rpietila, I am referring to a mathematical definition of entropy where order is low entropy and disorder (chaos) is high entropy. What you are referring to is probably resiliency, fitness, and Taleb's Antifragility concept, which is maximized with higher entropy (contrary to CoinCube's assertions that chaotic systems don't converge, which is precisely why they are resilient, because the world is not convergent on a few top-down possibilities but rather a smorgasbord of divergent paths).

P.S. Something poignant from Armstrong:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/21/how-banks-wiped-out-eastern-europeans/

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Subject: Pen is mightier than the sword; coming War Cycle will be mostly propaganda
Date:    Tue, April 21, 2015 5:57 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Recall my quotes of Howard Katz upthread wherein he stated, "THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD".

I was discussing the likelihood of a Russian EMP attack on the USA here and here, and basically it doesn't seem likely because the global elite want to maintain control.

The elite needed WW2 to prod the USA into war so they could take over the country with a corrupted central bank and income tax fueled by the need to borrow massively during that period. At this time, there are no such strong countries that resist the NWO, thus there is no need for total chaos. Instead the elite want a controlled burn. What we are seeing now is scripted show between globalists' elite controlled countries and leaders (e.g. the Russia vs. NATO scripted conflict propaganda), to scare and lead the masses into the NWO. Nevertheless globalist the-powers-that-be want to raise the fear factor as much as possible to keep the Marxist (reliance on government) sheep locked into the headlights all the way through. Thus limited EMP attack is not implausible, if they are sure they can prevent this from spinning out-of-control to full scale nuclear war. Rather it is much more likely this will be a "virtual war" where the war is mostly about propaganda on mass and social media (a viral disease of collectivist political correctness mass delusion) to program the minds of the masses to accept the NWO savior. Do you understand now why the CIA and bankster's such as Goldman and JP Morgan financed Facebook and control every major mass media operation? Thus if you are addicted to Alex Jones (Infowars, etc), ZeroHedge, or any other hyperventilated, sensationalists media outlet, then you are already hooked into this "virtual war" mind programming. You probably stack gold too which is another confirmation.

In short, Armstrong's coming War Cycle will be an informational war, because we have moved into the information age. Also because people are mostly zombies now (rational, critical, independent thinkers are rare).

There will be a POTUS "election" in November 2016 but it will be a farce and this will propel the rebellion after 2016 which leads to the breakup of the USA over the coming decades, especially as the economy turns down hard starting later in 2017. For the elite's NWO plans, all that matters is to control the mass media propaganda that will portray patriotic civil disobedience as anarchy, warlordism, terrorism, extremism, and lack of order (i.e. chaos).

As I wrote previously, it won't be until after 2017 that the USA turns down hard economically (although the actuarial decline is underway and accelerating, it is masked by the international capital inflows and the $trillion cash deficits to keep the masses oblivious).

As I wrote previously, the USA peaked and began it's decline on April 2013 with Edward Snowden's expose.

As I wrote previously, a global pandemic circa 2018-2019 could be caused by or exacerbate the coming wars.

I have written many times about China's ruling party being fully on board for the plan of the global elite to turn the world into a global technocracy, most recently here from page 8 of iamback's posts. Technocracy means a world controlled from the top-down, including for example Smart Meters in the home so that even they can monitor and shut off your appliances from the central command station.

P.S. Anyone on the lookout for something I might be working on should note the post I made in the Skycoin thread.

ZH has some useful posts, buried in a smorgasbord of hyperventilated noise.

CoinCube, I had already addressed your latest post, well before you wrote it as follows.


The problem is not leverage. Rather root of the problem has been that capital enslaved labor until (just recently) knowledge became the predominant component of production startup costs.

Think it out[1] and you will see the generative essence of the issues you are raising are all due to the fact that capital enslaved labor and this actually supported (and required![2]) the large collectivization of society.


[1] Map out all the relationships and trace the generative essence though the "directed graph". My brain did this instantly.

