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81  Economy / Economics / Re: Better Money: Gold, Fiat, Or Bitcoin? on: June 07, 2024, 09:30:36 AM
money is used as a transaction tool, while gold and bitcoin are used as investment tools. For transaction tools I prefer fiat money, while for investment I will choose gold and bitcoin. I won't talk about who is the best between the two because investing in gold and bitcoin both have advantages and disadvantages. investing in bitcoin is very volatile, although you can make big profits in a short time, you can also lose big in a short time. While investing in gold is safer because the price of gold is more stable, you cannot get big profits like investing in Bitcoin.

Yes, all 3 have pros and cons and have different use cases and above all, all 3 are necessary for us. So what is the use of comparing and speaking ill of them if we are still dependent on them?

No matter how bad fiat is, can we stop depending on it and stop using it ? No , we would not exist without fiat as it remains the main currency in our economy.
Gold is a stable asset that does not offer high returns like bitcoin, but when we want to hedge our assets, we want to diversify our asset portfolio to minimize risk . If we don't use gold, what options do we have to diversify our asset portfolio?
Ultimately , bitcoin is a volatile asset and we can take advantage of that to grow our wealth quickly .

I own all 3 and feel satisfied so I don't like to compare and badmouth any type of property.
82  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin gradually turning away from its purpose? on: June 07, 2024, 09:09:22 AM
Sadly, yes.

Most people choose to use Bitcoin as a commodity instead of as a currency.
Are you using bitcoin as an investment or are you just using it as a currency? And what's wrong with people using bitcoin as an investment when they are getting many benefits from it and their lives are getting better and better because of bitcoin? Additionally , even if you are using bitcoin as an investment, if there is a store that accepts bitcoin payments, will anyone prohibit you from using bitcoin for payment? So how can it be said that bitcoin is gradually moving away from its purpose of becoming a currency?



A lot people choose to hold their coins in centralized exchange or company (ETF) instead of in non custodial wallet.

Most people don't care with their privacy, they willing to submit their KYC to centralized sites and some people even dare to publicizing if they're own Bitcoin.

This is true, but I don't think it's the reason why bitcoin strayed from its original purpose of being a currency . Bitcoin is still bitcoin, it's just that the way people use bitcoin is not in the direction of turning bitcoin into currency .
83  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN will be $350,000 by August 25, 2024 - Robert Kiyosaki on: June 07, 2024, 08:29:48 AM
I saw this on X
https://x.com/theRealKiyosaki/status/1798476195232973066?t=Yj4SD273MFzq68WrQVdQ0A&s=35

BITCOIN will be $350,000 by August 25, 2024 is not a lie. It’s a prediction. It’s speculation, it’s an opinion, but it’s not a lie. It’s suckers bait, but it’s not a lie becuase any prediction about the future is not a lie. I want $350,000 BITCOIN to be a fact, and I want it to be true…. but it is only a prediction. I am confident Bitcoin will hit $350,000 sometime in 2024 but for it’s only a target, a dream, and a wish.  I keep buying more Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana, because quite certain their prices will continue to rise. Why am I so confident?  Is it because I am certain about BC, Ethereum, and Solana?  My answer is “No.” What I am confident of is the incompetence of our leaders, President Biden, Treasury Secretary Yellin and Fed Chair Powell. Those three are the 3-Stooges in real life and I am certain, I am very confident about their incompetence.  Take care. Buy more Gold, Silver, Bitcoin, Solana, and Ethereum.  Protect your self from the 3- Stooges.

People that are experienced will know that he also meant that bitcoin may not get to $350000 in August or before the time but this can mislead people that are new. What we are expecting are all-time-high and six digits. I do not think bitcoin will make it up to $350000 on the next 5 years or more. I accept that bitcoin price will continue to increase than decrease in long period of time.
$350,000 already in August for bitcoin? Robert Kiyosaki prematurely inflates the likely price of btc. This can really give newbies false hopes, which means their subsequent disappointment in bitcoin. This is the danger of such forecasts, which should be voiced with caution, because the fan base of such talkers as Robert Kiyosaki is huge. Among whom there will certainly be followers who believe in these inflated forecasts.

Bitcoin will reach $350k one day, but not in a couple of months.

