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March 20, 2014, 04:37:19 AM |
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its sad that one of the best solutions is to close this whole sub forum.
as to the question regarding removing buy orders. if there is no one to buy no one will mine. simple supply vs demand.
So you didnt make any shitcoins at all? right.
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March 20, 2014, 04:39:40 AM |
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LOL WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD ??
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solid12345
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March 20, 2014, 04:42:53 AM |
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Personally I'm a believer in the free market, I got burned and lost ALOT of money chasing alts, if anyone wants to see all the crap coins go away its me. But sometimes reality is the best dose of medicine. I've woken up and realized there is no get rich overnight coin, hell I haven't even found a "make 2-3 months of rent" coin yet. I think alot of people have to realize that though who adopted Bitcoin early on or are inside on the P&D groups are the only real winners here and everyone else is running around hoping to find a coin for pennies that will be worth 500-1000 dollars someday, but the odds are very, very slim. It hurts and I wish I could even recover half of my money but that's just the way the chips fall, it is this realization that will kill the alt market once and for all, not some high and mighty self-appointed regulatory group made up of people who probably already have thousands of bitcoin themselves and haven't even been stung with huge financial losses personally.
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March 20, 2014, 04:43:58 AM |
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This seems like a fun thread, let's see if the madness here will reach middlecoin thread level.
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March 20, 2014, 04:45:26 AM |
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Personally I'm a believer in the free market, I got burned and lost ALOT of money chasing alts, if anyone wants to see all the crap coins go away its me. But sometimes reality is the best dose of medicine. I've woken up and realized there is no get rich overnight coin, hell I haven't even found a "make 2-3 months of rent" coin yet. I think alot of people have to realize that though who adopted Bitcoin early on or are inside on the P&D groups are the only real winners here and everyone else is running around hoping to find a coin for pennies that will be worth 500-1000 dollars someday, but the odds are very, very slim. It hurts and I wish I could even recover half of my money but that's just the way the chips fall, it is this realization that will kill the alt market once and for all, not some high and mighty self-appointed regulatory group made up of people who probably already have thousands of bitcoin themselves and haven't even been stung with huge financial losses personally.
It's a good thing you didn't lose A LOT of money though. This thread is going to be fun. I can see it now.
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milly6
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March 20, 2014, 04:48:26 AM |
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You cannot stop the shitcoins. You can kill one, but there will be 10 more to replace it.
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March 20, 2014, 04:57:55 AM |
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I think people need to understand what the definition of fraud or scam is.
Having unrealistic goals or having your head in the clouds about creating the next Bitcoin or turning on a whole nation into cryptocurrency isn't criminal in character, it's just being naive. Until we see the creator of AUR run off with the premine for instance, any accusation of fraud is questionable at best, having suspicions is one thing but throwing out accusations without evidence is another.
Personally to me the biggest shenanigans of all revolves around Litecoin with its massive amounts of fake volume going on in the Chinese exchanges, one exchange in particular that is owned by the BROTHER of the developer for Litecoin. Imagine if Satoshi's brother opened up an exchange and tried to sell you Bitcoin? I know it wouldn't make me comfortable. But whatever, it is obvious there is a clear schism between the "old crypto money" and the "new" crypto money and the 1st generation has hated most alts from the very beginning so I take any accusations of "scam" with a grain of salt.
Remember, Doge was called a scam and the creator was verbally assaulted and accused that he'd premined a bunch and would run off with it and crash the currency. Not only did this NOT happen, the guy even turned down 500k in venture capital money! How many of the professional trolls in btc-e who spend 8 hours a day trashing alts would have such strong hands? I bet very few.
bullshit. your posts fails to make any credible point at all. try again, scam pumper. Wow. How can you even say that? What he said has some valid points (some of what he said is fact, even) and you are just dismissing them on principle. Please refute what he just said. Has the creator of AUR ran off with the premine yet? Is the brother of Litecoin's developer not the owner of an exchange? Is DOGE a scam? Did the DOGE dev not turn down 500k venture capital? In my book, people who throw around accusations without anything to back them up are the ones who get labelled "scammers". yeah no fucking shit. this is worse than a bar that doesn't card when it comes to daily rape. ffs people are not even trying any more. where is the innovation? this is just bulls shit. you just agreed with him, and he was disagreeing with my premise. so which is it? you're either for these scams or against them. pick a side.
