Investor Prospectus?Rob or anyone know of a something like an investor prospectus for this masternode being proposed for potential investors? You know something one can read over that that has risks involved, ROI, contact information, etc? If i were an investor then I could make a wiser investment decision if I understood exactly whats being proposed right? I think i heard mention of '401k' type schemes. It sounds interesting but its very hard to discern whats going on without it all in one document signed by the organization. I just find statements here and there on this forum thread. Retirement accounts are people's nest eggs after all. Maybe a phone number to talk to someone? Maybe I could find it on the biblepay.org website? or the accountability page at the pool? That way the public at large can find it and research its merits. I might even have a friend who can go in on it. But they are not going to read this entire thread and fish out the claims and risks right? Or will this be an announcement with a biblepay or btc address and everyone is to send their money in? That sounds pretty sketchy to me.  This may help get you started if such a thing doesnt exist yet. https://www.prospectus.com/private-placement-memorandum-services-information/how-to-write-a-prospectus/ An investor prospectus would have a very high bar, would need a review by an investment lawyer (very pricey) and might need oversight by the SEC. One reason why ICO's are now all overseas (with I think one exception thus far), is an ICO is being handled like an IPO with oversight from the SEC. While this coin is NOT AN ICO (sorry, lots of people miss that) and I mean no disrespect to the Dev or all those involved with it, this coin should not be seen as an investment. The road map does hope to see gains made in value, features added (like Debit Card and 401K integration) but seeing as how BTC is just now getting moving on an ETF, it's too early to really expect such a high bar from this or almost any coin short of the main four or five (BTC, ETH, XRP, maybe LTC, XMR, ZEC, NEO or NEM). At the point where BBP is in the top whatever and actually able to reasonably look at integration with 401K or even Debit cards, then that is a far more realistic time to talk about prospectus. Consider for a moment, that even XRP, which is backed by the financial industry does not have a prospectus. So if a coin with a $8B valuation cannot do that, I would think it very unrealistic to expect a $170K coin to out do them. Funny thing is that 'Rob' calls it an investment and mentions protecting investors in numerous posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042657.msg24191771#msg24191771"I don't want to cause a division, and I welcome the community input. What everyone has to understand is I have a responsibility to also protect the investor also, so things that make it to prod are hard to change." I mean revisionism/double speak is always a defensive tactic but come on guys, the masternode is clearly an investment. As for the other points saying that others are doing it so can we. I disagree. If you want to associate the project with the Bible and call it a currency for 'Christians' you are going to be held to a very high standard of integrity and transparency You and 'Rob' share similar writing styles. Two accounts? Or maybe you are an ardent team member. see Step 11 above(oh and thanks, i will revise the list to include 'never ever pretend the coin is an investment". Rob did though so lessons learnt. "He who has ears let him here... You will know them by their fruit" All, lets use our high group intelligence and not Feed the Troll. when you dont have an answer to an inquiry , attack the questioner. ad hominem We still need from you some kind of investor information page. if you legally dont want to be accountable to a 'prospectus' thats fine. but post something up publically. You are after all standing to raise at least over $150,000. maybe much much more. You cant find the time to put together document that binds your words? I tell you want Rob, i will pay you 100 biblepay for such a document. deal? i hear they will go up in value esp in Venezuela Attacking me doesnt remove your accountability. Truth Troll for the Bible - proud of it! |
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Investor Prospectus?Rob or anyone know of a something like an investor prospectus for this masternode being proposed for potential investors? You know something one can read over that that has risks involved, ROI, contact information, etc? If i were an investor then I could make a wiser investment decision if I understood exactly whats being proposed right? I think i heard mention of '401k' type schemes. It sounds interesting but its very hard to discern whats going on without it all in one document signed by the organization. I just find statements here and there on this forum thread. Retirement accounts are people's nest eggs after all. Maybe a phone number to talk to someone? Maybe I could find it on the biblepay.org website? or the accountability page at the pool? That way the public at large can find it and research its merits. I might even have a friend who can go in on it. But they are not going to read this entire thread and fish out the claims and risks right? Or will this be an announcement with a biblepay or btc address and everyone is to send their money in? That sounds pretty sketchy to me. This may help get you started if such a thing doesnt exist yet. https://www.prospectus.com/private-placement-memorandum-services-information/how-to-write-a-prospectus/ An investor prospectus would have a very high bar, would need a review by an investment lawyer (very pricey) and might need oversight by the SEC. One reason why ICO's are now all overseas (with I think one exception thus far), is an ICO is being handled like an IPO with oversight from the SEC. While this coin is NOT AN ICO (sorry, lots of people miss that) and I mean no disrespect to the Dev or