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81  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holy crap on a cracker! Another spike ($533USD) ! To the mooooon! on: August 07, 2016, 06:48:59 AM
Bitcoin has shown fantastic recovery healthy after this massive drop. In no time we will be back to 600+, but watch out for a massive ETC pump that will extract some BTC too from the market. No one wants to miss the up and coming ETC rise and potential ETH takeover to reach 0.01+
its been a long week now for this drama i'm glad to see that btc went back and slowly getting to 600$ again it is the etc and eth is showing good ride as of now guys if you have spare btc try to invest with both project just predict the perfect timing. good luck

The price could reach $600 in 10 days. The price could be $700 by the end of September. It might be $900 by year end.
82  Economy / Speculation / Re: Five digits on: August 07, 2016, 06:47:03 AM
That's true, one step at a time fellas don't be too excited as we will totally reach that level in due time. That will happen in the future if we will continue to support bitcoin as we are one of the supporters who will make bitcoin a success.

I  think the bitcoin price could rise to $1200 this time next year. By the end of 2017, the price could be $1600.
83  Economy / Speculation / Re: What price the BTC must reach next month for you to sell? on: August 06, 2016, 04:15:25 PM
So...

i think that i will sell my bitcoins only when their price will go to 900$ but price probably won't be that large next week so i will sell it later only

We may see that price at the end of the year but not possible to touch before that and I will only sell my coins when it will touch $1k till then I will prefer to hold.

I thought the price could be $1000 in 2016. But after the hack on Bitfinex, I think $1000 could be in next year.

it would be good to be $1000 for 1 BTC but i dont think it would touch 1000...it may touch 800-900 max....

There is no way the bitcoin price will touch $1000 next months. I even doubt it will be around that level by the end of the year.
84  Economy / Speculation / Re: Be sure, this will drop hard soon... and here is why... on: August 06, 2016, 04:14:15 PM

yes, you are right, yesterday when I saw the price at $516 and I found that t is because of bitfinex hack, then I thought that it will once again rise sooner and so I bought some bitcoins at that price, I was a little worried about my investment also but today when I visited to price i saw that the price is now at$536, that is a very good news for me and I earn a profit even in a bad situation for the bitcoin market

Today, the price is $570. I think there is nothing wrong with the bitcoin itself, just one exchange, so the price will rise again.
yes that is a fact and now the price of bitcoin is raising again, the bad news about the bitfinex really effect the whole market and the prices felldown too much but now the people understand the reality and now they start buying bitcoin again , and hope that the price of bitcoin is going to reach to its previous position very soon.
It was a big amount that was stolen but the overall market is still stable, we have witness a lot of crisis that happens before but here we are, bitcoins is still improving and there is a good future ahead of us, so hold tight fellow investor and strengthen our faith in bitcoin to experience a good future with our profit.

The bitcoin price has recovered about 20% from the recent bottom. The price will rise again to $600.

The price might go above $600 in the next few weeks. Then it will consolidate there for a few more weeks.
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ETH or ETC on: August 06, 2016, 04:13:01 PM
I don't know what to think of this "Ethereum Classic" beside that I don't like it. I'm kinda loyalist, and will stick to Ethereum which is backed by a world-renowned team while Ethereum Classic is made by random people on the Internet Roll Eyes... Having it more profitable than Ethereum won't last long, since a little price change kills everything...

 are you sure ETC is developed by random people on the internet?

They can say whatever they want. From the current information available, the ETC will not be supported.
86  Economy / Speculation / Re: The price drop on: August 06, 2016, 04:11:37 PM
The problem is not the panic selling and the huge dump. The problem is there is no more buying happening anymore before the hack on Bitfinex occurred. I said before that I expected this to be under $600 and stay there until the end of the year. But I expected it to go under $600 around the end of August. So I guess we might see this go up above $600 for a while due to speculations but then go back down and stay there. Many of you will be discouraged by this and that will cause further dumping.

there are buyers, they are just undecided if it's good to buy now or wait for more dumping, i doubt all the 120k coins were already dumped

The Bitfinex hacker shorted the bitcoins before he did the hack. So he has already made a lot of money due to the hack.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Who will be the next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtokens on? on: August 06, 2016, 04:10:09 PM
The next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtoke on will be the ETC lovers. Vitalk and his friends have too many.

