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7841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: December 10, 2016, 05:43:31 AM
I think gambling requires a lot of analysis is a sport. if someone does not want to lose bitcoin brand vain. he will be to a very detailed analysis of the team. besides sport I think it is not a site that analyzes for all was a fluke

yes i am agree with you, in sports betting which is a part of gambling games, we need to use analysis to win the games but as i only often to playing gambling in dice, slot, so i don't need to make or using any analysis because its easy for me to playing that games.
It's so exciting if we are doing that, we analyze games base on what is written in the statistics and although it does not guarantee us a win but the fact that it can give us somehow a little bit of relief and a little bit proud that with our effort we won the game.

Sports betting is gambling and games can be manipulated so analyzing the game should not only be base on the stats but other necessary factors as well.
7842  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: December 10, 2016, 05:29:37 AM

well you can do both saving and investing with bitcoin you just need to convert your money into bitcoin and just hold . because bitcoin itself is also  investment nowadays where you can save you money while getting profit because of the mostly price increase .
That's right, the price of bitcoin at this moment is already high. I don't need to invest my coins in other websites because holding it is already investing for me. Whenever I need money, I just convert it to my fiat and request a cash-out.

however you can also grow your bitcoin by doing alt coin trading so you can make more bitcoin and more profit from bitcoin while the price increase is approaching and after you have successfully made a profit from alt coin trading your money will be possibly grown or maybe it will be doubled . by the way we have the same situation I am also doing the same thing you do whenever I need money .
Altcoin trading or whatever you call it is still trading and in trading it's a gamble since there's no guarantee that can grow your money. Taking the risk is the thing there, if you are a risk taker then trading is good for you, actually it's good to learn how to trade because the success rate is very enticing especially when you are focus with the asset/s you are trading.
7843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: December 09, 2016, 07:30:55 AM
A lot of people here gamble to become rich, but some do it for fun.

The question is, if you wake up tomorrow with 50 million dollars, would you still gamble for fun, or would you forget about gambling and do other stuff? Personally I think I would still gamble. I do it now, and I know I realistically will never get rich off gambling, because I barely do it and I don't risk much money, just for fun sometimes, to test my luck.
So if I had a lot of money, I would do bigger gambles, but they would still enter in the "for fun" amount (for the new 50 million standard). For example, gambling 1K a month would be irrelevant, and winning with a 1K bet can give you big rewards if you are lucky. It would still be fun, in fact more fun, and it would be as non risky as it is now, in terms of going financially bankrupt.
If I woke up tomorrow with the money of 50 million usd because I was not too addicted to gambling maybe I'll gamble just a little bit of presentation 50 million usd. because the money will I use for things more important pentinga others who do not have such a high risk of betting or investing
The best idea would be to have your own gambling site, with that big amount of money that already a good bankroll for a gambling site and you can entice more gamblers to play your site because your site is very liquid. People do really wish to be rich but it does not happen easy, unless you win the jackpot in gambling, you get it from gambling and if you are not careful you will also return it in gambling.
7844  Economy / Services / Re: Komodo Signature and Avatar Campaign | Campaign has ended on: December 09, 2016, 07:01:34 AM
Received payment, thank you KOMODO.
7845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: December 09, 2016, 06:54:45 AM
honestly there's a lot of ways to stay away from being seduced by gambling . first start from decreasing your daily bet when you're playing gambling. ive been addicted also on gambling now im trying to stay away from it as soon as possible because its wasting my bitcoin i dont know whats on gambling but when im playing it ilike to win a bigger prize pool thats why im betting with a huge amount. and playing in a long run always led me on losing.
That's because we cannot abruptly quit in gambling, we have to do it slowly but consistently. Reducing your bets is like reducing your crave in gambling and you hope that time will come you will definitely lose interest, you need guidance on that and by doing that it's better if you have someone that inspires you like your family in particular.
7846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 09, 2016, 02:45:07 AM
People who usually gamble alot don't know what they are doing and are out of control.
At this point they should seek medical counselling  because they obviously have a mental condition if they can not stop gambling and are definitely addicted to it.
I agree with you . when the gambler just think to always win, they were wrong. because it is the beginning of their addiction. it should be removed and they are exposed to a little bit of pressure mentally strong.

