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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 07, 2014, 10:20:59 PM
We may not be to welcome here by this community, but we just wanted to stop by to say that you should not blame DCM for Bob's actions. We have nothing against DCM, and believe they are doing a terrific job, and are far along only 4 days into existence. Kreative has been very professional in the way he handled BobSurplus, so that is why we believe in this DCM team. Just wanted to stop by, and make a statement on behalf of the team that he attacked. Our IPO ends in 3 days, and we're very excited for our launch as well. We are confident that HarmonyCoin will see the success that DCM had, and that both of our coins will have long-term future.

As a dev on the DCM team, I appreciate your remarks. I can only say that we are all sorry for the way the situation escalated without there being any real reason for this to happen. I will admit I was upset about your ANN but that was primarily because of the SRHSoulja situation but I tried to remain civil, calm and rational. I wish everybody involved would have kept their calm but that was obviously not the case.

Be that as it may, I want to apologize in the name of our team for what happened and thank you for your calm handling of the situation. I wish you best of luck with your coin; the market will ultimately determine who has the better coin & strategy; one coin's gain does not have to be another coin's loss.
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 07, 2014, 06:57:01 PM
+1

I would want to buy heaps if the funds are still there. please post the public btc address to attract more investors.

And I would buy heaps more myself.....

OK, I've managed to get in touch with some of the guys on the team. Here's our preliminary response:

1) We will not be releasing public wallet addresses for each member. The reasoning behind this is that our wallets contain other funds which really are noone's business. You can consider the information provided below as our first "semi-official" response as to the project's financial situation. To compare the situation to the business world: when a company gives you a financial statement, they also don't let you look at their bank account but provide a summary. Please understand that we are trying to be transparent here without having to reveal personal financial information.

2) So, this is the state of our finances right now (from personal communication with 5 out of 6 devs):

a) Background: each of us received 22.26 BTC from the IPO to be held in trust for meaningful, coin-development related services. We have agreed that each of us is entitled to 2 BTC for their personal use as a payment/reward/salary for the time we have sunk into getting this coin launched and the further development of the coin. This may not be the answer you're looking for but we spent many days & nights with little sleep getting everything into place (coin development, website launch, drafting of supporting documents & statements, exchange negotiations, getting stratum up and running, etc) and will be spending much more time over the coming weeks & months to advance the stated goals of the coin. It all adds up to a lot of time and we feel that 2BTC/person is a reasonable (if not low) compensation for this; we all have families to support and have to eat as well. Having said this, our ultimate compensation will be a rising coin-price when we deliver on our stated goals. Realize that when we bought into the IPO, we did so using our own funds. As such it is in our personal interest to get the coin price to rise substantially over the coming weeks and months. As far as I know, everybody who bought into the IPO is still holding their coins.

b) Detailed statements:
i) KreativeKrypto: still holding around 18BTC from the IPO. He spent about 2 BTC for vendor acquisition support materials, marketing materials, etc.
ii) SeriousCoins: still holding around 19BTC from the IPO. He spent about 1 BTC renting hash power to secure the network for the post-IPO period
iii) Wallenstein (myself): still holding around 17 BTC from the IPO. I recouped some (very) minor costs I had advanced before the launch (domain names, hosting, HTML layouts, etc) and this morning moved 3BTC to Bittrex for buy support when I saw the price was approaching IPO-level.
iv) AHumanBeingX: still holds around 19BTC from the IPO. He spent about 1BTC getting the blockchain explorer and other network related stuff up and running and also rented some hash power to point towards the multipool.
v) Aszu: haven't been able to reach him yet, so I don't know but I am 99.999% certain that his IPO funds are also still in place and ready to be applied to the project.
vi) BobSurplus: told me he also still has his BTC from the IPO.

Bottom line: we are still in it for the long haul. DCM is not a scam coin and as far as I know, noone has run off with the IPO money. Our goal is to use the IPO money responsibly and develop a coin which can stand the test of time.

As you are all aware, the last 2 days have been rough; we are working on a coordinated response to leave these troubled times behind us and move the coin (and it's price) into thoroughly positive territory. You can expect several announcements next week which will detail that we are regrouping and making progress. Please grant those of us with families the weekend to recoup from what has been a very busy and stressful period.

We appreciate the faith and trust our investors have put into us and will do our best to make it worth your while; both from a financial as well as a community point of view.
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 07, 2014, 05:59:59 PM
Any chance of using 19 BTC to force us on mintpal?  We're still not on the voting list, but if we're added before Monday and 19 BTC is used, it would put us at the top.
You can't FORCE yourself onto mintpal. You can buy votes but there is no guarantee that they'll add us. Spending almost 1/6th of the IPO proceeds to something that ultimately we have no control over, seems like a bad deal to me. It's better to grow the coin organically and get the community involved in the voting list. This at least shows community involvement and a long-term mindset, which are the foundations to a strong coin and will eventually get Mintpas's notice.

