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781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jamie Dimon said he would close Bitcoin down if he was in government on: January 09, 2024, 05:09:26 PM
I've spoken about Jamie here quite a bit, and my opinion still stands.  Jamie Dimon should be rotting in a jail cell right now, however he runs one of the worlds largest and most profitable scams.  Just take a look at how much JP Morgan Chase has in fraud violations since the year 2000.  Nearly 40 BILLION dollars   https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/jpmorgan-chase .  That's not a type.  This man is pure evil scum.  He doesn't like bitcoin because it goes against how he makes his millions. 
782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: January 09, 2024, 05:05:16 PM
Hey guys, I'm having a hard time trying to find a website that hosts these fantasy playoff deals.  I want to say I use to do it on ESPN but not finding anything there.  Also it looks like NFL.com has discontinued it for some reason - https://support.nfl.com/hc/en-us/articles/4989089337500-Playoff-Challenge
 / https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/190b9bj/nflcom_playoff_challenge_discontinued/?rdt=45228 .

I will keep looking but perhaps if I can't find one, would you guys be interested in some sort of playoff knock out pool where we all make picks and whomever get the most right wins the pot ( we could do something like $5-25 or whatever).

At minimum we should do a Super Bowl squares challenge.  Here's how that works - https://www.superbowlsquares.org/how-to-play
783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈 NCAA College Football Bowl Games /Playoffs/Championship on: January 09, 2024, 04:58:47 PM
Anyone catch the game last night? Not the best college national championship game I've ever seen as Michigan completely dominated Washington for most of the game.  I am so pissed at myself.  I put down just a very small bet and had intended on putting more down on the money line. I got caught up making dinner and showering and didn't realize the game started as early as it did ( I was thinking it was going to start about 30mns later than it did).

Anyways a win is a win I suppose.  Just wish it was for a bit more lol

784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bet on favorites early in the week & underdogs late in the week strategy... on: January 09, 2024, 04:52:37 PM
I'm a little bit bothered to call this rule of thumb. I mean, something is considered rule of thumb because it is generally right or accurate, therefore widely accepted. But I highly doubt the accuracy of this strategy. Surely, sports bettors don't just place a bet based on which player or team is the favorite and which is the underdog. Actually, it's only now that I heard of this approach or strategy in sports betting. I'm also not a professional bettor myself, so I could have missed this strategy. But I guess, now that I've learned it, I still won't apply it on my bets.

Well it is generally accurate.  Not sure why you're bothered by it. I thought I'd open this discussion just to see how many here had been utilizing this strategy and what they've seen by doing so.  This is simply how Vegas odds tend to shift over the week, or over time depending on how far apart the match is for whichever sport you're betting on.  "But I guess, now that I've learned it, I still won't apply it on my bets"  Cheesy  I guess you're immune to legitimate gambling strategies?


Betting on favorites early and underdogs later in the week is a common rule of thumb in sports betting, but it's not a guaranteed strategy. Success often comes from a mix of stats, research, and staying flexible with changing team dynamics. Rather than sticking strictly to rules, it's good to be open-minded and adapt your approach based on what's happening. Finding your own groove through a bit of experimentation is part of the fun and challenge in sports betting.

Of course not, but certainly a decent common "rule of thumb" that could be useful.


It doesn't really matter the strategy you are using, everyday isn't a win day and they means that even with the best strategy you are not guaranteed of winning yet until you have won your game and it's been paid out they you can be sure for certain that your strategy worked and is a sure and good one.

Betting on the underdogs latter in the week usually comes with bigger odds meanwhile that of the bigger team reduces as the scheduled day new so if you want to take advantage of the odd then you are advised to make your stake over the week and then not waiting to the day scheduled for the game as by the they will definitely be slight change in the odds which are definitely dynamic. It's always good to explore odds before the scheduled day for the game if you want you possible win to be bigger.

