I am pretty surprised by the price development. Has anybody tried to analyze the orderbook and the transactions during the time of the price drop?
What is there to be analyzed? It's as simple as that: this "investment" is sh..t and the price is going down... to 0. |
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Nu am timp sa citesc tot topicul dar mare atentie cu bitnefix, mai ales cu inchiderea pozitiilor!
Anul trecut am facut in decurs de cateva zile vreo 150 dolari desi nu prea stiam ce fac si apoi nu am mai pus acele pozitii de stop si normal ca am pierdut tot ce am castigat.
Cryptorally avea un tutorial, nu mai este pe livejurnal publicat.
Bine inteles ca trebuie atentie, ca la orice altceva. Chiar din primii ani de viata ne'am auzit parintii spunandu'ne: "Atentie cand treci strada!". |
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Ordinul trailing stop clarificat: Exemplu: Am pus un ordin trailing stop de 1btc pentru buy. In casuta am trecut valoarea 20 (se refera la usd si nu inseamna ca pui sa cumperi 1 btc cu 20 usd si da sunt sigur  ) Pretul de referinta se ia pretul de market cand se pune ordinul, astfel incat la ordine active apare ordinul trailing stop si la price apare initial pretul de market + 20. In cazul meu a aparut 638. Am spus ca apare initial deoarece campul price nu este fix ci se modifica cu piata astfel: 1. Daca pretul incepe sa scada atunci si pretul la care se va executa ordinul incepe sa scada, el pastrand o distanta de 20 usd fata de cel mai mik Ask din orderbook (in cazul meu pretul a coborat pana la 635) 2. Daca pretul incepe sa creasca atunci pretul la care se va executa ordinul trailing stop ramane fix, el declansandu'se in momentul in care cel mai mic ask din orderbook devine egal sau mai mare cu valoarea din campul price al ordinului. De precizat ar fi ca odata ce s'a declansat ordinul el cumpara toate pozitiile din order book pentru a inchide ordinul. Mai exact daca se pune un ordin trailing stop de 10 btc la pretul x si ajunge sa se declanseze atunci el va cumpara din order book 10 btc chiar daca exista doar 1 btc la pretul x si urmatoarele pozitii avand preturi mai mari. |
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Haha, you really should remove butterfly labs from that. Also, ROI is definitely possible within 5 years.
Yes, it seems like ROI in the crypto world assumes everyone should be able to buy a coin for $2 and have it be worth $600 3 years later. If you can earn 10% per year, that is a very high return. $100k will become $259k in 10 years. I don't know how much that $2.5 (a number that has been mentioned by someone many times) will be worth in 5 years at PB mining. But, I expect it will be more than $4.03, which is 10% compounded annually for 5 years. pick any numbers you want and just check the magnitude- year 3,4,5 wont count... ROI in the red can happen from buy conversion or btc value increase- is there a calculator with a derivative for difficulty increases? Yes it is: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator |
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New user with 1 activity asking for investments. Clasic.
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RON:
1. Google: 1,865.8727 RON
2. Yahoo: 1,863.3961 RON
3. btcxchange.ro: bid - 1830.00; ask - 1912.50
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Ok. So in conclusion you aspect "investors" to pay 1000 usd more for a SP10 and after that pay for power and hosting as well.
Good luck with that but I really think that those times are gone.
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Add more crypto, namecoin, PPC perhaps
No need to add more coins. Keep it just the way it is. |
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Give it up, mate. You stated your terms, nobody is intersted. You overpaid for your miner, accept your loss.
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Calculation.
- you are selling 10GH at 0,042btc - at 640USD = 26,88USD per share.
- you are buying SP10s, which costs individuals around 2700USD at 1,4TH.
- total 140 shares per 1 SP10 = you are selling us one SP10 for 3700USD - that is about 1000USD more than from SPTech.
- First round is 5000 shares, so about 35xSP10s, that would make 35.000USD per round, 8x35.000USD = 280.000USD per all first 8 rounds (aka 2 months).
My question is this - will you plan to use that money for buying additional miners, or for other expenses, or profit ? Thanks.
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So? |
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Whole lotta talk about posting negative feedback on this fella but nobody has followed through thus far. Any particular reason why? Has something changed?
nwfella, on trusted you have: These ratings are from people who are not in your trust network. They may be totally inaccurate. Show ratings. Click on Show ratings and you will see the feedbacks. You don't see it directly because none of as are on your trusted list. |
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Nu prea inteleg comanda trailing stop, tu imi vorbesti de procente dar ei imi afiseaza in usd. De ex am pus 0.4 btc la 646USD/BTC rata de schimb, am o casuta in care pot scrie si presupun ca e vorba de procente, am scris 10 si sub imi da =~4,3USD. Ce inseamna asta?
