative Nancy all the time, he might have been able to get some $10 BTC back when you told him to, instead of bumbling from crisis to crisis.   

In other altcoin news, XCN is enjoying a healthy rally.  The rebranding opportunity and this


may be helping.

There are (at last count) THREE other coins pronounced and/or spelled exactly like Cryptonite.  Two are dead, one is very much alive. 

I'm shocked there is not yet a 'KryptoNight' and 'CryptoKnite.'  Well, give it a day or two and they will pop up... 

Kryptonite  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606682.0
Cyptonite - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700039.0
CryptoKnight - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274766.0

Now you clearly have to change your vote to MiniCoin.   



I'm OK with 'MiniChain' but having a '-coin' suffix is an advantage.  We play with coins as children and this grounding experience provides a rich conceptual field from which we can create metaphors to apply to non-physical crypto currencies.  It's also nice to share/inherit the BitCoin family naming convention.

A name like "Crypton" does not invoke that very descriptive and useful 'coin' schema/vocabulary.  Plus it sounds like the crappy old unstable planet where Superman's family and entire race (minus Zod and Supergirl) died horribly.

Is today's price spike a result of this renaming controversy, or this?


In less than 48 hours, the days of cheap and easy MiniCoins will be a thing of the past!

1) Please make a script to install ^this^ on Debian/Ubuntu, like the normal [git clone git://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero && cd bitmonero && make] one.

2) Don't forget DDOS protection!  If your pool is a success, people will try to nuke it from orbit.  KoDDOS.com takes BTC, maybe you can get them to take XMR.

3) A Hall of Fame for block solvers is always nice, as are teams.  If you are very ambitious, a tech support hot line would be helpful.

4) Be sure to pass on some XMR to the dev fund.  You could even make the % user-adjustable.

EDIT ONE: 5) Make it hop-proof with PPLNS or whatever.

EDIT TWO: 6) 2FA for security.

   OK, this is just getting ridiculous!  Have we covered every possible permutation yet?  Is there a Cript O'Nyte lurking out there too?   

So at last count there are THREE coins (one dead, two alive) with a name that is phonetically identical, plus almost identical CyptonOte's POW, which is also another Cryptonight.

Tell me more about how there are no naming collisions... 

Regardless of outcome, I appreciate BF putting the poll up.  But it seems hasty to conduct it over a long holiday weekend, and without a proper run-off to narrow down the best two candidates. 

If BF wanted to make sure nothing changed, a sudden holiday poll that dilutes undesired votes for a different name among multiple challengers (including 'OTHER') would be a good way to do it.  I don't think that was intentional, but the optics stink. 

We should have a run off between the top two, after everyone gets back/comes down from Burning Man.

That's true.  As long as you don't count CryptoKnight - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274766.0

PS Vote for MiniCoin - Because It's Good Enough^TM

Glad you enjoyed my creative writings.  Didn't mean to accuse you of thought policing, just wanted to crack a silly joke to lighten the mood and stir the pot.

The great thing about open source is that we don't have to trust DL nor anybody else.  The code is the code, personalities are just a sideshow.

I agree about hlod and let hlod.  EG, when a certain pool operator started feeling and acting entitled to the work of private mining software creators, I left his pool and never looked back.  I didn't milk the event for drama, I just did it.  That my new pool worked much better was just gravy on top!

We individualists are superior to socialists, and can afford to indulge them when convenient.  Try to be compassionate and raise them up.  It's to all of our benefit that they be gently deprogrammed and repurposed for the common good.  Consider them raw materials and refine as needed!   

Many brilliant coders are socialists.  They are over-specialized in one domain to the detriment of others.  Vanishingly few of us can be true Renaissance Men like Leonardo da Vinci or Satoshi Nakamoto.

Don't worry about it.  They will learn and evolve, in time.  Or they will perish in the aftermath of petrodollar collapse.

In either case, micromanaging the beliefs of others is not a very libertarian activity.  That's the biggest flaw of the Randroids and many anarchists.

Oops, yes I meant XCN - see what BF made me do?  It's almost as if he enjoys confusing us imbeciles.   

*ducks*

 

Fixed it for you.  Not sure why you accidentally forgot to mention BBR.  I'm sure it wasn't on purpose!   

I regret not participating in the naming conversation earlier this summer, so I could have concurred with smooth on this point.

But the scumbag accusation is too harsh.  BF isn't a scumbag, he's just being stubborn (which is a *good* thing) and reaching for reasons to avoid doing something that's a hassle and costs time needed for other projects.


You don't see why that's so bad?  Umm, it's bad because Reasons and stuff...  

I already crossposted an on-point example of why, from another thread where I tried to tell a noob about XCN and he automatically and understandably lumped XCN in with BBR and XMR.

XCN has fantastic technology that BBR/XMR can't match - mini-blockchain and unmalleable zero-confirmation safe transactions.

There is no (Great) reason to let those amazing unique qualities be obfuscated by undue association with the CryptonOte coins.

Please take off your #1 MBC Guy Hat, and look at the situation from the POV of an intelligent but underinformed noob.  I don't like seeing this great project needlessly hobbled by an entirely avoidable cases of mistaken identity.

At this still-very-early point the confusion is already actual, not theoretical.  When XCN becomes more well known, the confusion will be 1000 times worse.

You've done a perfect job of shepherding XMR XCN development so far and it pains me to see you making an unforced branding error.  Nobody can be an expert in everything.  Stand firm on technical issues, but consider listening to the chorus with regards to marketing and be flexible in your response.