explain to me how putting hash on a system made for hashing is a crime. explain to me what legislation this comes under. what you are referring to is money which cryptocurrencies are clearly not.
It's your job to explain it to the police how it is not a crime if ANYTHING with monetary value (be it carrots, dollars, or cryptocoins) is being taken away from someone. last time i checked profiteering was a crime too... 10 more minutes in the corner for you. |
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you're a moron. i ban you from speaking. shun yourself in the corner for 10 minutes as punishment.
the market cap of aur is much lower.
Ok I'm the moron... you can't seriously think hardcoded checkpoints will stop a 51% attack. 51% netHash means those checkpoints become invalid. i don't think you know enough about this to even discuss it.
It does not.. 51% attack does not invalidate hardcoded checkpoints of clients that already have the hard code... That is what is meant by "hard code".. static hash values compiled directly into the binary... lol What I would suggest is that when something is actually proved to be scam, use your efforts to track down the scammer and make his identity public. When that starts to happen, people will be way more reluctant to start a scam. or just take them entirely out of the question by forking their coins and rendering their business models useless. you're still the moron. |
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Good point but this is not another "make me money" coin. It's meant to solve exactly some of the problems you mentioned with too many cryptos. You'll understand more when it's released.
if i had a dollar for everytime i heard that on here, i'd be rich. |
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All I have to say to the asshole DDOSing and Port-flooding all the pools...
Keep wasting your time and energy dickhead. My 24 core server + Proxy is eating up all your shit you are sending our way.
want me to give it a try? i have 15 dell poweredge(dual e2650v2's with 128g ram) on a quad 10gbe(4 x 10gb ports) interface with tier 3 provisioning. It wasnt a challenge brotha. Someone is hurting these pools. Were just absorbing shit left and right. Its just sad that people go out of their way to DDOS and wreck other pools. my advice: choose a new coin to provide a pool for. this one is obviously a scam. we are growing impatient. |
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Well whole point of altcoins is decentralization. Making any kind of cleanup would take some people who decide they have authority to do something like that and make decisions because they think they are wiser then others. This would corrupt entire idea of freedom and decentralization. I don't oppose the idea completely but I just think it is too radical.
wrong. go join illodin in the corner. |
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All I have to say to the asshole DDOSing and Port-flooding all the pools...
Keep wasting your time and energy dickhead. My 24 core server + Proxy is eating up all your shit you are sending our way.
want me to give it a try? i have 15 dell poweredge(dual e2650v2's with 128g ram) on a quad 10gbe(4 x 10gb ports) interface with tier 3 provisioning. |
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What's the address of the premined coins?
They have not matured yet. When they do we will provide the address. Why not provide the address now? What are you trying to hide? First you raised hell in the HVC thread. Now you are trying to raise hell here. Troll be gone. All you have ever done is talk shit. You must have a horrible case of halitosis. And how are the IPO holders of hvc doing? The dev got 173 btc. People are being scammed and losing money. How am I the bad guy? Because people have the ability to make their own decisions? If your true intention is exposing scams, as you say, you should try a different approach. I'd make a new account. People just think you're childish at this point. speak for your self. he's one of a few intelligent people i see posting in this thread with objectivity. <--google that word since you don't know what it means. |
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btw the plan is to let the people decide, but mostly the senior members who are more interested in cryptos surviving then making fiat.
Senior members i.e. those who happened to get on the BTC train early. Seems like the only safe thing to do is buy into established coins or ones which don't meet the prerequisites for being a scam... oh wait, I think that might be the motive of the people who are doing this...
BOOM Also, lets say you somehow damage for example AUR and people's coins disappear. The monetary damages caused will be what is the market cap, at this moment $151,321,972. Because at least where I come from, the tax office for example has stated that the value of a coin is the value it is being exchanged at in the exchanges! This is exactly how the court will see it as well. And I would imagine if AUR dev reported $134,400,000 worth of damages caused (the amount of coins he has that are supposed to be airdropped) it would be investigated to the fullest. you're a moron. i ban you from speaking. shun yourself in the corner for 10 minutes as punishment. the market cap of aur is much lower. |
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give us back the address pages.
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Okkaay then... that's cue for me to leave this thread.
Let me just leave with my final perspective:
You don't help people by destroying things.. you help them by creating things.
Really hope you guys change your minds about how to go about this effort.. but... to each their own.
