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81  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Iran Changes Law to Use Bitcoin For Imports on: October 30, 2020, 03:10:15 PM
Can someone redirect to elaborative article associated with this? It would be interesting to see how exactly this import gonna work in “real time”.?

This seems to be the original source, but you'll have to translate it:

https://www.isna.ir/news/99080301359/%DB%8C%DA%A9-%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%85-%D8%AC%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%AF-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC-%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%B2-%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B2

There are Arabic characters in the link so I'm not sure if it will work for everyone properly.

Either way, from my understanding, they'll be subsidizing electricity for the miners, and how much the miners are mandated to sell depends on how much electricity they received. To put it simply, they're paying miners with electricity as part of an actual national policy.
82  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-10-26]First Mover: Bitcoin Steady Over $13K as JPMorgan Has Eureka! Moment on: October 28, 2020, 08:05:58 AM
I didn't know if we'd see JPM change their tune as long as Jamie Dimon was in charge, but it is definitely encouraging. 

Dimon already backpedaled from his Bitcoin hostility way back in 2018, so this isn't really a surprise. They've been looking into crypto for a while.
83  Economy / Economics / Re: First Bitcoin Mixer Penalized by FinCEN for Violating Anti-Money Laundering Laws on: October 24, 2020, 01:32:10 PM
Lol mixers are apparently money transmitters now:

An anonymizing services provider is a money transmitter under FinCEN regulations.  The added feature of concealing the source of the transaction does not change that person’s status under the BSA.  

Either way, the money laundering charge was probably because of the fact that they advertised the service to avoid law enforcement. It was the same case with BestMixer from last year:

Mixing Bitcoins that are obtained legally is not a crime but, other than the mathematical exercise, there no real benefit to it.

The legality changes when a mixing service advertises itself as a success method to avoid various anti-money laundering policies via anonymity. This is actively offering a money laundering service.

Mixers should probably fine for as long as they avoid that, and don't operate within the US so they don't get classified as money transmitters lol.

I was reading the article and thinking about that. Was Coin Ninja operating in the US? If I were the owner of a mixer, I would have it in a tax haven, as many crypto casinos do.

I'm not sure about Helix, but Coin Ninja definitely is:

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/coin-ninja

I'm not even sure if Coin Ninja itself is a mixer or offers mixing services; the press release only explicitly stated that Helix was.
84  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will you buy BTC from PayPal now that they are letting people do it? on: October 23, 2020, 02:10:16 AM
To see I am the only person on Bitcointalk  buying a piece via PayPal shows me that BTC adaption for the mainstream is far far far away.

I think you'd have much better results outside Bitcointalk tbh. A lot of people are hesitant to buy only because they would rather hold their own coins, something that probably isn't as prevalent for the mainstream. I would be very surprised if Paypal doesn't make bank from this. The fact that prices surged could indicate that lots of people think this is a good move.

-snip-

Basically because of the utter absurdity of its current design. Their decision to allow users to buy and sell Bitcoin and a few altcoins may be worth appreciating but other than that everything is just pure garbage. Which makes people think if there is even real Bitcoins involved.

So this is probably just the first step. I guess they're very much aware how they are now being heavily criticized by Bitcoin supporters. While the price seemed to react positively to their decision they must have heard loud and clear the legitimate negative opinions aired by members of the Bitcoin community.

I really hope so, though I remain skeptical. The community only thinks the design is absurd because we've been taught that "not your keys, not your coins", but Paypal is such a reputable brand that common folk, and maybe even some actual enthusiasts, won't mind. I absolutely agree that the design is horrible, but at the same time I could see it working especially once the fiat-settled payments are integrated. We have to keep in mind that there are a lot of people who are only invested for price movements, and I could see this being huge for them -- I mean, they'd be able to hold Bitcoin for speculation and at the same time, be able to spend on a whim where Paypal is accepted. If you don't care about holding your own coins, that's an incredibly sweet deal.
85  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will you buy BTC from PayPal now that they are letting people do it? on: October 22, 2020, 07:09:59 AM
I don't think Paypal will keep it this way for long, though.