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GreekBitcoin
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March 20, 2014, 05:04:52 AM |
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One thing i see always in scamcoin threads is people that just created a profile posting good comments about a super new coins. And there are many of them. Sockpuppets. Now when someone tells people to beware of the coin they attack him and obviouly when you have 10 good fake comments and 1 bad this is going to allure noobs.
Now this unfortunately cant be fought just with "education" cause some people do just that. Good commenting with fake accounts on shitty coins...
So an idea:
What about regulating noobs from posting in altcoins? Like you need 1 month old account and/or some activity at least...
With this the way i see it you make the job of sockpuppets difficult and you also make noobs to be more active with bitcoin...
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solid12345
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March 20, 2014, 05:05:18 AM |
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you just agreed with him, and he was disagreeing with my premise. so which is it? you're either for these scams or against them. pick a side.
No I'm just against holier than thou self-appointed committees who think they know what is good for crypto, look how well the Bitcoin Foundation turned out. Also if the rumors about this "Project Shitcoin" and the Blackcoin MultiPool are true, DDoSing a pool you don't like puts you squarely in the criminal category.
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March 20, 2014, 05:06:47 AM |
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I'm curious to see what all of you think of my CryptoCasino Protocol and CCC (Crypto Casino Chips)
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Willisius
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I'm really quite sane!
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March 20, 2014, 05:10:00 AM |
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One thing i see always in scamcoin threads is people that just created a profile posting good comments about a super new coins. And there are many of them. Sockpuppets. Now when someone tells people to beware of the coin they attack him and obviouly when you have 10 good fake comments and 1 bad this is going to allure noobs.
Now this unfortunately cant be fought just with "education" cause some people do just that. Good commenting with fake accounts on shitty coins...
So an idea:
What about regulating noobs from posting in altcoins? Like you need 1 month old account and/or some activity at least...
With this the way i see it you make the job of sockpuppets difficult and you also make noobs to be more active with bitcoin...
I like this idea.
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r3wt
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March 20, 2014, 05:13:33 AM |
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you just agreed with him, and he was disagreeing with my premise. so which is it? you're either for these scams or against them. pick a side.
No I'm just against holier than thou self-appointed committees who think they know what is good for crypto, look how well the Bitcoin Foundation turned out. Also if the rumors about this "Project Shitcoin" and the Blackcoin MultiPool are true, DDoSing a pool you don't like puts you squarely in the criminal category. Your agenda is obvious. find a new occupation.
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March 20, 2014, 05:13:44 AM |
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I think people need to understand what the definition of fraud or scam is.
Having unrealistic goals or having your head in the clouds about creating the next Bitcoin or turning on a whole nation into cryptocurrency isn't criminal in character, it's just being naive. Until we see the creator of AUR run off with the premine for instance, any accusation of fraud is questionable at best, having suspicions is one thing but throwing out accusations without evidence is another.
Personally to me the biggest shenanigans of all revolves around Litecoin with its massive amounts of fake volume going on in the Chinese exchanges, one exchange in particular that is owned by the BROTHER of the developer for Litecoin. Imagine if Satoshi's brother opened up an exchange and tried to sell you Bitcoin? I know it wouldn't make me comfortable. But whatever, it is obvious there is a clear schism between the "old crypto money" and the "new" crypto money and the 1st generation has hated most alts from the very beginning so I take any accusations of "scam" with a grain of salt.
Remember, Doge was called a scam and the creator was verbally assaulted and accused that he'd premined a bunch and would run off with it and crash the currency. Not only did this NOT happen, the guy even turned down 500k in venture capital money! How many of the professional trolls in btc-e who spend 8 hours a day trashing alts would have such strong hands? I bet very few.
bullshit. your posts fails to make any credible point at all. try again, scam pumper. Wow. How can you even say that? What he said has some valid points (some of what he said is fact, even) and you are just dismissing them on principle. Please refute what he just said. Has the creator of AUR ran off with the premine yet? Is the brother of Litecoin's developer not the owner of an exchange? Is DOGE a scam? Did the DOGE dev not turn down 500k venture capital? In my book, people who throw around accusations without anything to back them up are the ones who get labelled "scammers". yeah no fucking shit. this is worse than a bar that doesn't card when it comes to daily rape. ffs people are not even trying any more. where is the innovation? this is just bulls shit. you just agreed with him, and he was disagreeing with my premise. so which is it? you're either for these scams or against them. pick a side. You didn't respond to my post. Why is that? Were any of solid's points that I reiterated factually incorrect? And if I had to pick a side I would clearly be against scam coins since they in no way benefit me. Don't try to polarize things such that everybody who disagrees with something you say automatically disagrees with the idea that scamcoins are bad. You are putting a mean, arrogant face on this entire operation which I thought was supposed to be an admirable cause.
