Mental rehabilitation clinic.

[Julien_Olynpic]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

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[Oshosondy]

What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?

I am not a doctor and I do not know how gambling addicts are treated. Even if I know some, I can not be better like those that are specialized in the area.

Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

You will let him know how foolish he is. But not telling him he is foolish and not telling him what can make him angry. You can all see what gambling does to addicts. I will try to use that to convince him with true life stories of some addicts.

[bitbollo]

I believe that these arguments and ways to communicate should be discussed by a professional in this sector.
Personally I have no idea if some topics could istigate more or have a detrimental effect on a gambler.

In any case, what I've seen have right for an approach with a gambler is:
make people reflect on the real statistics/probability of events.
ask an inveterate bettor to list his income and expenses and from there understand if this activity is worth it

[TimeTeller]

I believe that these arguments and ways to communicate should be discussed by a professional in this sector.
Personally I have no idea if some topics could istigate more or have a detrimental effect on a gambler.

In any case, what I've seen have right for an approach with a gambler is:
make people reflect on the real statistics/probability of events.
ask an inveterate bettor to list his income and expenses and from there understand if this activity is worth it

This decision unfortunately is on the gambler himself. If he is determined to change, he can change for himself.
But of course, as much as possible he needs support from his immediate family as much as possible.
As he can easily divert himself to the old gambling life, he always need assistance from somebody close to him.
Also, he needs to find a motivation on why he can keep such lifestyle for long-term goal in life.

[mindrust]

I would just show him that it is impossible to win against the casinos in the long run. I would explain him the house edge, the odds and the math behind it. Casinos give themselves this mathematical advantage over the player and that's how they make money and that's also how the players lose money. I would give him examples too. I would even code him a basic dice game, give him some virtual money (which has no real value), and ask him to beat this game. Sooner or later he will always run out of balance and hopefully he will understand why he can't win. I mean he can win if he plays LESS and quits right away but since we are talking about gambling addicts here, they are not able to play "less". (or quit)

Anybody who understands math and how casinos work can see why he/she can't win in the long run.

[the rise]

I'm sure it exists, it's just that there is nothing famous about that clinic. or let's just say that the majority of workers there are psychiatrists. I think the alternative to gambling addiction is to go to a psychiatrist. Addicts usually always have psychological disorders, they have to fix it to truly become a good person again and recover their normal thinking. At least you can consult there until you are truly cured of addiction. This addiction can only be corrected through psychological treatment or there is no medical drug that can treat it.

[odunybiz]

I believe that these arguments and ways to communicate should be discussed by a professional in this sector.
Personally I have no idea if some topics could istigate more or have a detrimental effect on a gambler.

In any case, what I've seen have right for an approach with a gambler is:
make people reflect on the real statistics/probability of events.
ask an inveterate bettor to list his income and expenses and from there understand if this activity is worth it

This decision unfortunately is on the gambler himself. If he is determined to change, he can change for himself.
But of course, as much as possible he needs support from his immediate family as much as possible.
As he can easily divert himself to the old gambling life, he always need assistance from somebody close to him.

It's not easy to quit gambling as an addict. Is just like quitting smoking as a smoker. That is why is better not to become a gambling addict. Quitting gambling as an addict needs an extra job and strong determination by anyone involved.

[Apocollapse]

Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.

Just let him to gamble everything he have, when he already lost everything, it's high likely he will realized how stupid he's and want to completely stop gambling. There's no way to convince or discuss about him to stop gamble because you said he will counter all of your arguments, so he try to make you to never win.

That's similar to prove transwomen if them was a male, you will never ever to win against them.

[piebeyb]

It's difficult to be an expert and rehabilitation doctor for people who are addicted to gambling because I'm not an expert either so I can't give them my opinion and arguments about the dangers of gambling addiction, even though they can reply with arguments that they will win one day, maybe I will say that it is better to gamble with a healthy mindset, for example, that is, gambling is enough just to have fun and make gambling as entertainment.

Gambling is not a place to make money so use the right mindset when gambling, play within reasonable limits and under good control, without good control it will not be good in the end which can make a gambler become addicted to gambling, I will definitely remind anyone who is a gambler that the dealer will always win whenever we try to fight him.  