But the question is why did he deliberately make these predictions even though he knew it couldn't happen and would harm his fans? Many people think this is his way of attracting more attention to himself but that won't happen because everyone will soon find out his prediction is bullshit. He will even lose a large number of fans if he continuously makes statements that are inaccurate and harmful to them . I really cannot understand what his real purpose is in making unrealistic and impossible predictions.

But more importantly, why do we care what he says when we all know that what he says won't happen  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.
84  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trump accepts Lightning Network for donation of his campaign in Bitcoin on: June 07, 2024, 08:11:45 AM
Just don't forget about this tweet though,



https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192?lang=en

In short he calls Bitcoin as a scam, so why the sudden change of stance here?
Obviously, it's election time, gals and guys, others might argue that this is not a political statement, but still coming from a President and then suddenly make a U-turn statement to suddenly accepts LN for his campaign donation? You have to think twice American voters.

It is true that the election is approaching and he is using every means to get people's votes, and whether he really supports cryptocurrency or not is still a question mark. But what's wrong with someone changing their opinion after a while, after taking the time to learn about it? Even many investors on this forum, who are bitcoin maximalists were skeptical and distrustful of bitcoin in the early days of hearing about it. I myself was the one who refused to invest in bitcoin when I first heard about it, simply because at that time we had not learned about it and did not know what it was, so it was normal for us not to be interested. Or even the CEO of blackrock or Michael J. Saylor used to despise bitcoin but now they are the investors holding the majority of bitcoin.

If yesterday he claimed to hate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, but today he suddenly said he was very interested in them, it would be a blatant lie. But it's been 5 years, and that time is not short.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/13/blackrock-ceo-larry-fink-calls-bitcoin-an-index-of-money-laundering.html
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/07/07/blackrock-ceo-larry-finks-turnabout-on-bitcoin-elicits-cheers-skepticism-from-crypto-insiders/

85  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 07, 2024, 01:58:01 AM
Expects more triggering stats from the Bavarians from next season. Vincent Kompany is Bayern Munich new headcoach and he's endowed with outstanding players that's capable of winning matches without his guidance. These players already know what to do and they will simply exert the winning energy towards their game. Bayern Munich new coach, Vincent Kompany is not some random coach but he learned football under the regime and management of one of football geniuses. Pep Guardiola have proven to be the very best and have encounter quite important goals for themselves.

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Bayern Munich star left-back Alphonso Davies has been linked to each of those clubs as his future with the club appears extremely uncertain.

However, new manager Vincent Kompany is pushing the Bavarians to extend the Canadian’s deal per Sky Sport journalists Florian Plettenberg and Kerry Hau (as captured by @iMiaSanMia):
https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2024/6/5/24171898/bayern-munich-kompany-extend-alphonso-davies-real-madrid-manchester-city-liverpool-arsenal-chelsea

There is no assurance that he will follow Guardiola's lead at Bayern Munich when he was still there. I'm not even banking on it, knowing Burnley's dismal performance under him and it makes me dubious with bayern's performance under him. Bayern may have higher quality than Burnley, but nothing changes here. Kompany is trying to determine which players must be sold. Let's see who is gonna be sold by bayern munich soon.

I've heard he's been trying to send a contract extension to Alphonso Davies. Let's wait what kind of experiment prepared by him at this moment.

To be honest, nobody is probably expecting them to win the Bundesliga title next season. Because the expectation is truly not much from the new coach. We will not only have to keep an eye on which player he brings in. We will also have to keep an eye on how he intends to use those players. I am almost certain that he will not be able to use all the players properly. If Bayern Munich is actually able to win the Bundesliga title in the next season, either all the other teams that are playing have to perform really badly or Bayern Munich will be very lucky.

All I want to say is that if he was such a good coach, she wouldn’t have finished in the relegation zone with Burnley. I understand that Burnley just got promoted. But avoiding the relegation zone was definitely possible.
86  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 07, 2024, 01:22:44 AM


When is Neymar going to be fit again to play?