all those involved with it, this coin should not be seen as an investment. The road map does hope to see gains made in value, features added (like Debit Card and 401K integration) but seeing as how BTC is just now getting moving on an ETF, it's too early to really expect such a high bar from this or almost any coin short of the main four or five (BTC, ETH, XRP, maybe LTC, XMR, ZEC, NEO or NEM). At the point where BBP is in the top whatever and actually able to reasonably look at integration with 401K or even Debit cards, then that is a far more realistic time to talk about prospectus. Consider for a moment, that even XRP, which is backed by the financial industry does not have a prospectus. So if a coin with a $8B valuation cannot do that, I would think it very unrealistic to expect a $170K coin to out do them. Funny thing is that 'Rob' calls it an investment and mentions protecting investors in numerous posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042657.msg24191771#msg24191771"I don't want to cause a division, and I welcome the community input. What everyone has to understand is I have a responsibility to also protect the investor also, so things that make it to prod are hard to change." I mean revisionism/double speak is always a defensive tactic but come on guys, the masternode is clearly an investment. As for the other points saying that others are doing it so can we. I disagree. If you want to associate the project with the Bible and call it a currency for 'Christians' you are going to be held to a very high standard of integrity and transparency You and 'Rob' share similar writing styles. Two accounts? Or maybe you are an ardent team member. see Step 11 above(oh and thanks, i will revise the list to include 'never ever pretend the coin is an investment". Rob did though so lessons learnt. "He who has ears let him here... You will know them by their fruit" |
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Investor Prospectus?Rob or anyone know of a something like an investor prospectus for this masternode being proposed for potential investors? You know something one can read over that that has risks involved, ROI, contact information, etc? If i were an investor then I could make a wiser investment decision if I understood exactly whats being proposed right? I think i heard mention of '401k' type schemes. It sounds interesting but its very hard to discern whats going on without it all in one document signed by the organization. I just find statements here and there on this forum thread. Retirement accounts are people's nest eggs after all. Maybe a phone number to talk to someone? Maybe I could find it on the biblepay.org website? or the accountability page at the pool? That way the public at large can find it and research its merits. I might even have a friend who can go in on it. But they are not going to read this entire thread and fish out the claims and risks right? Or will this be an announcement with a biblepay or btc address and everyone is to send their money in? That sounds pretty sketchy to me. This may help get you started if such a thing doesnt exist yet. https://www.prospectus.com/private-placement-memorandum-services-information/how-to-write-a-prospectus/
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Has anyone done a ROI on the sanctuaries?
With the price going up to 1.5M I am trying to work out how much I can put towards this before it becomes unrealistic.
I will continue to mine BBP either way, just may abandon the idea of a sanctuary.
I have a spreadsheet where I calculate this for MN coins. Obviously the return depends on the number of transactions and number of masternodes (and any decrease below the 12,313 BBP block reward that I am calculating it on, in addition to any price changes). Based on 1.5M BBP and assuming both enough transactions for blocks to be generated according to the 7 minute maximum and that the price remains the same as you pay for the BBP on the exchange (I'm ignoring mined coins used for Sanctuaries), I calculate: At 10 MNs, an ROI of 59 days (~616% Annual ROI). At 25 MNs, an ROI of 148 days (~246% Annual ROI). At 50 MNs, an ROI of 296 days (~123% Annual ROI). At 100 MNs, an ROI of 592 days (~61% Annual ROI). Thanks for that! Yes I guess all models are dependent on their assumptions. I wonder how many MNs we will have. I guess with the 1.5M figure, possibly not so many. Thanks again for taking the time to answer I wrote this simulation predicting the outcome of our Sanctuary ecosystem metric values, to give you all a better idea of what the ROI will be if you run a sanctuary, and to give us as a community a very good approximation to how many Sanctuaries will exist approximately one year after this Christmas: http://pool.biblepay.org/docs/roi.htmThis simulation shows that neither the investment cost of the sanctuary nor the BBP market price affects the Node Count. The only factor that changes the ecosystem is the participating node count itself. That count is driven by the individuals average ROI appetite. This means that regardless of the BTC Price, the BBP market price, the sanctuary escrow cost, we will end up with between 100 and 800 sanctuaries, due to the fact that the risk appetite of the individual sanctuary owner will either be : Yes, I will wait 12 months for my BiblePay ROI (giving us 100 sanctuaries), or Yes, I will wait 8 years for my BiblePay ROI (giving us 800 sanctuaries). Note that even if our price was up 1000%, and sanctuaries costed $67,000 each, this would remain true (see simulation). This means that the highest liklihood is a risk appetite of ~2 years, and a resulting sanctuary node count of 200. Note that it is a fallacy to believe "whales" will not come in and pay top dollar for sanctuaries. The capital markets are broad. If the ROI is consistent, even if our sanctuary costed $275,000 each, this spreadsheet would remain true-- except it would take longer for the node count to rise, and would not be fair for the smallest investors. Thats why I think $1200 will still be a good number to go with on Thanksgiving. 8 year forecasts in the cryptomarket huh? amazing crystal ball you have. see step 10 above  |
