AMT - I have been more than patient and understanding regarding delays and lack of updates etc. I will not be anymore. I have spoken to my attorney this morning, and am going to be joining the class action suit against you. I formally request a refund for my two ordered miners for order 899, as I do not even wish to receive the miners anymore since they are so unprofitable now - and only one of them actually works (for now) in the wild. You're shipping ability mirrors that of a toddler, and your ability to communicate with your customers is nonexistent.
Please refund me in full the $12,158 I spent on the miners and expedited shipping. I do not wish to receive your product any longer.
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I said that you sound like him that is all....
You know the saying a lie repeated 100 times becomes true so that is what me and Phinn do we will repeat that a lie said even million times stays lie
I don't know that quote. And a lie is a lie, it never becomes the truth. Give us customers some credit. We do have brains. And in todays Google and Search world, you don't need to say it 100 times for people to find and read it. As for Phinn, he is not in the same category as you. AMT is using his so called confession video as proof that their product is great. So in doing so, AMT has declared Phinn as their official spokes person and has made him part of their family ! So I would take Phinn's word and forum posts over yours. Also AMT themselves in the video is saying that he's a great guy  So why shouldn't I believe him? By the way Phinn, they are using your material for marketing purposes. Make sure they are paying you royalties Agreed but I am sure you have brains and you are not stupid. But your brains just refuse to accept what is going on..... Something like yea we know yeah we are not stupid but eventually somehow in someway things are about to happen That is the part you have to change Or eventually someday somehow when it happens you will realism that you have Been robbed and Zipkin will go way clean out of it Do not respond me dude I got your point I hope you got mine also You say not to respond but you want to end it with an insult to us customers again. How do "our" brains "just refuse to accept what is going on....." ? We know what's going on and we are the ones that have been financially hit. What you are saying to ALL the customers here is to "lose all hope" give up and just lay down and accept it. Well, we are not going to lie down Loshia because you say that the game is up. We are demanding AMT to assist us. And this is the forum to do so. As for robbing, if we ultimately get nothing then EVERYONE will sue them and join the class action lawsuit. That's the good part about a class action. Any customer can join easily. So what's your issue? and what new point are you trying to make?? The point I always make as soon you begin to fight better for you.! Do not let them lie you any more.... Did I said it simple enough? Do not wait even a sec more go to court immediately and ask for refund Is it so hard to get it? |
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You know I am not amt advocate but the right way should be to market less performance taking into account this or to be able to compensate this with slight overclock from software Again amt are not guilty just because chips are as they are DOA Let us say a chip gas 30 working cores instead of 32 you can not garbige it. You need a man power to replace it and you happen to have new chip with 25 cores for instance. And so on and on However I do agree that if the product is underperforming badly they should locate the worst performing boards and replace them But this tis their final t problem to solve  Their cooling and quality is crappy as he'll this is the main issue For instance bitmine is selling 5 modules for 1t So are amt better then him to sell 5 modules for 1.2 t Have you heard officially that they will ship 6 modules in their 1.2 t machines? Have you heard that 1500 w psu will blow with 6 modules That is the issue + bad quality leads you to 866 GH in best case scenario Their cooling will not last long chips will melt To make 1.2 they have to send at lest 7 modules which are best of the best amongst crap This ain't going to happen though |
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The company I ordered to 4-pin cable from just called. They are out of stock and will take 2-3 more days for that particular part to arrive in their warehouse. I asked if they had anything else that would work. They found a Y cable that they would will work and they are sending it instead. The price for the new cable is more expensive but they are price matching it and sending it anyway. I received a lot better customer service for a 93 cent part than I did after spending 6 grand.
You can buy any cheap fan and just rip the cable Make sure it is Pvm fan It is a cable fan- connector right? With no documentation from AMT I'm not 100% sure what it is. The fans supplied on the unit have 3-pin connectors which worked by plugging them into the 4-pin connector on the controller. Did mell replied what is it....? You can ask in bitmine threads. The Psb is copy paste from there. |
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The company I ordered to 4-pin cable from just called. They are out of stock and will take 2-3 more days for that particular part to arrive in their warehouse. I asked if they had anything else that would work. They found a Y cable that they would will work and they are sending it instead. The price for the new cable is more expensive but they are price matching it and sending it anyway. I received a lot better customer service for a 93 cent part than I did after spending 6 grand.
