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321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BARAK] Occupy Banks Coins (Israel) on: February 16, 2015, 10:57:28 AM
Why the hell are you launching all these coins? 
It's getting pretty ridiculous.
It is rather for haven sake.
 And because the future of currency and freedom is based on the ease of making currency and the highway for versatility.
Also because so few understand these new currency not only as new Technologies but as very different monetary models, each utilizing different strength of different industry or community . If I was only talking about it not making it, I would still be talking to myself mostly. This way some is getting attention and is being understood. and I get to learn much more by actualy making it. So it all good, keep up your engagement and never underestimate this which you may consider ridicules at first. Smiley
322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BARAK] Occupy Banks Coins (Israel) on: February 15, 2015, 09:37:20 AM
What happened to Coca-Cola coin and Disney Coin? Tongue

dev is too busy managing multiple coins at the same time Huh

Indeed. since all my developments are monetary models developments, It is about using the beautiful tools so many talented developers are creating and apply them to our social and economic structure.

Since the scope of such change is much to great for most to participate in at that early stage, or even to simply comprehend it, I came to a conclusion that  the approach of "build it and they will come" is the best. But having no "corn field" at my disposal other then my time and conviction, I started by making the coins, explaining them and working on creating the real substance that will give it its real value. This last part of value means producing a product, goods or services, that have a market and is for sell using these coins.

Since all these products need to be legal and need a market, it cant be created over night, and is not made to be pumped and dumped.
My art coins like the Coca-Cola Coin and the Disney coins are created to illustrate the idea as a whole while eventually built up an art related value. The Occupy Banks Coins are coins made to serve as self-credit for activists, and the community participation is essential in order to built that value. Since I am well familiar and been involve with the local activists community as well as the local bitcoin community. I may have the  tools and connection to make that a live and functioning coin. and I intend to try and do that .

But as I said,  there are opportunities opened up to take my brand's currency ideas to the next level , So yes Im busy trying to get that materializing. Only Once I will have the capacity to move this BARAK Coin forward in the local community, it will go on the air. I estimate that it can happened with in the next few months. Since there is very low risk involved in such social centered coin, not big law issues have to be resolved and no big money need to be invested.

And though brand currency should in the long run solve all the banking system abusive practices, it will be very useful to built  strong civil powers to create a real viable sustainable currency market.
323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BARAK] Occupy Banks Coins (Israel) on: February 13, 2015, 12:02:16 PM
is this associated with occupy.net ?

Not yet, But is is a great idea to offer that as a model in there. thanks.
I need to work out a few more details of operating it. keeping in mind that the aim is to provide activist money which they can use in the grocery and to pay rent. There are a few ways to go about it. The platform of occupy.net is calling for a more global approach, while the one I was thinking of was more localized.
324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BARAK] Occupy Banks Coins (Israel) on: February 13, 2015, 07:11:12 AM
occupy?  thats the speciality of israel occupying like Palestinian territories.

When currency is tied to nationality thus territory,  occupying become nasty . When currency will become the choice of the individual, occupation will be nothing but a transient state describing the moment, while homes and land will be a natural right of every living being.
325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BARAK] Occupy Banks Coins (Israel) on: February 13, 2015, 07:04:11 AM
What happened to Coca-Cola coin and Disney Coin? Tongue

Both are very much alive and well, Actually following the show in NYC I was asked to join and help develop the scheme for a platform that will serve to unify coupons gift-cards and such, into a brand currency. It is not meant to be decentralized platform or open source. How ever it is shaping to be very close to the first stage which will enable self credit in a form of a currency the way I demonstrated with my coins. It is a real link to make the future real Coca-coal coin.
 My Coins are going to get their artistic value eventually. Real value is a thing that developed as one demonstrate the ability to produce something to back the coin. Pump and damp can not sustain itself without substance. I concentrate on creating the substance that I can produce.

