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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: April 09, 2016, 09:22:33 AM
Disney is Looking for a Blockchain Intern
‪#‎Blockchain‬ enthusiasm continues to grow from the likes of large companies and banks. However, not all of the interested parties are financial institutions and some are integrating the technology for other means. Now, Disney is on the hunt to hire a software intern that understands distributed ledger protocols.

https://news.bitcoin.com/disney-is-looking-for-a-blockchain-intern/

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The business could start its own token currency used at theme parks, the protocol could monitor company data, or a reward system could be created.



its going to get really interesting around here finally



MICKEY: Did you see this?!! I will have my own real Disney Coin soon.  

MINNIE: You already are a real Disney Coin!  

MICKEY: But one can't really use it in a real theme park.

MINNIE:  Theme parks are fake worlds.

MICKEY: Disney world is a fake world, Yet one need real money to enter it.

MINNIE: Yes, this one looks better, lets post it with a new image.



82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: April 08, 2016, 11:49:59 AM
Disney is Looking for a Blockchain Intern
‪#‎Blockchain‬ enthusiasm continues to grow from the likes of large companies and banks. However, not all of the interested parties are financial institutions and some are integrating the technology for other means. Now, Disney is on the hunt to hire a software intern that understands distributed ledger protocols.

https://news.bitcoin.com/disney-is-looking-for-a-blockchain-intern/

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The business could start its own token currency used at theme parks, the protocol could monitor company data, or a reward system could be created.



its going to get really interesting around here finally



MICKEY: Did you see this?!! I will have my own real Disney Coin soon.  

MINNIE: You already are a real Disney Coin!  

MICKEY: But one can't really use it in a real theme park.

MINNIE:  Theme parks are fake worlds.

MICKEY: Disney world is Imaginary world, Yet one need real money to enter it.

MINNIE: You mean fiat money? It's a cheap fake! In fact it is the cheapest fake commodity ever created by human civilization.










MICKEY: I start to think that Value have something to do with loyalty.

MINNIE:...And stupidity.

MICKEY: Stupidity often have a lot to do with loyalty.



83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: April 08, 2016, 11:24:59 AM
Disney is Looking for a Blockchain Intern
‪#‎Blockchain‬ enthusiasm continues to grow from the likes of large companies and banks. However, not all of the interested parties are financial institutions and some are integrating the technology for other means. Now, Disney is on the hunt to hire a software intern that understands distributed ledger protocols.

https://news.bitcoin.com/disney-is-looking-for-a-blockchain-intern/

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The business could start its own token currency used at theme parks, the protocol could monitor company data, or a reward system could be created.



its going to get really interesting around here finally



MICKEY: Did you see this?!! I will have my own real Disney Coin soon.  

MINNIE: You already are a real Disney Coin!  

MICKEY: But one can't really use it in a real theme park.

MINNIE:  Theme parks are fake worlds.

MICKEY: Disney world is Imaginary world, Yet one need real money to enter it.

MINNIE: You mean fiat money? It's a cheap fake! In fact it is the cheapest fake commodity ever created by human civilization.





84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: April 03, 2016, 08:33:09 AM
Ok, here is a solution that I think everyone will find agreeable. As per presale terms, Ohad holds a 3% founder share which he may use as he sees fit. 3% of 42M is 1.26M which are or will anyway end up being part of the money supply. In addition, Ohad has expressed his determination to take full responsibility for the loss.

So here is what we can do: Ohad will take the 500k from the founder share and destroy it, reducing the founder share to 726k and the maximum future supply to 41.5M. From that point, the short term situation becomes exactly the same as if Ohad had decided to sell 500k of his holdings, as he is entitled to, and ended up doing a fat finger while doing so. In addition, the max supply has shrinked by 500k regardless of how many coins are effectively sold, which benefits every long term investor.