[Accardo]

Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.

Just let him to gamble everything he have, when he already lost everything, it's high likely he will realized how stupid he's and want to completely stop gambling. There's no way to convince or discuss about him to stop gamble because you said he will counter all of your arguments, so he try to make you to never win.

That's similar to prove transwomen if them was a male, you will never ever to win against them.

They should be an interpersonal relationship between both the addict and the therapist. If such relationship is not established, they won't be any change in the addicts plan of stopping gambling. And for a gambler to visit the clinic he has already concluded within himself to change his bad habit. So, treating him won't be that difficult. Provided that the doctor isn't ushering advice to him, that's where the argument begin to erupt. It's more of a discussion section. Where the both people will begin to like each others presence. Then whatever the therapist says would register in the addict's brain. Then he'll go home to think about it. We all know that our friends have impact in us, they can influence us, that's how therapy works. They tend to create a friendship with the addict and prove to him they're not in his life to tell him gambling is wrong or right. The aim is opening up to him that he could actually gamble at a lesser rate each day without having any trouble, thereby saving himself some funds.

[Lorence.xD]

I believe that these arguments and ways to communicate should be discussed by a professional in this sector.
Personally I have no idea if some topics could istigate more or have a detrimental effect on a gambler.

In any case, what I've seen have right for an approach with a gambler is:
make people reflect on the real statistics/probability of events.
ask an inveterate bettor to list his income and expenses and from there understand if this activity is worth it

This decision unfortunately is on the gambler himself. If he is determined to change, he can change for himself.

Some gamblers addicts are not aware and don't know how to start changing themselves cause it might be easy to say "Just stop gambling" For them there would always be an urge to gamble despite having already a conflict with their financial status as well as their mental and emotional health. For sure there's a procedure on how they handle people with addictions, once they are guided the decision is still up to them after the rehabilitation. Some after the rehabilitation would eventually come back to a gambling habit so taking a medication they would just consider it as a waste of money as well as their time. That is why some would take years before realizing and spending a lot of time in rehabilitation centers that gambling doesn't do any good for them.

[bitvalak]

I'm not sure people want to come to a clinic just to treat their gambling addiction. If gambling is one of the things that makes him happy, then he will do it continuously. Until the point where he runs out of money to play, he will stop.
I have quite a lot of friends who used to like gambling and could be said to be addicts. Now the majority of them have also stopped themselves because the main reason is that they have run out of money to play. But when they get a salary from their work, it will be used to gamble again until it runs out & stops.

[Crypt0Gore]

Is this really necessary  

You can't save a soul that don't want to be saved.

Many gamblers are not successful in gambling and they know how to just give up or lower their gambling section and focus on something else, those who gets too attached are not thinking at all, they only believe in gambling like its a calling from God.

You are already lost if you believe that gambling is the way, you have condemned your will to take control and your will to resist, I believe that creator knew that some human are weak minded, that's why you can never see the holy books supporting gambling.

There is no need for any rehabilitation for people who are addicted to gambling, time will be their teacher, if they are lucky, they will open the eye that was closed for a long time very quickly, I know old men who regret wasting their lives away in gambling, thinking it's the way out of poverty.

It's a matter of unrealistic and realistic, if something is too good to be true, just accept that it's not safe. Be a realistic.

[angrybirdy]

I believe that these arguments and ways to communicate should be discussed by a professional in this sector.
Personally I have no idea if some topics could istigate more or have a detrimental effect on a gambler.

In any case, what I've seen have right for an approach with a gambler is:
make people reflect on the real statistics/probability of events.
ask an inveterate bettor to list his income and expenses and from there understand if this activity is worth it

This decision unfortunately is on the gambler himself. If he is determined to change, he can change for himself.
But of course, as much as possible he needs support from his immediate family as much as possible.
As he can easily divert himself to the old gambling life, he always need assistance from somebody close to him.

It's not easy to quit gambling as an addict. Is just like quitting smoking as a smoker. That is why is better not to become a gambling addict. Quitting gambling as an addict needs an extra job and strong determination by anyone involved.