You can buy any cheap fan and just rip the cable Make sure it is Pvm fan It is a cable fan- connector right? |
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Some more CONFIRMED FACTS: According to this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569769.msg6227903#msg6227903And this  5 blades would be 520 / 3 *5 866 GH 6 blades 1040 GH To all customers - you are scammed and fucked. If you got 5 blades for 1.2 Miner that means you will get 866GH instead if you got 6 blades by accident it would be 1040 GH And the above would be true only if you have the mell luck to receive some crap that works I am not mentioning the power consumption though And of course the desert late delivery Ask for your money people! Immediate refund! if your going to quote something please include the reply. especially if you pulling it from another thread. the 3 cards we have would do over 750ghs in turbo mode. in nominal mode they should be doing around 6-650 as i said before i believe we are under running the card due to heat issues like with an eruptor it nonces when too hot and the "kits" get hot hot. this is from a kit its not a full amt finished product that has the cooling they have in the finished kit. its a work in progress. it works its in hand. just not running optimally. this is why i wouldnt of posted it as i knew it would get ripped. your 1.2 machines will do 1.2 +/-10% which gets it as low as 1080 and at a minimum..... keep an eye on the "official thread" for our updates. and losh will no doubt post it here with his spin. :-p no offence losh Dude there is no reply from mell Is that true? Honestly speaking I missed your reply ...anyway I will speak from my experience 1. Eight chips are capable 270 GH. That is what I have archived with Technobit boards stable for a week. Then I decided that it is too dangerous and slowed down Back to amt This guys still do not know how much power they need. So in terms of turbo kit option is what you would go for. I can assure you that so called turbo mod in a PC box with such a small heatsinks and two crappy fans is madness complete suicide what you will get would be smoke only Besides for turbo mode you have to able to mod both chip clock and voltage via software. Do you have such option yes/no? About your famous 200 GH in nominal mode The above graph clearly shows what I exactly said 520 on AVARAGE for 3 modules. Is that true? And again the reason for this is: 1. Some of the chips are crappy with dead cores. Not amt fault so it is a pure luck how many healthy chips with 100% working cores you will get in your modules. On AVARAGE you are loosing about 5-10 % percent just because of that 2. You need good cooling so that it can work. Have you seen the pictures of do it kits with melted and us soldered chips? I have seen the you can look at amt thread if you wih. Why this happens because amt wer not applied a thermal paste or because there was something wrong and contact was bad. Amt dolling sucks the need bigger radiators for sure with much better airflow And so on and on Stop taking pink pills dude Ask again mell what is the AVARAGE performance and do the math Have in mind that mell got lucky and received the best of the best amongst their crap |
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Sadly there is NO clear winner in the mining game now for anyone not investing >$1MM  That was always going to be the case really. Agreed - I was just hoping it would happen later No always. this will continue up to the point that production costs for a single asic chip will not roi The margins of ASIC chip suppliers are not bad at all x20 or x30 But it is just a matter of time this to happen And they will just stop fabricate asic chips immediately. Maybe in a year who knows  |
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Guys,
Getting back to everyone now. New back planes are running. Apologies if anyone received poorly shipped miners. Threats of legal issues have set us back financially and production wise as well, but we'll get through it. Several miners went out over the last few days as well, not sure if it was anyone from this thread.
Update is 61 miners/rigs between last week and this week so far.
Please don't think we went missing or forgot about you or are stalling as some of you have suggested, we're currently figuring out realistic options to hopefully satisfy everyone in the end.
at the end?? ROFL next week month or year will be the end The end is after a month or so guy's |
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Up: Please advise on order 958, FedEx was supposed to pick this damaged miner up on Monday and they did not. Should I call them myself? I want to be done with this game.