Also, if Bobsurplus is taking the funds and will not deliver on vendors or whomever, will you be taking him to court?
I can't speak for the project as a whole, but I think the answer to this is "no" for 2 reasons:
1) No contracts were signed, we started this entire coin based on trust.
2) I don't think spending IPO money on lawyers is a good idea; that tends to get expensive really fast.
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 07, 2014, 05:19:26 PM
I'm still against an Anon function.  Serves a coin focused on Merchant adoption no good.  Anyway, when you use any crypto to purchase goods online to have shipped to you, all your information is acquired, so I don't see the point.  Anon is for drug deals, prostitution, and other shady blackmarket deals.  Not our coin. 

I see better uses of our development funds.  PERIOD!
+1. We are a merchant coin. The technical foundation of Bitcoin/blockchain already provides more anonymity than your bank or credit card ever will.
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BitcoinPlus (XBC) / MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE / BIT-ADOPTION! on: June 07, 2014, 05:05:15 PM
Anon is god, understand it :

For example insurance companies will look into what you bought...
They see a paragliding set, a bear-slaughter equipment bought with BTC all from 1 wallet- imagine what happens- you get a call and have to pay more fees, 'cause they know your dangerous lifestyle now better.

There was a thread with 1000 examples, maybe I find it again.

Please find that thread, because right now your example doesn't apply to 99% of the population.
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 07, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Pretty disappointing to have to be linked to the fucking HMY thread to learn that one of DCM's members has been kicked from the team. Why wasn't there mention of that development here?


Team leader has a lot of explaining to do...
-tb-

OK guys, let me try to answer some of the concerns and allegations here (I'm part of the DCM team, check the ANN):

1) As for our supposed silence: please realize that it's a weekend and that most of have wives, children, etc. We can not monitor this tread 24/7.
2) DCM is not a scam. We started this venture as a serious coin development project and as far I am concerned, that still holds.
3) The situation w.r.t the very similar (copied?) initial Harmony announcement escalated beyond my wildest imagination. I can only say that I'm not proud (to say the least) of the unprofessional manner in which it was conducted. I understand that passions can run high, but there should be minimum standard of civility which unfortunately was not the case here.
4) As for the current coin price: either some big investors who bought into the IPO sold their shares or it's just a general 'weak hand' syndrome. The market does what it does and it's our job to move forward and rebuild confidence.

I'm sorry I can not say more right now, I need to touch base with KreativeKrypto (project leader) and the other devs. I'm sure we will release an official statement as soon as we can coordinate our views on the situation.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BitcoinPlus (XBC) / MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE / BIT-ADOPTION! on: June 07, 2014, 10:05:03 AM
I mean a low volume coin like xbc might want to be anon eventually if we get it to it's potential value... lol like in 5 years if bitcoins are worth 5,000 then xbc could be worth a heck of a lot more, for now I just want to see a stable growth and trust built back up so we can get back to what it was and continue on from there Wink
Why do you want it to be anon? If XBC (or any coin for that matter) is worth a lot and you buy a USD 100K BMW with it, what good does anon do you? Your car is still registered to your name, so there's no doubt about the fact that it's yours. Even if you register it to your wife/girlfriend/aunt/whatever, the tax authorities can come to her and ask her where the money is from. I don't know about the US, but in many European countries, if you live in a million dollar house, drive a very expensive car, etc, but don't have an official income to match the expenses required for your lifestyle, the tax authorities will eventually inquire how you're paying for it and where the money came from.

I think anon is overrated because as soon as you buy a tangible real good (car, house, etc) with your anon funds, you're on record anyhow. And if you want to buy a bag of weed in a state/country where that is illegal, you might as well just pay cash. Sell a share of XBC, convert to bitcoin and withdraw from a bitcoin ATM (they'll be coming soon) and you have your anonymity.
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BitcoinPlus (XBC) / MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE / BIT-ADOPTION! on: June 07, 2014, 08:57:02 AM

From the page you linked to:

Quote
They have come up with a solution that is not open source, and they are not willing to share it with the rest of the coins, and teach how to implement it.
No thank you then. I won't store my money on non-open source.
 
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 07, 2014, 08:54:08 AM
We are still looking for a community member to run and edit our Reddit site in a professional manner. Please let me know if this is something that interests you via PM and I will do a brief interview. I did not get any responses when I posted this before so I will be adding a 1,000 DCM bounty for the person selected to mod and CSS the reddit into a thing of beauty, thank you for taking the time to apply for this.

And I will add another 500 DCM bounty to whomever Kreativekrypto picks.  

Ty Merk you are a huge help to the community here!