[2] This is a deep point I haven't emphasized enough.

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I have two soulmates on this forum.    

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Weird shit with the Walmart story. Not quite sure what to make of all this, but I lean towards bizarre outcomes for the USA no later than 2018.


Stop with the ZeroHedge noise. The USA stock market is going to double or triple by 2017.

ZeroHedge's paradigm is a lot hyperventilated adrenalin to get you hooked on their site. But most of it is short-term myopia.

I became much more sane and made wiser trading decisions when I stopped reading ZH and started reading Armstrong.

More erroneous top-down modeling that doesn't model that systems anneal with autonomous action (i.e. degrees-of-freedom). Nature anneals itself. Leverage can become far overextended with Coasian barriers such as collectivized control.

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And a corrupt system can do whatever the fuck it wants to do, so why even blame leverage?

Because you centralized governance orgy lovers don't wish to blame and address the fundamental problem. Instead you want to fuck with society in ways that cause megadeath (see below).

The rampantly poor logic skills are disgusting.
 

And I will leave as an exercise in macro economics math for you as to how banning usury leads to societal collapse, Dark Age, megadeath, and warlordism (feudalism). Hint: friction can never be 0, and friction causes acceleration and deceleration (i.e. gravity).


Do you even know what you mean by fiat? Do you mean fractional reserve banking or do you mean legal tender laws?

You can't ban fractional reserve banking, as it is a natural feature of society. It will spontaneously create itself, as it did in the 1800s in the USA with private banks doing it. The Catholic church banned usury in the Middle Ages and that enslaved the people in a Dark Age.


Indeed with infinite degrees-of-freedom, no leverage would be needed, but this means there is no friction thus speed-of-light is infinte, thus we would cease to exist because the past and present would collapse into an infinitesimal point.

So sorry you wouldn't want what you wish for, because the universe would be gone.

Control freaks can't seem to grasp that nature is the way it is because our existence requires imperfection (a.k.a. friction). These fuckers want to regulate a perfect world (they are so offended that nature is harsh and chaotic), and thus they fuck everything up into a perfect hell. You all don't seem to grasp basic math.


He clarified that his point of contention is around the creation of the money. I assume he means centralized control is the evil. In that case, I agree 100%.

But fractional reserves will always exist and you had better not try to ban them else you will be back in the feudal age. I leave it as an exercise for you to teach yourself why. I am tired of writing.


Ignorant bullshit and incorrect!

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Subject: Marxism has always been the root problem,  but central banking isn't needed in the Knowledge Age
Date:    Thu, April 16, 2015 11:14 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <armstrongeconomics@gmail.com>
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Armstrong has written an incredible history of the Fed (must read!):

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/16/the-creature-from-jekyll-island/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/17/the-federal-reserve-part-ii/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/19/the-federal-reserve-part-iii-the-takeover/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/20/the-federal-reserve-part-iv-the-bankers-strike-bank/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/18/understanding-jacksons-bank-war/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/18/income-tax-has-been-highly-destructive-to-society/

Bottom line is the masses and their Marxist delusion has always been the root problem as I wrote recently[1].

Yes central banking was needed to maintain confidence because the large concentration of monetary capital required for production in the Industrial Age, but in the fledgling Knowledge Age knowledge capital can not so centralized and thus we no longer will need a central bank to prevent runs on confidence.

The Knowledge Age paradigm shift I have elucidated upthread is profound.

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 15, 2015, 09:05:55 AM Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 14, 2015, 05:52:59 AM Please don't ever think I've lost my love and appreciation for the relationship we built over the past year or so. I still don't think you've gotten the point that anarchy contains top-down organization too and we humans are not superior to nature. But this is to be expected, because it is a philosophical difference but it is also the reason that I don't like white people as much any more as I did in my youth. I view them as dysfunctional, harmful meddling and "trying to fix everything that isn't broken" and not fixing their own shit especially this ubiquitous collectivist "control nature, nature is barbaric and repulsive" philosophy which is the root cause of the rising totalitarianism. Sorry I am blaming that attitude as the root cause. Until Westerners can look at themselves and their internal attitude as the cause, then your society must crash and burn. ...