Agree with your sentiment. And I find this entire thread truly bizarre. I guess the people they want to recruit for their 'cause' are basically immature jerks who can't accept criticism or discuss things logically? I mean, that is all I see from them so far. Instead of discussing something, they throw out insults and act like they are 14 years old. And it's incredibly hypocritical that the two main people pushing this group either made shitcoins (the OP), or ran an exchange where he was happy to fill it with shitcoins, so long as it made him money ... until he lost all of that money that is. conversely, you can't form a valid argument so you instead question the motives of those in support. you're transparent and you bore me. |
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tell us more about your new account. get some balls and come in with your real id.
? I'm not sure what i said makes you believe i have another account.. I'm actually a newcomer to this community... so I admit could be wrong about many things. But some things I'm sure about.. I just started looking at this code a few weeks ago.. but it's not rocket science for any sw engineer. I have launched 2 coins so far. I started looking at the code after Stackcoin incident.. felt bad for the people who invested, and hacked up RSC.. i admit its a 100% clone coin.. but i wanted to learn this stuff, and wanted to do something to make those who lost something feel a bit better.. to that end I think i achieved both goals. The 2nd coin i cloned was GPUC, this was after witnessing 2 failed launches that was just an embarrassment... so i stepped in and got it created and launched smoothly. So.. call both shitcoins if you must.. but both were done with good intentions. Just want to share my perspectives and help move the community in a positive direction. I'm still learning too.. as hopefully we all are.. you wanna move the community in a positive direction? don't make any more fucking coins. ever. |
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The checkpoints disallow for the rewriting of "ancient history", usually weeks or more in the past, and only when the developers release a new client. A 51% attack done in secret alongside the honest chain will allow you to rewrite history starting from the last developer consensus checkpoint--it does not make them invalid. The "not secret" 51% attack generally delays current transactions indefinitely or rewrites recent history in an attempt to get people to stop using the network.
This is correct... and that whole thing about changing to low difficulty.. that won't work either. once you've caught up, releasing this alternate blockchain with a different difficulty value for subsequent block from the checkpoint, will also cause clients with the "real" blockchain to reject those blocks... In retrospect should have just kept my mouth shut, let these guys try it, and get frustrated on why it didn't work... but just couldn't resist pointing out the irony... tell us more about your new account. get some balls and come in with your real id. a search for testicles returned an error 404: not found. |
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actually what i said is the textbook method for forking a coin, as outlined by ArtForz some 2-3 years ago. people like BCX have the method down to science. I was just stating the basic method for attack. you use the connect(instead of addnode) directive to create a private coin network, here with a few friends connected in this manner, you can mine all you want on your own private fork. as long as you have 51% or greater hashrate when you return your clients to the network(providing the coin is not Proof Of Stake), the coin is instantly and easily forked as your blockchain has consensus over the network because you have 51% Of NetHash. its text book.
Have you looked at the code before? Ever heard of hard coded checkpoints..? If a client out there has them they will reject any connection to any node with your alternate blockchain... you call it cyber terrorism, thats an interesting language there bud. in reaility this is a public service, shielding them from the scams, which are the real cyber terrorism.
Who is the arbiter of what is a scam or not? You assume aurora coin is a scam, but it may very well be an important .. if not crucial experiment for the crypto world. By attacking it.. you could be negatively impacting us all.. you can't seriously think hardcoded checkpoints will stop a 51% attack. 51% netHash means those checkpoints become invalid. i don't think you know enough about this to even discuss it. |
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Phase 3:
We setup the pool on our own private network with our custom, low difficulty client. we mine from block 0 to thoroughly erase the blockchain.(very easy. we mine ahead 3,000 blocks, then suddenly flood the network.)
Uhhh.. did someone in this thread earlier mention something about ppl not understanding how cryptos work...? Cuz this would not do anything. Anyways, i think your premine criteria is perhaps not fair/not thought through... There are legitimate projects like Premine (PMC) which was 100% premine... GPUC which required premine to use as capital for GPUs.. RSC which i personally created as a reverse-scam to compensate those who really got scammed with Stackcoin... to give cryptos a better name in general to the public. I'm all for anti-scam.. but please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater... something like this which amounts to arbitrary cyber terrorism is what gives cryptos a bad name, and makes it worse off for everyone that is interested in this community. actually what i said is the textbook method for forking a coin, as outlined by ArtForz some 2-3 years ago. people like BCX have the method down to science. I was just stating the basic method for attack. you use the connect(instead of addnode) directive to create a private coin network, here with a few friends connected in this manner, you can mine all you want on your own private fork. as long as you have 51% or greater hashrate when you return your clients to the network(providing the coin is not Proof Of Stake), the coin is instantly and easily forked as your blockchain has consensus over the network because you have 51% Of NetHash. its text book. you call it cyber terrorism, thats an interesting language there bud. i disagree with you 100%. |
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obvious sockpuppet is obvious
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R3wt keep hocking your failed exchange in your signature, how many coins did you run off with? See how accusations without proof work? I can make up whatever bullshit I like too.