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duuuuude
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March 20, 2014, 05:17:28 AM |
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Sound like Power Trippers looking for power, the market will decide, no one needs any of you to save them j
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Do you know how f &(king Insulting you all are, like were all so stupid you need to save us, we dont need saving and were not asking you to.
also Nobody wants a crypto KKK saying who is worthy or not, that will make things look worse then the shit coins you want to stop
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r3wt
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March 20, 2014, 05:18:11 AM |
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I think people need to understand what the definition of fraud or scam is.
Having unrealistic goals or having your head in the clouds about creating the next Bitcoin or turning on a whole nation into cryptocurrency isn't criminal in character, it's just being naive. Until we see the creator of AUR run off with the premine for instance, any accusation of fraud is questionable at best, having suspicions is one thing but throwing out accusations without evidence is another.
Personally to me the biggest shenanigans of all revolves around Litecoin with its massive amounts of fake volume going on in the Chinese exchanges, one exchange in particular that is owned by the BROTHER of the developer for Litecoin. Imagine if Satoshi's brother opened up an exchange and tried to sell you Bitcoin? I know it wouldn't make me comfortable. But whatever, it is obvious there is a clear schism between the "old crypto money" and the "new" crypto money and the 1st generation has hated most alts from the very beginning so I take any accusations of "scam" with a grain of salt.
Remember, Doge was called a scam and the creator was verbally assaulted and accused that he'd premined a bunch and would run off with it and crash the currency. Not only did this NOT happen, the guy even turned down 500k in venture capital money! How many of the professional trolls in btc-e who spend 8 hours a day trashing alts would have such strong hands? I bet very few.
bullshit. your posts fails to make any credible point at all. try again, scam pumper. Wow. How can you even say that? What he said has some valid points (some of what he said is fact, even) and you are just dismissing them on principle. Please refute what he just said. Has the creator of AUR ran off with the premine yet? Is the brother of Litecoin's developer not the owner of an exchange? Is DOGE a scam? Did the DOGE dev not turn down 500k venture capital? In my book, people who throw around accusations without anything to back them up are the ones who get labelled "scammers". yeah no fucking shit. this is worse than a bar that doesn't card when it comes to daily rape. ffs people are not even trying any more. where is the innovation? this is just bulls shit. you just agreed with him, and he was disagreeing with my premise. so which is it? you're either for these scams or against them. pick a side. You didn't respond to my post. Why is that? Were any of solid's points that I reiterated factually incorrect? And if I had to pick a side I would clearly be against scam coins since they in no way benefit me. Don't try to polarize things such that everybody who disagrees with something you say automatically disagrees with the idea that scamcoins are bad. You are putting a mean, arrogant face on this entire operation which I thought was supposed to be an admirable cause. It is an admirable cause, whether you feel like there is sufficient evidence or not. Word's paint pictures, they cannot change facts, only perception itself can be changed. solid is wrong in every single way, and his posts potray a childish way of thinking that is so becoming of this community. I've stated my views in this thread, though i will personally not participate in such a group, i will most certainly support it. A buffer is needed, by whatever means necessary. Whether you can accept that fact or not is an entirely different question. I eagerly await your response. I'm sure it will be chocked full of the same tireless and childish logic.
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r3wt
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March 20, 2014, 05:21:20 AM |
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Sound like Power Trippers looking for power, the market will decide, no one needs any of you to save them j
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Do you know how f &(king Insulting you all are, like were all so stupid you need to save us, we dont need saving and were not asking you to.
also Nobody wants a crypto KKK saying who is worthy or not, that will make things look worse then the shit coins you want to stop
obvious agenda is obvious. self reinforcing statement is self reinforcing.
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muddafudda (OP)
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March 20, 2014, 05:21:41 AM |
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LOL WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD ??
a forum that discusses what most people deny
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duuuuude
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March 20, 2014, 05:23:55 AM |
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what the hell does that mean , i dont fuckin love shitcoins, but i also dont like power trippin idiots, that what this thread is
yes you cant keep a exchange together, but your going to save us from shitcoins.
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r3wt
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March 20, 2014, 05:25:39 AM |
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what the hell does that mean , i dont fuckin love shitcoins, but i also dont like power trippin idiots, that what this thread is
yes you cant keep a exchange together, but your going to save us from shitcoins.
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when thats the only argument you have, i sort of feel bad for you. not really though. thinner heads always prevail.
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