This is honestly a pretty silly thing to say.  Yes, it does matter. Any edge you can gain can be extremely helpful.  Of course it doesn't guarantee a win, that's not the point.
785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you actually think a Bitcoin ETF will be accepted this month? on: January 07, 2024, 08:53:25 PM
I saw just yesterday that there was a new update, some sort of "hurdle" was passed where it was a big step for bitcoin and all of the companies looking to bring a bitcoin ETF to the market.  Do I think it will pass this month? Perhaps. Perhaps not.  That said, it's coming, and I can almost guarantee that.  Blackrock, Vanguard etc all wanting to join in on this ..those companies quite literally run the planet.  They eventually get what they want.  

are you talking about the filings by applicants of 8A registering their securities
and then the exchanges acknowledgements of 8A via 19b-4
those are the main last filings for exchanges acknowledging listings on their exchanges of securities. however some applicants still need to disclose some details to SEC like their fee's and basket amounts and shares per basket stuff which they have until the 8th jan to file

Sounds like you're way more versed about all of this than I am.  I just read an article on one of my bitcoin apps that discussed (and I believe I read this either yesterday or the day before) that a hurdle had been crossed for either or or more of these companies filing which of course brings us one step closer to actually getting them to market.   Thanks for providing all the details.
786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mental rehabilitation clinic. on: January 07, 2024, 08:50:07 PM
Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

You really don't need to imagine this because there are legitimately rehabilitation clinics that treat specifically people whom struggle with gambling addiction.  I have absolutely no idea on how to go about helping them, what sort of questions to ask or how to approach any of that, but again thankfully there are already places like this that exist so thankfully they are there for those whom truly need it.
787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 07, 2024, 08:42:27 PM
Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

This is true, being hooked on gambling even if not totally addicted to it can also affect relationship.  Some of the instances are:

Neglecting the needs of the family, like attention and finance since the person is too busy with his gambling activities, he is not able to do his responsibility as a member of the family.  Worst if the person is the sole earner of the family, and due to being hooked to gambling, the money he give to his family is less and is not sufficient for the family needs that can be resulted to debt and unpaid debt.

I mean I suppose this could be true for any sort of topic.  You're drug habit effects your relatives or whatever else could be said.  I think for the most part no matter how much gambling ruins your life, that as long as it does not effect other peoples lives, than so be it.  I wouldn't not gamble simply because of fear of doing this is I guess what I'm trying to say.

But sadly you cannot ruin your life without affecting the one who cares for us unless you are living alone and no families and friends at all which is somehow an impossible situation..



I certainly understand this and at some point it's one of those things that if its not directly hurting someone, besides their feelings and how they feel about their family member doing what they are, I mean that sucks but it is what it is.

It's not like say suicide by a mother or father whos still got young kids that needs and depends on them to grow and mature in to a decent person.  However if they commit suicide once they are of adult age, then it's one of those things that effects them but, it was their choice and what they felt they needed to dos so...I dunno, it's a hard topic to discuss in some areas.
788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: January 07, 2024, 08:37:33 PM
@Everyone ---Boys and gals... are any of you interested in doing a playoffs fantasy league?  It's of course nothing complex and time consuming and what, not like regular fantasy football is.  It's not as fun of course, but it does help provide a little fun/actions for the playoffs. I've played it maybe twice and always found it kind of fun.  We could do something simple like a $5-10 buy in or something.  What do you all think?  (as I type this I'm struggling to find one, but I will).

@nutildah. The Texans did not only show their astutefulness when they picked CJ Stroud during the draft as their replacement for Massage Watson. They also sold Watson for one of the highest trade deals in the history of the NFL. The Texans also did this when Watson was suspended and it appears they knew that he would not be the same player after suspension hehehehe. The Cleveland Browns were scammed.

Man the Texas are primed for some goodness for years to come.  Just that Stroud /Collins/Dell trio is going to shoot them in to contention for some time to come.
789  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Titan Mint Coins- Serious Issue- Titan Mint Bitcoin Coins ***NEW UPDATES*** on: January 07, 2024, 08:21:38 PM
Perhaps a subforum can be created about scams. This shit taints the whole community now as is... A festering pile of €_%@

Greets Tank

That's really saying something isn't it, that things have gotten this bad that there's even a question of something like this being needed.  Unfortunately it's very important for the community as a whole to see all of this right where they see everything else physical bitcoin/crypto related.  Sad, it really is.  

Todamont, you have absolutely ruined this important thread by making yourself the focal point.

imo this entire issue is because you cannot live with your own decision not to take Tim's btc when offered.



I tried supporting Todamont in the beginning, I even reach out to him after he had been dormant for a couple years to let him know what was going on with all of this.  His constant derailments have clogged the ever living hell out of this thread, a thread which as you pointed out, one that is very important.  