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How to spot a pump and dump cryptocurrencythe following is not investment advice. purely for entertainment. not about biblepay 1. pick a coin name. this is fun! 2. hide yourself so you can operate under obscurity. anonymous domains, hosting, emails, twitter account. in other words a very light google footprint 3. find a niche. create a novel feature or idea to generate interest and excitement. 4. fork a coin project, modify code base as much as is needed to set coin circulation rules, etc. 5. allow a huge amount of circulating coins to be mined, so they can be sold for very little per unit cost. this is critical. you want LOTS of your coins out there so people buy into many of them to give you a return. "make it up on volume" 6. get ahead of the miners by either premining it or having hashpower at the ready when the pools open up. remember if you dont have coins you cant sell coins. 7. run the first and only pool. be sure to give yourself some lead time so you are mining lots of coins. got to get those early block rewards! 8. since the token has no inherent value or userbase, create pyramid schemes of investment to create perceived value and generate investor greed. the coin must have mechanism for ‘whales’ to get involved . master nodes are an example since they promise coins kickback . but anything else can work 9. get on at least 1 exchange. CRITICAL. this turns your imaginary coin into real value (btc / fiat) 10. invent schemes to the coin that give perceived value so investors have a sense of long term plan. talk about a long term and many milestones to reach. mention HUGE gains so you can inflate the perceived value of the token. you must invent a scheme that requires a high level of investment so you can dump the coins. THINK BIG (plant that meme in the investor) 10.1 - make clear the coin is not an investment! 11. introduce cheerleaders and ‘coin shills’ to talk about the coin. have a team of people to help you promote the coin, debate counter opinion, etc. 12. ignore external help or advise. cant risk any delays to the window of payday. act busy cause its a race to the dump 13. finally pay day arrives, dump your coins by the millions on the exchange so you can get your btc! congratulations you have successfully created money out of thin air!To continue from here: 14. clamp down on any criticism (attack criticizer, threaten bans, legal threats, etc) and continue to promise more development and returns to protect future investor interest 15. if you want to exit, sure why not. just announce a retirement, 'still overseeing and advising', but 'let the community steer it from here'. You got the huge amount from the floor level of the pyramid so you won! 16. take a break you earned it! now you have a warchest of capital and memories. so many memories 17. if you are up for it, do it all agian. this time have your processes automated and have money to hire help Its a lot of work but it sure beats an honest day of work! ha! who needs integrity now days! /s  
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Venezuela:
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Already, its 32 million citizens are suffering shortages of food, medicine and other essentials as their money, the bolivar, is decimated by hyperinflation and recession reigns. Hundreds of thousands have left the country to survive, and many, many more could follow.
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Here is a real world use for Biblepay. If Venezuela would buy BBP monthly and then buy food with BBP, they would have a more stable currency than they have now (IE 19% Deflation instead of 7000% inflation).
illusions of grandeur but... they are working with the Chinese to come out with their own crypto. ultimately bitcoin and alts are destined / designed? to crash national fiat currencies. Its QE injection without borders |
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By your definition all stocks are ponzi schemes. Stocks are basically 'premined' by total shares outstanding. The float is then sold to investors. The rest is locked up to either insiders or the company treasury. The nice thing about cryptocurrencies is that they generally don't get diluted whereas stocks can issue more shares and dilute their investors if they so choose. Also cryptocurrencies don't have earnings estimates to miss. If your stock misses its earnings estimate then it generally gets whammed.
huge difference with stocks. they are regulated. the gov can pull your corporate charter at any time and kill the company. that gives a measure of stability and investor confidence. huge huge difference than crypto where any fly by night can fork a project, change a few lines of code, and have established miners jump on it for the next pump and dump. you cant compare the two also you are incorrect that cryptos cant get diluted. a coin can offer an infinite amount 'colored' versions of itself. or tokens based on the coin (like ethereum erc20). google stock can only be google stock. alt coin can be alt coin-red coin-blue etc edition. there is no accountability with crypto alts coins (worse with ICOs). you can operate in obscurity and cover your tracks the whole time. and come up with new schemes to generate investor interest. not so with a stock company. |
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Would you like it better if his name was Judas?
well that was the challenge question that was programmed at the pool 'Judas Priest' Interesting thing about Judas, John attributes this to Judas: http://biblehub.com/niv/john/12.htmBut one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, 5“Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages.b ” 6He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.