I dont think that gambler dont just think of win to be addicted. A lot of people addicted is because they like to gamble. They already knew that they are not going to win but they still pour more and more money in is due to the fact that they like to involve in gambling.
I think that as losses start climbing and they begin to realize the amount of money they have lost the addicted see no way out but to keep gambling because they have lost so much money that the only way they see they could get that money back is through gambling.

I do agree that most of the gamblers will think in this way where they lost money, want to get back from there only. But that is the worst thing to do in gambling because no way one can recover their lost money from gambling. Those people should stop gambling immediately so that they can save at least rest of the money they got.
Not a good idea to fall for our emotion in gambling, being smart is necessary to avoid loses since the advantage is not on us. Reacting that kind in a situation only proves our immaturity in gambling and we will not succeed until we learn to control ourselves and accept defeat. Don't be so stupid to chase like there's no tomorrow as bitcoin online gambling operates 24 hours and 7 days, so there's a lot of time to gamble again.
7847  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BITSANE.COM Cryptocurrency Exchange Platform Is Now Live on: December 09, 2016, 02:32:54 AM
Some people here are gave good idea for bitsane, I think I have a good idea too. I really wish that exchange site give me a notification in real time when my transaction is done, I mean if I make an order to sell my bitcoin in certain price, I will get a notification in my phone when the transaction done.

Sucess for bitsane.
They will certainly consider good suggestions that will make their site more popular due to lot of good features, this is a business and they need to compete with the reputable exchange sites that are popular now. It's really simple to compete, just follow their strength and improve their weaknesses.

With that, you can attract more clients and stay trustworthy as it's the most important thing to maintain.
7848  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: December 09, 2016, 02:27:54 AM
With the trend of the price of the bitcoin always up, never in a hurry to sell bitcoin. a simple example is the year 2016, after halving day price bitcoin dropped, but now it has gone up again.
The price is very consistent when it started to increase the previous month, I really feel we will be closing this year with a nice price for the long term investors. Panic selling will not happen at least with the present market movement, there's more room to grow for success so instead of thinking to sell just control your emotion and be discipline to wait for a greater price.
7849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: December 08, 2016, 05:34:09 AM
This is why bloody children shouldn't be here to begin with. Never mind gambling holy crap ! Where are their parents and what are they doing ? Besides not bringing up your kids that is bad parenting and will probably result in crappy kids becoming crappy adults. Besides kids have nothing to add or give. They have no money and nothing to add to anything.

You can't stop someone from doing something, especially with the freedom we've got on the Internet these days. Kids are always curious, and the only thing you can do is to tell them how bad gambling can turn. If you block his computer or so, it'll turn out bad for YOU instead.

yes its true and if we block his computer then i bet that he can find another way to playing gambling and this will continue without you know. so better we approaching them without having angry and explain to them the disadvantages of playing gambling at their ages and if they still want to playing gambling, they can loss everything they have.
You need to show them that what they are doing is not good, and explain to them that not all we want in this world is good for us because there's due time for everything and gambling is only created for matured people, under 18 years is not matured enough and there's a lot of things you need to do to live a healthy life that focus in gambling which might only destroy your life due to lack of understanding.
7850  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: December 08, 2016, 05:05:16 AM
Yes i am addicted to gambling because almost everyday i played dice game in bitsler. 12 hours aday that is why am decide to stop it but its so hard to stop. So i thankful that i learn here in bitcointalk this is now my new hobby.
Good for you that you could able to stop gambling but i assume you still play bitsler up to now but not already for longer hours. Gambling addiction is really hard to stop since emotion and aims will surely urge you to play even more because you are already hooked into it and also seeking for profits is also a motivation for most gambling addicts. Its very rare for people to stop completely.
Games that can make us addicted are games that we love to play, sometime in the past I play dice and for awhile I was addicted and was able to experiment a method to win, I tried different method especially martingale which I have been using for a long time but never use bot when betting. Sometimes I win, but realize in the long run that it does not give me good results so now I just play in sports occasionally and spend a little time of a day to do it.
7851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 08, 2016, 04:54:23 AM
Golden State Warriors @ LA Clippers i guess for this time GSW will not easy to win against LA clippers like before they can do due i has seen in this season la clippers has playing very awesome. Clippers +5 point
Glad to see someone fade the favorites, I hope they'll fight and make up a good game after a lose from the Pacers. This will be a close game, hopefully and clippers will cover. Putting a little amount of money for clippers ML here and at the same time, I love the under of this game.