What makes you believe so? It seems even payments will be settled in fiat:

Cryptocurrency payments on PayPal will be settled using fiat currencies, such as the U.S. dollar, meaning merchants will not receive payments in virtual coins, the company said.

If they're actually planning to go this route, there won't be any movements in the blockchain; they give you an IOU you can play with, and since it doesn't seem like they even give you a BTC address, it might be designed to stay that way. Neither you nor the merchant will ever touch any actual BTC.

I mean, I guess it's kind of smart since it appeals to people who only want to hold BTC for its price movements, letting them speculate and spend with negligible fees. If I were a casual, I would absolutely gobble this up.

I feel a bit conflicted because on one hand, it has essentially nothing to do with Bitcoin, and could even harm real adoption in the long run. On the other hand, it's huge for establishing Bitcoin as a legitimate asset class.
86  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Legal or not: Exchange of Bitcoin between a US resident and sanctioned countries on: October 20, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
I can't find any specific examples, but according to this website:

Sending money to sanctioned countries — and the potential consequences

There are ways that people have chosen to get around these economic sanctions. But we stress that doing so is illegal and exposes you to severe legal and financial penalties.

If you choose to route your money through a country that doesn’t have sanctions against your intended destination — the UK, for example — you could be charged by the US with money laundering.

P2P shouldn't be a problem, as odolvlobo shared, but it could still certainly be seen as a method of money laundering. I don't think there will be issues with small amounts, but I would still strongly discourage it unless both parties know how to cover their tracks.
87  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Kraken warns about scams using fake identities as member of their team on: October 19, 2020, 06:28:05 AM
To clarify, this specifically targets teams who create tokens and somehow scams them regarding listing their projects. Regular folk shouldn't be affected. Still though, there is a lesson to be learned from this. From Kraken's blogpost, if you didn't want to open it:

To protect yourself and your business against Punycode phishing: we recommend adding filters to check the header on inbound emails for “xn--“. Our security team advises you quarantine these messages by default, review them regularly and add exceptions for any legitimate domains you communicate with.
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase to Support Bitcoin Core Developers on: October 16, 2020, 12:47:58 PM
Quick reminder that the people who want to sponsor and be involved in Bitcoin Core development are these same people:

The behemoth cryptocurrency exchange has initiated procurement deals with a number of U.S. agencies, including the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), for a cryptocurrency investigations tool called “Coinbase Analytics,” according to publicly available documents. The Block first reported on the prospective deals Friday.

I don't think any one of us really oppose supporting development, but you'll have to remember that for-profit companies like Coinbase exist to make money -- this could very well be another means for that end. Good for them, but I don't like this.
89  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-10-08] Bitcoin Can't be Correlated to Traditional Assets on: October 14, 2020, 02:27:32 AM
@blacky90. That is his personal opinion but the data disagrees hehe. Bitcoin has followed the movements of the S&P500 for as high as 84%. I cannot find the correlation calculator, however. It was @figmentofmyass who shared it on an older thread.

If you're talking about realized correlation, the figure was probably taken from here:

https://analytics.skew.com/dashboard/macro

I can't link the chart itself directly, but it should be pretty easy to find. The one-month correlation currently stands at around ~54%.

One thing worth noting though:

One should note, though, that readings between 30% to 50% imply a relatively weak correlation between variables.

They absolutely aren't correlated fundamentally, but as more people start using them for the same things, they can easily mirror each other's price movements. It's too early to tell if they'll ever correlate consistently, but it's certainly a possibility.
90  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Balance on Exchanges Reducing on: October 13, 2020, 08:25:08 AM
It might also be due to DeFi, interestingly enough:

The latest bitcoin balance drop on exchanges started in mid-March when prices took a steep tumble to a 10-month low, according to Norwegian crypto analysis firm Arcane Research’s weekly report on Sept. 22.

Arcane Research attributed the decreased bitcoin balance on exchanges partly to the white-hot decentralized finance (DeFi) sector, where bitcoin is being tokenized on Ethereum by those lending the cryptocurrency in exchange for yields.