7“Leave her alone,” Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. 8You will always have the poor among you,c but you will not always have me.”Mathew and Mark have more to write about the situation: http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/26.htmhttp://biblehub.com/mark/14-5.htmWhile Jesus was in Bethany in the home of Simon the Leper, 7a woman came to him with an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, which she poured on his head as he was reclining at the table.
8When the disciples saw this, they were indignant. “Why this waste?” they asked. 9“This perfume could have been sold at a high price and the money given to the poor.”
10Aware of this, Jesus said to them, “Why are you bothering this woman? She has done a beautiful thing to me. 11The poor you will always have with you,a but you will not always have me. 12When she poured this perfume on my body, she did it to prepare me for burial. 13Truly I tell you, wherever this gospel is preached throughout the world, what she has done will also be told, in memory of her.”I don't believe that wherever the gospel is being preached throughout the world, that what the woman in Bethany did, is also being told. I think that is something that has to happen for the preaching of the gospel throughout the world to be authentic, and considered done. Furthermore: "The poor you will always have with you,a but you will not always have me."This brings up what I call the Judas contrapositive: If I (Jesus) am with you, we should celebrate. We should give it to the poor, then I (Jesus) am away from you. The contrapositive is a logical construct: If p then q; *q then *p (that is not q then not p). p=I am with you; q=we should celebrate;*q= we should give it to the poor; *p=I am away from you. So in other words, the logical consequence of Jesus being ascended and away is that we should spend money on the poor, which is exactly what this project aims to do. I always think of that statement 'the poor you will always have' as a statement of the futility of the promises of communism and socialism. Or as its rebranded today 'basic income'. The idea that poverty can go away if we only redistributed the wealth. In other words, no matter what mechanisms man comes up with Jesus tells us that the poor in life will always be a fact. |
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An acquaintance posted about BiblePay on a few Christian Facebook groups but they werent interested.
Even a lot of really smart people (even a lot I know personally) think Cryptocurrencies are a ponzi scheme still.
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I really like this coin because its max supply is 5 billion by 2050, so there is still a lot of time for people to get into it.
We need a good way to educate people about Cryptocurrencies. It will happen in time on its own, but will take time...
We are the 1st users, the testers, the techies, we are the early adopters.
Alt coins are a ponzi scheme. You just need to have a huge supply of the coin to mined early on (100's of million) and then sell that off to an 'investor' group who will buy them from you. That group hopes the price will rise and in turn sell them downstream to the next group in the scheme. And so does that group and on and on. The formula MUST have huge supply of coins for this to work. otherwise how can the initial teams profit if their tokens are valued at 1/100th of a cent when they enter the exchanges. 'we make it up on volume' principle holds true here. Its all about the market cap for this scheme as it feeds the greed and hopes of new comers to the ponzi. At no point in this chain is there a functional purpose of the coin other than price speculation. For most all alt coins this is true. Only the very high tech ones like ethereum aim to build an actual platform for functional utility. Biblepay is unique in that it claims to portion an amount to charity. And it has 237 million coins mined |
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Would you like it better if his name was Judas?
well that was the challenge question that was programmed at the pool 'Judas Priest' |
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So we should start with the creation of a guide booklet that can lay out guidelines about what it is, and help to onload people into biblepay, explain good security and backup practices, help them understand how running the wallet helps orphans, and distribute that to churches. This is first and foremost a charity. I don't think Christians are early adopters in cryptocurrencies: many of the coins out there are for anything but charity.