Pe mine ma intereseaza sa vand in up trend iar marja de sa fie de 5% din pretul pe care l-am afisat in momentul cand vand, adica, 5% din 646 e 32.3 + 646 = 678.3 678.3 reprezinta stop loss in caz ca pretul mai creste dai apoi coboara sub 678.3 . Cel putin asa am inteles ca functioneaza trailing stop; de ce nu imi afiseaza procentaje, sau cum sa inteleg ce e cu cei 4,3 USD cand scriu 10?
Da, intr'adevar am facut o greseala. Nu este vorba de procente, asa era la inceput dar vad ca intre timp s'a schimbat, acum vad ca este direct in usd. Eu avand acces 24/24 nu folosesc trailing stop si stop loss deoarece prefer sa pun aceste ordine manual (folosind limit) prin contrapozitii. De mentionat ca aceste pozitii se anuleaza reciproc (sau se inchid daca spre exemplu ai o pozitie activa de long (buy) pentru x btc si la un moment dat se executa o pozitie de short (sell) pentru x btc), adica nu poti avea simultan si long si short, de aceea eu prefer aceasta metoda. In cazul specificat de tine trebuie sa calculezi cat inseamna acesti 5% din pret si sa setezi ordinul in usd. Ordinul trailing stop se misca odata cu piata, adica nu poti fixa dinainte la cat sa se execute ordinul deoarece nu stii cat o sa se miste piata in favoarea ta pana o ia in directia opusa. Atentie cu ordinul trailing stop: nu se declanseaza pana ce piata nu s'a miscat in directia propusa cu cel putin cat ai setat la trailing stop. Ca sa fiu concret, spre exemplu daca fixezi trailing stop pe un ordin de buy si pui in casuta 10 (reprezentand usd, nu procente cum am spus in descriere) atunci acel ordin se va executa DOAR daca pretul de market creste peste 610 usd. El se va executa la cat ajunge piata cel mai sus minus acei 10 (usd) cand coboara. Daca piata ajunge pana la 650 usd si dupa asta incepe sa coboare ordinul se va executa la 640 usd. Scuze pentru greseala facuta initial, sper ca nu ti'am provocat nici o pierdere prin asta. De fapt am mai citit acum si nu pot spune sigur ca ordinul de trailing stop se executa doar daca mai intai piata se misca in directia dorita, este posibil sa se execute si daca se misca in directia contrara cu numarul de unitati specificate de tine. Cand o sa'mi inchid pozitia curenta o sa fac un mic experiment ca sa'ti spun sigur daca este asa sau nu. |
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Difficulty will rise, prices will be lowered.
But this doesn't have nothing to do with the ones that allready paid for a contract. You just can't say that you will ROI in three months based on the curent difficulty, you are misleading people with this kind of calculations. |
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Yes, but I find it very hard to belive that you don't know that this difficulty is increasing every 11 days (between 12% - 20%). Your calculations are misleading because you know very well what I'm talking about. It's not good for the image of your company to state false numbers, the difficulty it's not static. Present all the risks with buying cloud mining contracts so the costumers can make their calculations . Don't mislead costumers with false calculations, we had enought companies like this! Best hope for us is Bitcoin Price will increase so we can make ROI in fiat that we use to purchase cloud mining contract If not, we will make a long way to ROI  Mining have nothing to do with the btc/usd price ratio. You should always report mining only to btc. |
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Yes, but I find it very hard to belive that you don't know that this difficulty is increasing every 11 days (between 12% - 20%). Your calculations are misleading because you know very well what I'm talking about. It's not good for the image of your company to state false numbers, the difficulty it's not static. Present all the risks with buying cloud mining contracts so the costumers can make their calculations . Don't mislead costumers with false calculations, we had enought companies like this! |
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ce se intampla cu situl? numai merge..
De ce zici asta? merge perfect. |
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Subscribing to ...
But, unfortunately...
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This is how it's going to end this "investment", exactly as they say: "But, unfortunately..." |
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On the other hand it was expected that usagi will get confused and "loose" the wallet. In general he's so confused that he doesn't know if he's a she or she's a he.
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Usagi, can you post the address/addresses of the wallet so we can track it? If not than something is very very suspicious about the whole thing with the "lost" wallet.
You should ask this on the moderated thread. This thread is for trolls. Ups... things are turning to be not as they apear. (sc..cough..am) This thread is for liberty susteiners.Nobody is going to moderate me, especially not you. You have moderate preety good your investors donors! |
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