The Occupy coin was created to back the substance created by the activity of  raising awareness to banking system methods of abuse and fight them. It is made to be used as self credit for activists. It is still just an idea in development and the coins will not become live unless the project is able to take off.
326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: February 12, 2015, 08:57:13 PM
So... from what I saw you were telling people in the Zennet thread, there was a decentralized cloud computing project merging with a decentralized local market place app, or something similar.

Then I come here to look at it, open a whitepaper pdf, and it looks suspiciously like you guys are actually building what amounts to a giant artifical intelligence which is going to eat the internet.



Evil plotting racoon approves.

Unfortunately I can't really spare $100 - but I wish you luck.



Any structure, that of a building or that of a social organisation  was created  or is  running by an engineered program. Engineering being the set of rules applied to matter or living systems is that which is laid beneath anything whatsoever.
When we coin the term engineered we often assume a predetermined design executed  and controlled by the force of the designer engineer.. Engineering  often defined as the application of  knowledge in order to create something. But that definition apply only in the case of an external centralized fixed engineered scheme. The other type,The type that rules in most of nature's behavior and all forms of life is decentralized, and it is rarely  categorized as engineered unless assuming an external force, namely God.  When we come to asses the benefit of a decentralized system we are looking at the operation itself and not at how it was created.  An engineered system can be ruled internally by a small and powerful minority or by a large majority, but only a P2P network can be such that the power to change the design is equally divided between all participant at any given moment,  and the rules of the design can be affected and can evolve as a result of a direct feedback interaction between individuals and their environment Tau- Chain to my understanding is the next step in that direction..not only AI but A-Life, which on its most fundamental level is a decentralized P2P engineered scheme, set to create the most complex network of interaction limited by self destruction and navigated by the forces of both.



This is the next set of comments which I will alter in a way that will create a conflict for the forum rules. Im posting it here as a comment so you will have the original one to compare before I will treat it beyond recondition . so this is the record for "before" . (by the way I already changed it once to enter a new comment onto the first page)

and this is how it looks now https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950309.msg10412813#msg10412813
327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: February 12, 2015, 08:47:33 PM
The permission is hereby given to literally everyone Smiley

Gotta love ohad's attitude!   Cool

The first move Has just been made, upon my comment Ohad made a new rule, A rule that is not comply with the moderators rules, thus very soon the things that he may allow to do on his thread are going to be against the rules of the moderators. Now, if anything that we do here is about demonstrating the content and essence of his platform and coin, thus it may be the most important part of  his thread. So we got a big conflict about to strike and since on the bitcoin forum the moderators have the upper hand and they can delete it all.

If this was on the blockchain, all the rules would be preset and my comments will be deleted even if Ohad wanted them to stay. On the blockchain he would have  to launch a 51% attack on the system and would have to have enough power to do so. (The thing we call democracy is in actual a 51% attack on our freedom as individuals) . But if this forum was set on the Tau-Chain a totally different thing would shape up: NO voting required (and most unwanted trolling will vanish). Once I will brake the rule Ohad will be able to accept it. if no one else oppose, it will change the blockchain to allow for comments categorized as "for delete" by the system  to stay on Ohads thread. He will in practice customized his thread. Now if my comment will offend Someone else that person will have the power to try and change it so the comment will be deleted.... but  let me actualy demonstrate a possible conflict here on another comment, since this is where it start to get really interesting and far more complex.

nice approach.
i must only mention that no coin here.
True, no coins yet, but soon in my plot I will present the point in which coins become very useful for the "game"of making rules to achieve maximum efficiency. And I believe that as you progress with the development of your platform, the perfect use of a coin will emerge. The stick and the carrot almost always work, unless you are a stick laughing at the carrot, but most of us are not HMC Smiley 
328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: February 12, 2015, 07:52:42 PM
The permission is hereby given to literally everyone Smiley

Gotta love ohad's attitude!   Cool

The first move Has just been made, upon my comment Ohad made a new rule, A rule that is not comply with the moderators rules, thus very soon the things that he  may allow to do on his thread are going to be against the rules of the moderators. Now, if anything that we do here is about demonstrating the content and essence of his platform and coin, thus it may be the most important part of  his thread. So we got a big conflict about to strike and since on the bitcoin forum the moderators have the upper hand, they can delete it all.

