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781  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. on: April 10, 2012, 11:24:51 PM
Well I wish I could spend time on little things like linuxcoin. Maybe I'll find the time to make linuxcoin into something more in the future.
Why not just release your live-build configs and such?  Shouldn't everything linuxcoin just be in a folder you can make public?

I would have donated a long while ago if you hadn't abandoned the project with no source and no ability to move it forward.  And it has nothing to do with the abandonment, and everything to do with not being able to move forward. I went to BAMT and have been happy with it, but I still see a future for Linuxcoin.


Didn't exist Tongue I didn't use debian's live scripts to create linuxcoin it was all thrown together not really knowing the fully how to put a more official version together so it was all laid out in a folder on an old laptop. Unfortunately I lost the "source".
Ah okay.  Well thats too bad then Sad
782  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: April 10, 2012, 11:22:59 PM
Hey guys, looking to further optimize my 5970 rig.  I was completely stable prior to the 0.5 release and now having to reboot my box twice daily to keep the cards from faulting.  I was pulling about 330 MHx2 and was hoping someone else who is using a similar card could share an idea or two on what I could to to push up the limit some.   I've also noticed that my second GPU's Mem is clocking at 1000 Mhz when I've told it to stay at 175.  Am I doing something stupid?

Here's my current configuration:

Code:
gpu0:
  disabled: 0
  # optional command to execute prior to overclocking
  pre_oc_cmd: /etc/init.d/munin-node restart

  #overclocking.. all optional 955/830
  fan_speed: 100
  core_speed_0: 730
  core_speed_1: 730
  core_speed_2: 730
  mem_speed_0: 175
  mem_speed_1: 175
  mem_speed_2: 175
  # core_voltage_0: 1.125
  # core_voltage_1: 1.125
  # core_voltage_2: 1.125000

  # optional command to execute after overclocking
  post_oc_cmd:

  # kernel to use.. currently one of:  phatk phatk2 phatk-bamt04 phatk-svn phatk-1.50 poclbm
  kernel: phatk2
  # phoenix style kernel params.  do not include DEVICE=x
  kernel_params: BFI_INT VECTORS FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=13 WORKSIZE=128

  # file containing pool URLs
  pool_file: /etc/bamt/pools
  # default time to allow phoenix to run without finding a share.. exceed this and we move to next pool in poolfile
  pool_timeout: 180

  # monitoring values, used by email alerts and gpumon
  monitor_temp_lo: 45
  monitor_temp_hi: 80
  monitor_load_lo: 80
  monitor_hash_lo: 125
  monitor_fan_lo: 2000
  monitor_reject_hi: 2

gpu1:
  disabled: 0
  # optional command to execute prior to overclocking
  pre_oc_cmd:

  #overclocking.. all optional
  # fan_speed: 80
  core_speed_0: 730
  core_speed_1: 730
  core_speed_2: 730
  mem_speed_0: 175
  mem_speed_1: 175
  mem_speed_2: 175
  # core_voltage_0: 1.088
  # core_voltage_1: 1.088
  # core_voltage_2: 1.088

  # optional command to execute after overclocking
  post_oc_cmd:

  # kernel to use.. currently one of:  phatk phatk2 phatk-bamt04 phatk-svn phatk-1.50 poclbm
  kernel: phatk2
  # phoenix style kernel params.  do not include DEVICE=x
  kernel_params: BFI_INT VECTORS FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=13 WORKSIZE=128

  # file containing pool URLs
  pool_file: /etc/bamt/pools
  # default time to allow phoenix to run without finding a share.. exceed this and we move to next pool in poolfile
  pool_timeout: 180

  # monitoring values, used by email alerts and gpumon
  monitor_temp_lo: 45
  monitor_temp_hi: 80
  monitor_load_lo: 80
  monitor_hash_lo: 125
  monitor_fan_lo: 2000
  monitor_reject_hi: 2
Im propably the biggest noob who dares give advice here so you might want to wait for confirmation but to me it seems that your feeding stock voltage to a highly underclocked card. It may or may not be the source of your problems, but either way I'd lower the core voltage.
As mentioned multiple times in this thread, do not change profiles 0 and 1 unless you need to.   You can cause instability by OCing the lower profiles.[/size] Profile 2 is what is used during mining.

Loud and clear Lodcrappo, thanks.  Smiley - So... can I just comment out profiles 0 and 1 and let them run stock with settings for 2 at what I have them at?  Is that the preferred method?  Thanks again everyone! 