Zipkin Poserko  Instead moderating your treads and deleting my posts it is better to give some answers to your PAYING customers As i told you already the smell is unbearable No matter how hard you try and moderate your topics you are almost done What happens guys is that most of precious amt time is taken by me and phin to moderate their thread and they continue to bulshit YOU Once again Ask for your money |
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API running in local read Access mode on port 4028 (9)
Whats wrong? I starting cgminer so:
sudo ./cgminer -c cgminer.conf --hexminerb-options 16:540 --hexminerb-voltage 1000 --set_default_to_b
Remove cgminer.conf Give your pools as command line option |
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using chrome  Thx for the help Was already expecting problems like this, so i've got two routers. one for actual using and a spare 1 for upgrade. This buys me time to upgrade Cool |
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opieum2, Stan-O Congrats guy's Welcome to the light sight. No seriously guy's My irony probably and phinn also is just here to show you what is going on with zipkin. I am not happy and phin also when you are fucked. I am serious here So if chose to wait for your products as I call them crap there is a light in the tunnel - seems mellbro made it work. So there is some chance that you will get something which is ok and working. But it will be a lot less in performance because it is undervolted and there are about 3-5% dead cores - not amt fault chips are as they are. I am not commenting power this chip needs power and coolong. But i just can not understand why AMT keep silent about the facts which no matter how bright engineers they have they will not be able to change anything. In short to you and to the rest of amt customers Ask for refund if you can - best option looks like the only rigs that actually hash at advertised rates are the bitfury based machines. 80/120, etc. That's because technobit put them together. all AMT did was add a PSU, USB hub, and then slap them into a case. They are so sloppy, they can fuck up a rig that's 90% pre-assembled. so glad i thought better of going for one of the big miners. My 80gh rig still works, but it should have been upgraded to the 120 or 220, per the MPP. Right on spot That is why I always tell that amt is capable of duc taping Technobit boards only By the way all Technobit boards are class and work great. This is my personal experience. By ants or Technobit or whatever else you can think of but amt crap always will be a crap That is all Technobit is a bit overpriced, but they do ship a solid product. no issues with the Technobit parts, once i re-assembled the rig correctly, and removed it from its case. lol Maybe, I do not want to light a spark here but little overpriced coincraft Technobit boards are happily mining without an issue for two months now About prices I am not advocating for Technobit here but I think that the guilty ones are chip suppliers only I have always said that everyone deserves to make a money but selling bare chip with margins x 20 is unbearable For instance 16 coincraft chips do cost around 78 usd each 270 GH is around 1000 usd alone So? Big fucking nonces dude Yes board producer probably get discounts but there is no single chip at the market which can make roi of it is price alone S |
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I joined the class action, on the basis of failed MPP fulfillment and the $160 shipping refund they owe me. That is the way to go! For other folks Keep your dignity guy's and make them pay! |
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well i used your link. Download looks like previous one and same result Did an factory upgrade without keeping settings. Same with the upgrade file. Even extra reboot does not solve it Really dont know why i dont get the a3 option Hostname HEX16A Model TP-Link TL-MR3020 v1 Firmware Version OpenWrt Barrier Breaker r40296 / LuCI Trunk (svn-r9963) Kernel Version 3.10.34 Finally solved it. Went back to old image v 0.1.3 and then back again to this one. now i got the a3 option First time i did the update was with upgrade bin file. now i did use only the factory bin files. Is your ie cashing too much Usually the upgrade happens from the first try or shit happens and router became a brick But in your case it was the browser |