If this was on the blockchain, all the rules would be preset and my comments will be deleted even if Ohad wanted them to stay. On the blockchain to change a rule, he would have  to launch a 51% attack on the system and would have to have enough power to do so. (The thing we call democracy is in actual a 51% attack on our freedom as individuals) . But if this forum was set on the Tau-Chain a totally different thing would shape up: NO voting required (and most unwanted trolling will vanish). Once I will brake the rule Ohad will be able to accept it. if no one else oppose, it will change the blockchain to allow for comments categorized as "for delete" by the system  to stay on Ohads thread. He will in practice customized his thread. Now if my comment will offend Someone else that person will have the power to try and change it so the comment will be deleted.... but  let me actualy demonstrate a possible conflict here on another comment, since this is where it start to get really interesting and far more complex.
329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: February 12, 2015, 06:33:12 PM
OK, so your in the cash collection phase. And even changed your original plans without refunding the money you already collected.

I didn't collect that much so far Smiley
When I find out a new thing (namely, tauchain) that makes the classic blockchain obsolete, I think the correct thing is to move to the new tech. ofc this was done with a lot of thinking and getting advice.



What's the advantage and disadvantage of Tau-chain comparing with the classic blockchain, what about the blockchain of NXT?

The most truthful and covering answer would be: on tau's chain, rules and behavior can be changed over time by the users.
But this answer is obviously not enough.

Let me state a very particular use case: Over tau one could give a formal specification of a program to be written. Like: a program that only verifies if a given program meets some requirements. Of course, it is inherently much easier to verify a program than to write it. Now, whoever supplies a code that fulfills the requirements, will be able to supply a logical proof for that (it is possible with functional programming languages), and the network will automatically reward them the coins offered for the implementation.
Moreover: next time someone will look for a program (or function) answering those specifications, the answer will already be there, and code will be able to be reused.

It sounds  a little bit like Ethereum.

I just came back from a meeting with Ohad (we happened to live an hour apart and met on Mastercoin hakaton) and got his permission to use this thread freely to demonstrate right on it my take on Tau-chain which will make it easier to understand some of the Tau-chain future use. it will take a bit of time and may be a bit annoying, and may not be all that great, but I think that it will help, so I apologies  ahead of time.  Smiley
330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: February 12, 2015, 05:54:04 AM
Any structure, that of a building or that of a social organisation  was created  or is  running by an engineered program. Engineering being the set of rules applied to matter or living systems is that which is laid beneath anything whatsoever.
When we coin the term engineered we often assume a predetermined design executed  and controlled by the force of the designer engineer.. Engineering  often defined as the application of  knowledge in order to create something. But that definition apply only in the case of an external centralized fixed engineered scheme. The other type,The type that rules in most of nature's behavior and all forms of life is decentralized, and it is rarely  categorized as engineered unless assuming an external force, namely God.  When we come to asses the benefit of a decentralized system we are looking at the operation itself and not at how it was created.  An engineered system can be ruled internally by a small and powerful minority or by a large majority, but only a P2P network can be such that the power to change the design is equally divided between all participant at any given moment,  and the rules of the design can be affected and can evolve as a result of a direct feedback interaction between individuals and their environment Tau- Chain to my understanding is the next step in that direction..not only AI but A-Life, which on its most fundamental level is a decentralized P2P engineered scheme, set to create the most complex network of interaction limited by self destruction and navigated by the forces of both.