Leave
Code:
  mem_speed_0: 175
  mem_speed_1: 175
  mem_speed_2: 175

But you don't need to set the clocks or voltage for profiles 0 and 1
783  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The responses I from Bitcoin discussions. on: April 10, 2012, 11:20:18 PM
Once again, I'm talking about bitcoin right now, not in some hypothetical future.  I think getting investors NOW by telling them that legal protections will be here eventually is a pretty tough sell.

I'd love to read some links about the police returning some stolen coins. Got any? Did the linode coins get returned?  What about that first major theft back in June? Mybitcoin?

Well let's not jump too far in the other direction. I haven't heard about returned coins -- it's a bit like cash and thieves surely just hide it somewhere. Since it's not illegal, I don't see why law enforcement wouldn't at least try to investigate thefts.
Jump too far? You said you had heard about "police, courts of law and so forth, interacting with Bitcoin users to catch thieves" and I asked for links...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55191.0
And there's the "legal" subforum, so you're not alone in asking these questions.
So it looks like you are the one who jumped too far...
784  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: April 10, 2012, 10:54:19 PM
Lots of interesting designs/concepts in here, ranging from messy-all-over-the-place setups to neatly organized racks. Mine use to be inside just a normal case, but temperatures got too high so now mine is the first option I mentioned haha. Takes up so much dam space.
You will eventually forge order from the chaos, just as we all eventually do.

Well, some of us do, at least...  Grin
I've never seen a server rack start messy and get better. Ever. Grin

I have only seen neatly organized racks stay neat and neatly organized racks become a rat's nest of ethernet and power cables.
785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The responses I from Bitcoin discussions. on: April 10, 2012, 10:52:15 PM
Once again, I'm talking about bitcoin right now, not in some hypothetical future.  I think getting investors NOW by telling them that legal protections will be here eventually is a pretty tough sell.

I'd love to read some links about the police returning some stolen coins. Got any? Did the linode coins get returned?  What about that first major theft back in June? Mybitcoin?

Well let's not jump too far in the other direction. I haven't heard about returned coins -- it's a bit like cash and thieves surely just hide it somewhere. Since it's not illegal, I don't see why law enforcement wouldn't at least try to investigate thefts.
Jump too far? You said you had heard about "police, courts of law and so forth, interacting with Bitcoin users to catch thieves" and I asked for links...
786  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. on: April 10, 2012, 10:49:52 PM
Well I wish I could spend time on little things like linuxcoin. Maybe I'll find the time to make linuxcoin into something more in the future.
Why not just release your live-build configs and such?  Shouldn't everything linuxcoin just be in a folder you can make public?

I would have donated a long while ago if you hadn't abandoned the project with no source and no ability to move it forward.  And it has nothing to do with the abandonment, and everything to do with not being able to move forward. I went to BAMT and have been happy with it, but I still see a future for Linuxcoin.
787  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Bitcoin Savings and Trust on: April 10, 2012, 10:45:31 PM
I'm kind of sad it's no longer called First Pirate Savings & Trust.  Sad

+1

Have another +1!
Why did it change?  I looked at my "new replies to your posts" and was like "I don't remember posting there"
788  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: April 10, 2012, 10:43:34 PM
Is there any way to add public keys to a watching-only wallet?

I want to monitor some addresses on a web wallet from inside Armory.  For now, I imported the private key, turned the wallet into a watching-only wallet, and then flagged it as owned by someone else.  This works fine for now, but is a bit too many steps and a pain to do again if I add more keys.

Red Emerald,

I had some reservations about enabling this.  While it's possible under the hood, there's risk of users adding watching-only addresses to the wallet, in a variety of ways.  The most important is that someone sneaks their own address into your wallet then sends you money to it making you believe that it's yours.  This is normally prevented due to requiring an encryption password to inject keys into your regular full wallets.

Also, mixing regular wallets with foreign keys can create lots of confusion the same way:  users add addresses on their own for a variety of reason, and then forget or don't realize what they're doing, and trick themselves into believing they have more money than they do.  it can be a mess, later, to figure out what keys are "legit" and which aren't (without comparing the WO wallet with the full wallet addr list).

This way, the only way to add an address to a wallet is by the person that has the private key for that address.  It's quite inconvenient (as you determined), but adds a certain robustness for users that are less knowledgeable.