Tod- I know you and Mopar have your issues.  I can promise you as someone who works very hard to try and expose scams/alert others etc..someone who's spent an insane amount of time doing this.. Mopar is not a part of the Ttitan mess in any way shape or form.  I speak for everyone on this when I say please air any further grievances via DM.  Not only does it overshadow important facts and updates, it puts more work on the mods like Hilarious and Cyrus who've got enough of their plates as is.  I hope you can see where I'm coming from with this.
790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you actually think a Bitcoin ETF will be accepted this month? on: January 06, 2024, 08:19:07 PM
I saw just yesterday that there was a new update, some sort of "hurdle" was passed where it was a big step for bitcoin and all of the companies looking to bring a bitcoin ETF to the market.  Do I think it will pass this month? Perhaps. Perhaps not.  That said, it's coming, and I can almost guarantee that.  Blackrock, Vanguard etc all wanting to join in on this ..those companies quite literally run the planet.  They eventually get what they want. 

791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Manipulation / ETF's on: January 06, 2024, 08:14:18 PM
I would say this is really no different than many other areas of the financial world that are overseen by the SEC.  As a licensed FA who's under SEC "rule", so to speak ( or more so FINRA rule), I have seen the SEC allow ALL SORTS of shit that's not remotely legitimate.  Take a look at how "dark pools" operate.  Or take a look at "bonus annuities".  There some real shady shady stuff going on that the SEC truly doesn't give a fck about.

 That said sure, I'm not sure it will manipulate bitcoin like ETFs do to many stocks.  Think about say a healthcare ETF (I like VHT quite a bit).  There's some dog performers in that fund that are artificially being propped up like no other because of the fact that so much money gets pumped in to it, mainly for the other stocks inside of it that are attractive.  At least bitcoin is just bitcoin and it's not pumping up itself in the way that money to an ETF with many assets inside can/does.
792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 06, 2024, 08:09:39 PM
I mean I suppose this could be true for any sort of topic.  You're drug habit effects your relatives or whatever else could be said.  I think for the most part no matter how much gambling ruins your life, that as long as it does not effect other peoples lives, than so be it.  I wouldn't not gamble simply because of fear of doing this is I guess what I'm trying to say.
793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Alter Ego In Gambling on: January 06, 2024, 08:07:37 PM
Haha you know what there's actually some legitimacy to this here.  If you look at this post at face value you might be tempted to think this sounds silly or whatever, but the truth is an "alter-ego" could legitimately make you a better gambler.  Now I'm sure we could argue when and where it could be useful, but for me it's when I play poker..or more specifically Texas Hold'em.  I am normally a pretty goofy person who like to have fun, make jokes etc.  When I play poker I get very serious, making as few facial expressions as possible, not holding much dialog etc.  This helps me to be able to keep an even keel and not show my opponents any sort of tell.  I love getting in this "mode" during poker play.
794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: January 06, 2024, 08:03:24 PM
Saw this video on YouTube of The Rock and his team discussing with ESPN their creation of the UFL which .. “The United Football League, a powerful combination of the XFL and USFL, will provide passionate sports fans with an entertaining, innovative and action-packed season” - ESPN chairman Jimmy Pitaro

@Huerisitc I figured you’d especially appreciate this. I’m actually looking forward to this league and going to give it a legitimate try.

https://youtu.be/YuQf34I3RnU?si=Xk_JnOOHwTAU871F

Did the rock shrink or is that chick huge? Cheesy

You were 100% against it last year, so what made you change your mind?

I was concerned Fox would try to push the XFL out so I guess this is a decent outcome although I would rather have seen them stay independent.

Funny now that they made it the corporate interests have decided to join them (I'm impressed they were able to read the writing on the wall this quickly) and probably try to wrest control from the inside.

I hope the XFL read that contract they signed because saying you have 50 percent means nothing unless your only in it for the money.

It's the same thing the futures markets do to control securities.

So basically it boils down to fox bought 50% of the xfl for IIRC $150million (what they spent to make and play a season of the usfl).

I'd say they got quite a deal.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to look into it but I wonder how this is going to effect how players from this league and colleges go into the draft if at all.

Specifically I'm wondering if they wrote into the rules that players are screwed like the college kids with capped rookie contracts when getting picked up for the nfl?




Lol man, you know that use to be his xgf ? (I know right).  I wasn't necessarily dead set against any of these other leagues. I've had good buddies play in a few of them and have certainly supported the idea, I've just found them difficult to watch as some of them are just so watered down and stray too far from the game of regular football.  I do love the idea of just 1 of these leagues existing as there's simply not enough talent for a multitude of league to be going on at one time.  If there's only just one, there's going to be some exciting players who end up getting a shot at the NFL, as well as some x-NFL'rs who will finish out their careers in a league like this and that I find fun/cool.