331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: February 10, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
If you want to see where we are heading and be the firsts to profit from it, you should check, follow and share this thread of Tau-Chain   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950309.0;topicseen The developer of this unlike myself, are the most talented knowledgeable blockchain code writers. (and far more than that).

My Coca-Cola coin was made to achieve corporate interest and deeper understanding of self-credit to push forward a sustainable possible solution to central banks and bank credit.
The Tau-Chain is the seed of the future that will follow if we will manage to get through the next "2008" by having enough functioning channels of alternative trading communication like currencies platforms created since 2008.
332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: February 10, 2015, 09:39:43 AM
This comment I dedicate to HunderMinerCrafter and Ohad:

The Blockchain is the first step in engineering a successful working decentralized system. A system that can increase precision as a product of security, based on network of users.

If you think in quantum term or probability terms, precision increased by more instances applied. In accounting, precision applied to security.
A system can be secured by a central force, or by a decentralized force. but a centralized force is very prone to a systematic failure, The kind we experience in the banking system. 
(The things we consider as AI is centralized while the things we try to create as synthetic life are indeed decentralized like our unaware consciousness.)

The one major problem with the blockchain is the 51% attack. A truly decentralized system have to be engineered  to deal with such problem.
Life is such a system.
The Tau-chain try to come closer to it. but I think that it is yet to resolve the one primary mechanism of transforming "TRUE" to "FALSE". and I will give you the Bob and Alice example to clarify my point:

Say that Bob and Alice had two children together and on custodian rights dispute Bob refuse to take a genetic test that aims to prove Alice's claim that the children are not Bob's. Assuming test can not be forced on the claimants, what would be the judge decision?

Now instead of a biased human judge we want an objective engineered system to decide.
Like most of you here, the system will conclude that since Bob don't want to take the test He is not sure that at least one of the children is biologically his. The judge however was not able to draw that conclusion. The judge facing the two in curt realized that Bob is the Mather's Barbara nick name, while Alice is The father's Alexander's nick name.

The point is that a system, any system that is not based on arbitrary axiom like mathematics, is pron to "General Consent".
And the challenge to overcome is finding the mechanism of transforming the binary equivalent of FALSE to the binary equivalent of TRUE. In other words, a system that can change polarization. In nature it is a gradual processes of a network reaching a tipping point.

In accounting it will create the same effect to prevent a 51% attack. But for complex systems aiming at content to be able to do this it have to be engineered in a way that both TRUE and FALSE satisfy some ratio and are interchangeable constantly.

Obviously I have no clue how to code such system since Im not a coder, and I know very little about computers, but in term of content, I can tell that the system have to always assume a number for 'general consent" level while calculating all individual disagreement into the final product. thus enoght single individual can always shift that "general consent" to a new figure.
On the way to achieve that constant "general consent" flexible number, we may need to practice change of polarization at a non adjustable  tipping point, that of 51%.
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: February 10, 2015, 07:43:34 AM

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Any structure, that of a building or that of a social organisation  was created  or is  running by an engineered program. Engineering being the set of rules applied to matter or living systems is that which is laid beneath anything whatsoever.
When we coin the term engineered we often assume a predetermined design executed  and controlled by the force of the designer engineer.. Engineering  often defined as the application of  knowledge in order to create something. But that definition apply only in the case of an external centralized fixed engineered scheme. The other type,The type that rules in most of nature's behavior and all forms of life is decentralized, and it is rarely  categorized as engineered unless assuming an external force, namely God.  When we come to asses the benefit of a decentralized system we are looking at the operation itself and not at how it was created.  An engineered system can be ruled internally by a small and powerful minority or by a large majority, but only a P2P network can be such that the power to change the design is equally divided between all participant at any given moment,  and the rules of the design can be affected and can evolve as a result of a direct feedback interaction between individuals and their environment Tau- Chain to my understanding is the next step in that direction..not only AI but A-Life, which on its most fundamental level is a decentralized P2P engineered scheme, set to create the most complex network of interaction limited by self destruction and navigated by the forces of both.
334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: February 07, 2015, 02:08:43 PM
Hey NILIcoin, do you know why HunterMinerCrafter (seemingly) left the forum?

