If I understand there won't really be any "new" money coming into bitcoin. The only way I can buy shares is if somebody in the trust is willing to sell. The trust won't be buying new bitcoins like the winklevoss thing.
As always, qualified accredited investors may choose to invest in shares of the BIT directly through the BIT's ongoing private placement at the daily NAV/share1.
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I believe people should listen to this old wisdom from our friend. if you sell now, you sell for good. the warning above is still valid.
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Deloitte jobbar vidare med eit spørsmål om utanlandsk børshandel med bitcoin. Etter mi meining kan det samanliknast med enkelte former for derivathandel og handel med finansielle instrument. Du betaler til dømes ikkje mva dersom du kjøper ein eigrdel i ei gullbarre som ligg i ein bank i Sveits, berre om du flyttar det fysiske gullet til Noreg. Kan det vere mogeleg å sleppe unda mva dersom det ikkje føregår ei overføring av bitcoin som anna enn ein eigardel av ein felles pott som børsen har? Kunden kan sjølvsagt ta ut sin del i ettertid, men det er ein separat transaksjon som eg ikkje har kontroll over.
Kjøper man en gullbarre i Sveits og putter den i en bankboks der så betaler man ikke MVA selv om man tar med seg nøkkelen hjem til Norge. Man burde derfor heller ikke betale MVA av Bitcoin selv om man har nøkkelen i Norge.
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Again, my original point was that the future value of bitcoin is being predicated to a large extent on the 21m cap, a belief based on faith more than reality.
I think it's predicated mostly on the belief that the majority of people (miners in this case) will act rationally. I would say that most miners consider the 21M coin cap to be a defining characteristic of Bitcoin, and probably the most important characteristic that gives the coin value. If you accept that premise, then it is logical to assume that miners will not act irrationally by destroying the value that is their whole incentive for mining in the first place. Good point, well made. But raising the cap would be an indirect consequence of adjusting the halving frequency, so by increasing the cap, you would be extending the [higher] reward period for miners Since we havent reached the point where tx fees outweigh coin reward, do you think that might become an incentive for miners to increase the cap? (bear in mind that it would be a slow process, with no immediate dump of coins on the market.) The miners can try to increase the cap all they want. The regular users will not use their new-cap-software.
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Ah, sorry, I misunderstood.
No problem
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Oh, so you're saying it's because of the dollar. But what do you think that means in terms of bitcoin?
I'm saying it's happening on Kraken because of the weak euro. I don't think it says much about bitcoin. (But higher bitcoin prices in USD on the other exchanges is positive for bitcoin.)
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ooh, $294 gonna fall tonight?
Certainly looks that way. Lots of nice bids piling up on BFX. Shorts closing though, so anything too spectacular is bound to collapse back down, at least temporarily. Long term downtrend breakout on Kraken BTC/EUR 1m. Had to look this up. It's true. QE in the Eurozone might be a driver for rising bitcoin prices. Small exchanges do random things all the time. There is no significance if they break an uptrend or downtrend before any of the real exchanges. Not to say they all wont. But who cares about Kraken? It's not a random thing. The price is lower than on Bitstamp. It still doesn't matter what an exchange that small does. It wouldn't matter if someone dumped down to $10 on Kraken. They mean nothing. It's the USD/Euro exchange rate that makes this happen now. Not that Kraken is a small exchange.
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Long term downtrend breakout on Kraken BTC/EUR 1m. Had to look this up. It's true. QE in the Eurozone might be a driver for rising bitcoin prices. Small exchanges do random things all the time. There is no significance if they break an uptrend or downtrend before any of the real exchanges. Not to say they all wont. But who cares about Kraken? It's not a random thing. The price is lower than on Bitstamp.
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Did they split them first to another address last time or can we assume a single winning bidder? EDIT: thinking about it, would be surprised if the winning bidder wasn't using a multisig address They moved them several times before they paid the winners after the last auction.
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Since USD is going up because of oil, and currencies like CAD and EURO are dropping. From now I'm thinking about exchanging BTC to USD, wait until it drops or until CAD catches up and then change it back. Wat y'all think?
You want to lose value?
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Gold will exist in 20 years, BTC not sure
But what will the value of gold be in 20 years?
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so Tim didnt dollar average his coins?
it is worse than I thought.
Hasn't sold his stash though - and did say it was 'the best deal anyone would get' Is that bad? He also bought some more at $200 some weeks ago.
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I am familiar with this auction. But I am not sure if this event is already over already? And I can tell you that auctions are pretty tricky. After all you can buy something not so cheap when there are strong competition going. So bitcoins obtained that way could be not so cheap...
Last time it was a blind auction. We don't know the winning bid even today. Though I'm thinking Tim Draper probably regrets it a little. Last time he only bought 2k. But the first time...
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What time do auction details get released?
Maybe never.
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when is the auction over?
8 hours and 48 mins from now.
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I have been buying constantly with every paycheck the last 10 months, and made a big buy two weeks ago. And now, I just discovered: I'm almost break even!!!! Nå begynner moroa
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