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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RLC] iEx.ec blockchain-based distributed cloud announces its Crowdsale on: April 19, 2018, 08:35:36 PM


RLC  will be  helpful in the AI  stage? 

How  can RLC  help  to   be better AI?
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 19, 2018, 07:54:18 PM



IOT  CHAIN  is   ERC20  for  the  moment.   It  will have its  own network.

It  has  BFT  consensous,  which is  SECURE

A  word  that the  TANGLE  does  not  know  ''SECURITY''


It's  because is   a  tecnlogy  on its  infancy, so it  is  unsecure  by definition, full of  bugs,  vulnerabilities

At the first attak on the network, IOTA  will probably lose all its  value  the same as it happened  Nano

Iot chain has  BFT consensus, this means  that the security and  privacy is  a must

IOT chain will also  utilize  DAG   plus  BFT consensous
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Best AI Blockchain project on: April 19, 2018, 07:20:02 PM
Which  one  would you choose  and  why?

Matrix AI

Deep Brain Chain

SIngularityNet



Could you please  share an accurate  rewiev
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 19, 2018, 06:10:51 AM
Lotta people confident in IOTA but after seeing how the developers respond to their followers I really don't see a long term future for this unless they clean up their act. Even then the Tangle is... clunky.

You do know what "BETA" and "not production ready" mean -- I'll remind you in 6-8 months that you didn't.



It has been  ''''BETA''''  for  5  years

We are in 2018, still beta, no wallet, funds  has been  disapeared in December,  Tangle full  of  bugs  discovered  by researchers





How long should the protocal layer of the IOT take? If it were easy, someone would have already done it--especially given the estimates for the IOT market are in the tens of trillions of dollars.

There is a wallet--not sure why you keep repeating this fallacy. I think you confused another poster's comment on hardwallets for wallet apps--but you seem to get a lot of details wrong and keep repeating them, so not at all surprising.

They held everyone's funds that were in danger and are in the process of giving them back--both Bitcoin and Ethreum have had major software issues, and if you spent as much time scouring for their FUD, you would have found them and acknowldege what most rational people realize--that software is never perfect and development is an iterative process. Just a reminder for those who would rather not be purveyors of a double standard https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident <--if that had been IOTA, imagine the outcry.

Heilman's research is contested (he also has a conflict of interest with his link to daglabs) and the IOTA devs removed the hash function in question, despite their belief that Heilman was mistaken. I'll wait for the third party researchers to determine who was correct.



You  didn't told me  why the  token  should  increase  value.

WHY  should IOTA token increase value'

Do you know  the  law  of supply and demand?   2  BILLION TOKENS


LEARN ECONOMY




LEARN TO READ

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2357298.msg34811358#msg34811358


So,  as  seen  that  you are smart, let  me to know   what  do you  think about  the competition.

What  about  IOTtex?

https://thebitcoin.pub/t/iotex-the-iota-killer/33356

https://www.iotex.io/FAQ


IoT has rapidly evolved over the years, but lacks real “killer applications”. McKinsey predicted that IoT could generate up to $11.1 trillion per year in economic value by 2025. Despite the potential of IoT, there are roadblocks ahead: lack of scalability, privacy concerns, and lack of functional values. IoTeX solves these problems by introducing a blockchain-in-blockchain architecture with token economy. By combining token incentives with community efforts, we believe we can crowdsource industry and community talents to address these technical challenges in IoT development.


At the highest level, we have four main innovations: 1. Blockchain-in-blockchain architecture which ensures privacy and prevents IoT information leakage; 2. Built-in privacy based on lightweight cryptography; 3. Real-time consensus with instant finality, which improves the throughput of the network, and reduces transactional cost, and boosts efficient cross-blockchain communication; 4. Subchain-as-a-service (SAAS) to facilitate fast prototyping and production of new IoT applications and ecosystems.



And  IOT chain.