Last game in the row, let's roll and see a good game.
For me moneyline for gsw can be possible it can be a close fight because both team really playing great and they keep surprising the fans so better to be with favor team but i think just for a small stake since clippers can ruin my pick.
Put quite a bit on Golden State to win it (about 20mbtc so when they win I will have won roughly 10mbtc).
I am sure about this one so I put a bit more than I usually do because I don't see this one as too much of a risk to take on.
Good bet, halftime update is (48-62 ) road team is leading the game, if the clippers want to win this game they should have a great 3rd quarter to stay in the game, having said that, I'm taking the clippers live with 1.58 odds to win 3 quarter and over 56.50 for a good value of 2.10.

What do think? We are gonna hit this one?
7852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting porn sites to accept bitcoin on: December 06, 2016, 05:30:27 AM
Major websites of this industry i.e the biggest one being Brazzers has already started accepting bitcoin since early 2014 in a few of their websites. Another big one is porn.com which is accepting bitcoin. The main reason for people who use bitcoin to watch premium porn is they don't want their wives to find out in their credit card statement the name of the website. It can be the other way around though. It may be that the wives don't want their husbands to find out. That's the beauty of bitcoin, endless opportunities.

Privacy aspect is definitely a big plus when it comes to paying with Bitcoin at porn sites. But another major aspect as to why Bitcoin is perfectly suitable for being used in this case, is that you can avoid being sucked into recurring monthly bills with credit card and other payment methods. Bitcoin allows you to pay for one month or another term, without the possibility of the site in question charging you automatically for another period.
That's the point there, this kind of activities are shady in my eyes so it's better not to involve your personal information just to access the services. I am sure you do not want to compromise yourself in the future for possible identity thief or your credit card will be implicated in illegal activities.

Bitcoin is always a wiser way to avail this kind of services.
7853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: December 06, 2016, 05:23:10 AM
Please post here to cry about your gambling losses. No bragging about winnings or tips please, this is only for pure crying, whining, complaining, and venting your frustrations.

This thread had to be made because there are too many crying threads, this should help save forum space.

I believe this thread should be stickied as well.

What a very great topic this makes me feel at home Cry i want to cry for losing so much in gambling games i really hate gambling games because sometimes they are a scam to players they don't easily let us win but they take and take money from us it really is a pain in the heart that you work hard to earn bitcoin and then gambling takes it all why oh why gambling is so hard i want to hack the gambling games and take them all i want to win in gambling, i don't want to lose anymore in gambling it is just one hard thing to do i really want my bitcoin back i bet and bet but nothing happened i am starting to lose hope in gambling Cry
It does not speak for your action, the fact that you are promoting a gambling site you definitely love to gamble or maybe you have been addicted that you hate losing but you want to gamble, either of the two could be true but what I can advise unto you is that learn to enjoy gambling and that can be achieve if you treat it as purely entertainment. That's the only way, believe me.
7854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: December 06, 2016, 05:08:49 AM
I don't like slot games, I think they are very repetitive and don't offer any kind of entertainment to me I prefer to play almost any other casino game like baccarat or blackjack.
Slots games are supposedly played for fun only, you can't win that games as the odds does not favor you. However, to have more fun it is advisable to try in different type of games and do not just focus your time with slots, it's hard to resist temptation as a gamble and you might be addicted hoping to bag the big reward.
7855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: December 05, 2016, 06:03:41 AM
According to me no matter which the smart way in gambling, because there will never be a special tricks in order to win. no experience at all with gambling can also win and defeat the skilled. We just hope the luck when gambling.
That's true, it doesn't depend on the experience we have in gambling because luck will do the rest especially in dice games and roulette. But there are ways we can minimize our losses and also risks, and I think that is what playing gamble smartly.