I fear something bad happened to him.

We think that it is money, but currency is a community , transactions is communication, and choosing a character to be, is freedom.
I dont know why is he not communicating on the forum, but  I know that he, as a living being is alive and doing. check out this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736447.msg10317240#msg10317240 he is working with the developer, Ohad, on this which is a ground braking project. check it out!
Well that's good. I just contacted Ohad to see if I can get into contact with HunterMinerCrafter.
Do you know if he has an alt account on here by any chance?

Not that I know of. Connecting with him I guess,
 is his call.
335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: February 07, 2015, 09:16:42 AM
Hey NILIcoin, do you know why HunterMinerCrafter (seemingly) left the forum?

I fear something bad happened to him.

We think that it is money, but currency is a community , transactions is communication, and choosing a character to be, is freedom.
I dont know why is he not communicating on the forum, but  I know that he, as a living being is alive and doing. check out this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736447.msg10317240#msg10317240 he is working with the developer, Ohad, on this which is a ground braking project. check it out!
336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: February 04, 2015, 09:03:43 AM
I just really love this thread and the fact that it is a REAL thing. The coins are REAL, you are REAL, not just players in a game, even if you are a made up characters like HunterMinerCrafter. It is still REAL. It is the reality in which we create virtual beings like ourselves or our coins and these virtual beings crate our reality, have power over our life.

The forum may run by some rules but it will have no life if we do not like these rules and leave it. So I am still here, doing exactly what I want to do here, while considering the things which will be interesting for me and for some of you.

I did consider moving on to another platform, but this is the perfect one for the things that I do. Any thing that I do here is adding value to my coins. and creating value to my coins is as real as real can get. And as such it is the most interesting art project for me to be involved in.
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337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: February 01, 2015, 10:08:48 AM
For the time being the Coca-Coal Coin and The Disney Coin has served it purpose which was to fully execute my vision of Independent Multi-Currency economy. Unfortunately the last leg of making the physical product and putting up the show did not bring the value I was hoping to put into the coins. At the moment I can not put more resources into future develop the interest in these coins Thus I will not offer more coins for sell on the open market of the Counterwallet.  Anyone who may be interested in buying coins can always reach me directly.

Meanwhile I will be working on a few other projects that are related in some way to the work I have done here and are being financed by interested parties.

Everything that I put here is free for anyone to use, include the coins model.  Marking it as my IP was part of making a point. Eventually if anything that I have done here will be used it will do only good to all.

Carry on the good work. Every coin that is being made is adding to the chance of us all getting through the next, much bigger than the 2008, shake, :-)
338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: January 27, 2015, 11:34:37 AM

Thank you all for coming to the Coca-Cola Coin art show

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339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Disney Coin [IDISNEY] on: January 27, 2015, 11:02:59 AM


MICKEY: Minnie!!!! WTF!  These are COCA-COLA colors! We need to promote Disney coin. I told you to dress up in blue

MINNIE: But these are MY colors. This is how Walt made me.

MICKEY: Obviously you dont understand anything, Coca-Cola will sue us, they used "your" colors first.


MINNIE: So are you going to sue Twitter for using your colors?!



Twitter Coin
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MICKEY: What are we celebrating this time Minnie?.

MINNIE: Freedom! No C&D letter after all that we did.

MICKEY: Who are the guests?.

MINNIE: Its actualy a small dinner party. I invited Coca-Cola, Disney and Twitter too.

340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BARAK] occupy banks coins (Israel) on: January 25, 2015, 02:24:22 PM
dev, what time the official launch, set the countdown and update detailed information, thank you!

The time will be set soon, now that the lawsuit is shaping up. and election time in Israel is coinciding... will be very interesting..... (will announce the time within a week)
 
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