So  IOTA use  DAG

Dag  is  a techno in its  infanc  and  FULL OF  BUGS


Which  one to choose?  Clearly  IOt chain and  IOTex







85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RLC] iEx.ec blockchain-based distributed cloud announces its Crowdsale on: April 18, 2018, 03:29:40 PM
Blockchain-Based Decentralized Cloud Computing. With the platform, iEx.ec aims to provide blockchain based distributed applications a scalable, secure and easy access to the computing resources required for their execution. Hiring of more blockchain talent, including prodigy, Blair Mclennan Joins iExec as a CM/Marketer. iExec Sponsoring BlockShow Europe 2018. Developers are currently working full-steam on the release of V2, planned.

How  can IExec  scale  if it  relays on Ethereum


86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 18, 2018, 02:38:29 PM
Lotta people confident in IOTA but after seeing how the developers respond to their followers I really don't see a long term future for this unless they clean up their act. Even then the Tangle is... clunky.

You do know what "BETA" and "not production ready" mean -- I'll remind you in 6-8 months that you didn't.



It has been  ''''BETA''''  for  5  years

We are in 2018, still beta, no wallet, funds  has been  disapeared in December,  Tangle full  of  bugs  discovered  by researchers





How long should the protocal layer of the IOT take? If it were easy, someone would have already done it--especially given the estimates for the IOT market are in the tens of trillions of dollars.

There is a wallet--not sure why you keep repeating this fallacy. I think you confused another poster's comment on hardwallets for wallet apps--but you seem to get a lot of details wrong and keep repeating them, so not at all surprising.

They held everyone's funds that were in danger and are in the process of giving them back--both Bitcoin and Ethreum have had major software issues, and if you spent as much time scouring for their FUD, you would have found them and acknowldege what most rational people realize--that software is never perfect and development is an iterative process. Just a reminder for those who would rather not be purveyors of a double standard https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident <--if that had been IOTA, imagine the outcry.

Heilman's research is contested (he also has a conflict of interest with his link to daglabs) and the IOTA devs removed the hash function in question, despite their belief that Heilman was mistaken. I'll wait for the third party researchers to determine who was correct.



You  didn't told me  why the  token  should  increase  value.

WHY  should IOTA token increase value'

Do you know  the  law  of supply and demand?   2  BILLION TOKENS


LEARN ECONOMY


87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 18, 2018, 09:40:40 AM
Lotta people confident in IOTA but after seeing how the developers respond to their followers I really don't see a long term future for this unless they clean up their act. Even then the Tangle is... clunky.

You do know what "BETA" and "not production ready" mean -- I'll remind you in 6-8 months that you didn't.



It has been  ''''BETA''''  for  5  years

We are in 2018, still beta, no wallet, funds  has been  disapeared in December,  Tangle full  of  bugs  discovered  by researchers



88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 18, 2018, 09:37:29 AM
iota will burst, it is a great project and i think it will go beyond ether . someone could build an app on iota and use mam payment streams/flash channels to have the artist "automatically and directly paid per second"
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What is the point  of  an artist  to be paid   for second?  They  will earn  better if  paid  for subscribers.

It's  a  weak use case,  don't  you see?

Lol, I have searched IOTA use of cases  and  everytime it's  shown this  use of case,   the  weakest use of case  the entire crypto ''Pay per second''

Aahahaha  who cares

89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 17, 2018, 06:21:58 PM
Iota, as well as bitcoin, is now experiencing hard times. Price sank very much. And if bitcoin supports a huge number of investors, then iota can collapse. It will be a pity.
IOTA is really under great pressure, if within 2-3 months the situation on the market does not change, I'm afraid that IOTA will completely become obsolete.

it will became

because  too promises  but still no  working product, AFTER  5 years  of development

The tanlge is full  of bugs ,  every hacker  on the planet can hack it.  DAG and the Tangle will never work because when there is NO incentive to keep secure the network (Fees  to  the MINERS)  there  are all  the incentives to ATTAK  the  network.

When you keep your funds into the wallet and you are not sure if tomorow they will be still there (It is  already happend)  the  value of the  network is  0




Are they going to use their ternary ASICs?



What  does  this mean?  It  has no correlation with what I have said



It's a joke--the fact that you don't realize the correlation just adds to it.

Hope  you didn't put  too much money  in a  project  that  in the  past had  many  Bugs

Tangle  is  an idee  a  ''tought'' ... it's  wounderful but unpraticable.  There  are  all the incentives to attak it, and no incentives to protect the network.