If we are talking about dice game, than definitely, dice game don't need experience, it is purely depend on luck.
And Personally, I feel many games like sports betting, even we have experience but we mustily need luck, because luck is main thing to win in gambling, Otherwise gambling don't need bad luck man.
It's true, any method we use will only work in a short time but in the long run we will be beaten by the house edge. I would not spend so much time with dice as the longer you play the more chances you lose, better beat on other games if you seek to have chance to make profit. Never do in games where there's a house edge, they are good to have fun only.
7856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: December 05, 2016, 03:13:02 AM
It can if you follow someone, i.e a tipster in this forum or outside of it. That's not all, you have to follow his bankroll instructions, his stakes (how sure he is about a bet from 1-10 is known as a stake), play only the percentage suggested by him per single bet, i.e 3% for a bet 5% for another and so on. The tipster need to have an outstanding history and be time tested.

I think this is the only possibility for someone to win in the long term. If you play yourself, you maybe good for a certain amount of time but soon after you will end up losing everything. Maybe I am wrong but I don't know any other way to be profitable in gambling in the long term and I am talking of course about sports betting here.

In dice, to win in a long term, you need to have a very huge bankroll, do the martingale strategy and multiply your bet everytime you lose, x3 and above is better. Then a single win (if your bankroll can afford the amount of those losses plus the current bet before you win) can surely give you very nice profit especially if you have a longer lossing streak.  That is the only possible strategy if you want to win in the long run.
Large bankroll won't help you to win in the long run, if you chose to use martingale strategy you'll fast. in the long run the house edge rules, it doesn't matter how much is your bankroll, you'll lose!
Any gambling method may be applicable depending on the right timing, martingale might work for others but it's not advisable as it can easily consume your bankroll when you have a cold streak. The thing is, we want to last in gambling to enjoy and hopefully to be profitable in the long run.

The best way to do it is not to be greedy using martingale method but use flat betting with a right decision making on your bets.
7857  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you Still believe in Fiat? on: December 05, 2016, 03:02:01 AM
Like it or not we have to believe,it's part of our system,government imposed to it's citizen,you cannot boycott it,because you're using it daily and it's why you exist in your country,you can only get it out of your system if you are alone in a jungle.

   Its much easier to like it when you have it. Its a privilege to spent money every day, many of us here forgot that feeling. We use fiat to buy food, drinks and other things we need, just fiat can be used for many other things also.
   With a lot of money you are out, you can buy house and you can make your own electricity, water and just with a lot of money you can be independent.

Well fiat is definitely a part of our daily payments modes and its tough for bitcoin to take away that place. The fiat will remain even if bitcoin becomes very popular. Most of the people in the world are not ready to accept bitcoin in all their payment modes and hence fiat will remain and people will believe in it.