Sorry I am blaming that attitude as the root cause. Until Westerners can look at themselves and their internal attitude as the cause, then your society must crash and burn.

And I am so proud of Marty (see linked blog posts below). I don't know if he did this because of my emails, but I will say I advised him that he can be very productive if he focuses on those who can use his information and not "cast his pearls at swine" as Jesus warned in Matthew.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/15/change-never-comes-without-the-pain/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/15/to-be-great-is-to-be-misunderstood/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/14/how-to-think-may-be-the-key-to-everything/

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/15/aristotle-education/


P.S. my improving health is such an incredible change to my life! I am loving this life again. I can compete again finally! And oh boy do I want to compete!!! Nonstop work lately. Slept 6 hours then right back at it. I want to go crazy on athletics too. Just exploding with grrrr tiger male energy! Love it.

First time I've seen Armstrong use the term "knowledge age".

First they ignore you, next they fight you, and finally they join you.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/14/how-to-think-may-be-the-key-to-everything/


Does the following quote resemble something I've been writing lately.

Please don't ever think I've lost my love and appreciation for the relationship we built over the past year or so.

I still don't think you've gotten the point that anarchy contains top-down organization too and we humans are not superior to nature. But this is to be expected, because it is a philosophical difference but it is also the reason that I don't like white people as much any more as I did in my youth. I view them as dysfunctional, harmful meddling and "trying to fix everything that isn't broken" and not fixing their own shit especially this ubiquitous collectivist "control nature, nature is barbaric and repulsive" philosophy which is the root cause of the rising totalitarianism.


 

What is starting to kick in now is that I am really coming cured from the Multiple Sclerosis and my tiger feeling is coming back. I worked 16 hours and didn't even feel tired. I have 9 years of "catching up what I lost" itch to burn.

My new site was launched on Sunday and the acceleration of user signups is underway today.

Soon can move back to crypto-currency work. Cheers.

You too good luck.

CoinCube, my response is that the free market will decide. And what ever it decides is what is.

Men control their top-down portion of the economy. But no man and no oligarchy controls the free market. Even massively collectivized Coasian barriers fall eventually.

If voluntary anonymity is repulsive or you believe (or hope) unsustainable because you don't like that people can voluntarily hide their reputations, then that is your personal pet peeve shared by many other jealous collectivists who irrationally fear everything that they can't control and thus hate human freedom. The free market will decide if anonymity is a better and sustainable paradigm or just a short-term fix to a peaking totalitarianism.

By the way, please don't forget to build a dossier reputation on every potential natural threat in the universe, e.g. include wild animals, unknown tornadoes, hurricanes, etc.. Or just do what many modern people do these days, which is try to keep nature as far away as they can and live in antiseptic bubbles with anti-bacterial soap and very stringent laws and political correctness peer pressure.

CoinCube, anarchy will never be composed of infinite equiprobable (i.e. resourceful) actors with no hierarchical structure, thus the downside systemic risk is mild (i.e. the free market will be able to organize and converge on solutions and is the most resilient system nature gave us). There will always be leaders (such as myself) who apply more resources and thus more control into the free market with our resources, e.g. more knowledge capital. In other words, the voluntary participation free market provides for the self-annealed balance between decentralization and hierarchical leadership. The free market and Adam Smith's Invisible Hand is nature's optimum system for us.

Whereas, involuntary participation top-down collectivism has a systemic end game risk of being controlled top-down in totalitarianism, i.e. entropy near to 0.

This asymmetry of systemic risk is undeniable.