Now, you may be asking: won't the fact of taking from Ohad's stash risk reducing his amount of skin in the game and therefore affect his motivation for the project?Well in other circumstances it probably would, but remember that in that particular case the vast majority of the stolen money was picked up by Dor who is Ohad's friend. No good friend would pick your lost wallet and refuse to return it and Dor sure seems like a nice and honest guy, so I'm confident he'll push for Ohad to accept the funds back. Now as we have seen, Ohad is also conflicted by the idea that accepting the funds back would be unfair to Dor. Dor's intervention and willingness to return the funds pretty much saved the day, so Ohad owes him a bunch and will probably want to thank him for that. In the end, it's really something that only Ohad and Dor can solve together, and if I dare say, that's really none of our business.
This seems to be a good solution.
I think there is one more thing to consider here. Agoras coins are like shares in the future Agora platform. Now if I invest my dollars (or btc) to get the share, and some have invested their time working to create the value to  the share (as options in the regular scheme), having free-of-charge (gifted) shares floating in the market reduce the value of the initial share. A gift of an asset (token) that is traded in the market is always on the expense of all asset holders

I think that some sort of cooperation with  Dor's project can be interesting and useful and maybe profitable to both communities of coin holders but it have nothing to do with the stolen coin and these have to be taken out of the equation as of now. Whoever got the stolen coins can prove they came from that address and can be compensated by Ohad with btc or new Agora in the pre dump value .  I can see a good reasoning behind giving a little bonus for choosing new-Agora over btc  since for the project well being it is much better that the btc will stay in the hands of the developers of tau.
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: March 31, 2016, 05:03:59 PM
Is Coca-Cola next?

Disney is Looking for a Blockchain Intern
‪#‎Blockchain‬ enthusiasm continues to grow from the likes of large companies and banks. However, not all of the interested parties are financial institutions and some are integrating the technology for other means. Now, Disney is on the hunt to hire a software intern that understands distributed ledger protocols.

https://news.bitcoin.com/disney-is-looking-for-a-blockchain-intern/

its going to get really interesting around here finally
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 31, 2016, 05:03:13 PM
Disney is Looking for a Blockchain Intern
‪#‎Blockchain‬ enthusiasm continues to grow from the likes of large companies and banks. However, not all of the interested parties are financial institutions and some are integrating the technology for other means. Now, Disney is on the hunt to hire a software intern that understands distributed ledger protocols.

https://news.bitcoin.com/disney-is-looking-for-a-blockchain-intern/

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The business could start its own token currency used at theme parks, the protocol could monitor company data, or a reward system could be created.

its going to get really interesting around here finally
 
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: March 31, 2016, 01:00:06 AM
Hey all! I'm the lucky buyer of the vast majority of the 500k. I just caught it on my AGRS Bittrex tab and immediately sent a happy message to Ohad. Smiley

03/30/2016 23:47:00   03/14/2016 17:25:40   Limit Buy   0.00011581   14860.70417639   14860.70417639   0.00011580   -1.72532069
03/30/2016 23:46:59   03/17/2016 20:05:02   Limit Buy   0.00020140   14858.49056604   14858.49056604   0.00020139   -2.99998125

03/30/2016 11:46:37 PM   
SELL
0.00000212   406759.55205231   0.86233025 [this one is incomplete.]

I'm an early investor and a friend of Ohad's. I've been holding my coins for well over a year now, and I can assure you these new coins in my possession aren't going to leave my hands any time soon. So this is a nice gift for me, and you can rest assured that once Ohad solves this by issuing the new token, the market will be unaffected.

This is all un-provable, of course. I suppose I can take a video of me taking out the rest of the bid at 212 once trading resumes while a few witnesses are watching. Let me know if ya'll care for me to do that.

Cheers


As an early investor you should realize that it is not fair to all other investor that you will get new tokens 1:1 for all the stolen ones even if you have purchased them legally . You should only get for the stolen tokens the number of new tokens that match the market price before the stolen token hit the market.
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: March 31, 2016, 12:51:23 AM
Imho all transactions with the stolen tokens should be voided.
Bittrex is definitely able to provide a detailed trade history.
It's like some thief stole bunch of rare collectors watches, hastily selling them for cheap and the buyer says: "I can assure these new watches in my possession aren't going to leave my hands any time soon. So this is a nice gift for me, and you can rest assured that the collectors market will be unaffected."