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opieum2, Stan-O Congrats guy's Welcome to the light sight. No seriously guy's My irony probably and phinn also is just here to show you what is going on with zipkin. I am not happy and phin also when you are fucked. I am serious here So if chose to wait for your products as I call them crap there is a light in the tunnel - seems mellbro made it work. So there is some chance that you will get something which is ok and working. But it will be a lot less in performance because it is undervolted and there are about 3-5% dead cores - not amt fault chips are as they are. I am not commenting power this chip needs power and coolong. But i just can not understand why AMT keep silent about the facts which no matter how bright engineers they have they will not be able to change anything. In short to you and to the rest of amt customers Ask for refund if you can - best option looks like the only rigs that actually hash at advertised rates are the bitfury based machines. 80/120, etc. That's because technobit put them together. all AMT did was add a PSU, USB hub, and then slap them into a case. They are so sloppy, they can fuck up a rig that's 90% pre-assembled. so glad i thought better of going for one of the big miners. My 80gh rig still works, but it should have been upgraded to the 120 or 220, per the MPP. Right on spot That is why I always tell that amt is capable of duc taping Technobit boards only By the way all Technobit boards are class and work great. This is my personal experience. By ants or Technobit or whatever else you can think of but amt crap always will be a crap That is all |
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Hello Guys, has anyone use the miner with a normaly 12V power supply? Must i use all 4 connectors from the molex of the miner or can i use only the 2 Pins for 12V? Please give me a quick answer  Two are enough |
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cgminer version 4.2.3 - Started: [2014-04-07 14:06:04]
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(5s):1.986T (1m):2.124T (5m):2.259T (15m):2.160T (avg):2.100Th/s
A:331377180 R:1003322 HW:3103982 WU:29338.8/m
Connected to stratum-lb-usa48.btcguild.com diff 1.02K with stratum as
Block: 5ea1ca8a... Diff:6.12G Started: [10:52:17] Best share: 239M
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[U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
0: HEX8 0 : 230 860/ 862mV | 75.55G / 234.5Gh/s WU:3276.1/m
1: HEX8 1 : 230 860/ 859mV | 1.868T / 231.2Gh/s WU:3230.0/m
2: HEX8 2 : 230 860/ 870mV | 98.01G / 233.5Gh/s WU:3262.3/m
3: HEX8 3 : 230 860/ 859mV | 319.8G / 233.6Gh/s WU:3262.8/m
4: HEX8 4 : 230 860/ 869mV | 8.597G / 228.7Gh/s WU:3195.6/m
5: HEX8 5 : 230 860/ 863mV | 934.5G / 236.0Gh/s WU:3296.9/m
6: HEX8 6 : 230 860/ 858mV | 77.34G / 234.1Gh/s WU:3270.8/m
7: HEX8 7 : 230 860/ 858mV | 29.11G / 235.2Gh/s WU:3286.0/m
8: HEX8 8 : 230 860/ 862mV | 14.12G / 233.2Gh/s WU:3258.3/m
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I see Ioshia gets the "good" chips Not he chips dude the setup and the software Any way cgminer-api stats | grep En Would give you how many engines are working it is normal to have some dead ones. That is the chip quality so check this and then we will talk again ok And besides i am not undervolting as you can see Post your cores count voltage and clock and we will do the math it is easy |
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Some more CONFIRMED FACTS: According to this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569769.msg6227903#msg6227903And this 5 blades would be 520 / 3 *5 866 GH 6 blades 1040 GH To all customers - you are scammed and fucked. If you got 5 blades for 1.2 Miner that means you will get 866GH instead if you got 6 blades by accident it would be 1040 GH And the above would be true only if you have the mell luck to receive some crap that works I am not mentioning the power consumption though And of course the desert late delivery Ask for your money people! Immediate refund! |
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Thanks the question! Hub is here. Yesterday I've restarted it and working since then. Now i won't touch until it stops, so I can post what dmesg shows, and I'll make the hub then. You had a good carma, the miner is afraid.. It will not stop Ops i have not said it  That is how tplink works when done things are done right Non stop since last cgminer upgrade cgminer version 4.2.3 - Started: [2014-04-07 14:06:04] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (5s):1.986T (1m):2.124T (5m):2.259T (15m):2.160T (avg):2.100Th/s A:331377180 R:1003322 HW:3103982 WU:29338.8/m Connected to stratum-lb-usa48.btcguild.com diff 1.02K with stratum as Block: 5ea1ca8a... Diff:6.12G Started: [10:52:17] Best share: 239M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SB management [P]ool management ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
0: HEX8 0 : 230 860/ 862mV | 75.55G / 234.5Gh/s WU:3276.1/m
1: HEX8 1 : 230 860/ 859mV | 1.868T / 231.2Gh/s WU:3230.0/m
2: HEX8 2 : 230 860/ 870mV | 98.01G / 233.5Gh/s WU:3262.3/m
3: HEX8 3 : 230 860/ 859mV | 319.8G / 233.6Gh/s WU:3262.8/m
4: HEX8 4 : 230 860/ 869mV | 8.597G / 228.7Gh/s WU:3195.6/m
5: HEX8 5 : 230 860/ 863mV | 934.5G / 236.0Gh/s WU:3296.9/m
6: HEX8 6 : 230 860/ 858mV | 77.34G / 234.1Gh/s WU:3270.8/m
7: HEX8 7 : 230 860/ 858mV | 29.11G / 235.2Gh/s WU:3286.0/m
8: HEX8 8 : 230 860/ 862mV | 14.12G / 233.2Gh/s WU:3258.3/m
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I'll post when something happens. (Hope nothing...) Only in btc world no news are good news |
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