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81  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: crypto Currency is making people millionaires all over the world on: November 20, 2017, 04:13:49 PM
Well, some become millionaire and most don't. We are actually blind from the fact that we won't be able become a millionaire just by holding a small amount of Bitcoin. We need a large amount of it, Good skills and luck. Those whales are the ones who gets rich even more by hoarding Bitcoin and tricking newbie investors who just panic sells while the big guys are happy with it because they know that they will profit big time again.


Bingo
82  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Exchanges for converting Crypto into Fiat on: November 20, 2017, 09:09:11 AM
Hi guys,

Thanks so much for the suggestions so far. been looking into Shapeshift, but that is not really what I was looking for (as it only exchanges crypto to other crypto). I was looking for exchanging crypto (other than BTC) into fiat and then withdraw to my bank without the high fees of Coinbase. All of the other stuff I can already do at my preferred exchanges. Thanks again for the suggestions, but for Crypto > Fiat > Bank Account I guess I will be stukc with Coinbase for now  Sad

If I need a withdrawal that very day, i don't always like to exchange into BTC because of the very long confirmation times (now) and sometimes rapid price swings.
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ICOrating - Rating agency for ICO-market on: November 19, 2017, 09:06:38 AM
how do we know icorating does not take money from ico's? is there any info about this?


Any answer to this?
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🔷 trade.io 🔷[BOUNTY] [Airdrop] 🔷 [ICO] TRADE TOKEN 🔷 on: November 19, 2017, 08:37:55 AM
Hi guys.. where can we find the most up to dat spreadsheet from all the trade.io bounties up till now?
85  Economy / Trading Discussion / Exchanges for converting Crypto into Fiat on: November 18, 2017, 03:22:06 PM
Hi Guys.

Are there more exchanges like Coinbase that allow me to deposit my crypto (mainly ETH, BTC, LTC, the bigger ones)  there from other wallets and then exchange that crypto into fiat currency and then withdraw it to my bank account? I have done this through Coinbase before, but the fees are quite high.

It's really jumping through a lot of hoops mostly turning paper profits from the exchanges to money in your bank account.

Thanks for any suggestions and advise.
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 18, 2017, 11:43:37 AM
Love love OTN  Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss

Sell and buy and now get double token in 5 minute.........before 16588 now..........30521 token thanks to this really crazy speculation........dump and pump

No comment....this can happen only in cryptoworld I hope someone do same me and win really much token

That is awesome. And that ladies and gents, is how the game is played. Well done! A lot of people panic and sell off, but the smart ones buy back in!
Sadly, I missed that whole price action.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 16, 2017, 06:55:05 PM
How many OTN's you got?
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: crypto Currency is making people millionaires all over the world on: November 16, 2017, 10:21:15 AM
2020 millionaires all  over the world Grin Grin

Guys... if this were true than it would be true with any booming and upcoming market. So I ask you this; 'Where are all the millionares from the rise of the internet?'

Exactly... some made it to millionare.. some even to billionare.. but lets face it, it takes a hell of a lot of 'in the right place at the right time' & insight & due diligence & yes.. luck too.

let's keep a healthy perspective. That's all I am saying. I't easy to fall pray to your own hopes, doubts and fears. These are the things that all traders and investers should be very wary of.

Ofcourse we would al like to make it big, but we know only a few will.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any new airdrop coins? on: November 16, 2017, 08:18:28 AM
I think the should be an active thread for Airdrop projects

Isn't this that thread?
90  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: crypto Currency is making people millionaires all over the world on: November 15, 2017, 03:54:16 PM
If history tells us anything then:

As soon as 'joe public' starts to want to get 'in on the action' you know the jig is up. It then becomes a hunting ground for big whales and sharks who will eat joe public for lunch and end up getting richer in the process.
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any new airdrop coins? on: November 15, 2017, 03:22:39 PM
Seems like more and more junk get's released...
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🔷 trade.io 🔷[BOUNTY] [Airdrop] 🔷 [ICO] TRADE TOKEN 🔷 on: November 15, 2017, 02:54:12 PM
This looks like an interresting concept for sure. Many more are working on solutions like this. My guess is that there will be as many of these as there are retail brokers right now.
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[BOUNTY]ROCKET ICO - ACCELERATOR FOR STARTUPS. ENDS 15TH OF DECEMBER on: November 15, 2017, 08:53:27 AM
Phew.. made it on the whitelist registration with the bonus on the last day with a couple of hours to go. I hope this project takes off. Not just because of my own investment but also, more projects like this (there are a few others like this) can help iprove the quality of blockchain projects before they hit the market and provide more trustworthy projects/ICO's in which we can invest with more confidence and less fear of pump & dump schemes.