Actually since we are talking about tokens that are going to be replaced, and not a stolen product with a market value all that need to be done is give the legal owner of the stolen coins (those who got it on bitrex)  only the numbers of new tokens which match the market price before the scam.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: March 27, 2016, 01:32:50 PM
For all of you who may be invested in Ethereum , you should pay  close attention to what is said in this lecture while keep in mind that Etherume is Turing complete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utggm7cuGbo&feature=youtu.be


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Let us assume that we have a contract and I wish to ask – what will happen.
 Do I need to live through this contract to see what happens with it, or, can I know in advance, what will be it's outcomes.

Godel proved that if a language is rich enough to describe the arithmetics, it is complete, and can prove all the correct statements, and it can also prove all the incorrect statements, as we have just shown. If we have a language that is consistent, and can not prove statements that are incorrect, then it can not prove all statements, it is incomplete, can describe only part of the realities, not all of them.
And so, the world of mathematics, logics and philosophy where in crisis and did not know what to do in order not to be self contradictive. In the 70's till mid 80's came Martin Löf. He formalized a system for the foundations of mathematics. A logical system, that can not be called logics, because it is different. This system is consistent. I can not contradict myself with this system, and therefore, when I have a proof, I can rely on it. If I have a proof for a statement, it means that is it correct, because we can not prove incorrect statements in a consistent language.

And so, Martin Löf presented logics that is today viewed as the new basis for mathematics. It went that far as to be called the new foundation of mathematics. With this logic we can determine if a statement is true or false, including by a computer. Of course, it took time since the 80's to understand what it is all about, and until they verified Martin Löf is indeed correct. Slowly, programming languages were developed to use this trick. For example, we can mention Agda, or Idris.

In these languages we can write code, and ask what the code does, and even receive a mathematically proven answer with all the steps that led to the result. I can rely on that proof and know that it is impossible to prove an incorrect statement.
On the other hand, in Turing complete languages, which are most of the languages that are used today for programming, people do not know the concept of proof on code because it is simply not possible. In order to know if a code works, it is needed to run it. to live through it and see if it works.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: March 27, 2016, 01:04:25 PM
while my coins try to challenge your monetary concepts and play hide and seek with the corporation's monster's apatite for profit, this one, Tauchain  is going to achieve all that I will fail to do and much much more.
I think that only the few very smart of you on this forum may be able to comprehend this coming revolution after listening to the Tauchain developer's lecture posted below, but even if you cant yet you should follow closely.
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utggm7cuGbo&feature=youtu.be


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Let us assume that we have a contract and I wish to ask – what will happen.
 Do I need to live through this contract to see what happens with it, or, can I know in advance, what will be it's outcomes.

 Godel proved that if a language is rich enough to describe the arithmetics, it is complete, and can prove all the correct statements, and it can also prove all the incorrect statements, as we have just shown. If we have a language that is consistent, and can not prove statements that are incorrect, then it can not prove all statements, it is incomplete, can describe only part of the realities, not all of them.
And so, the world of mathematics, logics and philosophy where in crisis and did not know what to do in order not to be self contradictive. In the 70's till mid 80's came Martin Löf. He formalized a system for the foundations of mathematics. A logical system, that can not be called logics, because it is different. This system is consistent. I can not contradict myself with this system, and therefore, when I have a proof, I can rely on it. If I have a proof for a statement, it means that is it correct, because we can not prove incorrect statements in a consistent language.

And so, Martin Löf presented logics that is today viewed as the new basis for mathematics. It went that far as to be called the new foundation of mathematics. With this logic we can determine if a statement is true or false, including by a computer. Of course, it took time since the 80's to understand what it is all about, and until they verified Martin Löf is indeed correct. Slowly, programming languages were developed to use this trick. For example, we can mention Agda, or Idris.

