I propose the Bradley Manning Defense Fund ( http://couragetoresist.org/donate/bradley-manning.html) as a target charity. As a founder of the Bradley Manning Support Network, I know the players so I can help out in convincing Courage to Resist (the host 501(c)3 nonprofit) to agree to accept Bitcoin. |
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The funny part is no bitcoin service has ever been charged with money laundering.
...yet. My lawyer and I await my indictment. |
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Dear Mike,
I'm glad I was able to find you on this site. I've been having problems with your applications.
Firstly, I made a 1 BTC transaction on your bitcoinlaundry.com site. The fees were deducted, but I was simply relayed the BTC with no hops for obfuscation. I don't mind making a donation to you on a 1 BTC transfer, but the site provided no utility.
Hi there. bitcoinlaundry.com is a *very* simple mixer. Your BTC in is one hop, other BTC out to the address you provide is a second hop. There are other mixer services that use multiple wallets, but mine don't as yet. Secondly, I tried a 1.42 BTC transaction on your app.bitlaundry.com application. I sent it to two addresses, with one transaction per day, and a 1-day timeframe. Therefore, under your site's calculus, I should have incurred a fee of approximately (1.42 BTC*.0249)+2 outgoing transactions * (.009 BTC) = ~0.05BTC, and I should have received the balance at the two addresses provided.
Instead, it has been 24 hours and I have yet to receive a notification of a pending transfer to either address, let alone any confirmations.
Please see this image, which serves as proof that I sent the 1.42 BTC to the temporary address you provided, and that you have already transferred the money out from that address as well.
I know that you have a positive reputation and a posting history on this site, so I hope that you can help me rectify this situation. If you would prefer to do so via PM or email instead of a public forum, feel free to PM me a response, or shoot me an email.
Thanks much,
q6
Without trying to do the time zone gymnastics required to sort out the various logs and such, I do see: txid 8463aebf3aca1fa4ace80802f66fb03aa4142969a54a0989432406775ea7c969 and txid 0cc5fdce435249c548a38abe49c3695039984bd22fa5f0f21bc2ca926c594785 which are the payments on your scheme. These were issued at around 17 and 20 hours after your funding transaction reached 10 confirmations. I think this translates to approximately 1 and 4 hours after your message here, respectively  The 1.33... transaction from your scheme address went to a different user, which is kinda the whole idea. I saw mention from Gavin ( https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=135) that some transactions in the past week have taken extra long to confirm due to the network transaction volume sometimes exceeding the 250kB/block size limit, so this may have added some delay to your scheme. I try to minimize my logging, so I can't tell exactly, but it looks like your tx took about 2.5 hours to reach 10 confirmations. All good? Peace, Mike |
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Silly article mentions my bitlaundry site and they don't even bother trying to get a hold of me for a quote. This, sir, is an outrage!
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This is a great way to get people to think Bitcoin is a joke by some teenagers...
This forum needs a "rolls eyes" emoticon. |
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My stamps came in last week:   So far I've put at least 15 into circulation, zero hassle from merchants. |
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Please excuse me (instead of attack me) if I’m wrong but isn’t it illegal everywhere to deface money? You are all posting pictures with the money you have defaced. If some government had a pet peeve against Bitcoin they might want to come after you to set an example. Or do you guys just think this is so unlikely that you’re going to do it anyway?
Not illegal in Canada  Ah, that’s why I don’t see any US dollars in this thread. I just thought the laws might be similar. They do it on dollars too with the “Where’s George” thing but that’s just for laughs. It’s not like Bitcoin where some government might want to get revenge on a person using some obscure law. Thanks! Once upon a time in Orlando there was a head shop that sold stamps and green inked pads for putting a speech bubble above Washington's head on the $1 note that read "I grew hemp". All the ones coming out of their till as change to customers were stamped. They never had a problem. |
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Nefario could learn something with you ;-) Nefario told us exactly the same. But I'm OK with Mike. Btw auction disapeared. Is it sold already? Nefario approached the authorities himself. Mike probably wont Why on earth would I? To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place[d] under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality.