When the Vitalik and friends dump the ETC, the ETC price could drop a lot and it might even go to zero.

They have the incentive to do that. A single Ethereum ETC chain will be more valuable than two chains.

I will not be the victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtokens on. I will not buy any ETC in the future.
88  Economy / Speculation / Re: The price drop on: August 05, 2016, 08:50:54 AM
I do not see any price drop at the moment. The price of bitcoin is very stable. It is preparing for the next rise.
because there is no price drop at the moment, in my opinion the price of the bitcoin is going to go up only right now, though anything might happen

I believe the bitcoin will consolidate at the current level for a few more months. After that, it will rise further.

The bitcoin price is consolidating around th e$570 range now. It might rise faster after the exchange hack.
89  Economy / Speculation / Re: We'll be at 10,000+ by 2026 on: August 05, 2016, 08:49:28 AM
that is not true we still did not reached 1000$ so its impossible to reach 10000$ in 20years.its not just going to multiply our price to increase it we need more people adopinting the bitcoin system and we need even more miners tp make the network fast and secure

The $1000 could be reached in a year. The $10,000 could be reached in 3 to 10 years without any problem.

I agree with your one point that it is might be possible, bitcoin would be come at $1000, but the next point it is difficult to reach the bitcoin into $10000 within 3 year, i can predict it but it would be possible that within 10 years bitcoin will come into $10,000.     
We are thinking very far mate, we should just predict that the price will reach to $1,000 this year, otherwise if we cannot have that this year the probability of reaching the price of bitcoin to $10,000 by 2026 is very low, just recently when the price is going down so it really affects our prediction as we are all thinking our upward direction only.

Yeah and don't expect too high from bitcoin as it is really struggling since long time even to touch the price of $1k so I think $10k will at least take 12 to 15 years from now.

That is right. The bitcoin is struggling at the moment due to the big hack. People are losing confidence.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ETH or ETC on: August 05, 2016, 08:47:57 AM
I don't know what to think of this "Ethereum Classic" beside that I don't like it. I'm kinda loyalist, and will stick to Ethereum which is backed by a world-renowned team while Ethereum Classic is made by random people on the Internet Roll Eyes... Having it more profitable than Ethereum won't last long, since a little price change kills everything...

Many world renowned team will support the Ethereum ETH not the ETC. So will ETC get its owner developers?
91  Economy / Speculation / Re: Be sure, this will drop hard soon... and here is why... on: August 05, 2016, 08:46:34 AM

yes, you are right, yesterday when I saw the price at $516 and I found that t is because of bitfinex hack, then I thought that it will once again rise sooner and so I bought some bitcoins at that price, I was a little worried about my investment also but today when I visited to price i saw that the price is now at$536, that is a very good news for me and I earn a profit even in a bad situation for the bitcoin market

Today, the price is $570. I think there is nothing wrong with the bitcoin itself, just one exchange, so the price will rise again.
You are right, this panic is not real, that is just one exchange and it will not affect the majority of users as we also have a lot of reputable big exchanges. Actually, we are going to be back to $600 shortly and I hope it will not stay on that price as the halving is not giving us a positive result.

I heard the hack was due to a bug in the use of the BitGo wallet. Many exchanges use the same technology.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: August 05, 2016, 08:45:00 AM

You do realize that the "replay theft" (where did you get the 7.5m figure?) was a combination of the hasty hardfork and the ineptitude of some exchanges and/or users? Is ETH going to roll that back too? Because that's what you seem to be suggesting. ETC doesn't care, but ETH the crime-fighting network does, so they fork again now?
plus the ETH fork did not report the thief , did nothing to find him/she, didnt investigate who was it. and i guess on the ETH forked chain all evidence of the theft is gone.



According to ETC proponents,

1) there was no "thief"
2) there was no "theft"

because "code is law" and now the hacker is the rightful owner of his (ETC) tokens.
So there is no reason to investigate according to ETC folks (hacker might be one of them).  Grin

BTW: Have those ETH bastards even magically erased all that evidence of non theft from the pre fork chain?
BTW2: You cannot have your cake and eat it...


So there is no problem for the person who "hack" the DAO tokens to sue the Ethereum Foundation?
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: August 03, 2016, 11:13:24 AM

Bitfinex said other coins were safe, yes.