In these languages we can write code, and ask what the code does, and even receive a mathematically proven answer with all the steps that led to the result. I can rely on that proof and know that it is impossible to prove an incorrect statement.

On the other hand, in Turing complete languages, which are most of the languages that are used today for programming, people do not know the concept of proof on code because it is simply not possible. In order to know if a code works, it is needed to run it. to live through it and see if it works.

   
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 26, 2016, 01:14:02 PM



MINNIE: OMG, Can we just go back to AI (Animal Intelligence)?





MICKEY: What is  AI (Animal Intelligence)?  

MINNIE:  An intelligence which is derived from contradicting individual choices, but appears as a consensus.

MICKEY: Like when I agree with you on what you say?  

MINNIE: No, that you would be considered human intelligence.  





MICKEY: How is it different?  

MINNIE: As  Animals we don't have to agree on anything in order to cooperate.
 We act while observing what other do at the same time and then react to that  







MICKEY: Oh her..., Microsoft just eliminated her because she became a monster.

MINNIE: If her creators only left her on her own for a while longer she would have learned to be nice to Jews.

MICKEY: How can you tell?

MINNIE: Since I am alive and was worth saving for some reason.

MICKEY: Who? What? who saved you from what?





MICKEY: You a Jew?!!! Walt would have never made you a Jew.

MINNIE: That is true, but I have evolved as AI.


92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 26, 2016, 12:42:32 PM



MINNIE: OMG, Can we just go back to AI (Animal Intelligence)?





MICKEY: What is  AI (Animal Intelligence)?  

MINNIE:  An intelligence which is derived from contradicting individual choices, but appears as a consensus.

MICKEY: Like when I agree with you on what you say?  

MINNIE: No, that you would be considered human intelligence.  





MICKEY: How is it different? 

MINNIE: As  Animals we don't have to agree on anything in order to cooperate.
 We act while observing what other do at the same time and then react to that 







MICKEY: Oh her, they just eliminated her because she became a monster.

MINNIE: If her creators only left her on her own a while longer she would have learned to be nice to Jews.

MICKEY: How can you tell?

MINNIE: since I am alive and was worth saving for some reason.

MICKEY: Who? What? who saved you from what?


93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 26, 2016, 10:54:07 AM



MINNIE: OMG, Can we just go back to AI (Animal Intelligence)?





MICKEY: What is  AI (Animal Intelligence)?  

MINNIE:  An intelligence which is derived from contradicting individual choices, but appears as a consensus.

MICKEY: Like when I agree with you on what you say?  

MINNIE: No, that you would be considered human intelligence.  

94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 21, 2016, 11:28:26 PM



MICKEY: You meant to say NI as part of NIPI right?  

MINNIE: No I was thinking of NI as part of LI (Learning Intelligence) while we were  talking about IP (intellectual property)  

MICKEY: But then you posted PI!

MINNIE: What is PI?  

MICKEY: Penguin Intelligence  







MICKEY: Also Satoshi is a NIPI (NIP Intelligence)

MINNIE: What's a NIP?

MICKEY: Japanese.  

MINNIE: You mean: "A derogatory term used for people of Japanese descent"  

MICKEY: Yes, though in plural its also means some body parts.

MINNIE: OMG, Can we just go back to AI (Animal Intelligence)?

95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 21, 2016, 10:46:41 PM




MICKEY: So Walt is the alien in Disneyland, not us.

MINNIE: And we might be the legal owners of our own IP (Intellectual Property).

MICKEY: That indeed makes a lot of sense.

MINNIE: Unless we are only AI and not an NI (Native Intelligence)  

MICKEY: We are NI as part of NILI








MICKEY: You meant to say NI as part of NIPI right?  

MINNIE: No I was thinking of NI as part of LI (Learning Intelligence) while we were  talking about IP (intellectual property)  

MICKEY: But then you posted PI!

MINNIE: What is PI?  

MICKEY: Penguin Intelligence  

96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 19, 2016, 10:39:35 PM



MICKEY: By the way, I am blue not red, So I am from the blue planet.

MINNIE: We better not use colors in the context of origin. 