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Other than that: Domain squatting sucks.
GTFO
Eh, bite me. I bought it from the original registrant, who was selling Diablo II items there for BTC. I determined later that my time was better spent on other projects. |
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Forget legal council. Laws change on a whim if you haven't noticed. Voluntary trade is under attack. We need to quit asking for permission to do business. We can do that on Tor. I think Tormail is a good example to follow. They have their main servers hidden somewhere, and the public-facing website at tormail.org is a vps that's running nothing more than a Tor node and a copy of socat. +1. This is also now basically the architecture that The Pirate Bay uses: (...snip...) Agreed here on all counts. I'm in the bidding myself for Bitmit. Sure, I'll run it with as much jurisdictional diversity and back-end hiding as possible, and screw the lawyers anyway. I'm *also* willing to be the public figurehead who takes the legal blame if things go sour. "Stateless ex-American Anarchist on Trial in Europe for Running Unregulated Financial Service" just sounds too cool. |
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I own the domain btc2diablo.com if anyone's interested in acquiring it.
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These look great! What all did you get for your 7 quid exactly? I'll be collecting my stamps on Tuesday from a local vendor. I didn't put any kind of border on mine like on yours. I may be wrong about it but I suspect the chances of having a merchant reject a note would be higher in the case of a stamp with a border since it's more eye-catching. Will be interested to hear about your experience. |
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Euro banknotes which are mutilated or damaged to a minor degree, e.g. by having annotations, numbers or brief sentences placed on them, will in principle not be considered to be intentionally mutilated or damaged euro banknotes.
Good find. Shops may still reject them, though. I just ordered 5 35mmx10mm "Bitcoin.org" stamps to give out to some local comrades. Should be a nice fit for the EUR 5 note. Happy day that I was able to do this anonymously and pay in cash next week when I pick them up! Now I gotta find me some suitably-colored ink. |
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(writing on CA$50 notes is cool, but acceptance of them at retail generally means that only the retailer and a bank clerk will see them before they get returned to the central bank for destruction and replacement).
True, I thought about that but only had this denomination available in my wallet. That sounds like a good problem to have |
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I found an interesting document on this topic as regards countries currently using the euro: http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/articles/euro/documents/elteg_en.pdfMost countries mentioned in the report have no penalties for defacing/destroying notes or coins. However: Belgium: Defacing a coin or note punishable by 1 week to 3 months prison and/or a fine of EUR 26 to 1000. Ireland: Melting down a coin punishable by fine up to IEP 5000 (EUR 6343.87) and/or up to 2 years in prison. Cyprus: Fine of up to EUR 1708 for "defeaturement" of notes or coins. Malta: UP to EUR 1500 fine for any alteration to a banknote. Slovakia: Up to 6 months prison for damaging the national legal tender. The report suggests that such penalties would not normally be brought against an individual if the act was done for artistic purposes, for personal (non-exchange) uses only, and not in large quantities of notes/coins. My suggestion is that if you're going to promote Bitcoin on circulating paper money, obtain a large quantity of the smallest denomination note commonly circulated. Mark these up and keep a small number of them with you for payments. Don't present more than one or two of them in any retail transaction. Use the smallest notes because they draw less scrutiny at retailers, and because they're the most likely to be returned to other customers as change (writing on CA$50 notes is cool, but acceptance of them at retail generally means that only the retailer and a bank clerk will see them before they get returned to the central bank for destruction and replacement). Experiment with colors. Contrast is best for getting the message spread, but if retailers are consistently refusing your bold red text on light blue notes, try a color that doesn't clash with the rest of the note's color scheme. I think I'll order me a rubber stamp... |
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I don't actually recall ever seeing They Live, so now you've got me curious. TPB has it, of course. Dude, that film is core curriculum. PS: isohunt > TPB |
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Assuming there is no law against defacing your money (there probably is for fly posting) just write "bitcoin.org" on all the debt notes that pass through your hands then everyone who uses the money will see it.