then i just prove you wrong. easy peasy. btw, i see what you're saying but your logic is flawed. the AUR coin dev is anonymous. the aur coin dev premined 50%. the aur coin dev is highly probable to dump/launder the premine through the "airdrop". there is plenty of proof in the argument here. now your turn to state your case. |
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what the hell does that mean , i dont fuckin love shitcoins, but i also dont like power trippin idiots, that what this thread is
yes you cant keep a exchange together, but your going to save us from shitcoins.
j
when thats the only argument you have, i sort of feel bad for you. not really though. thinner heads always prevail. |
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Sound like Power Trippers looking for power, the market will decide, no one needs any of you to save them
j
P.S.
Do you know how f &(king Insulting you all are, like were all so stupid you need to save us, we dont need saving and were not asking you to.
also
Nobody wants a crypto KKK saying who is worthy or not, that will make things look worse then the shit coins you want to stop
obvious agenda is obvious. self reinforcing statement is self reinforcing. |
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I think people need to understand what the definition of fraud or scam is.
Having unrealistic goals or having your head in the clouds about creating the next Bitcoin or turning on a whole nation into cryptocurrency isn't criminal in character, it's just being naive. Until we see the creator of AUR run off with the premine for instance, any accusation of fraud is questionable at best, having suspicions is one thing but throwing out accusations without evidence is another.
Personally to me the biggest shenanigans of all revolves around Litecoin with its massive amounts of fake volume going on in the Chinese exchanges, one exchange in particular that is owned by the BROTHER of the developer for Litecoin. Imagine if Satoshi's brother opened up an exchange and tried to sell you Bitcoin? I know it wouldn't make me comfortable. But whatever, it is obvious there is a clear schism between the "old crypto money" and the "new" crypto money and the 1st generation has hated most alts from the very beginning so I take any accusations of "scam" with a grain of salt.
Remember, Doge was called a scam and the creator was verbally assaulted and accused that he'd premined a bunch and would run off with it and crash the currency. Not only did this NOT happen, the guy even turned down 500k in venture capital money! How many of the professional trolls in btc-e who spend 8 hours a day trashing alts would have such strong hands? I bet very few.
bullshit. your posts fails to make any credible point at all. try again, scam pumper. Wow. How can you even say that? What he said has some valid points (some of what he said is fact, even) and you are just dismissing them on principle. Please refute what he just said. Has the creator of AUR ran off with the premine yet? Is the brother of Litecoin's developer not the owner of an exchange? Is DOGE a scam? Did the DOGE dev not turn down 500k venture capital? In my book, people who throw around accusations without anything to back them up are the ones who get labelled "scammers". yeah no fucking shit. this is worse than a bar that doesn't card when it comes to daily rape. ffs people are not even trying any more. where is the innovation? this is just bulls shit. you just agreed with him, and he was disagreeing with my premise. so which is it? you're either for these scams or against them. pick a side. You didn't respond to my post. Why is that? Were any of solid's points that I reiterated factually incorrect? And if I had to pick a side I would clearly be against scam coins since they in no way benefit me. Don't try to polarize things such that everybody who disagrees with something you say automatically disagrees with the idea that scamcoins are bad. You are putting a mean, arrogant face on this entire operation which I thought was supposed to be an admirable cause. It is an admirable cause, whether you feel like there is sufficient evidence or not. Word's paint pictures, they cannot change facts, only perception itself can be changed. solid is wrong in every single way, and his posts potray a childish way of thinking that is so becoming of this community. I've stated my views in this thread, though i will personally not participate in such a group, i will most certainly support it. A buffer is needed, by whatever means necessary. Whether you can accept that fact or not is an entirely different question. I eagerly await your response. I'm sure it will be chocked full of the same tireless and childish logic. |
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you just agreed with him, and he was disagreeing with my premise. so which is it? you're either for these scams or against them. pick a side.
No I'm just against holier than thou self-appointed committees who think they know what is good for crypto, look how well the Bitcoin Foundation turned out. Also if the rumors about this "Project Shitcoin" and the Blackcoin MultiPool are true, DDoSing a pool you don't like puts you squarely in the criminal category. Your agenda is obvious. find a new occupation. |
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