I heard that he might even miss almost the first half of the next season because of his knee injury. The way he is going about it, I think he actually might not be able to play in the World Cup. Mind you, during the next 2026 World Cup, he is going to be only 34 years old. I guess he is just earning too much money by sitting on his ass to actually care about his career anymore. He has not done anything for his team in the Saudi Pro League and still has been able to win the Saudi title and also the King Cup of Champions trophy. When you are getting paid like him and also winning silverware by absolutely doing nothing, you are not going to want to move, would you? There was a time when I said that Neymar was a prince who was never able to wear his crown. But now I will say that Neymar is a prince who never actually wanted to wear his crown.
87  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: June 07, 2024, 01:07:21 AM
Maybe he is doing this because he still wants to play as the main striker of Portugal in the next World Cup. But that is still a long way away and who knows, Portugal might find a replacement for him who will be able to provide better results!

Portugal have Rafael Leao, Diego Jota, Joao Felix. So there is a very good chance that Cristiano Ronaldo is going to be definitely replaceable in the next World Cup.
Ronaldo has confirmed that he wants to retire in 2027 with Al Nassr, its a sign that he still wants to play in the 2026 World Cup, because that is the only trophy he has never won.

Portugal still needs Ronaldo as a role model and a leader for its juniors in this Euro, also with his good stamina Im sure he can still play for 90 minutes.
Or he will play the role as Portugal super sub, even though he is no longer young - Ronaldo speed and instincts cannot be underestimated.


Some time ago his wife said that he would play for a maximum of two more years.... Today I was reading abrout the greatest scorers in the history of football (official FIFA count) and Cristiano Ronaldo would have to score another 150 goals to reach the 1,000 mark goals in official games... will he try to reach this mark? he's already 39 years old... it's a little difficult, but not impossible.

We all know that Cristiano Ronaldo has set unbelievable targets for himself and he has also said that he is going to play in the next 2026 World Cup. But that is heavily going to depend on how he performs in the 2024 euro. If he is able to perform well in this competition with Portugal, there is a chance that he will get himself ready to play in the 2026 World Cup.

By the way, he has actually played pretty well while Portugal qualified for the Euro 2024. So there is always a chance that he is actually going to play in the World Cup 2026. But the thing we have to remember is that he will be 41 years old at that time Cheesy. So he will definitely not be able to perform as he is doing even now. 41 year old Cristiano Ronaldo can never be compared with the prime Cristiano Ronaldo. But Cristiano Ronaldo definitely still dreams about winning the World Cup with Portugal.
88  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 06, 2024, 07:31:39 PM
Ramos definitely looked like a great player, I think it wouldn't be really that bad to just not even buy any new players and just play the same PSG team without Mbappe, they would still win the league with this squad if you ask me. But, they won't do that because they have money, and when you have money that means we are not going to end up seeing someone who will do further, we are not talking about anything more.

We should consider the fact that we are going to make it work one way or another, and that means that we are going to see something change. We should probably consider how that type of situation could change peoples perspective, because if they have money and not spend, that would not be ideal situation for PSG, and fans would be mad.

If you talk about fan, PSG is losing a lot of followers right now. I am talking about the social media. Remember when Lionel Messi joined PSG, they were getting followers like crazy. I remember that I was actually trying to see how many followers they had gained. I would refresh the page once and it would go up like a couple of thousands. When Lionel Messi left PSG, they had lost almost around 800,000 followers only on Instagram alone.

now that Mbappé is also leaving PSG, I am not going to be surprised if I refresh the page and account goes down like it went up at the time Lionel Messi joined. It seems to me that at least a majority of PSG fans are actually there for some certain players. It is not like Real Madrid or Barcelona, because in those clubs it does not matter who stays or leaves, the follower count stays about the same. But I guess that is understandable because PSG does not have a history like them. They are only known for farming trophies in the Ligue 1 and not winning the Champions League title.
89  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 06, 2024, 04:43:04 PM
For Roma and Lazio, they have fought well and maybe they can do more later in Serie A so they can compete again with the top teams. It's not easy considering that changes from other teams make them marginalized and this will certainly add more motivation for both of them.

-.-
It does not matter even though it is unable to compete with several clubs in the top 5 but Roma and Lazio can be said to be a successful club and this is all the results we have to recognize because at the beginning of the second season the club is experiencing severe problems.

Like at that time Roma had difficulty in improving performance while still with Jose Mourinho but after the arrival of De Rossi everything changed for the better and on the other hand Lazio the beginning of the season also experienced severe problems in the top 10 such as difficulty in improving their performance but since the middle of the season this Lazio managed to get the 7th position that can provide greater enthusiasm.

