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7741  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Consolidation of mixed outputs on: May 28, 2022, 07:20:40 AM
even if we were to go with the assumption that a said government will go as far as doing what you suggested
Unless they're chasing a specific money flow, I don't expect government to dig this deep. Here, it's quite simpel: when you sell a substantial amount of Bitcoin for fiat on your bank account, they'll ask you where the money came from. It's up to you to explain the money is legit.
Banks have to report "unusual transactions", after which government doesn't really know what to do with them (link in Dutch).

I'm not trying to hide transactions from government, they want to know far too much from me already. But I'm still careful selecting which inputs to link together.
7742  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Silent payments on: May 27, 2022, 09:05:05 AM
After reading it a few times, I think I'm starting to understand it. I would add another Con: something very simple suddenly becomes very complicated.
7743  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Lightning network - How to join it? on: May 27, 2022, 07:52:15 AM
1) i run c-lightning, which requires a full node... But i hear a lot of people using electrum, or even a phone wallet like "wallet of satoshi" or "bluewallet" since we're talking about very small amounts (don't keep large amounts on a phone wallet!!!!)
I consider c-lightning more as a LN node than a wallet, as it has no GUI interface that makes it easy to open the wallet and send an invoice. It's way too easy to mess up with RPC commands.
True, but on the other hand, they released RTL just for this purpose: being a wallet gui on top of c-lightning Wink
That may be a bit much for someone who comes here to ask which wallet to use. After trying several wallets, I came to the conclusion that manual channel opening is less convenient than "automatic" wallets. And that's coming from someone who prefers manual coin control for all on-chain transactions.
Note that this only applies to small amounts. I wouldn't risk anything substantial this way. The amounts are so small, I even use phone wallets without password for convenience.
7744  Economy / Reputation / Re: What to do if this happens? on: May 26, 2022, 12:26:19 PM
To Resolve your concerns about Newbie (scamers) account posting POA on another bounty campaign/same bounty campaign using your data information
This reminds me: a few years back, there were bounty spammers who used many established usernames for Google Docs  spam. That was before the "proof of authentication" BS, which meant they could just pretend to be (amongst others) me.
7745  Economy / Reputation / Re: What to do if this happens? on: May 26, 2022, 10:10:01 AM
you only have to prove the opposite of what they say
You can't prove you didn't do something. It's like trying to prove The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist. You can't! See Wiki on Falsifiability. Even on Bitcointalk, "innocent until proven guilty" should apply.
Before accusing someone, you should ask yourself if it could happen to you. Anyone can post my address and say they're me. As long as I don't confirm it, you shouldn't believe them.
7746  Economy / Reputation / Re: What to do if this happens? on: May 25, 2022, 08:27:40 PM
1. They could use a newbie account to post of POA with the same telegram address and username that I have used in other bounty campaigns.
If someone posts 1NXYoJ5xU91Jp83XfVMHwwTUyZFK64BoAD as their address, that doesn't make them theymos.

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If this happens how I will show I am not guilty?
You can't. That's why it's useless evidence, don't worry about it. As long as you don't do bad things, there can't be evidence.
7747  Economy / Services / Re: LoyceV's Avatar for Rent [first 🦊🦊🦊3 YEARS🦊🦊🦊 (165 weeks) rented out] on: May 25, 2022, 08:14:44 PM
I think your kids-taming capabilities are well beyond exceptional.
You have no idea Cheesy
7748  Economy / Services / Re: LoyceV's Avatar for Rent [first 🦊🦊🦊3 YEARS🦊🦊🦊 (165 weeks) rented out] on: May 25, 2022, 06:34:37 PM
If I will ever gain the access to flux capacitators, I will use them to travel back in time, at a random Wednesday, 6:10 PM, and see LoyceV taming his kids win bed at the most improbable time.
That's not my time zone (I wish!). They were in past 8 here, because schools are closed tomorrow.
7749  Economy / Services / Re: LoyceV's Avatar for Rent [first 🦊🦊🦊3 YEARS🦊🦊🦊 (165 weeks) rented out] on: May 25, 2022, 06:20:18 PM
Thanks again for your flawless timing! Kids are in bed, I'm out of excuses, so here I am, not even a second late (I hope) Cheesy
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7750  Other / Meta / Re: Unified Proof of Authentication Post thread on: May 25, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
Proof of authentication posts is required on a bounty campaign so we (as bounty managers) know the authenticity of the application
That's not necessary, the Eth/whatever address they post can easily be added to the user's profile, which you can scrape, so there's no need to post anything.
Or, let them fill out everything in a Google Form, and give them a confirmation code (say 9035998262876336, random for each user of course) to post in their profile to confirm they own the account.

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kinda like a cross-reference between the Google form registration, what we see on the spreadsheet and the actual details of the account.
I checked your topics, and it's mainly Newbies spamming the useless "authentication" posts. If you use an external spreadsheet, what does their Bitcointalk username even matter?

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Now that those threads are still open, many bounty hunters still post their weekly reports on them neglecting simple instructions (same examples above).
Make them self-moderated and delete the spam.