I agree with you. Unfortunately 'Rob' has hinted that the 10% to charities will end after the masternode sale event. He also stated he will withdraw and let the thing run on it own. I may be mistaken but that was my understanding Not much can be known who 'Rob' is. The dns records for bibleplay.org are private. May not be his real name. The supposed charity statements have no addition clue. I wouldnt invest my money with so many layers of obfuscation. Thats not investment advice but my own level of comfort with this whole operation. Bible believing Christians hold a higher level of standard and my gift of discernment is ringing a bell. "Those how have ears let them hear...You will know them by their fruit." Incorrect: I never "hinted" the 10% charity support would end; on the contrary, I say here that it will continue after sanctuaries go live. I will not withdraw, incorrect again. We are coding this system to be decentralized. This is so I do not have to be a single point of failure. Regarding unmasking, I said early in the thread I have a reason that I cant unmask completely yet as my other slack group is involved in a way that would currently be affected, but I "believe" I will eventually unmask, but Im not promising anything at this time. Please find another community to terrorize. I dont think you are good fit here. this is a public forum with diverse opinions. coming from Texas you should embrace free speech shouldnt you? its all about 'investor due diligence'. im sharing my research but others should do their due diligence. i offer no investment advice just my opinions biblepay.com was registered to a Tony and a few weeks before biblepay.org. maybe thats you or some partner. or another alias https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLukJBT79M4 |
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So we should start with the creation of a guide booklet that can lay out guidelines about what it is, and help to onload people into biblepay, explain good security and backup practices, help them understand how running the wallet helps orphans, and distribute that to churches. This is first and foremost a charity. I don't think Christians are early adopters in cryptocurrencies: many of the coins out there are for anything but charity.
I agree with you. Unfortunately 'Rob' has hinted that the 10% to charities will end after the masternode sale event. He also stated he will withdraw and let the thing run on it own. I may be mistaken but that was my understanding Not much can be known who 'Rob' is. The dns records for bibleplay.org are private. May not be his real name. The supposed charity statements have no addition clue. I wouldnt invest my money with so many layers of obfuscation. Thats not investment advice but my own level of comfort with this whole operation. Bible believing Christians hold a higher level of standard and my gift of discernment is ringing a bell. "Those how have ears let them hear...You will know them by their fruit." |
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Mini update on the state of affairs of BiblePay (or to put it another way, what is going on in TestNet):
The Amazon ecommerce gateway is coming along nicely. As you can see now you can buy bibles on the pool through this same code. (Ill be adding emergency food soon).
If you buy a bible using BiblePay, you will be able to see the tracking number in Status3 automatically. The system has an elaborate API layer (called the BiblePay Mouse API) that tracks your package through amazons network. This code is going to be exposed through the "chosen sanctuary" so that people can also buy a bible through the RPC console soon. The BiblePay Mouse API also validates postal addresses and rejects orders to bad addresses.
how is amazon able to accept orders using biblepay? i dont think they yet accept btc so how is that exchange taking place? Our code is making it take place, they dont accept BTC. are you running it through an affiliate link? |
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Does anybody know a cheap cloud server with low monthly fee's
not worth it. i tried but stopped it |
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Mini update on the state of affairs of BiblePay (or to put it another way, what is going on in TestNet):
The Amazon ecommerce gateway is coming along nicely. As you can see now you can buy bibles on the pool through this same code. (Ill be adding emergency food soon).
If you buy a bible using BiblePay, you will be able to see the tracking number in Status3 automatically. The system has an elaborate API layer (called the BiblePay Mouse API) that tracks your package through amazons network. This code is going to be exposed through the "chosen sanctuary" so that people can also buy a bible through the RPC console soon. The BiblePay Mouse API also validates postal addresses and rejects orders to bad addresses.
how is amazon able to accept orders using biblepay? i dont think they yet accept btc so how is that exchange taking place? |
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Not that it makes your point incorrect but rather it seems to me that if you applied the same level of zeal towards the label placed on masternodes on the label you place on yourself (which is itself a temple of the Holy Spirit according to 1 Corin. 6:19) you would have to change your name
i absolutely agree with you. if there is a way to change it. i cant find any. so id have to setup a new account if that is even possible on bitcointalk |
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If you want God's favor, do not call it a sanctuary.