Please don't waste my time with more of your illogical myopia and inapplicable strawmen (i.e. yes the research paper is applicable and the optimum entropy is self-annealed by the free market, not by totalitarianism). You can't grasp simple mathematical asymmetry that has been spelled out so clearly for you.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/04/13/discourse-on-voluntary-servitude/

CoinCube, I can't fathom how the mathematical point flew right over your head.   I give up. The balance is precisely high entropy. Collectivism doesn't have it.

aminorex, you lack logic skills despite your apparently impressive math and other skills. I have noticed this on numerous occasions, but this can be because your mental focus is in other areas at the moment. That debt-based money enslaves holders says nothing about causality. That you think a single virtual currency could be destroyed says nothing about the entropy of the market place and the number of altcoins ready to jump into its place. You completely sidestepped the actual generative essence by presenting strawmen that contained no applicable logic. I stopped reading there. Nevermind. Thanks for the upthread help.

My exceptional logic skills are what makes me a very highly capable programmer. Programming is much more about a state machine of logical possibilities, than other types of intellectual disciplines.

There are more productive activities I could be doing than this.

Large scale collectivism is insane because low entropy systems have systemic collapse risk in the vicinity of 0.

Whereas the free market has a much higher entropy and thus systemic collapse risk is very low (thanks aminorex for reminding me of that). Taleb has been explaining this in his reknowned books, e.g. Antifragility. Are you collectivists asleep and blind? Read.

Large scale collectivism has another horrific moral and ethical flaw that the free market doesn't have, with horrific systemic risk implications. Specifically it enables individuals to transfer their responsibility to the State and obfuscate their individual irresponsibility.

Sorry CoinCube, for as long as you do not rescind your "anonymity is repulsive" and do not admit the abominable, asymmetric difference in systemic risk between large government and free markets, then we can't possibly function together in society. You obfuscate (to yourself!) that you want to kill me, so how can I live peacefully with you then.

Come on, you have a university degree in math. Don't let it fail you now. Be erudite and objective please.

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Explanation of Entropy

Entropy = Sum(p_i × log(p_i)), where p_i = probability of event i

That equation says a more uniformly distributed occurrence of events has a higher entropy; whereas, concentration of high probabilities for certain events has a lower entropy. At the extreme low a single possible event has a probability of 1 and thus an entropy of 0.

So a system where everything is controlled by a single top-down authority has only one possible set of outcomes (those favored by that single-minded authority) and thus it has an entropy of 0.

We can view entropy as the information content of the system. Thus systems with many autonomous actors with no one actor having a great majority of the possible outcomes in the system, have a much higher information content, i.e. they are smarter, more resilient, and more Antifragile.

The only way the State could stop individuals from acquiring and using such technology would be to track everything everyone does. Choke points of yore only (e.g. export restrictions on certain technology) worked before the internet. The cat is already out of the box and the only way to put it back in, is to track everything everyone does. That Orwellian State would mean certain extinction of the human race because centralization of power corrupts absolutely and there will be no way to break out of it until hits 0 (i.e. cancer entirely killed the host).

The logic you expressed appears to me to be certifiably insane because...

All you have provided are the choice between two scenarios which are both human extinction paths.

My gosh. Sociopath much? Why not contemplate a more rosy possibility?

Of course anarchy (a.k.a. the free market) would never end up with the outcome you illogically fear. Because (unlike a perfectly centralized system which has 0 entropy), the entropy of the free market is higher (not 0) and thus it has a higher implied equilibrium state (above 0).

Can't you PERCEIVE (i.e. envision) that the free market will always react by providing self-defense technology? For example, technology to leave planet Earth if necessary, technology to live underground, and remote sensing (this exists already) technology sniff out certain chemical compositions in a certain proximity. Etc, etc, etc.

This perfectly exemplifies why those who lack PERCEPTION and are too much JUDGING, will prefer insane (absurd) low entropy choices.

We appear to be in significant agreement on the above.

My next post will get into the meat of where we still have incongruence or misunderstanding.