For what it's worth: I appreciate what you're trying to do.
7751  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Can you explain the tutorial of Chip Mixer btc will compensate on: May 25, 2022, 01:03:20 PM
I have been trying to understand the workings of Chip mixer.  I have seen a couple of videos, but there were some things that still
unclear. please provide some clarification, in LAYMAN terms please. I willing to make a donation.
Here's a complete guide.
https://darkneSCAMSCAMSCAMtone.com/how-to-use-chipmixer-a-complete-guide/
Please remove the link to that scam site. It links several times to a .pro website, which will no doubt steal your money.

For the record: the real chipmixer websites can be found here:
Don't trust my quote on it, verify the source of the post. Download and install Tor browser, go to the .onion site (remember: chipmix or fly kuxu ..... id.onion), and bookmark it to prevent phising. Don't Google the website, it will give you phishing sites.
7752  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [List] VanityGen Wallet Generation - threads, how to & links - [MODERATED] on: May 25, 2022, 10:49:37 AM
Just adding the comment that yes I do use vanity addresses, but there are privacy concerns to keep in the back of your head due to address reuse.
They're great for public usage, say a donation address or a payment address from an online service.

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Or even just similar addresses. If I generate 1000 addresses that start 1DaveF and just use those it's going to make someones life who would want to track me easier.
That works both ways: you can use a popular vanity address to make it look like it's owned by someone else.

I won't post them, but I found 55 addresses with "1DaveF". Some not even at the beginning (and this list isn't complete):
Code:
17pPCGgp1davefJpTqv1TgSLFnXL3b9Bjb
3QDhTb5TMxBZV2ijaXxtV77RRMgh1daVef
7753  Other / Meta / Re: Avatar is not displayed correctly on: May 25, 2022, 10:31:24 AM
Try a hard refresh: CTRL-F5.

It works fine here.
7754  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why not tag all bounty hunters? on: May 25, 2022, 08:56:16 AM
I see it different, sorry.
I see it like cleaning the dust in the house, although knowing that more will come in.
I see it like cleaning the leaves, although knowing that, especially in the autumn, there will be the same mess again.
Making your surroundings more pleasant or at least bearable (not necessarily/not only for yourself) is not not really futile.
But if you only manage to clean up 2% of the dust and leaves in a certain area, there's really no point in even trying. Just give up on the place, and keep the rest of your house decent. That's why I still report the bounty spammers when they shitpost on the tech boards.
7755  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why not tag all bounty hunters? on: May 25, 2022, 08:10:20 AM
At least their "work" on the forum can be limited by reporting the spam posts. I'm almost sure that they are not happy when they see their posts getting deleted. And we have to keep the forum clean (of course, between the limits on what's possible).
It seems like fighting bots doing mindless tasks. I did a count in my posts archive. Facebook is mentioned 19.8 million times, Twitter 30.9 million times. This probably includes double counting the links, but even without that it's still staggering number considering the forum only has 60 million posts in total and I haven't included posts that were deleted in the first 10 years. And it's even allowed, so although useless, reporting is futile.
(counting the Facebook and Twitter posts took a lot longer than I expected, hence my late reply)

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So yes, you're pretty much correct, but I don't think that anything is going to change.
Thanks. I tried Wink

you may have wanted to say this politically correct.
That doesn't sound like me Tongue

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I would say that the biggest blame here comes from bounty managers.
Let's check the last 5 bounty topics on patrol:
Created by a Copper Newbie
Created by a Legendary with many earned Merits
Created by a Full Member
Created by a Jr. Member with negative feedback
Created by a Sr. Member who barely earned any Merit
4 out of 5 have (almost) nothing to lose.

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so the question is if you are one of the top groups and start a business, would run a bounty program like these currently running?
Anyone with a real idea pays pays for advertising in Bitcoin, not in made-up tokens. If they spend real money, they care for the quality they get.

I must admit the bounty section in particular is a completely different kettle of fish.
It always feels like a loophole on the low-quality posts, to spam the same "proof of authentication" posts in many different topics. Or the competely useless Facebook, Twitter and Telegram posts. Years ago, on-forum altcoin giveaways were banned for the exact same reason, and that's why they now use this even more useless system of linking to social media posts. I'm not buying the explanation that spamming Twitter is not a low-effort task.

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I don't think it'll ever get implemented, as it's rather restrictive. However, I'd like to see some restrictions put in place where only x merit or activity can post in the bounty section. That way, you'd reduce the endless alt accounts, unless of course they build up over time.
That would largely reduce the spam, but indeed, I don't think this will be implemented.

Our only concern is keeping the forum clean and making sure no one is using multiple accounts to cheat, and whatever the projects turn out to be in the future is still none of our business.
I disagree. To me, 10 people spamming with 1 account each gives the same result as 1 person spamming with 10 accounts. But the future of most bounty projects is scamming gullible "investors". I'd say it's our business if Bitcointalk is being used to promote scams. They've earned billions from ICO-scams already and are no doubt still earning a lot of money. Meanwhile, we tag people for scams that are a million times smaller.

