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781  Economy / Economics / Re: What if gold is produced in lab? on: December 14, 2012, 10:05:04 PM
lmao, you aren't thinking outside the box, it's a problem I've noticed a lot with people who think space exploration isn't worth it.

The problem isn't thinking outside the box, it really isn't.  Roll Eyes

Where are these balls of gold in deep space anyhow? Has anyone proven they exist?
782  Economy / Economics / Re: What if gold is produced in lab? on: December 14, 2012, 09:55:29 PM
Because space is so vast, I can guarantee you that $1 billion will be nothing compared to what can be found out there, it's simple laws of probability.

How many trillions would throw at the problem to bring back a pound of gold? Its insane.

We have bitcoin now, we don't need more gold.
783  Economy / Economics / Re: What if gold is produced in lab? on: December 14, 2012, 09:47:16 PM
If we spent that money on getting back just one of those valuable asteroids and getting out all the precious metals cost wouldn't be an issue in the future to make those kind of expeditions, the only places we really have that amount of resources any more is Afghanistan and Africa etc. we're running out, so we've got to get it from some place and digging deeper is going to be just as dangerous if not more so than going out to space.


Proposed mining projects (wikipedia)

"On April 24, 2012 a plan was announced by billionaire entrepreneurs to mine asteroids for their resources. The company is called Planetary Resources and its founders include aerospace entrepreneurs Eric Anderson and Peter Diamandis.

The plan has been met with skepticism by some scientists who do not see it as cost-effective, even though platinum and gold are worth nearly £35 per gram ($1,600 per ounce). An upcoming NASA mission (OSIRIS-REx) to return just 60g (two ounces) of material from an asteroid to Earth will cost about $1 billion USD.[1] Planetary Resources admit that, in order to be successful, they will need to develop technologies that bring the cost of space flight down."


..."develop technologies that bring the cost of space flight down."

Understatement of the year. That's code for free energy and $20,000 spacecraft.
784  Economy / Economics / Re: What if gold is produced in lab? on: December 14, 2012, 09:32:29 PM
Pffft I'm sure that's the kind of thing they said about flight and look what happened then, humanity needs to do this kind of thing for its survival, if we don't we'll blow each other up over the only remaining resource left on this planet.

Off-planet mining is crazy. Its way too dangerous and expensive. Its not beyond our capabilities, but its just way out there. Totally different from building the first airplane. The Wright brother's first airplane cost $22,000 in today's dollars to build. [source]

If energy was free, and we could build bomb-proof robot spacecraft that could go 10% of the speed of light for next to nothing, then it'd be different. Mars rovers cost hundreds of millions each, and it's totally unsuitable for resource harvesting. NASA is ecstatic every time they have a successful Mars mission (and they should be).
785  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] NEED $4000 WORTH BITCOINS WEEKLY (NORTH NJ) on: December 14, 2012, 06:39:28 AM
I have a feeling whoever supplies this guy with bitcoins will get raided by the DEA.

What the DEA doesn't know won't hurt zThermal.
786  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How did you find out about Bitcoin? on: December 14, 2012, 02:40:55 AM
My first real bitcoin disclosure was from episode 287 of Security Now in February 2011.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQPSwA2Itbs

I don't watch the show regularly, I just happened across it.  Within hours I was mining with my Core 2 Duo CPU & a Radeon 4870.

10 weeks later, I was running a 4 g/hash mining farm.  Smiley




787  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-12-13 Hackernews - news.ycombinator.com - 4chan accepts Bitcoin on: December 13, 2012, 04:26:21 PM
Member count is what I meant to say.

Can we then safely estimate 10x more visitors than members, based on the post count of nearly 1 billion ?  ( Shocked)

http://www.big-boards.com/
788  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-12-13 Hackernews - news.ycombinator.com - 4chan accepts Bitcoin on: December 13, 2012, 04:11:44 PM
Its ranked as 2nd largest forum on the internet, however that ranking is achieved with post count alone. Member ranking count is much lower, just under 100k. That doesn't make sense to me. Does 4chan have many non-member visitors?

789  Economy / Goods / [WTB] Cowboy Studio Lighting Kit shipped express in Canada on: December 12, 2012, 08:35:29 PM
They won't do express shipping.

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008S1W19Q/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=AYYB6OSI63NRK

Can someone in Canada find this kit elsewhere that will ship express?

790  Economy / Goods / [WTB] Good quality used racing wheel on: December 12, 2012, 08:33:23 PM
Don't want to spend a lot, but I still want a decent wheel.

Logitech Driving Force GT is a good one, anyone have a used one?

Shipped to Canada.
791  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Are Bitcoin's virtual property? on: December 12, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
If bitcoins are virtual property, does that mean bitcoin thieves should be put in virtual jail?  Grin

NO INTERNET FOR YOU, PIRATE@40.
792  Economy / Goods / Re: Corsair K60 - Mechanical Keyboard (Great for gaming) on: December 11, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
Nice keyboard. I have its big brother the K90. Love, love, love it, but I didn't go with the K60 for one simple reason: no backlight.
793  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: December 11, 2012, 05:33:44 PM
There very likely would be less crime if there were no spanking. A large body of research suggest that gentle, nurturing parenting is associated with vast improvements in outcomes during adulthood.

