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81  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: December 01, 2020, 06:22:03 PM
Once in a while there are some trolls who think they can outsmart the rest. Just don't respond, they'll stop on their own.
82  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: November 30, 2020, 11:49:52 PM
I really hope that van Dijk will play again, since the back is no longer in defense, it has become a mess at Liverpool and it really needs to get better. It is total chaos.
I still want to see it against Ajax. Can they just run into another defeat? I believe they can.
83  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: November 30, 2020, 11:47:32 PM
If they have done that, it seems to me that the next step would be to automatically process payments once. I understand that this cannot go to infinite amounts, but small amounts should not cause any problems.
Making a risk analysis.

Many users will like it when a payout is processed automatically. The only one who is not happy with that is the casino or the sportsbook. I also don't think this is something that many betting sites will use.
Then the entire revenue model is gone. Then the risk is much higher of getting a loss. And apart from that, realizing such a thing doesn't seem easy to me.
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best altcoin to buy now on discount? on: November 27, 2020, 07:14:49 PM
I think buying bitcoins should still be profitable. You are dependent on several elements, but I wouldn't be surprised if we quickly move towards $ 30,000
85  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: November 27, 2020, 07:13:31 PM
Yes, we will wait a while. I am curious how many people have already used that betslip functionality, which can always accelerate your odds the moment you indicate it.
Which is I believe actually a bit of Russian roulette even if it only takes about 8 seconds.

You may have to try it out for yourself to experience what it is like. Not everyone is familiar with that mechanism that the site has built in.
I also don't know which sites have that to indicate yourself whether you always want to accept any new odds, only if it is higher or if you always have the site ask for it.
Last option seems default to me. it is still a good feature though.
86  Economy / Gambling / Re: WELCOME TO ANONYMOUS CASINO – BITCOIN CASINO ONLINE on: November 26, 2020, 11:59:37 AM
Welcome to the forum, may I ask are you a regulated casino? I mean do you have a license since I looked at your Privacy and Policy and find this:

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Personal identification information
The Personal Information which we may request to use and process shall include, without limitation:
a) Any of the information that you provide to us when filling in the forms on our account registration pages, as well as any other data that you further submit via the Website or email (e.g. first and last name, date of birth, email address, phone number);
b) Correspondence made with us via the Website, email, web chat or through other means of communication;
c) All Player Account transaction history, whether this takes place via the Website(s) or via other means of communication;
d) Website logins and their details, including traffic data, GeoIP location data, browser/device data, weblogs, activity logs and other traffic information recorded in our system; e) Documents and proofs reasonably requested by us to verify your account, to process deposits or withdrawals and to conduct anti-fraud checks (on our own initiative or as required by applicable legislation). Such proofs may include passport scans, payment slips, bank statements, etc.
f) Survey participations or any other customer assessments that we may carry out from time to time.

How come did your anonymous casino asking some personal information?

I would also like to know why they advertise a completely anonymous casino, but then ask for identification from the customer, that's not correct.
The only thing that seems to be anonymous at the moment is who is behind this casino.
87  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: November 26, 2020, 10:04:58 AM
When Ajax was still 0-0 yesterday at the half time break, there were already high odds for them. I checked this with several bookmakers, that all seemed about right. Ranging from 1.40 to 1.50
That was actually an easy bet, as they were much better. What also struck me enormously was that Bayern pushed through Munich with 10 men without any problems.
88  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: November 26, 2020, 10:02:29 AM
The group D in the champions league is by far the most exciting. Liverpool, Atlanta and Ajax can all continue. I think it will be Liverpool and Atlanta, but Ajax has shown in recent years that they can beat anyone.
Will be exciting next week, Liverpool - Ajax
89  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual on: November 25, 2020, 09:59:04 PM

It seems that for any crypto business online with casinos being the main thing, there's a heightened risk associated with being hacked. As you're mentioning this is unfortunate but it is the reality and to ensure security to customers the importance of proper firewall must not be underestimated.

Nice to see that Adkinsbet have got it sorted now!

This isn't something new yet incident like this is somewhat a norm on this market or even on traditional ones where these kind of businesses do really targeted
most of the time that's why there are really downtimes like this.So far the site had already up now and I don't have any problems on accessing it.
Security is one of the most important keys for websites reputation on where people do really confident in the place on where they do feel out
that they've been secured.Hopefully we wont see any downtime again.


Presumably they try every site to attack. Then wonder why they do that. Most logical would be to be able to break in, but this is not the case with a DDOS.
Then I would rather think of extortion to pay money so that the hackers stop an attack. If you give in to that, they can still ask for more.
I even read once that a group had carried out a DDoS attack on a university of applied sciences in the Netherlands and that they demanded a ransom of EUR 200,000.
They even paid the full amount for that via an Escrow service ?! it shouldn't get any crazier in this world.
90  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: November 25, 2020, 09:43:55 PM
LOL.  Oh my.  I'm done.  My bet is dead.  Atalanta got this one.

and atalanta go go Smiley



i warn all, Atalanta is good team and good society, built over the years

I am very happy, they are finally starting to get a little bit of serious experience in championships and they will certainly do well this year, we hope they can reach the quarter-finals Cheesy

well, i think everyone knows that Atalanta is a good team but they made bets on liverpool because they're better, but they should have avoid betting on liverpool to win, my bet  included both teams to score at 1.5, and i don't think they can score, Liverpool played terribly today.