Eddie13 made some very good points:
I’m glad y’all saved sooooo many imbeciles from getting “scammed” by shutting that entire thriving economy down..

Oh right, the morons probably just threw their (saved from scam) money at one of the great 2017 ICOs instead..
I’m sure their filthy rich now thanks to all that saving grace..

“Campaign/bounty managers”, oh those valiant pillars of our community, surely made their cuts off the countless ICO scams and casinos designed from the start to suck up every Satoshi they can..
What heroes..
So trustworthy..

These “managers” are held in such high regard, yet never deemed responsible for their outcomes, of the biggest scams and suctions of satoshis this forum has ever seen..
Yet on they go, and nobody will speak a word against them in fear they will be ostracized by them from getting their own chance to earn a couple satoshis advertising the next big Satoshi suck on offer..

There could be bounties that pay in Bitcoins, maybe some puzzle solving, or completing other tasks unrelated to altcoins.
If you want to address issue of altcoin bounties than I think you should talk more with managers who organize them.
The ones that pay in Bitcoin (or anything else with real value) are usually a bit better, but as long as they work with "stakes" instead of a fixed payment per bounty hunter, they still don't benefit from rejecting spammers. The more people join, the more advertising they get for the same money.

problem is not just shitposters themselves but also presumably smart and rational users - some of them with e.g. ChipMixer signatures if that means anything - responding to those shitposts.
I think I've been guilty of this, but generally I don't reply to a shitpost unless it's to blast it for being idiotic or if there's actually something in it that's coherent and I want to respond to.
I've fallen for it a few times too. Sometimes it's not instantly clear it's a troll or shitposter, and sometimes I just can't help being sarcastic.

I have a question: if these newbies already get tagged and doesn't have anything to lose since they can create new accounts, why until now they never learn how to hide and not linked their alt accounts?
So you think the bounty spammers who can't be linked as alts are really different people? That's cute Tongue
I think most of them are good at hiding their alts, and only a few get busted.

Forum is concern in dealing with sharing ideas and topic regarding bitcoin and its external and internal processes and uses. I dont think these are priority of forum to clean up such thing regarding bounty.
Theymos posted about this 4 years ago (click for full context):
The things on the forum which encourage spam are allowed mainly because it's part of the forum's mission to be as free as possible. Eg. banning bounties would undoubtedly reduce spam, but that'd be destroying an entire economy/population/culture which has been able to develop due to the forum's freedom. I am willing to take this sort of action, but only as an absolute last resort. It's always preferable to handle these problems by reshaping the environment to make them non-problems, rather than removing some freedom.

It's wonderful when someone is able to constructively do something on the forum instead of continuing with whatever they were expected to do under the status quo. Enabling that sort of thing is exactly why Bitcoin and this forum were created. Though bitcointalk.org is not a worldwide welfare organization, and people are not entitled to make money.
7756  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free on: May 24, 2022, 04:48:00 PM
Username is Crypt0S0ul
It's whitelisted now.
7757  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free on: May 24, 2022, 04:31:07 PM
Hi! LoyceV, I have another account that was created back in September 2020.
If you post the username, I'll whitelist it.
7758  Economy / Lending / Re: Liberated: LoyceV's Legendary Little Lightning Loans Lowered on: May 24, 2022, 01:35:23 PM
LN Lovers LBump
7759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Lightning network - How to join it? on: May 24, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
1) What is the most used bitcoin lightning wallet (phone/pc)?
I've only used mobile wallets, my current favourites are BlueWallet (custodial) and Phoenix Wallet (non-custodial, except for channel opening). Lightning Network Stores has many more options.

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2) Do the addresses looks the same as the normal ones or are different?
There are no "addresses", only invoices.

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3) How to send bitcoin to a lightning wallet (from a purchase of bitcoin form exchange/ from a normal wallet)?
Funding the wallet varies per wallet. You'll see what you need after you install one. Some exchanges nowadays offer LN withdrawals too.

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4) If I want to spend bitcoin, the shop needs to have lightning network or is it enough to have normal address/qr code?
They'll need to specifically accept LN.



My advice: install BlueWallet on your phone, go to the above website, and click Faucet. That should give you enough sats to test.
7760  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Are dices for generating seed words fair? on: May 24, 2022, 11:25:52 AM
Absolutely everything that happens is the result of absolutely everything that happens during the existence of the world, i.e. everything that happens is the result of the infinite past events.
That doesn't matter since you can't know the exact past events.
Off the top of my head I'm thinking of:
In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle (also known as Heisenberg's uncertainty principle) is any of a variety of mathematical inequalities[1] asserting a fundamental limit to the accuracy with which the values for certain pairs of physical quantities of a particle, such as position, x, and momentum, p, can be predicted from initial conditions.
The butterfly effect, an underlying principle of chaos, describes how a small change in one state of a deterministic nonlinear system can result in large differences in a later state (meaning that there is sensitive dependence on initial conditions).
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