I'll spend some time thinking about how to enable this responsibly.  Perhaps only in Dev mode...?   (though it doesn't solve the problem of someone sneaking a key into your wallet)
Developer mode only maybe?

Or maybe a third wallet type.  Something that lets you just watch any number of arbitrary bitcoin addresses.  These funds would not show in your spendable balance, but would make it easy to track funds and label transactions for your own bookkeeping.

I want an easy way to watch my blockchain.info address and an old paper wallet from one place.  Right now I just lookup my addresses on blockchain.info and then keep the totals in a spreadsheet. 

This is definitely low priority.
789  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: BitPak - The Bitcoin Wallet for iOS on: April 10, 2012, 10:37:53 PM
The download of the chain took almost a week (ok i only have 4k internet here....) i transfered 3 bitcoin to it and they are not showing up, since a week....

Im curious why this is so damn slow ......

Left the phone open all night for almost three weeks now, with the app in foreground. I'll try it at home with my 16k internet today.

Waste of money and time imo (voll der Dreck) Sad There is just no usefull BTC wallet app for iOS. But if you want a nice Bitcoin app with active support, get BTCmon !

voll der dreck, indeed.

there's a acceptable solution, the blockchain.info client: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75673.0
it's still buggy on my iPod, but seems to work for most people. Good design and acceptable security.

you need jailbreak or korean iTunes account (one is provided in thread or on page, dont remember which)

You can also use the website directly on your phone.  I have the jailbroken app installed on my old phone and just browse to blockchain.info on my current phone.  It doesn't have as good of a theme, but seems to actually be a little faster and more stable (although the iphone app seems to be getting better and better every patch)
790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Encourage George Zimmerman (Florida self-defense shooting victim) to accept BTC on: April 10, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eLiJ4k5QPNs

Calling for vigilantes to fight vigilanteism... makes sense to me....
791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The responses I from Bitcoin discussions. on: April 10, 2012, 10:29:46 PM

And are you saying that if a bunch of people got together and put a bunch of money into bitcoin, they couldn't play the market or fux with the price?  I don't see how that makes any sense considering lots of people with smallish amounts of money have made money so far.

They could try, but on average they will lose money. It would be generally ineffective.
What makes you say they would lose money and be ineffective?  I'm an engineer, not an economist (although I may have enjoyed college more as the latter), and am curious.  It seems to me someone with a large % of the market should be able to profit, otherwise monopolies wouldn't be a thing, right?
792  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Encourage George Zimmerman (Florida self-defense shooting victim) to accept BTC on: April 10, 2012, 10:19:33 PM
huh? after all that you you say improve your english ? LOL

so yes who cares if the TSA is located at places where the public is at  more power to them!

I don't understand you most of the time. Broken english.


Can we get back to Martin/Zimmerman? Mentioning ggb's poor grammar/spelling is not helping anyone.
793  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The responses I from Bitcoin discussions. on: April 10, 2012, 10:17:33 PM
[snip] ....Bitcoin where there are no regulatory bodies by design?

Why do people keep saying that there are no regulatory bodies to back Bitcoin? Even I've been here long enough to hear about police, courts of law and so forth, interacting with Bitcoin users to catch thieves for example, and I haven't even been here that long. If Bitcoin one day grows to such a degree that it literally starves a government of essential tax funding, then society can start worrying about instituting workable means of compensating public servants.
Once again, I'm talking about bitcoin right now, not in some hypothetical future.  I think getting investors NOW by telling them that legal protections will be here eventually is a pretty tough sell.

I'd love to read some links about the police returning some stolen coins. Got any? Did the linode coins get returned?  What about that first major theft back in June? Mybitcoin?
794  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Encourage George Zimmerman (Florida self-defense shooting victim) to accept BTC on: April 10, 2012, 10:04:23 PM
I'm a member of the NRA and I think the stand your ground law is prefectly fine.  But by all reports I've seen, Zimmerman put himself in the "dangerous situation" (still no proof presented that he even has a broken nose. I've only read the word of the attorney) and I just can't see how that falls under Stand Your Ground.

If I have a gun on me, go up to you and provoke a fight, and then shoot you, that should not be legal.  Hell, people in California have been convicted for assault with a deadly weapon for kicking someone with steel-toed boots, so a gun should at least be a little more serious, right?

So tell me - if you someone punches you and brakes your nose. Do you think you would be within your right to shoot the person back?