But im not sure its the same hack... as he talked about the stolen ETC 2 days BEFORE the bitfinex hack.
We have not seen any proof yet, that im aware of.

edit:
The DAO hack has most of the coins locked for 28 more days i think.

Only the coins from Child 59 are out if im not wrong.

Even though the other altcoins are safe, the Bitfinex might use the unhacked coins to pay for the hack cost.

Yeah it'll be socialized and that includes eth

It is better to take your coins out of the exchanges after the trading. That is much safer option.
94  Economy / Speculation / Re: Five digits on: August 03, 2016, 11:11:47 AM
i think you might be right, i believe such price will be reached sooner or later, besides that in my opinion we will reach a new all time high in like 30 days

Did you say net all time high in 30 days? I think it is not possible. If that is the case, that will be a big bubble.
yeah, the price is definitely not going to grow that fast even though we might see some small increases in price but definitely not that big

In the short term, the bitcoin price could still be around $700 in the next 6 to 10 weeks. But after that, the price will rise.

You might be right in the long term. The bitcoin price could trade at $500 in the short term after the hack.

It is very probably for the bitcoin price to trade around the $500 range in the next few weeks.
95  Economy / Speculation / Re: We'll be at 10,000+ by 2026 on: August 03, 2016, 11:10:24 AM
that is not true we still did not reached 1000$ so its impossible to reach 10000$ in 20years.its not just going to multiply our price to increase it we need more people adopinting the bitcoin system and we need even more miners tp make the network fast and secure

The $1000 could be reached in a year. The $10,000 could be reached in 3 to 10 years without any problem.
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ETH or ETC on: August 02, 2016, 08:00:56 AM
At the moment, the price of the ETC is 18% of ETH and the hash rate is 15% of ETH. So it is more profitable to mine ETC.

Yes but hashrate is rising very fast :O

Now, mining ETC is 30% more profitable than mining ETH. But it depends on the ETC price. If that drops, it is less profitable.
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: August 02, 2016, 07:58:43 AM
22 million etc, 95,000 btc volume! I think that's a record

Is that volume inflated? There are only 82 million ETC in total, and 25% traded within 24 hours. That is normal.
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Who will be the next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtokens on? on: August 02, 2016, 07:57:08 AM


Which makes him a scamming piece of shit douche who is now rich after dumping 25% of his "Holdings" on you all.. which i might add is a bit fishy how NONE of you asked HOW he fucking got 7 or 8 million dollars in "ICO" coins in the first place.

You scammy ass ETH profiteer losers can spew bullshit out of your dick holsters till you are blue in the face..
But it's all in vain kidiots !
The outside world gove 0 fucks   .

But the Vitalik is even richer after the surge of the ETC price. Are you going to take some action to reduce the ETC price?
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum Pump & Dump Scam on: August 02, 2016, 07:54:12 AM
PnD scam or not , just benefit from the waves and make some profit !  ETH forked in flavor of the investors, ETC flavors the thief..
do your part and move on ! Smiley trade!!!!

For the miners, they do not care about the Ethereum, ETH or ETC. They will just mine and sell the coins.

That is right. There are few miners for the Ethereum now. That is because there are more profitable coins.

But the Ethereum mining is still the largest. People are mining the ETC now. The hashing increased a lot.
100  Economy / Speculation / Re: We'll be at 10,000+ by 2026 on: August 02, 2016, 07:52:59 AM
That price is very high and i think i cant imagine right now that the price of bitcoin will hit at that price..
I think the price of bitcoin can be in the future 2026 is 5k value or below..

Yeah we already got a very high price for bitcoin. And I don't see it happening it just to 10.000 in 9 years. My idea about the price of bitcoin is that it is limited.
At max i see the price some day would reach 5000 dollar. From there a period of stability will come, just like we have in traditional currencies.

$10000 is just 16 times of the current bitcoin price. If the price of bitcoin double every year, it will just take 4 years.

The chance that the price will double in just one years is minimal. The chance of that happening 4 times in a row is near impossible.

The bitcoin price has risen over 200% in the last 12 months. When more people use it, the price will rise a lot.
The price is good before halving and after that we could never see an improvement in the price, just was stable for long term which could drop or rise heavily, if no big drops occur it can be $ 3000 by 2026.

I agree with most part of the above comments. But I think the $3000 price could be reached in 3 to 5 years.
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