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Jesus, I thought my home made cases were nice. I bow to you sir! VERY nice work!
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Everyone trying to "save" potential future miners thinks that the only reason anyone would ever want to get into this is to make a positive ROI in BTC on their investment into mining equipment. There are a whole slew of other reasons people want to get involved, not the least of which is a return in fiat currency.
The term Return On Investment is abused so badly in this forum. Everything you do gets an ROI, so someone telling you "it will never ROI" has no clue what they are talking about and should be summarily ignored. If I invest $100 and get back $1, my return on investment is -99%. Or, my overall return is negative $99. If I invest in model rocketry, I burn up a few dollars every time I launch a rocket. There is no financial return on investment for the money I spend there, but there is still an ROI that can be calculated. If I spend $60 on a USB Block Erupter, I may earn back a dollar or two on that hobby. In the mean time who is to say I didn't enjoy having it, playing around with pools and other alt currency, maybe mining against CEX.IO for a bit and trading some small amount there. Part of the return on investment is subjective, and not quantifiable. It was enjoyment, same as the model rocketry hobby.
The thing the big miners have forgotten is that at small amounts this is a fun hobby. It all changes when you (over) extend yourself in one way or another to buy a big quantity of mining equipment. It is no longer fun. Instead it is a race against time to make that money back.
My suggestion is this: If you see this as a hobby, invest in anything you can afford to lose and don't worry about making all your money back on it. Enjoy this for what it is. If you already invested your life savings and you saw this as your way to make it big so you don't have to work anymore: Sorry, you are screwed, and people will eventually learn to ignore their FUD about mining.
I fail to understand how plugging in a usb device is considered a hobby.. I agree with everyone on this forum who mine btc to make a profit. Many bitcoin miners have seen a positive ROI even in terms of btc if they were lucky. Sort of the same as people overclocking their PC's. Technically your wasting money, but for the enthusiasts it well worth the fun. Plugging in the USB miners is the same thing. Pushing numbers to how far you can get with a certain type of setup. They may or may not make money, but in their eyes it's just plain fun. How is overclocking wasting money? In many cases overclocking saves money and yeilds higher performance. Usb miners are obviously for enthusiasts but that is just about it in my opinion. If you bought just about any other asic around the time of release you either reached ROI or came very close and selling the asic later would just add to the roi. HOLY FUCK PEOPLE!! There are about 96 billion ways to make money. IF you NEED to make more money, work harder or get a better job. Jesus, how hard is this to comprehend? Jibber jabbing about 'ROI' and bitcoin and 'asics' etc....seriously? All the time you spend here discussing your delusions could have been spent doing 'real' work and making real money. If you think you are are going to get rich with bitcoin you are probably someone who also buys lottery tickets. Sure, someone will get rich, probably not you, fool. Have fun with all this but re-fucking-lax! |
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I have talked to the people at blackarrow, they respond fast and have shipped product before. I don't think they are a scam.
No NO..... HUGE SCAM!! ALERT ALERT!!!DO NOT BUY!!! They will not deliver, EVER!!!  so, typing random info on some forum...how useful is this? Really, think about it? I rely on the guys who have been to their facilities and talked to them (posted pics etc). If you need more proof than this than you are..well, gay. You put the 'g' in gay. It is as simple as that. You are gay and you love the cock and should not involve yourself with bitcock. |
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I have talked to the people at blackarrow, they respond fast and have shipped product before. I don't think they are a scam.
No NO..... HUGE SCAM!! ALERT ALERT!!!DO NOT BUY!!! They will not deliver, EVER!!! |
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I have some for sale, $45 each or same in bitcoin
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Must include miner and ras pi, preferably 5gh/s up to 500gh/s no stupid offers I'll pay for shipping.
Might have been easier to say "I have free money I don't want, who would like it, oh, I will deliver it too" |
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wow even I dont try to rape fools this badly, lol
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You want...
$600 for that?!
Wow.
you should check out his ebay listing...he wants 900 for 10 hehe still laughing here Apparently you havnt been on ebay. He is likely to get it.. lol Some still left. Price dropped to reflect bitcoin drop. Also added fiat payment options. |
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Agree that video could be any asic manufacturing plant,no proof at all
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Yes I agree, 100% a scam, suggest you do NOT buy
/sarcasm
Now with all the unsold units they will drop the price and I can buy even more than I already have.
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Blackarrow will deliver the goods, on time. I will be selling my X-1's for a grand each when they arrive. They will sell out in 2 hours.
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make sure to grab msi afterburner to overclock them. You can oc each card to squeeze a bit extra out of each card, free and easy extra hashing
you might want to undervolt them a bit too so they run a bit cooler
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start with getting ONE card working, then start adding more cards
you might be pushing it with a 750 watt psu for 5 cards
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I used alum angle iron from canadian tire $7 for a six foot section
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asrock extreme 3 works too and is much cheaper. I run a mix of both boards, the 4 does have a nice power switch on it though which is handy.
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what version of window 7 do i need to install? also is there any additional settings i need to make to window 7?
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any works, and heres a great tip, just do the basic install and do NOT install any of the updates. Works 100% and installs in about 20 mins. Versus hours and about 20 reboots for various useless updates that you do not need to mine. Make sure you have cgminer (or whatever, I find 3.4 the most stable) and some other drivers on (ie netframework for cgwatcher, amd sdk is sometimes needed and its huge, amd vid card drivers, I use one of the older ones as its way more stable) a flash drive so save downloading them, makes for a faster install.
You should turn stuff off like auto updates (you will wake up with a non mining rig because windows updated over night). Bunch of other annoying stuff that interferes with mining that I also turn off
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you dont need a powered riser unless your psu is running very close to its max (which is a bad idea in general)
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I have about 15 unopened powered risers if you want to buy one
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what psu you planning on running? Suggest you simply build another cheap rig and run 3 cards on each. Thats very easy to do and if one goes down and you dont notice it for hours and hours (yes it will happen, many times) you only have 3 cards not mining instead of 6, ie you just paid for your second rig because 3 cards mined all night while you slept
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running more than 4 gpus on a single mobo is annoying. Lots of crashes and lockups. Trust me, you will spend way to much time trying to keep it stable.
At the end of the day you just want a stable rig that needs no babysitting.
That may be your opinion, but I have many 7 card linux rigs that are stable for weeks at a time. I only have to intervene if there is a hardware failure of some sort (or to switch pools). Glad that works for you, I wish I had such luck. A lot of people will be running windows, for them, running 4 cards per rig is the way to go. Another thing to keep in mind is that if you wake up and see your rig has been down all night for what ever reason its better to have 4 cards offline instead of 7. All your eggs in one basket and all that  |
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