At what point does shooting become acceptable?
When there is "threat to life or limb" is the legal wording.  Now figuring that part out is the trick Smiley  It's incredibly situational and sadly, I don't think we will ever know the situation that led to Travon Martin being shot.


I found this article and for just a second thought that the TSA had actually stopped a terrorist. Sadly... they were mistaken

http://airnation.net/2012/01/03/man-arrested-midland-explosives-expert/

Oh and this.  They really do a good job.

http://airnation.net/2012/03/03/tsa-apologizes-breast-pump/

And this list is actually from the TSA!

http://blog.tsa.gov/2012/01/tsa-top-10-good-catches-of-2011.html
795  Economy / Services / Re: League of Legends Referrals on: April 10, 2012, 09:55:42 PM
Got my digital collector's pack! Thanks!
796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Encourage George Zimmerman (Florida self-defense shooting victim) to accept BTC on: April 10, 2012, 09:54:29 PM
Wow, your kidding right ? So, if we allow everyone and anyone to board a plane they WILL not bring anything on board to bring down the plane ?   No, TSA and specifically airport screening has been around for 50 years thus preventing bombs for being on planes got it ?  ...I'm sure rjk would say that is "taking his rights" away in some fashion.
You can't see the forrest for the trees, right? Alright then, I'll leave you to it. Roll Eyes

You never answered what "rights" are being taken away ?  Not my fault!   Roll Eyes
How about the 4th amendment right to not be searched without probable cause?

lol... so you are ok with bombs being allowed on a plane ?   If you don't like it don't board a plane how about that?

edit: I know its all warm and fuzzy feeling inside having it your way but life doesn't work that way.
How do you read any of this and think it means that people who are against the TSA want a bomb on every plane? wtf.




Back on Topic.  I don't think there is anything about race here.  The Daily Show did a pretty funny bit about it.  Mexican guy with a Jewish name shooting a black guy.  How can race not be involved?!

I'm a member of the NRA and I think the stand your ground law is prefectly fine.  But by all reports I've seen, Zimmerman put himself in the "dangerous situation" (still no proof presented that he even has a broken nose. I've only read the word of the attorney) and I just can't see how that falls under Stand Your Ground.

If I have a gun on me, go up to you and provoke a fight, and then shoot you, that should not be legal.  Hell, people in California have been convicted for assault with a deadly weapon for kicking someone with steel-toed boots, so a gun should at least be a little more serious, right?
797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The responses I from Bitcoin discussions. on: April 10, 2012, 09:28:53 PM
Can't effectively collude? You are kidding right? At least with fiat there is an infrastructure for trying to stop it.

What do you think people will do with something like Bitcoin where there are no regulatory bodies by design?
How exactly could multiple parties manipulate the exchange price without losing money on average? It's hard enough doing it on your own without having to worry about being double-crossed.
How can you be double crossed if you are on your own? That makes no sense to me.

Also, haven't you heard of the Manipulator? Wink

And are you saying that if a bunch of people got together and put a bunch of money into bitcoin, they couldn't play the market or fux with the price?  I don't see how that makes any sense considering lots of people with smallish amounts of money have made money so far.


They won't collude because someone has to lose to win.  Look at the Forex market.  Trillions of dollars change hands every day.  With millions of participants and trillions of dollars manipulating the market is nearly impossible.
If we get to the point of "millions of participants and trillions of dollars" then there are plenty of people available to take advantage of.  However, using markets that are incredibly large to defend how market manipulation is impossible in our tiny market doesn't make much sense to me.

While on the road to that beautiful world where everyone uses Bitcoin, I believe we have to be careful of pushing/using Bitcoin solely as an investment vehicle.  This is totally new ground and thinking that because it worked for Forex, it will work with Bitcoin is too simplistic.  Also, lots of people LOSE money on Forex since there are such small profit margins compared to other markets and because there are huge banks playing arbitrage to cut those margins smaller.

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More speculators (even driven for nothing but zero sum profits) will make the Bitcoin markets deeper.  Hopefully someday dropping 100K coins will barely cause a ripple.
Agreed, but that isn't now.  People can manipulate the price right now.  A 100k coin snowball would hurt really bad right now. 


tl;dr I am talking about bitcoin now, not in some hypothetical future, and Bitcoin is not yet big enough to stop people from manipulating the price.  If you really believe in Bitcoin, use it (and get others to use it) as more than an investment vehicle.