“In the same period [since March 15, 2020], more than 100,000 BTC have found their way into Ethereum protocols, which could explain some of the outflow,” the research team wrote.

On top of that, we're seeing institutions like Grayscale hoard Bitcoin in full swing real time. The last time Bitcoin exchanges were this low was November 2018 according to the article above, which was a bearish preiod, but all signs right now definitely point to bulls. We're currently in a very interesting period where we're seeing actual growth not based on external hype.
91  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin mined in 2010 worth $ 11M since 2010 has just moved. on: October 12, 2020, 06:56:53 AM
Why is this significant?

What, you mean you don't like watching whales do whale things? Lol.

In all seriousness though, people make stories out of these, and could potentially affect the market depending on the amounts involved. People may hold off on buying or sell early when they anticipate a large amount being dropped, for example. That's probably not as relevant these days considering how much money it takes to move the market, but that can probably be attributed to old habits dying hard.
92  Other / Off-topic / Re: [PSA]: FBI gives warning about using WIFI in Hotels on: October 09, 2020, 02:08:50 PM
Sadly, when I'm in the (various) hotel, 99% of the time, the signal was so weak, which made the cellphone practically unusable. There's no option other than using this free wifi. I did use a paid VPN as I couldn't see what other available options besides this TOR/VPN stuff. Ideas/solutions would be appreciated.

I don't think there are other options, really. Tor is ridiculously slow, and you're possibly safer using public wifi bare than using a free VPN.

Like bob123 said above though, SSL/TLS is implemented basically everywhere nowadays, so you shouldn't encounter problems even on public wifi if you're careful. I personally still always go with a VPN just for peace of mind though lol.
93  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN basher, the Liar 'John McAfee' is finally Arrested on: October 08, 2020, 11:55:30 AM
He jumped in only after the Bitcoin prices reached sky high.

I'm not sure if that's entirely accurate. I don't really remember what he was up to then, but his infamous dick-eating prediction was made around July 2017, which was pre-$5k levels. I guess you could argue that Bitcoin was already in a massive upswing then, but at that point a lot of people were just waiting for the bubble to pop, so he at least didn't ride the wave at its peak.

He also absolutely had nothing to do with the all time high, but I imagine he brought quite a few people to Bitcoin -- I mean if scam ICOs are willing to pay him ~$100k for a tweet, then he probably has some influence in that area. I don't think his heel turn turned people away from Bitcoin either, so he could very well have been a net positive in the end, which is pretty funny to think about.

None of what he is being arrested for should be actual crimes. Being able to be arrested for non-violent crimes shows the problem of the SEC as an organization.

You should probably be pointing your fingers to the laws and justice system, not an agency which is just fulfilling its mandate. Even then though, did the SEC even have anything to do with this? If he was nabbed for tax evasion (which he brags about lmao), then doesn't that fall under the IRS?
94  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin maturity ?!What do you think? on: October 07, 2020, 09:08:35 AM
Bitcoin has shown us that it is in a stable position in terms of profitability and relative stability.
Investors know that Bitcoin will hold its own in this resistance, and the $ 100 or $ 300 drop should not be a concern.

Has it really been unusually stable? A quick look at the charts shows that it's been nothing unusual; the current price is just higher than past "stability" periods. I think most reasonable people wouldn't be surprised if the prices plunged and tanked suddenly. I mean, we were also stable in ~9k (and for longer than the current period) just a little more than two months ago.

That being said, I do agree that Bitcoin has "matured" in a sense that most people don't seem to think it's a bubble waiting to pop anymore. Its reputation has definitely matured, if nothing else; it has never been in a better spot in the eyes of the public.
95  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: P2P Bitcoin Volume Hitting All-Time Highs on: October 06, 2020, 06:21:38 AM
Government's newest restrictions on crypto (maybe), better awareness on advantages of CEX, try to not submit identity documents for KYCs on DEX, just one of potential reasons.

Doesn't Paxful also require KYC though? I mean I guess you can go unverified, but you're going to be incredibly limited. They also keep your money for you, which isn't much different from centralized exchanges.