Look at Nano lol  ahha

All DAGs  project  are  unčraticable  DOUBLE SPENDING  sounds this word  familair  to you?  






 
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 17, 2018, 05:50:46 PM
Iota, as well as bitcoin, is now experiencing hard times. Price sank very much. And if bitcoin supports a huge number of investors, then iota can collapse. It will be a pity.
IOTA is really under great pressure, if within 2-3 months the situation on the market does not change, I'm afraid that IOTA will completely become obsolete.

it will became

because  too promises  but still no  working product, AFTER  5 years  of development

The tanlge is full  of bugs ,  every hacker  on the planet can hack it.  DAG and the Tangle will never work because when there is NO incentive to keep secure the network (Fees  to  the MINERS)  there  are all  the incentives to ATTAK  the  network.

When you keep your funds into the wallet and you are not sure if tomorow they will be still there (It is  already happend)  the  value of the  network is  0




Are they going to use their ternary ASICs?



What  does  this mean?  It  has no correlation with what I have said

91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 17, 2018, 04:55:39 PM
Iota, as well as bitcoin, is now experiencing hard times. Price sank very much. And if bitcoin supports a huge number of investors, then iota can collapse. It will be a pity.
IOTA is really under great pressure, if within 2-3 months the situation on the market does not change, I'm afraid that IOTA will completely become obsolete.

it will became

because  too promises  but still no  working product, AFTER  5 years  of development

The tanlge is full  of bugs ,  every hacker  on the planet can hack it.  DAG and the Tangle will never work because when there is NO incentive to keep secure the network (Fees  to  the MINERS)  there  are all  the incentives to ATTAK  the  network.

When you keep your funds into the wallet and you are not sure if tomorow they will be still there (It is  already happend)  the  value of the  network is  0


92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 17, 2018, 04:50:44 PM
IOTA  doesn't   have  a  wallet.    

Hmm, I have my IOTA on a wallet and will have them on an even better wallet, when Trinity will be released. How do you come to that conclusion ?


In  the best  case scenario that  the product   worked, all you  could  make is  a  x10, because  of the   great  coin total supply  (2  BILLIOOOSNS OF  COINS)

I wasn't aware of the fact, that there is an upper limit for how much worth a cryptocurrency can be. Where is this limit ?

Iota is already priced in

What is already priced in ?



 
With  2 BILLIONS  of coin you can not expect  a  price  increase more than  a  x10, that's  what I am  talking


I actually think the price can go up because more money will come into the cryptocurrency economy eventually. The total market cap is around 350 billion. Since we are still in the early days of this new technology, we can expect that market cap to keep rising. Bitcoin will get into the trillions at some point. I don’t see why IOTA couldn’t get to 100 billion if Bitcoin is in the trillions.


Tell us one reason why bitcoin should have a trillion market cap

Bitcoin is not the Nasdaq, bro.

You can not replace  the precedent performance of the burst of dot.com bubble and comparing with this bubble. Things are similar, but not  the same

Nasdaq  collects  all the tech stocks, bitcoin is a shit coin with archaic tech.

There is no garantee Bitcoin will resemble the 2000 Nasdaq's performance.

Put this in your mind.


93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 17, 2018, 03:07:39 PM
IOTA  doesn't   have  a  wallet.    

Hmm, I have my IOTA on a wallet and will have them on an even better wallet, when Trinity will be released. How do you come to that conclusion ?


In  the best  case scenario that  the product   worked, all you  could  make is  a  x10, because  of the   great  coin total supply  (2  BILLIOOOSNS OF  COINS)

I wasn't aware of the fact, that there is an upper limit for how much worth a cryptocurrency can be. Where is this limit ?

Iota is already priced in

What is already priced in ?



 
With  2 BILLIONS  of coin you can not expect  a  price  increase more than  a  x10, that's  what I am  talking
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 17, 2018, 02:09:48 PM


I tried  once to   talk about  IOTA in a forum.

This   was  this  answer:  ''Aahahahah  IOTA''


IOTA  doesn't   have  a  wallet.   