One more point is what and all you can do with fiat currency that you cannot do in bitcoin in current situation. Still their are so many country where Bitcoin is not recognized or cannot do anything with bitcoin in real life. Like in my country still cannot do anything with bitcoin as it is not accepted anywhere in out country the only option is to convert it to fiat currency and enjoy it. So for us Bitcoin is a investment like gold and silver for future benefit
but i think now the situation is changing day by day, now you can use bitcoin in local shops in most areas, as the local shopkeepers accept bitcoin for shopping, i still in your area you have no such facilities you should use it for online shopping, on other side it is still good that you can covert your bitcoin into fiat, you can use the profit of bitcoin in form of your fiat currency.
Currently that's what is happening, we earn bitcoins and convert it in fiat. The reason is we do not have the same experience of convenience in spending our bitcoin online since we are not living in the same countries.There are countries that accept bitcoin but they are mostly the rich country. As long as we can enjoy and there's no problem with converting into fiat, this two can work and progress together.
7858  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: December 04, 2016, 01:13:21 PM
What do you guys think it would happen if all the governments in the world declared bitcoin to be illegal?
How do you think the community would react? What could be the possible solutions?
At first, there could be some panic selling, but then people would realize that would not be enough to stop people from using it. In fact, this would only promote Bitcoin, making people realize the benefits of using it, and making them realize that Bitcoin is the way. If we stop to think, Bitcoin exists to protect people from the irrationality of centralized institutions.
Well, you're right. if governments start does bring orders that, bitcoin is something illegal, then, there will be panic selling. it can make bitcoin prices down very quickly, besides, it would make very many people to lose business, and make unemployment rise again. but I really did not expect this
I disapprove these theories. If the governments banned bitcoin, there would be a big hole in the ecosystem which can not be replaced by other currencies and the governments have to accept that there will be a big crash coming. Moreover, Bitcoin forbidden laws could start revolutions all over this planet which consist of many kinds of people including hackers. Bitcoin is first used by hackers and I do not think that they will watch the governments ban Bitcoin without doing nothing
That's the possible outcome I was thinking as well, hackers will likely protest in a way which they are good. Imagine the situation, we are denied with our freedom to use bitcoin where in fact we are already comfortable using it as it benefits us. They are robbing us and they want to run the world without considering our voice to be heard.
7859  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: December 04, 2016, 12:46:30 PM

I think that investing in cryptocurrencies is considered to be a high risk investment as gold is tends to be much more stable then cryptocurrncies.
If you invest in bitcoin keep in your mind that you can lose everything in a flash light.


I guess Gold is not a safe investment in some countries.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/business/2016/nov/25/prime-minister-modis-next-surgical-strike-on-domestic-gold-holdings-1542518.html
Though it will be a good investment if you pay full taxes, it may take much more years to gain profit..
Yes indeed if we want to get a good profit when investing in gold we have to hold it for a long time, because gold is a long-term investment that should be save in the long term. Maybe I do not understand gold investments in several countries, including unsafe, but in my country is very popular gold investment and a lot of people do it. Because it will be can get great profits.

That's right, but don't forget the gold is also more stable and you are most likely to lose a lot of money or earn a lot of money if you keep gold.

Bitcoin, at the other hand, can gain you a lot of money in no time, but can also make you lose quite a lot.

Yes very true, because it is the risk of bitcoin and gold. It is very reasonable because the investment risk is quite large if it fails. Therefore the investment in gold and bitcoin need skills in view of the price so that we can minimize losses. Because according to me all investments there are risks, because every investment there must be risk.
Investment in short are taking risk to grow our money, however between bitcoin and gold it's obvious that it was known to us already that bitcoin is the riskier one as it's new in the market and is not yet recognize by the government as a property or currency but gold is very stable and with recognition by the IMF.
7860  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: December 04, 2016, 12:34:04 PM
I believe in privacy rights so I must believe in bitcoin. We need to take control of our future and the first step to doing that is by investing in bitcoin and losing our dependency for the almighty USD.
Bitcoin was proof it self being the strongest cryptocurrency,  good alternative for people who get saturated of using paper money and such as investment too like you said. Bitcoin have so many benefit so we should believe in bitcoin.
That's why we are here because we do believe that the future of bitcoin will bring us good results for our investment. In terms of investment it's good but in terms of currency my evaluation is not really good compared to fiat since it has only a limited way to use it unlike fiat that all transaction honor fiat and it is widely use by all people for their daily transaction activities.
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