This is really bad for Liverpool. Atlanta is also better than many people think, but still, they should not lose with 0-2 at home. At least I'm just assuming that they will lose it. Liverpool will remain at the top of the group, but it is getting more exciting now.
91  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏈 NITROGEN SPORTS | NFL Survivor Pools with over 30 BTC* in GTD prizes! 🏈 on: November 25, 2020, 05:21:40 PM

The fact that they do not respond at all to this does not help them. It would have been nice if the site also gave a substantive response here, but they don't respond.
It is your right that you created a flag now.
92  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: November 24, 2020, 04:46:26 PM
spyrosc20+TIMOM+LEVSKI7 = Part of the same group (or 1 person)

What would be the odds that they will be responsible for this new Ddos attack again?
If I could bet on that, I would definitely give it a shot.

Maybe 1.90?
93  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: November 23, 2020, 07:01:32 PM
I am really curious how Barcelona will solve this. And then you also hear the coach say that he has no doubts. But it is 12th on the list, laughable actually.
They are closer to relegation football than championship  Shocked
94  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: November 23, 2020, 06:59:08 PM
I do not have any problem connecting, I just checked it and the website is widely open without any problems. I would have to say about the other topic that hacking and ddos are not "completely" different things. Obviously not all hacks are ddos and not all ddos are hacking, but you could definitely use a ddos attack for hacking purposes if you want to, that is available option.

The common reasons for ddos is to get ransom and common reasons for hacking is to get the money by force, so usually they do not overlap but it is also not impossible for them to be used together neither. While I doubt that was the case (very low chance) here, it was still an attack and any attack on any casino shows how much of a danger casinos are in every single day from these type of issues.

I don't have any issues at the moment either. They probably took quite a hit with those ddos. if I read on the internet, you see that this is really very pale. But yes, what can you do about it? if you are going to exclude countries in a firewall, you will get the problem that customers from those countries are also immediately excluded.
95  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: November 19, 2020, 03:37:34 PM
Hello, i wait withdraw near 24 hours.
Still dont get it.. say that investigate my bets and that i'm use some API.. i dont understand what about they talk.

Wait for withdraw 60 mbtc


We can inform you that the payment of 60 mBTC has just been processed on our side.

We just had to verify and check your bets. We would like to ask players to understand that in certain situations we occasionally need a little longer to verify these bets.
Can you please check your wallet if the funds has been reflected to your wallet?


Adkinsbet, I wouldn't mind too much that users are quick to complain if they haven't had their money soon.
Nowadays players have little patience and expect everything to be paid out immediately.
It is good that you have paid it out and confirmed it to the user on the forum.
96  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: THE MOST PAINFUL DAY IN MY BETTING CAREER on: November 19, 2020, 11:20:15 AM
It is difficult to define what is the most painful day for each player. That can turn out very well. just when you think you've had the most painful day, it may well happen that some time later (or after a few years) you still have a painful day. At that point, you should actually stop gambling.
97  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ 🏈 AceDBets.io🥇Multi Crypto SportsBook🏆[NoKYC🤖][Fast Deposit & Cashout🚀] 🏀 🎾 on: November 19, 2020, 11:18:25 AM
I received my payment thank you

You were very lucky to receive your withdrawal. The stories from this site are generally not great. It is now important to you that you have been paid.
If I can give you 1 advice , I would not play at a website that is not licensed. There are plenty of websites that have a gambling license.
How long did you finally have to wait before receiving your payout?

a little bit more than 9 days. thanks for advice, but as far as i can receive my withdrawals im gonna stay with acedbets as their product is of very good quality

This user is so funny. He was trying to warn people not to use adkinsbet because it might uses the same engine as betb2b (which is not).
He prefers to keep playing on a site that let him wait for 9 days for a withdrawal.
Where is the logic to keep playing on a site that do not pay you in 9 days? Or is this your own site?

why do u say nothing about funny guy promoting adkins above my post? i think they already explained the reason for delays and now when all is fixed they should process withdrawals in less than 24hrs as before

If a site made me wait 9 days, I would never play there again in my life. That is not acceptable in any situation, is it? Okay, now when it comes to 1 million, I understand it could take a long time.
I assume that was not the case? If you have to wait 9 days for your money, it could also be that you never get the money again.
Payments within 24 hours are okay, although I think it could actually be a bit faster.
98  Other / Off-topic / Re: How do you handle stress? on: November 16, 2020, 05:28:49 PM
I haven't had stress for a long time (3 years).
A meditative state of mind helps me. This is when you stop the monologue in your head, stop fighting and accept everything as it is.
I can also watch a movie, chill with friends, listen to music and, of course, do what I love to do (some favorite hobby).