If you want bitcoin to succeed, use it as a currency.
798  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT version 0.5 - Easy USB based mining Linux with farm wide management tools on: April 10, 2012, 04:10:18 PM
Hey guys, looking to further optimize my 5970 rig.  I was completely stable prior to the 0.5 release and now having to reboot my box twice daily to keep the cards from faulting.  I was pulling about 330 MHx2 and was hoping someone else who is using a similar card could share an idea or two on what I could to to push up the limit some.   I've also noticed that my second GPU's Mem is clocking at 1000 Mhz when I've told it to stay at 175.  Am I doing something stupid?

Here's my current configuration:

Code:
gpu0:
  disabled: 0
  # optional command to execute prior to overclocking
  pre_oc_cmd: /etc/init.d/munin-node restart

  #overclocking.. all optional 955/830
  fan_speed: 100
  core_speed_0: 730
  core_speed_1: 730
  core_speed_2: 730
  mem_speed_0: 175
  mem_speed_1: 175
  mem_speed_2: 175
  # core_voltage_0: 1.125
  # core_voltage_1: 1.125
  # core_voltage_2: 1.125000

  # optional command to execute after overclocking
  post_oc_cmd:

  # kernel to use.. currently one of:  phatk phatk2 phatk-bamt04 phatk-svn phatk-1.50 poclbm
  kernel: phatk2
  # phoenix style kernel params.  do not include DEVICE=x
  kernel_params: BFI_INT VECTORS FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=13 WORKSIZE=128

  # file containing pool URLs
  pool_file: /etc/bamt/pools
  # default time to allow phoenix to run without finding a share.. exceed this and we move to next pool in poolfile
  pool_timeout: 180

  # monitoring values, used by email alerts and gpumon
  monitor_temp_lo: 45
  monitor_temp_hi: 80
  monitor_load_lo: 80
  monitor_hash_lo: 125
  monitor_fan_lo: 2000
  monitor_reject_hi: 2

gpu1:
  disabled: 0
  # optional command to execute prior to overclocking
  pre_oc_cmd:

  #overclocking.. all optional
  # fan_speed: 80
  core_speed_0: 730
  core_speed_1: 730
  core_speed_2: 730
  mem_speed_0: 175
  mem_speed_1: 175
  mem_speed_2: 175
  # core_voltage_0: 1.088
  # core_voltage_1: 1.088
  # core_voltage_2: 1.088

  # optional command to execute after overclocking
  post_oc_cmd:

  # kernel to use.. currently one of:  phatk phatk2 phatk-bamt04 phatk-svn phatk-1.50 poclbm
  kernel: phatk2
  # phoenix style kernel params.  do not include DEVICE=x
  kernel_params: BFI_INT VECTORS FASTLOOP=false AGGRESSION=13 WORKSIZE=128

  # file containing pool URLs
  pool_file: /etc/bamt/pools
  # default time to allow phoenix to run without finding a share.. exceed this and we move to next pool in poolfile
  pool_timeout: 180

  # monitoring values, used by email alerts and gpumon
  monitor_temp_lo: 45
  monitor_temp_hi: 80
  monitor_load_lo: 80
  monitor_hash_lo: 125
  monitor_fan_lo: 2000
  monitor_reject_hi: 2
Im propably the biggest noob who dares give advice here so you might want to wait for confirmation but to me it seems that your feeding stock voltage to a highly underclocked card. It may or may not be the source of your problems, but either way I'd lower the core voltage.
As mentioned multiple times in this thread, do not change profiles 0 and 1 unless you need to.   You can cause instability by OCing the lower profiles. Profile 2 is what is used during mining.
799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The responses I from Bitcoin discussions. on: April 10, 2012, 04:06:05 PM
Can't effectively collude? You are kidding right? At least with fiat there is an infrastructure for trying to stop it.

What do you think people will do with something like Bitcoin where there are no regulatory bodies by design?
800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The responses I from Bitcoin discussions. on: April 10, 2012, 05:20:25 AM
I wish people would stop calling bitcoin an investment.
It is part of the experiment.
So donīt worry about it, it is necessary for its survival.

Indeed. More investors -> more market liquidity -> more price stability -> better currency.
But if those investors don't actually use the currency for anything, then we won't actually have a better currency.  We will just have a bunch of speculators who will want large price swings because that is how they make their money.
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