Ok I said I wouldn't do too many teasers but...I spoke to a certain owner of a certain exchange you were all working to get us on...it would appear that as long as our source code looks free of (original asiacoin type 40 billion hidden premines) that we may have a nice announcement to make in the near future, my fingers are crossed too Smiley

EDIT: I had one of our design developers put buttons for vendors and merchants on the OP (we have multiple vendors now and we needed them asap) please know if anyone designs better that the logo bounty is still totally in effect!

Thanks Kreative!  If you have a taker, just PM me their wallet ID and I will send the coins to them.  And that's great news about potentially being added to another exchange!  Also my 400 DCM match to the winner of the logo bounty contest still stands as well.  PM me if you decide on a winner and I will take care of that too. 

Are you talking about logo or infographic here? Because I have a guy I know on the infographic job.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BitcoinPlus (XBC) / MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE / BIT-ADOPTION! on: June 07, 2014, 01:05:31 AM
Any Forecast of what will be the Price of XBC when it reach the 1st TOP 5 Ranks on the Voting List at MintPal?
No, not really. XBC has been under attack from dumpers (bots?) trying to drive the price down so I'm very wary with price predictions. I can however tell you that we have a number of initiatives in the works and that we hope that that will take XBC to a higher valuation. We're executing on our plans; this is the best we can do to combat the low price. As for when this will happen or what the price will be, your guess is as good (probably even better) than mine.
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 07, 2014, 12:56:34 AM
all the fuss about poloniex is worried people or investors ... who see the price already drop from where they bought ...

poloniex will add DCM in time ... i KNOW that pusoni or whatever his name is really DECENT person ... look at issues happen to poloniex he always fix and people like him ...

most of price drop was people who ride waves ... got on DCM then sold to get in VRC or whatever is hot now

DCM already done what anothers coins do in MONTHS ... and its already been couple of days
I agree, from what I can tell Busoni is a good guy; I never said or implied otherwise.

Thank you for noticing that we've been active and getting our first results out the door, it's appreciated.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BitcoinPlus (XBC) / MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE / BIT-ADOPTION! on: June 06, 2014, 11:55:10 PM
hardcore voter here,10-15 daily lol.

by the way, whatever happens at Mintpal, I will hold them until cryptoscene is really really biiig..
I havent seen a coin that wasn't pumpDumped when it reached mintpal. know Im sayin?
Thank you for your hardcore voting. We appreciate it. We just need to keep plugging away and the train will start moving again.
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 06, 2014, 11:40:17 PM
busoni has, in the past, mentioned certain "standards" for coins to be listed on his exchange. I've seen him ask about the innovation a coin presents, and I also recall that as one of the fields in the request form. This is certainly an admirable quality, but I have to question its application given the hyped, pump and dump clone coins regularly added to his exchange. Perhaps he's sour over DCM's IPO success, with the epic failure of the Poloniex backed MIL IPO adding salt to the wound?
I don't want to restart a new "bash another coin thread" (far from it) and have nothing against MIL, but personally I have also wondered why MIL was chosen for an IPO when DCM was on the table. I guess we'll never know but I do know that we sent a very solid and detailed proposal to Poloniex.

I don't think anyone at Poloniex is sour over DCM's successful IPO, I think they just want to ensure that future IPOs are received positively and sell out. Unsuccessful IPOs hurt the entire altcoin market so it's good that they're taking steps to ensure that future IPOs meet certain minimum standards.

The problem with asking for innovation is that what does a new (for example) algorithm ensure? IMHO nothing. You sometimes hear people say "xxx is a good coin because it's X11/POS/whatever" To me that's like saying USD is a good currency because it's printed on good paper. Yes, those are nice things to have but in the end that (I'm pretty sure) those things don't give a coin value. What gives a coin value is real-world usability. Anything else is IMHO just a cloud of smoke.
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 06, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
he thinks its an IPO...

This explains quite a bit now, thank you guys for doing some digging for us. I'll contact Poloniex again and let them know we are way past the IPO stage, I'm not sure why they think otherwise.

I think you try to made a fool of us, im pretty sure that such a exchane exactly know what is DCM and when IPO was over,

I think that Poloniex dont want add this coin for some reason and DEV exactly know which reason it is,
and they try to hide it,
 it's my personal opinion

Yes, you've finally discovered our cunning plan: we have already set sail towards a remote island and plan on living comfortably off the IPO money for the rest of our lives and have 3 meals of steak, champagne and chocolate cake every day. In our free time we will build gigantic robots to conquer the world once we get tired of steak, champagne and chocolate cake.  Tongue

For the humor-impaired: Of course this is NOT the case.