Although it would be very ironic if this was exactly such a scheme  Roll Eyes Grin


94  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ☢ LIST ☢ BitcoinTalk's Escrow Providers: Ranking & Blacklist ☠ Avoid Scammers ☠ on: November 14, 2017, 03:51:04 PM
Hi guys. I am very new to this concept. I have a deal coming up with someone wanting to sell me some alt coins he doesnt want in exchange for €150,- worth of ETH.

Now, I don't know the guy, I've never met him and I met him on another forum (from a trading platform).
Ofcourse I am more than willing to pay him the ETH..

But how do I approach this so we can both be sure we get what we payed for from eachother without 1 having to make the first step in 100% good faith? How do I go about escrow? Have absolutely zero experience in this, so I am asking for your help.
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[BOUNTY]ROCKET ICO - DECENTRALIZED ACCELERATOR FOR STARTUPS on: November 14, 2017, 12:30:54 PM
I already did  Grin
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[BOUNTY]ROCKET ICO - DECENTRALIZED ACCELERATOR FOR STARTUPS on: November 13, 2017, 02:29:20 PM
One more question... will we receive our whitelist ROCK in our ETH wallet before the ICO starts?


Also.. just read this in a news article:

In a recent speech to an exclusive group of attorneys in New York, Walter Joseph “Jay” Clayton III, Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commision (SEC), equated Initial Coin Offerings (ICOs) with securities, which will mean a massive regulation of the cryptocurrency market. Clayton stated:

“Trading of tokens on these platforms is susceptible to price manipulation and other fraudulent trading practices. ICOs may be securities, and those who offer and sell securities in the United States must comply with the federal securities laws. Any person or entity engaging in the activities of an exchange must register as a national securities exchange.”

What is Rocket ICO's take on this? Seems like something like Rocket ICO does away with the need of something like SEC regulation. I think.. 'let the platform come up with a solution..self regulation more or less'
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 13, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
$42.72   and a cup and handle is formed. get ready to skyrocket again. x10 would be place 20 at coinmarketcap. x100 would be place 5. also new money comming in into crypto daily this means that it could do x100 without the need to reach place 5 Cheesy

Other then manipulation, how can u justify or explain  the excessive rise of this token. There is litterally no use for it, other then just being a token. 


It's a token.. correct. It's practical application will be for payments in the OTN platform itself (that gets launched 2nd quarter of 2018). In time, it will be released as coin. At least, that is the roadmap.
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 13, 2017, 07:41:21 AM
Maybe it's so high because they kept supply low? There are only about 1,300,000 tokens in circulation.
OTN and IQ Options themselves own 58 million tokens, not counting reward tokens.
So their coins are now worth $2 billion. Hard to not think of it as intentional. They got way more money out of it than by doing an ICO.
And if you want coins you have to trade on their platform. Wow.

Or you can just buy them on Cryptopia or Livecoin (which is actually becoming cheaper now than obtaining them through paying commission on the IQ platform). Of course the the value is going up because of the limitations on the weekly emissions, thus limiting supply. But also.. do not underestimate how big IQ option's user base is. Crypto trading has only been operational on their platform for a few months now. This week alone the grossed over 600.000,- in comissions on crypto trades. That should give you an idea of the scope of it. They plan on taking advantage of the booming crypto market and offer trading solutions that facilitate the trading and exchange, hence they partnered with OTN. The roll-out of the wallet will be in February 2018 and the OTN exchange itself in April 2018.

There is a very high chance of success due to the very large user base of IQ that is already using their platform for crypto trades and will simply transition through to OTN in 2018 as they keep using the platform as OTN will be integrated within their platform.

Now, I certainly do not agree with all of IQ's business practices, but I most certainly think they are on to something here.

I know I am new to this forum, but I am in no way affiliated with any company. Just orientating on crypto investments.
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 12, 2017, 09:51:39 AM
One question... in order to get free coins

"16,000,000 to OTN token holders, as a reward for holding OTN tokens in order to boost capitalization"

 I only have to hold OTN tokens in MEW or must I done something else?

You need to hold token on your wallet erc20 every three months you get more token as reward.....just hold on wallet and wait until 1 january and three months again and again for 2 year

Ok... thank you very much... so... I'll hold for now... three months you said?... ok... I can wait  Wink

It's only about 3-5% per quarter. So nothing too crazy.. Well.. except maybe for the people who already hold thousands of OTN.
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[BOUNTY]ROCKET ICO - DECENTRALIZED ACCELERATOR FOR STARTUPS on: November 11, 2017, 07:39:22 AM
Hey guys, this project looks promising I must say.

I am a bit new to this startup-ICO thing, so forgive me if this is in these 22 pages somewhere, but to get things straight: there's 3 ways to acquire ROCK at this moment

1- Through the whitelist registration (receive ROCK for ETH payment)

2- Through Bounty; so the way this works, if I understand correctly is, in exchange for promoting this project I will receive ROCK (how does this work, payment wise?)

3- Through the ICO (which starts in 4 days from now) (on which exchanges will the ICO be listed?)


Thank you for indulging me and thanks for the help  Kiss
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