People were a little too much hyped for the new coach of Roma.  First of all, I did not understand why they actually fired Mourinho if they were going to downgrade anyway. I am not only saying this just now.  when they had made the decision was very much skeptical about it.  Actually, a lot of people also did not like this idea but when they had seen that De Rossi was able to bring in good results at the start they were actually saying that it was an improvement.  but in the end that improvement did not last very long, did it?  He was able to bring in good results for a very short period of time. I understand why they wanted to bring in De Rossi.  the performance was not very good from Roma, that I agree on.  but if you change something you always look for an improvement,  not a downgrade. And the way they have finished this season,  it definitely looks like a downgrade to me.

but maybe I am just talking a little too much trash and reaching my conclusions a little early.  maybe if they actually gave this coach more time he would be able to bring in better results.
90  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Btc hack from Japani Exchange again or its a fud? on: June 06, 2024, 02:59:07 PM
If this news is legit and the exchange was hacked really that it would have impacted the BTC price. Ive heard that it happened almost three days before and since then we can't see the fluctuations in BTC price that should be expected after this type of incidence.

It can happen some days later when the hackers will manipulate using the stolen BTc. Let's wait and watch but this questions the security of big exchanges.

As you also said , many days have passed and we still have not had any significant correction from bitcoin, which shows that during the bull season , news like this does not make people too scared and people don't care either .

Even banks and government websites can be hacked at any time , so you cannot expect centralized exchanges to be absolutely perfect . You should also not compare and assume that storing on personal wallets is safer than storing on exchanges. That's not wrong, but you need to understand that no hacker will take the time to attack your bitcoin wallet while your assets are very small. Meanwhile , centralized exchanges are always the top target of hackers because they hold a huge amount of money. What matters is whether they will be responsible to their users or whether they will deny responsibility. (I'm just giving reasons why exchanges are more vulnerable to attacks than personal wallets, Im not encouraging or advising anyone to store bitcoins on centralized exchanges.)

And according to the latest news, they are raising capital to buy bitcoin to compensate the victims.



https://www.coindesk.com/business/2024/06/05/crypto-exchange-dmm-bitcoin-to-raise-320m-to-pay-back-hack-victims/
91  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is bitcoin future roles in Finance? on: June 06, 2024, 02:18:55 PM
True, its just that many bitcoin investors are too into bitcoin, thinking that it will eventually replace all currency and banks. I get it, we love bitcoin and such, but its too exaggerated if we treat bitcoin as too much.
Bitcoin was never made to replace fiat. It was only meant to be an option for those who would like to use it. It’s quite unrealistic if we think that bitcoin can remain the only currency in the world when it’s not even the only currency in its industry being crypto. It can be more powerful than most fiat but it can never replace fiat entirely.

Satoshi never mentioned creating bitcoin to replace the current monetary system, but even if he had that intention when he created bitcoin, it would never have happened. Even if we want bitcoin to become popular and recognized worldwide, we have encountered many difficulties, let alone thinking about the scenario where it will replace fiat money or banks. Governments will seek to destroy bitcoin if it is truly created to replace fiat and banks. So let's not be naive and blind when spreading this false information, it is completely harmful to bitcoin and not as good as we think.

Since the bitcoin ETF was approved, bitcoin has become increasingly popular, but if there were a harsher ban instead, what would happen to bitcoin? Don't over exaggerate bitcoin and underestimate the power of government.
92  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Converting altcoin profits into Bitcoin? on: June 06, 2024, 02:05:09 PM
I see some advise to just convert my profits straight into Bitcoin but in doing that I would be buying Bitcoin at the highest prices so don't understand that.
What do you mean highest prices? If you plan on buying during a decline a price then you can time it to swap your coins either from fiat or from another altcoin when the market is down. Or there’s also another option wherein you can convert first your coins into stablecoins after you’ve gotten profit. That way your money is already stored safely and you can easily convert it to bitcoin when needed.

If I take my altcoin profits in the next 3-6 months, Bitcoin is likely going to be at its all time high so dont understand converting to Bitcoin when it is at its all time high.

I would rather take my altcoin profits into usd and then buy Bitcoin once the bull run is over and we enter the next bear market.