Coinpimp, you stated your opinion. Our flavor of masternodes are called sanctuaries because they are a place of refuge. They will make the decisions to release the funds for the orphans benefit. Money is neutral, it can be used for good or bad. You are starting to miss the forest from the trees. Our sanctuaries are not holy, nor are we defiling Gods holiness to run a sanctuary. If we set up a bitcoin miner in a temple, then we would be acting in vain. Stop spamming. im not spamming. I am pointing out what the Bible speaks to this topic. If thats spam then... Your spamming because the last 4 pages are filled with posts from you- you are becoming the new Satoshiate. If you want your opinion to count, then kindly *suggest* things with a lot of evidence and have a two way conversation. I replied to you and pointed out my opinion on the matter and you disregarded it. In addition, things are not going to be changed that are already building blocks in prod unless they are deemed to be ironclad changes by the whole community. You would need to run a poll on this on our forum and receive input from everyone in the comments for this particular issue. Your handle is Coin Pimp and you want to tell us we are heathens. you got me on the username handle. no way to change it. only through a new account perhaps. i didnt disregard your opinion. I applied a biblical filter to it and asked you to do the same. Your opinion or my opinion on a great many things in life are typically very different from how the Bible sees things. The Bible helps corrects ones understanding to how God sees things. You decided to start a project with the Bible in it. Did you not expect to be 'spammed' by people who have great zeal for it? You should consider them a great asset to the project as they will fight tooth and nail for the Truth. Those people are longsuffering and with noble intentions |
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If you want God's favor, do not call it a sanctuary.
Coinpimp, you stated your opinion. Our flavor of masternodes are called sanctuaries because they are a place of refuge. They will make the decisions to release the funds for the orphans benefit. Money is neutral, it can be used for good or bad. You are starting to miss the forest from the trees. Our sanctuaries are not holy, nor are we defiling Gods holiness to run a sanctuary. If we set up a bitcoin miner in a temple, then we would be acting in vain. Stop spamming. im not spamming. I am pointing out what the Bible speaks to this topic. If thats spam then... Psalm 69:9 |
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What did Jesus say and do to the money changers at the Temple? He literally wipped their *sses! Its the ONLY account in the Gospel of Jesus losing his mind! Jesus Cleanses the Temple…14 In the temple courts He found men selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and money changers seated at their tables. 15 So He made a whip out of cords and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle. He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those selling doves He said, “Get these out of here! How dare you turn My Father’s house into a marketplace!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boNIL1owRAIi am available to offer my time for development to cleanse the moneychangers from the sanctuaries I have a question for everyone: Do you think presenting this coin to a church audience would violate this scripture, or any scripture? For instance, Catholic Mass has collections for operations and then a second collection for a cause. I have also been to churches which do fundraising in the foyer of the church, or sales of items after church inside the church. Do you think it would be against scripture to do PR for this coin around a church congregation? Just looking for everyone's input on this. Jesus cleanses the Temple is a good topic. First of all, I feel the greatest sin in this case is disregarding something that is Holy, The Temple, and conducting unholy business in his house. To Jesus, I bet it feels like they misused the temple as a gathering place, reaped free advertising benefits (because those in the town know where to go to trade), yelled out bids for things (reducing the use of the temple to something unholy), and in general took his Temples dedication in vain. Yes, I do think we should take this seriously, and create a document that puts up walls in BiblePay to keep what is holy holy, to show respect for Gods Kingdom. We should ensure we pass the litmus test - and I believe we do otherwise I would have given up earlier - that we provide a currency for Christians to exchange value while biblically tithing 10% of the top to the orphans. We dont have any intention of doing unholy things with it, or setting up unholy practices. The small part of this, the question about conducting business inside a church, I think the answer is the applicaton of biblepay during church hours can be promoted as : educational materials (buying bibles), extending our community to more Christians, using it as a currency to help others in need in the church (IE the one who cant pay their rent maybe receives it in biblepay), and of course our core function: helping orphans, by extending our community those that pick it up might invest a sliver of their retirement account in biblepay, thereby helping orphans now, with the expectation that in 10 years the retirement account can be withdrawn and help themselves. If we create a pamphlet with our Dos and Donts that keep us holy, and we gave that to the priest, then he/she would realize this is intended to be done off hours, not during church, etc. my vote is dont call the masternodes sanctuaries! there is nothing 'holy' about biblepay or masternodes marketed as 'sanctuaries'. Nor is bible pay a church. a couple pages earlier they were being considered to be called 'god' nodes. eh??? i suggest you do a Bible study on 'sanctuaries'. I dont mean google the term, read a bunch of mainstream articles, then form your opinion on it and call it day. I mean take the Bible out, go to a website that has a concordance and read every single verse, story, and account of it. And pray about it. On your knees type prayer. Understand how God sees them. God will give you wisdom and discernment to understand not to commingle money with a sacred place of refuge. I mean lets get real here. what does a masternode actually do that one can label it a sanctuary? it holds a cache of units and handles transactions. its a by definition a money changer - Jesus exactly lays out his view on not to perform money changing enterprises inside a sanctuary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6FYLZouuMYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boNIL1owRAIIf you want God's favor, do not call it a sanctuary. |
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