Thanks a bunch for the ingenious guerrilla marketing idea. I've just gone ahead and done this for all the euro notes currently in my wallet. Here's photographic evidence as a sample:  I experimented a bit with different writing instruments, and in the end would recommend using a pencil. It works and looks better (at least on euro notes) than a ballpoint pen, doesn't permeate to the other side of the note as a felt tip pen would, and is erasable in case the payee gives you any grief about your illicit graffiti  Yeah, the erasability is important. While it's not illegal to write on Euro notes, notes that have been written on are no longer legal tender, so it's good idea to be able to erase that should someone not want to accept your notes. The Conspiracy wants you, children. Oh, it wants you bad. After I first saw "They Live" in late 1990, I had a rubber stamp made reading "THIS IS YOUR GOD" in big block letters of a size suitable for US banknotes. I'd stamp every one of the things that came through my hands for a year or two after that. Nowadays I walk into a Tesco in Slovakia and buy something upstairs with a €10 note, getting a fiver back plus some coins. Unbeknownst to me, the five-euro note has a small tear on one corner. Take that note downstairs in the same Tesco, right afterwards, and try to pay for something and they'll refuse to take it. Sorry, you'll have to go to the bank ---and show ID--- to get the bloody thing replaced. Useless fucks. So, my thought for this little bit of guerrilla marketing: Get a *small* rubberstamp made reading "bitcoin.org". Get some blue ink and dilute it down to something approaching the background of the €5 note. Stamp in an area where the mark won't be obtrusive, and not near the major security features. Make piles of them. Plenty will pass with no scrutiny at merchants, and at the end of the day you can always get a banked friend to take the pile you got tired of to his/her bank and ask for replacements, complaining that they've been collecting in the shop till. |
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Am I the only one who sees the attack on CLC as (an illegal) DOS?
At a minimum, alt chains are a playground/proving ground for new features that may (or may not) be worthwhile for inclusion in Bitcoin proper. Regardless of any monetary value in those chains, they provide the community with the opportunity to experiment and try out new ideas. Attacking and destroying something just because you don't like it and you can is wrong.
DOS attacks are against the law (criminal and civil in the US). We can't sit around and let people get away with DOS'ing new chains just because they're new. I hope those responsible start getting prosecuted.
Half right, half interesting. Heart in the right place and all that. But seriously, any would-be cryptocurrency that can't survive a DOS attack by a few interested parties can be strangled in the cradle for all I care. If it can't survive that, it can't possibly survive the real world. Oh, and fuck the so-called "law". With all due respect, you're way behind the curve here if you think that existing money/data/comm "law" has anything to do with what's being built. |
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I'm selling 4x ASUS M4A88T-V EVO/USB3 motherboards. €70 each. Payment accepted via bank transfer to US or Eurozone bank, or BTC equivalent at time of sale. Worldwide shipping extra, at cost, via Slovenská pošta's 1st-class parcel service (pricing here: http://cennik.posta.sk/en#), including insurance for sale value or value of your choice. DHL or FedEx shipping also available. Local pick-up in Bratislava free. All were purchased from a Czech retailer in May or June 2011. All come with all original packaging and accessories, and are in fine working condition. |
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I'm selling 24x Sapphire Radeon HD 5830 Xtreme cards. €75 each. Payment accepted via bank transfer to US or Eurozone bank, or BTC equivalent at time of sale. Worldwide shipping extra, at cost, via Slovenská pošta's 1st-class parcel service (pricing here: http://cennik.posta.sk/en#), including insurance for sale value or value of your choice. DHL or FedEx shipping also available. Local pick-up in Bratislava free. All cards were purchased from a wholesaler in Slovakia between June and July 2011. All come with original BIOS, all original packaging and accessories, and are in fine working condition. |
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