I agree , one is that you should move all your altcoins to bitcoin now because the real bull market is yet to come and bitcoin still has a chance to deliver significant profits. Second, you need to wait until the bear season comes , when bitcoin has corrected significantly and that is the right time to buy bitcoin instead of switching to bitcoin when it is at its peak . But it is important that you sell all your altcoins before bear season, otherwise you will have nothing left as many altcoins will become worthless when bear season arrives.

More importantly , investing in altcoins is risky and you need to make sure that you are investing in the right project that can bring you profits in the near future. Otherwise , your plan will fail.

It can be said that you want to get rich quickly through altcoins and after achieving your goal you will return to bitcoin to ensure safety . This is not a new idea but not too many people can do it because of uncontrollable greed.
93  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The difference between gamblers and real Bitcoin investors? on: June 06, 2024, 01:51:16 PM
There may be many differences between a Bitcoin investor and a gambler but I will point out one similarity between a Bitcoin investor and a gambler is that both gamblers and investors are in risky business. An investor can easily refrain from investing if he wants and can invest in the market as per his will but a gambler cannot easily refrain from gambling.
There is definitely a difference between a Bitcoin investor and a gambler. A gambler can lose all his money anytime he gambles but a bitcoin investor never loses his whole money. Because we all know that Bitcoin is volatile, even if the price of Bitcoin goes down, it rises again quickly which we constantly see in the cryptocurrency market.


But why do many people still lose money when investing in bitcoin and even lose it all? When you take profit or someone takes profit, it means someone will buy your high priced bitcoin, and when you win, someone must lose. That's how financial markets work and investing in bitcoin is no exception , so I won't agree with you that no one will lose money investing in bitcoin. Whether or not investing in bitcoin is profitable depends on the mindset of each investor, not bitcoin. In my opinion, the line between gambling and investing is knowledge, if you invest without knowledge then you are just gambling.



The similarity you find between Bitcoin investors and gamblers is that both involve risk. Yes, that's right. But I think gambling involves more risk than investing in Bitcoin. Have you ever seen someone who lost their entire money investing in Bitcoin, but there are many cases where they lost their entire money due to gambling addiction and even sold their house. Investing in Bitcoin for a long period of time can expect profit from it but can never expect profit from gambling as it depends entirely on luck.

Basically, risk always exists around us because no one can predict what will happen to us, not only in investing and gambling are there risks. And to be able to control or avoid risk requires knowledge, knowledge is still the line that makes the difference between investing and gambling, IMO.
94  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season on: June 06, 2024, 01:44:49 AM
before the match started at that time, there were still many people who said that Dortmund could beat Madrid but they didn't realize that every time Madrid was able to reach the final round, the guarantee of victory was on Madrid side and that was all a fact when Madrid rarely lost in the round. final.
and there are even lots of bettors who take big risks betting on Dortmund winning in the hope that everything will be a big surprise but all of that is very impossible or maybe unless the opponent Dortmund faces is not Madrid, maybe Dortmund hopes are still very big.

losing Kroos is one of the sadness felt by most Madrid fans, even though Kroos is not very well known out there but Kroos is one of the players who is recognized for his skills with intelligence which can always make a good contribution to striker players to score and score. even in the Ronaldo era, Kroos admitted that he had very precise skills when providing passes to all attacking players.
I can't imagine how Madrid will look next season without Kroos, who currently has no replacement and even Modric, as an old player, will not be able to replace him.
I wouldn’t blame the many who had some thoughts of Dortmund been able to challenge Real Madrid in the finals especially after seeing their great impressive run to the finals one will be kind of confident of them in the finals. The factor that played out was the way Real Madrid still remained top in the big games especially in final matches, their vast experience, talented squad came to play and got them the title.

Dortmund was the runners-up in the Champions League this season. How are they going to perform in the next season? Any idea about that? You know that they can be very inconsistent sometimes. And then inconsistency from Dortmund can easily be seen in the Bundesliga competition. But in this season, in the Champions League, they have definitely surprised almost all of the people by reaching the finals. Of course, nobody had given them any chance to win the Champions League final. Going up against Real Madrid in the Champions League final is definitely not something any team wishes to happen to themselves. But I have to say they still have performed very well in the Champions League final. They were also very close to scoring in the final as well. But luck was not on their side as the ball hit the goalpost and came back into play.