Wow the amount of backups playing this week has to be a record!



Yupp and this is why we cut out the last week of the season ( of course as we all know).  Still looking forward to tomorrows final Sunday of sitting on the couch so long all day watching my favorite thing that I end up farting a hole in to the sofa cushion.  
795  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Cold Kuntz!! on: January 05, 2024, 06:20:24 AM
IMHO it should be up to the donator to decide if they want to take funds back or not, it’s been too long and it even feels a big negligent to even put it to a vote, but I assume that would be better than voting on anything else. My 2.
796  Economy / Collectibles / Bitcoin Penny Company Issues- Undelivered work/Money owed/Lack of updates on: January 05, 2024, 02:01:30 AM
It really pains me to have to write this one.  I felt (as others) that it has become time to share issues people/customers are having with Bitcoin Penny https://bitcoinpenny.com/ .  

There are a multitude of people whom are waiting on both refunds from cancelled orders as well as pre-sale orders that were placed quite some time ago.  I also know of one prominent forum member who's owed 1 BTC from BPenny/Chris as well and has for some time.  

ToTheMoonSands has had a multitude of issues in regards to BPenny and receiving funds back as part of a PayPal buyer protection/failed to deliver case, where PayPal has tried a multitude of times to recover funds for TotheMooonSands.  Seller (Chris/BPenny)both  didn't have available funds in the account as well as apparently proactively blocked payment twice from being paid out when PayPal ruled in his favor for the open case.

As of 11/25/23, I am owed a refund of $2610.00 from The Bitcoin Penny Company. Refund via PayPal failed/was cancelled. Please follow more information here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456990.msg63217329#msg63217329

Bitcoin Penny has somewhat addressed these issues, but it seems he no longer is, as well as there just being so many different issues with Bitcoin Penny now that I felt it important that people are aware of this, especially for new buyers as his sales are clearly still live.  Plus a thread will be easy to find by a google search for non-forum members who may also be dealing with these same issues.  Also, there's several threads going around about this topic, so it is of course better to comb it down to just one.

Threads where this has been discussed :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461962.20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461962.20

I encourage anyone effected by this situation to share any info you can. I will continue to update this as well with more precise information about individual cases.

797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bet on favorites early in the week & underdogs late in the week strategy... on: January 04, 2024, 11:04:51 PM
I guess I should note that this more so refers directly to NFL and College football (🏈). They get a week between each game so typically from what I have seen, this is often how spreads adjust over the week between games, but I’m not sure how often it holds true.

Keep in mind this isn’t as much of a thing for sports and teams that play every couple days or so.
798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Bet on favorites early in the week & underdogs late in the week strategy... on: January 04, 2024, 09:29:08 PM
I am by no means a professional gambler, and therefore I've certainly got plenty to learn (one of the reasons I like being active in this part of the forum).  I was recently listening to a gambling talk radio podcast and they were saying one basic rule of thumb to live by when sports betting is to bet favorites in the early part of the week and under-dogs in the later part of the week as the spread tends to favor this strategy.  

So I'm just curious if the sports betters in here take this "rule of thumb" strategy seriously and tend to follow it.  Or if there's any experience that says this may not be all that great of a strategy.  Thoughts?
799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: January 04, 2024, 09:26:46 PM
Saw this video on YouTube of The Rock and his team discussing with ESPN their creation of the UFL which .. “The United Football League, a powerful combination of the XFL and USFL, will provide passionate sports fans with an entertaining, innovative and action-packed season” - ESPN chairman Jimmy Pitaro

@Huerisitc I figured you’d especially appreciate this. I’m actually looking forward to this league and going to give it a legitimate try.

https://youtu.be/YuQf34I3RnU?si=Xk_JnOOHwTAU871F
800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 04, 2024, 09:20:03 PM
I don't know what I was thinking putting money down on my Chicago Bulls last night.  They were being given a decently 'healthy" +8.5 points, but not having Zach Lavine back yet as well as Nikola Vucevic was a bit of a stretch to think they could come close to beating the Knicks.  They have played quite well all thing considered (not have Lavine for a month or so), so there's some solid progress but my Bulls are coming out of their losing ways for whats seemingly years to come.
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