In  the best  case scenario that  the product   worked, all you  could  make is  a  x10, because  of the   great  coin total supply  (2  BILLIOOOSNS OF  COINS)

There  are  alternatives  in the market  with a fewer  coin supply ,  I am  talking about CPCchain, Streamr, IOT chainn

Iota is already priced in
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 16, 2018, 07:21:02 PM

Bitcoin Cash.

0-conf is accepted by plenty of merchants and fees are under a cent
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 16, 2018, 07:19:29 PM

Feeless transactions are a joke, there will always be fees under the form of direct payment or PoW because servers don't run on magic.

Also noone cares about fees as long as they are low and they will being with scaling.

97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 16, 2018, 07:01:01 PM
"Trillions of dollars"? Are you asuming there are a trillion sensors on the planet and one company has to pay for them--otherwise your statement doesn't make sense--though it still doesn't make much sense given there are a few billion IOT devices today and they aren't owned by a single entity.

Companies make money on that data from the devices they own--for example VW's automonous taxi intiative or google delivery drones. Also, they can buy the consumer data from the consumer, which gives them better analytics and market research. Most companies have silos of data sitting in dbs that could be sold on the openmarket through the data marketplace (though that doesn't only apply to data collected by sensors).


I am  smart enough to  thnk  with my head  and  not  to  fall into ''data  marketplace''

Every blockchain can do that  

And once again:  I will seel  data to Google, not  Google  to other people.

That's  why  IOTA is a  treat  for  Amazon, Google



Every blockchain can do feeless and scalable, the things needed to make a data marketplace feasible? Maybe you should go tell them that, because IOTA's the only one testing it. Would be weird that in market of overpromising money grabs, that one of the biggest money makers would be ignored by something anyone can do. /s


If the tangle  can't  find  as much as nodes possible  the network will relay on coordinator forever.

What makes  you think that  a lot  of  people  will join the IOTA network  making it  stronger?


98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XDAG] Dagger - New Community-based Cryptocurrency - First Mineable DAG ! on: April 16, 2018, 06:31:06 PM


A DAG coin  with proof  of  work? I don't get the point, can you explain why this coin should be better  than Nano?

99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 16, 2018, 06:24:59 PM
"Trillions of dollars"? Are you asuming there are a trillion sensors on the planet and one company has to pay for them--otherwise your statement doesn't make sense--though it still doesn't make much sense given there are a few billion IOT devices today and they aren't owned by a single entity.

Companies make money on that data from the devices they own--for example VW's automonous taxi intiative or google delivery drones. Also, they can buy the consumer data from the consumer, which gives them better analytics and market research. Most companies have silos of data sitting in dbs that could be sold on the openmarket through the data marketplace (though that doesn't only apply to data collected by sensors).


I am  smart enough to  thnk  with my head  and  not  to  fall into ''data  marketplace''

Every blockchain can do that  

And once again:  I will seel  data to Google, not  Google  to other people.

That's  why  IOTA is a  treat  for  Amazon, Google

100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 16, 2018, 06:18:46 PM
Simply ignore and dont feed the troll.  
Trolls troll, but we like to make money. Grin

IOTA IXI Hub is finished. That means we will see soon implementation in Poloniex, Kraken and Bittrex. The german largest Bitcoin exchange Bitcoin.de is going to list IOTA too. That opens Fiat Gateways together with Kraken.
And some feeling tells me that Bithumb will list IOTA too, because they like to list Top10 coins. Also Japanese Exchanges adding IOTA would not be surprising, as they have established strong contacts in Japan.

Basically IOTA is already too strong to fail. Fujitsu, Bosch, Daimler Benz (just wait a little bit), Volkswagen, Bosch, Samsung, Huawei...long list.
IOTA advisors sit in conferences with regulators in UK, Germany and G20.

All those who missed my last call on IOTA now have chance to enter a project which will span all over the world and become the largest decentralized network we have ever seen.
People have asked me if I do have another strong call for 2018. Yes. AION.

Basically you call  all  the worst coins... AION, lol  another   cross  chain project  

There  how many?  1000  projects  based on cross chain / interoperability cross chain blockchains


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