You're right, That's why there's a lot of clinics and professional that offers professional medical assistance because this kind of habit is most likely difficult to quit and it requires a lot of time, patience and perseverance. It allows both patient and doctors a strong determination in order to finally cure patient's addiction. Proven and tested that mental rehabilitation clinic is very helpful as long as the patient cooperates on the things that they need to do.

[AbuBhakar]

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I think what you are referring here is hypnosis and hypnotherapy as way to rehabilitate those who have gambling addiction problem. This is not knew and this kind of treatment is popular too on some country since gambling addiction is just a mental problem like substance addiction. This kind of solution is the best to mind condition the gambling addict mind.

There’s a lot of this(https://www.cityhypnosis.com/hypnosis-for-gambling-problems/) service available online.

[Wexnident]

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Is nothing groundbreaking here? I reckon this is how most people or professionals go about treating people with addiction in general. Except for the medicine part, now that I'm not exactly sure of. And as for asking answers to dumb questions by addicts, I don't think your average internet dude should be the guy you're asking from. And in the first place, a dude wanting to go into rehab would certainly not argue that he still wants to gamble more and instead would strive to change, and that mindset is usually more than enough with some added support from other people. And as for "forcing" people to go into rehab, I don't think gambling addiction is that far into the level of severity? Unlike drugs or something similar afaik.

[naira]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

Here's what I would do, think of this as a simulation that you should be able to imagine:

First, I will choose one of them with the criteria of an acute out-of-control gambling addict (A). Second, I have a representative of someone who is a controlled gambler, has a level of risk management, is professional and even has a strategy in determining betting probabilities (B).

These two people will be used as experimental examples by being given their own gambling games, the same capital and the same time to gamble in front of many people who are undergoing rehabilitation. With the scheme that I have prepared from the start, gambler (A) ultimately fails miserably while gambler (B) ultimately emerges as the winner.

That way, it will be easy for me to take the lead whenever they argue through stimulation. And that will be capital to be able to filter and ultimately give them the freedom to choose which gambling they will choose. Become an aggressive gambler who has lost everything or wants to change his gambling patterns like gambler (B) with strategy, self-control and risk management.

Ok, I think their arguments wouldn't be able to spread if we had techniques for delivering presentations.

You know that in an experimental method there is something called a pretest and posttest. If there are 1 or 2 people who choose to follow in the gambler's footsteps (B), it means that our technique can be said to be successful.

[Die_empty]

    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

Some might bring up the fact that gambling is the only means they can come out of depression. They will claim that due to boredom and other problems they need gambling to be entertained and have fun. My response will be that gambling might not be able to cure depression. Depression can be handled by dealing with the root cause and not focusing on ways to reduce the effect.

Some will also argue that their gambling habits are hereditary, so it will be difficult for them to control. They will tell you that their father and even close relatives like uncles are gamblers. My argument might be that the belief that gambling addiction can be transferred through genes has not been scientifically proven. I know there have been such studies on this argument, but there has been a general conclusion that it is true.      

[Yogee]

Can you even call that a mental rehab with that kind of methodology? It sounds more like a gambling masterclass. I bet the "patient" would not even make an argument against not having a gaming system. He'll go back to the drawing board and figure out a better strategy after all those "rehab sessions" then continue to gamble.

[Hirose UK]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.

The first thing I will say is that the idea of mental rehabilitation clinic for gambling addiction is something that is very useful and of course this is service that can help anyone who wants to recover from gambling addiction.
But the question is whether the government will provide it because this will be much more difficult to cure, unlike other addictions such as drug addiction, where obviously there are various therapies and also medication to stop it.
Overall gambling addiction will be related to person mentality and thoughts, it may be cured but it does not guarantee that it will not return, on average gambling addicts cannot really stop and all they can do is reduce.

What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I don't know what will be given to addicts to be able to heal their mentality so that they can be free from expectations of gambling, and of course their mindset cannot be predicted unless they themselves begin to have the awareness that the gambling they do must really be reduced significantly.
Seeing how gambling addicts have their mindset and psychology will of course make even doctors or experts experience various difficulties in changing the gambling addict mindset and provide suggestions that gambling is not always good to do excessively.