I am not quite sure yet how to deal with stress. It is something that can come and go unexpectedly, but I do know that keeping an eye on the bitcoin exchange is definitely not good for your stress.
99  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: betnomi.com SCAM - confiscated $ 3,000 from me and closed the account on: November 16, 2020, 05:17:51 PM
This was part of the message this user sent us after creating the "Scam accusation"


I see that you do not have the best reputation on the forum and I am sure that there has been a misunderstanding and your reputation will only get worse.
I offer you to pay me my money 3000 dollars for bitcoin or ether and I will publicly write on the forum that our conflict is settled and that I received a withdrawal from you of the entire amount.



And in his last post, he mentions the word "reputation" 4 separate times and made references to our reputation 3 separate times in one little post. It is very obvious someone thinking they could latch on to our reputation and pull that string until they net their ill gain profit. Might be a good or even an effective strategy against some other company but will never work against us. Judgments on our reputation are reserved for our users. You can pull and twist it all you want.
We believe personal user experience will mostly supersede propaganda and misinformation.


When a person loses, he is an honest gambler, but if a gambler wins, then he is unprovenly accused of several accounts, and money is taken away? How much your dialogue and business models have in common.


This is a very dishonest and shameful attempt to frame the narrative in his favor.
We already stated, as soon as we determine wrongdoing by a user, we will take actions against them. No bets, win or lose. ie, implement countermeasure or close their account if need be.

In the example below:


On 2020-10-25 user: lapoola91** created an account and made a $1,000.01   deposit and the risk management system detected
ram**** and lap**** to be the same user and automatically limited the bet limit for the specific category of the event which ram**** was betting on.
Soon after, user lap**** wrote us an email requesting we increase his on that specific event and we declined. Immediately, lap**** withdrew his $1,000.01 deposit.


We immediately placed a limit on the user as soon as he was identified to be multi-accounting.
Did we ban him, no! Countermeasure was implemented, and he did nothing but withdraw his money and that was the end of it. We could have banned that account of his and confiscate his funds but, we didn't. We gave him a chance to refrain from such actions. But when this behavior continued, we had no choice but to ban all the new accounts he created and retroactively ban all the old ones. So the idea we ban only winners is extremely dishonest.


As far as using the service of a sports dispute regulator, you are most welcome to use such service and present your case to them. Our team will gladly cooperate with them and share all the information and evidence we gathered that tired you to these four accounts.




@deadthings There seems to be some kind of misunderstanding around the limits and why fraudulent users will create multiple accounts. We will try and give a short example/ explanation here.


There are some players who do arbitrage betting or late betting. This is essentially exploiting/ cheating and is against the rules of every bookmaker. Most sportsbooks will outright ban you for doing this. But, we at Betnomi do our best to remain customer friendly.
Banning/ closing a user's account is always our last resort. We take the approach of using limits as a countermeasure to these kinds of activities. Instead of closing the account,
we give a small limit. With these limits, the risk is controlled. What happens in these cases, the system continues to monitor the user's behavior and will gradually increase their limits if they stop such activities. But in most of these cases, the users just abandon the account and that ends the story. Here is where the problem starts. When these limits are implemented, because the user has one intention to use fraudulent means to make a quick profit, they abandon the accounts and create a new account to continue with their fraudulent actions. Fortunately, we have automated tools to identify such users.

You can check our ANN for a similar issue. The user was identified as an Abbitrage bettor, limits were implemented, he simply withdrew his funds and that ends it. He did not create another account to bypass these limits at least as far as we can tell and had no problems or whatsoever.

Betnomi is a new company and growing fast. We have no illusion or delusion there will be many users such as these always hunting for a new sportsbook platform to exploit and make quick profits. It just happens we are the wrong target.  We are humans and not going to act like some corporate robots etc. Our goal is to remain open, friendly, and engaged with the community. We will be the first to admit when we make a mistake and swiftly rectify it but, when we are right, we will stand by our actions no matter what.


Sincerely,

Betnomi.

I think things are getting a lot clearer now. So the user created an account with the intention of using the system with bets that had wrong odds/outcomes? As you sometimes see with an offside goal?

If so, this evidence is not a secret. Publishing these matches or bets would quickly resolve everything and put an end to all discussion. The user has no problems with displaying this information, I assume.

I saw that the user had already posted which bets he had placed. Which bets are made according to arbitrage betting?

If you can provide us this information, then I am sure there are people who have expertise who can investigate this and come to the right conclusion.

And in that case, I am also sure that nobody will doubt about Betnomi.

I think that this is the right and correct (probably only way) to solve the case.
100  Economy / Gambling / Re: Exbet is LIVE >> The Bitcoin Betting Exchange [exbet.io] on: November 15, 2020, 04:00:32 PM
there is little interest in this topic at the moment. maybe it would be an idea to organize a signature campaign to get some more name recognition?
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