As someone on the team: no, there is no real reason that I or anybody else on the team knows of which would prevent us from getting listed on Poloniex.

really smart answer from DEV
I expected some serious answer, but ok im not DEV you are the one,

What I'm trying to tell you is that noone on our team knows why Poloniex won't list us (IF that is really the case). Stop looking for conspiracies where there aren't any.
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 06, 2014, 10:20:34 PM
he thinks its an IPO...

This explains quite a bit now, thank you guys for doing some digging for us. I'll contact Poloniex again and let them know we are way past the IPO stage, I'm not sure why they think otherwise.

I think you try to made a fool of us, im pretty sure that such a exchane exactly know what is DCM and when IPO was over,

I think that Poloniex dont want add this coin for some reason and DEV exactly know which reason it is,
and they try to hide it,
 it's my personal opinion

Yes, you've finally discovered our cunning plan: we have already set sail towards a remote island and plan on living comfortably off the IPO money for the rest of our lives and have 3 meals of steak, champagne and chocolate cake every day. In our free time we will build gigantic robots to conquer the world once we get tired of steak, champagne and chocolate cake.  Tongue

For the humor-impaired: Of course this is NOT the case.

As someone on the team: no, there is no real reason that I or anybody else on the team knows of which would prevent us from getting listed on Poloniex.
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 06, 2014, 10:13:03 PM
im not good at photoshop ... but i give it a shot



Nice job, maybe try making the font a solid white so it stands out better against the dark background.
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 06, 2014, 09:54:28 PM
So i asked the Poloniex dev to review the DCM request this is what he said:

"yep and did you read our requirement on ICD? https://poloniex.com/icdrequirements"

and

"all ICD will need to meet those requirements at all times to be added here"

These requirements are for new IPOs.
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce // MULTIPOOL LIVE Wallet Released 100% POS on: June 06, 2014, 08:00:46 PM
Hello again,


One of our graphic designers was going to make us a logo for merchants who are early adopters in our vendor program (basically pre multi-vendor site launch) however, before I give him this task I wanted to see if maybe the community would like to participate in this endeavor instead! So if you have the ability to create a professional looking "Digital Commerce Accepted Here" logo for our upcoming merchants show us what you can do Smiley I'll throw in a 300 400 DCM bounty for this just for some more incentive, and to grow healthy community activity to further the success of DCM!



Here are some links for our logo's the winner(s) will be selected within 24 hours of this post, unless no one participates then we will create it internally. (Personally, I'd love to see a supporters logo on a vendor site though!)

https://github.com/digitalcommerce/dcom/blob/master/src/qt/res/images/wallet.png

https://github.com/digitalcommerce/dcom/blob/master/src/qt/res/images/splash.png





-Kreativekrypto

Hello Digital Commerce community and friends, this logo contest is very important to the announcements we are making over the next two days PLEASE if you cannot design the logo then tell your co-workers, friends, family who may be able to do this to jump in! If they are new to DCM have them download a wallet off our site and earn their chance at the bounty Smiley ( I upped it to 400 DCM now!)

Keep retweeting and tweeting about #DCM on twitter and send people to our facebook and website, like someone above posted it takes a whole community to be successful. No matter how many doors I personally knock on, or media I contact this is a giant group effort to get DCM into the spotlight.

Regarding Poloniex, I was unable to get in touch with Tristan last night, I did however speak in irc with one of his staff who unfortunately couldn't give me a reason why we have not been selected yet. I'll keep at it for us though.


In other great news we hit Coinmarketcap today folks!!!! Lets work our way to top ten and beyond Smiley




I'll match his 400 DCM bounty!  So 800 DCM for the logo bounty.

I contacted an acquaintance who has done something like this for me before and he'll do it. Probably done before the end of the weekend.
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 06, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
so i bought in on the ipo, usual spike and then settling down a bit, all good, I'm interested to know what sets DCM apart in terms of trying to get it adopted by merchants, as most coins if not all state this as a goal with little progress.

When do you expect the multi pool to start supporting the price, is this happening already?

Also I'm aware that many of the dev team are also on the dev team for xbc, are these coins linked in any way?  if not what priorities do the devs have towards this coin?

many thanks.
I believe the multi pool has already had it's first payout and purchase of DCM; I think it was posted a few pages back.

As for dev priorities: 4 out of 6 dev are exclusive to DCM, so their focus is exclusively on DCM. Serious and myself have supporting roles (which we do take very seriously) and for my role there is some overlap in my activities.

Bottom line: myself and Serious are fully committed to both coins; we will do whatever we can to advance both coins market positioning and to provide the tools needed for both coins to reach success.

Hopefully this answers your questions to your satisfaction.
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce*MULTIPOOL*100% POS [Investor/Merchant Focused!!] on: June 06, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Why the hell the price is crashing.  Angry
Panic sells. My advice is to hold, especially if you bought @ IPO price.

Note: I am a dev for DigitalCommerce, so take this into account when considering my opinion.
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