Anyway, I personally cannot predict what they are going to do in the next season because as I said they are sometimes really inconsistent. And even though they reached the finals of the Champions League this season, I have no idea how they are going to perform in the next Champions League as well.
95  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 06, 2024, 12:52:02 AM
Al Nassr doesn't look like any serious club that's competitive to thrash their top rival in important matches, watching their performance against Al Hilal in the final, and this is really tough. Rather its going to be a lot more better if we watch Ronaldo exit Al Nassr and go to any more promising club next season. Cristiano Ronaldo was superb during his prime and have become one of the promising player to enchanced the stats and performance of Al Nassr this season. His numerous outstanding goals elevated the club to become such a standard team, they've been in close competition.
At Cristiano Ronaldo's current age, you don't expect him to leave his club Al Nassr and join another Saudi Arabian club just because the club failed to win any major trophy in his one and half season with the club. Al Nassr I think can improve and become the best team in the Middle East country if only the club management can  sign players that'll help the club's defense line. They failed to win trophies in the just concluded season not because they weren't scoring many goals that should aid them to win as many trophies as possible but because they had a defense that was conceding too many goals. They faced Al Hilal in five or more times in the just concluded season but couldn't get a win in any of them. I think Cristiano Ronaldo will definitely remain at the club so he can help them fight for trophies come next season.



It is 1 trillion incredible to see a 39 year-old player being the top scorer of a league.

By the way, a lot of people think that there is no competition for him. I would like to let them know that there is Benzema who has just won the Ballon d'Or recently. There is also Neymar, Firmino, and a lot of other big names who are much younger compared to Cristiano Ronaldo. It is actually very sad to say that he has not been able to win anything in this season even though he is the top scorer of the league. At the same time it is actually a little weird and maybe even unfair to see him working so hard and still not being able to win anything but at the same time Neymar not even playing and still being able to win almost everything. Maybe he is built to stay under the shadow of everyone throughout his whole career  Grin.
96  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you pay for car repairs with Bitcoin? Why not :) on: June 05, 2024, 01:19:59 PM
How high the bank fees in your country? Huh

I don't think it could be higher than Bitcoin fees if we're talking about daily usage.

Right now the average Bitcoin fees around $2.5 per transaction, I consider it's really high especially if you live in a country where $2.5 is worth of 4 meals.

But, let's see how it goes, you're also show the Bitcoin address here which make anyone can check it anytime.

Adding bitcoin as a payment method for the store is encouraging as it will help bitcoin become more popular. But I have to agree with you that the OP is somewhat dishonest in saying that bank fees are high and cheaper than bitcoin's transaction fees.

I don't know what country he's from, but in my country, transferring money using a banking app has almost no fees, let alone higher bank fees than bitcoin.

Second, he said that bitcoin payments have received a lot of attention but no transactions have been made yet. It seems like people just find it strange that his store accepts bitcoin payments, but no one wants to use bitcoin to pay. More time is needed to assess the real impact of this.
97  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Australia's first Bitcoin ETF just opened for trading on: June 05, 2024, 12:57:20 PM
This is probably great news for investors wanting to access Bitcoin directly through an ETF.
Yeah great news for such investors, it could also be good for the price of BTC if there is a good amount in inflows, but then not so good news for self custody.

ETFs are not good for self custody, but as you also said, thanks to ETFs, we will have a large amount of money pouring into the market and helping bitcoin prices go higher. Or as Upgrade00 said above, an ETF may not be a wise choice for retail investors like us, but companies and institutions need it to be able to invest in bitcoin. Without ETFs, we would never see large funds like Blackrock investing in bitcoin and there would be no larger inflows into the market.

Personally I just prefer to buy Bitcoin directly though. Maybe there is a benefit in terms of less fees?, but it's not worth it in my mind as you don't hold the key to these coins...
It is not about the fees, some investors do not want to learn how to store their keys safely, so it is understandable if they choose to own BTC through spot etf's. However, the recommended way to store BTC is in your self custody, because you ought to be your own bank.