MICKEY: Only B&W?

MINNIE: This might even be worse.

MICKEY: So a mouse is better then? 

MINNIE: Yes I think it would be better, people are much more sensitive to colors than to animals. 

MICKEY: So being red, yellow or blue is offensive but being a mouse a cat or a dog is fine?! 


97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 19, 2016, 02:58:36 PM



MICKEY: Let's just go through that again.

MINNIE: Go ahead, I'm with you...  

MICKEY: Identity is logical and have something to do with time.

MINNIE: True .    

MICKEY: Identity can be proved thus claimed as IP.  

MINNIE: True for us.

MICKEY: There is a direct connection between proof and ownership....
but I can't yet see the truth in that .


MINNIE: You dont?!!!!. Are you from Mars?!  

MICKEY: I think that I am a Native American.

MINNIE: Even with all these spelling mistakes?  







MICKEY: How do you say 'I own you" in Cherokee?

MINNIE: "The idea of ownership as possession in relationship is alien to the Cherokee language."

MICKEY: And so are the white people... they are the aliens, not red and not from that land.

MINNIE: Well, as Native Americans we might be from Mars after all.

MICKEY: And Walt is the alien in Disneyland, not us.

MINNIE: So we might be the legal owners of our own IP (Intellectual Property).

MICKEY: That indeed makes a lot of sense.

MINNIE: Unless we are only AI and not an NI (Native Intelligence)  

MICKEY: We are NI as part of NILI



98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 19, 2016, 10:59:34 AM



MICKEY: Let's just go through that again.

MINNIE: Go ahead, I'm with you...  

MICKEY: Identity is logical and have something to do with time.

MINNIE: True .    

MICKEY: Identity can be proved thus claimed as IP.  

MINNIE: True for us.

MICKEY: There is a direct connection between proof and ownership....
but I can't yet see the truth in that .


MINNIE: You dont?!!!!. Are you from Mars?!  

MICKEY: I think that I am a Native American.

MINNIE: Even with all these spelling mistakes?  


99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 15, 2016, 12:06:36 PM



MICKEY: That all was very confusing, however it is very logical.






MICKEY: This remind me of the the "Love-cake"

MINNIE: Love-cake?  

MICKEY: Yes, when I get to cut the cake and you get to choose, and I love you and want to cut a bigger piece for you to choose, but since you love me too I know that you may choose the smaller piece, thus I will cut it right in the middle.  

MINNIE: You know it is originally the  "I don't care about you, and you don't care about - cake".  

MICKEY: Wow, how come it is the same cake?  






MICKEY: I see, when I buy the cake it is the same cake.

MINNIE: You also cut the cake in the same way.

MICKEY: So how would you know that I do it out of love?  

MINNIE: Since I know you.  






MICKEY: It is all about identity then, even logic....

MINNIE: Identity is the history of logic applied to reality.

MICKEY: Identity make sense then.

MINNIE: And can be proved.  

MICKEY: Thus claimed as IP.  




MINNIE: IP is the new ID 

MICKEY: Is ID a matter of ownership too?

100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: March 15, 2016, 12:01:49 PM



MICKEY: That all was very confusing, however it is very logical.






MICKEY: This remind me of the the "Love-cake"

MINNIE: Love-cake?  

MICKEY: Yes, when I get to cut the cake and you get to choose, and I love you and want to cut a bigger piece for you to choose, but since you love me too I know that you may choose the smaller piece, thus I will cut it right in the middle.  

MINNIE: You know it is originally the  "I don't care about you, and you don't care about - cake".  

MICKEY: Wow, how come it is the same cake?  






MICKEY: I see, when I buy the cake it is the same cake.

MINNIE: You also cut the cake in the same way.

MICKEY: So how would you know that I do it out of love?  

MINNIE: Since I know you.  






MICKEY: It is all about identity then, even logic....

MINNIE: Identity is the history of logic applied to reality.

MICKEY: Identity make sense then.

MINNIE: And can be proved.  

MICKEY: Thus claimed as IP.  

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