All that being said, the most likely reason people are using it is probably because they can get better rates than on centralized exchanges. P2P is better, but at the end of the day, trading on platforms like Paxful aren't truly P2P, because they act as 3rd parties.
96  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Investor losses legal battle against Bithumb for 2017 data breach incident on: September 29, 2020, 08:45:11 AM
One succeeded somehow in recovering his funds while the other two didn't - not really sure how that works.

The investor with $401k apparently wasn't able to convince the court that the hack was related to the data breach:

A High Court judge determined that the man (identified as “Mr. A” for privacy purposes) had failed to successfully prove that his data was compromised during the incident. As a result, the exchange will not be held liable for Mr. A’s lost funds.

It seems to me that the exchange should be responsible, since the phishing attempts probably only worked because of the data breach, but I can see how that would be difficult to prove in court. I'm assuming the other two people are on the same boat. The last person, on the other hand, from a different article:

The judge, however, found both Bithumb and Jang partially responsible, noting that the victim provided details that were not originally included in the data which was exfiltrated from the exchange.

I don't really know what that means myself lol. I mean, isn't the point of phishing to gather more data about you using data they already have? Details are scant so we can't really make conclusions of our own, but if there's something to be taken out of this, it's that you shouldn't store large amounts in exchanges.
97  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin ‘Young Investment’ Wallets at Highest Level Since February 2018 on: September 25, 2020, 08:50:00 AM
The pandemic opened many individuals eyes, they began to realize all the do called safe heaven they thought they had like Gold, OIl etc couldn't secured their funds and prevent losses instead they were the asset with one of the worst hits (most especially oil).

Gold has been doing fine though? I mean I guess supply lines were hit, but that shouldn't have too much effect on retail investors. Bitcoin has definitely done better YTD, but it's looking to me like the pandemic hasn't really given people much reason to sour on it.

Quote
the investor interest remained strong even as prices fell back sharply to $6,000 in February 2018.
theres no way to tell if those investors are still the same except if they will do a survey and check all those that do a kyc but i feel that most of the users are quitting after the bull run .

Well not individually, but this is Chainanalysis, which is generally believed to know their stuff; I'm sure there are trends which led them to this conclusion. It's not hard to believe that the general market sentiment has improved this year either, after the shitstorm the global economy has gone through.
98  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kraken becomes first exchange offically declared as a US bank on: September 24, 2020, 08:48:36 AM
Your presumption about Kraken to be more centralized is the truth but they don't have a choice

"Centralized" is being used incorrectly here. Kraken has always been 100% centralized, since it's a for-profit company that has a small group of people calling the shots. The same is true for basically every other crypto company out there.

The term you're looking for is probably "compliant", meaning they'll stick closer to guidelines laid out by regulators. That being said, I don't think there will be any noticeable changes on the consumers' end, since the large exchanges in the US are already compliant anyway.
99  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When we think that crypto is being used by criminals to move tons of money on: September 23, 2020, 01:59:53 AM
It seems this time they will stop throwing bad words to the Bitcoin and covering fiat for the fraud activities which is through the bank.

Nah, unfortunately. This isn't the first time an incident like this has been exposed, and it won't be the last considering the slap on the wrist penalties on the parties involved. Give it a week and they'll act high and mighty again as people forget.

The fact of the matter is, banks do stop money laundering for majority of the population, but they've historically let big fish through. Whenever they talk about stopping money laundering, they're referring to us common folk, not the criminal empires they're in bed with.
100  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Evasive URLs in Spam on: September 22, 2020, 12:49:42 PM
As someone who doesn't have technical knowledge with the URLs and those types, I wouldn't click a link that I don't have an idea. If it's something suspicious, I'll ignore it for real as I don't want to be threatened by those links that I have no idea what they are.

Having add-ons like NoScript helps immensely for less technical people, just in case they trip up and click something suspicious by accident. It's not going to help against clone phishing sites (there are also add-ons for that though), but it should at least block most attempts to auto-download malware.

That being said, regardless of what protection you may have, it's still best not to risk potentially losing your crypto just for curiosity. If a stranger is trying to get you to click something, you're likely not going to want to see it anyway.
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