Besides organizations and companies, what about older people and people who are not tech-savvy but are interested in investing in bitcoin? ETFs solve that because not everyone has the ability or confidence to turn themselves into their own bank.
98  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: June 05, 2024, 12:50:32 AM

You liked Costa vs Strickland fight? I personally dont. There were better fights in the card. In their fights I saw that Strickland mostly threw jabs and front kick (leg jab lol). And only in last round fighters switched on fighting mode. For me it was a boring UD by Strickland. In fact, wtf is with Costa? He used to be a brutal 1 round finisher, pumped beast that attacks from very start. Now his fights are long lasting fights, decision>decision>decision...


Strickland might be a terrible human being but he is definitely a good fighter. His striking game is definitely one of the best. and in this fight, it definitely looked like he was able to win all the rounds. Maybe it was not convincing enough for some. But I think he was definitely able to win all the rounds. By the way, I did not expect anything less from this fight. Strickland actually got hurt on his leg even though it did feel like nothing happened to his leg. But Costa was definitely landing those leg kicks. Strickland was always going forward and putting pressure on his opponent and was also doing really well to counter when his opponent tried to attack him. Even though it was a split decision,  it should have been a unanimous decision.

99  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 03, 2024, 05:47:08 PM
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BBC Report: Bayern Munich have made an approach about signing 29-year-old Portugal
midfielder Bruno Fernandes from Manchester United. (O Jogo - in
Portuguese)
Source: https://www.ojogo.pt/7278101127/bayern-em-conversacoes-por-bruno-fernandes/

It is going to be great for the players and also for Bayern Munich. He is definitely resting his potential by staying at Manchester United. He can get a lot more done and achieve a lot more as well With other clubs. It is absolutely clear that he is going to get much more achievement with Bayern Munich instead of Manchester United. So this is a deal that would be very beneficial for him as well. But Manchester United might not want to sell him for cheap. They are definitely going to ask for a huge amount of money for him. At the same time, the player has also probably not said anything about leaving the club. Manchester United is going to ask for an unbelievable amount of money.

100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 03, 2024, 05:35:59 PM
I think Ten Hag lasted longer at Manchester United. I would also like Pochettino to be the person to manage a team full of success like Manchester United, because Ten Hag does not know the opportunities he has. He can't use it correctly. I think they should be dismissed from that team and move on with a better candidate. I don't understand why Manchester United management is giving him a chance because he can't manage as well as Arteta. Arteta is doing everything for Arsenal and it is understandable that he did not provide continuity, but I think Ten Hag is managing terribly.

He had a great first season better that Mauricio Pochetino's first season. He won the Carabao Cup, Lead Manchester United to the Emirate FA Cup Finals finished third position. His first season saw Marcus Rashford scoring the highest goals he's ever had in his career.
Had 31 games unbeaten run at Old Trafford, he had some more better records

So what has Mauricio Pochetino won in his first season?

Bringing Mauricio Pochetino is like prostitute for complete man to get married too. No! He can never be Manchester United manager in his life more when they wanted him he had agreement with Paris Saint Germany.

This is crazyy argument. Erik Ten Hag already won series of trophies with Ajax, even before joining Manchester United. Comparison between Erik Ten Hag and Mikel Arteta is lame ASF. Erik Ten Hag even won and knocked out Real Madrid in the Champions League Competition before all of you just talk about him without checking facts.

He's won trophies Arteta hasn't even in the Premier League Competition. It took Mikel Arteta some time before his team started playing good football and saw old players leaving too, Erik Ten Hag can do same. All that's needed is the right backing.

Ten Hag was able to win the Eredivisie title.  and you are saying he is somehow better than Arteta because Arteta has not been able to win any English Premier League trophies? 

did you just say that the English Premier League Trophy and the Eredivisie  Trophy are the same?  what a dumb explanation!!  do you even know the difference in competition between these two leagues? Stop glazing Ten Hag so much. What do you think about so many players who have problems with him?  if it was only one player I would have understood.  but why does so many players have problems with him and actually do not want to stay at Manchester United?

Why did he choose Onana over De Gea? Was there any improvement? Why did he spend 95 mil for Antony? I understand that the budget of Manchester United or the money of Manchester United has been thrown into the garbage since a long time ago.  I believe it started with Pogba. It does not give Ten Hag the license to throw more money into the garbage though.  I really want to see Manchester United keep him for one more season.  because it seems like a lot of people still do not understand how much of a disaster he is as the coach of Manchester United.
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