The implication here is that parents who spank their children are not gentle and nurturing. I reject that assumption as false and unscientific.

Parenting is not a hard science. Its futile to try to develop a blanket approach because every child is different. Children are not lab experiments.

How does that make spanking a defense for criminal acts?

It doesn't. Read the paragraph again.

[PS Don't be an idiot and tell me that you know plenty of people who were spanked and turned out just fine. I'll retch. Learn some science.]

Don't presume to dismiss offhand my observations with personal attacks, while on the other hand, you cite unnamed third party research as a good source of information on the subject. Unless of course you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I'm a pathological liar or insane.

Finally, MoonShadow, I'm not trying to imply that you are necessarily damaging your children. There is probably a lot of non-harmful spanking mixed in with abusive spanking. In a statistical study, all you would observe is the average outcome associated with all spanking. And the stuff done in humans has lots of problems with research design, adding to the confusion.

I don't believe there is any kind of spanking that has a neutral effect. There is this pervasive and disturbing attitude that ALL pain is bad. That's a false assumption. There is no such thing as "bad pain", although bad actions can cause pain. The human body depends heavily on pain to regulate our behavior and keep us safe and healthy, yet we don't assign "evil" or "barbaric" labels to it. So there's a double standard here that somehow being human places on us the responsibility to never cause the slightest amount of pain to others, regardless of the intention, method, or situation. Would you cause pain to a human being in order to help them? Think about that.

794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [FS] ◄ Tokina 12-24 f4 DX Canon-mount DSLR lens ► BTC, LTC, PPC accepted on: December 11, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87233.0
795  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: December 11, 2012, 03:23:32 PM

This comment contains pretty much every barbaric dismsssal and apology for  child abuse commonly vomited by sociopaths who can't stand abuse being discussed and feel the urgent need to sabotage said discussions.


This sentence contains very little intelligent matter. It is a violent, hateful personal attack.

I won't be responding to their sort of garbage.............

Violence is not a response? Hahahahahahaa!

because it is pretty clear that this schmuck did not bother to actually give a responsive reply to what I said, preferring instead to go with the misrepresentation / manipulation angle (e.g. I never spoke about what criminals deserve)............

You implied that there would be LESS crime if there were no spanking. That is a defense for criminal acts. You're bailing out of that defense now?

and the faux indignation lecture ("who are you to...").  

I'm not indignant. YOU'RE indignant! eg. "WHO ARE YOU TO SPANK YOUR CHILDREN!!  HUFF HUFF PUFF!!!"   Roll Eyes

You had a chance to make an argument, you chose attacks and fogging. Congratulations, you earn a speedy ticket to my ignore list.

The only thing I'm attacking is your swiss cheese of an argument. Ignore, so soon? Awwww. You're too kind. Cool

796  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Corporal Punishment (Re: Our response to Dmytri Kleiner's misunderstanding of money on: December 11, 2012, 06:15:48 AM
Criminals almost universally were victims of child abuse -- verbal violence, physical violence, sexual violence.

Cry a river for these criminals, will you? There is hardly a criminal in prison who doesn't deserve to be where they are.

Who are you to tell anyone that your morality is morally superior? Great example of circular reasoning.

Violence among adults is learned largely from spankings? Ridiculous. Even if that were true, ending spanking would not solve crime. Every human being knows how to make a fist.

ALL the people I know who were spanked as kids (hundreds, I live in a small town) are good people, successful, a benefit to society, not prone to violence. I don't know a single person in prison, who has been to prison, or who has been charged with a crime. I speak from EXPERIENCE, not from a position of imagined moral or intellectual superiority.

The argument in this thread against spanking is logically unsound in several key areas. What does that say about the premise itself?
797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This article is too awesome... Bitcoin FTW at Money2020 on: December 11, 2012, 12:27:20 AM
I find it truly bizarre that in some sort of self-flagellating attempt at pre-emption - any Bitcoin evangelist would mention child porn in a pitch.


Agreed. CP is so thoroughly evil that its shameful just to mention it casually.
798  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What's a Better Asset right now: Silver or Bitcoins? on: December 10, 2012, 04:11:01 AM
I'd rather have silver because the value of Silver remains the same however the value of Bitcoins are changing.

Funny! Silver is the 2nd most volatile commodity out there, just behind bitcoins.
799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin price headed down on: December 08, 2012, 08:25:50 PM
Please state your past correct predictions

This thread was more of an experiment than a prediction.

Cool in you own way you just admitted spreading FUD. Tongue


800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin price headed down on: December 06, 2012, 11:56:12 PM
Please state your past correct predictions

This thread was more of an experiment than a prediction.
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