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801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ARCHcoin [ARCH] The ARCH Network - NEWS on: May 04, 2015, 09:28:50 PM
Would like to warn you about bter exchange.
I'm trying to withdraw ARCH from bter but they are cancelling my withdrawal requests for a few days.

If somebody from ARCH Team could intervene in this matter I would appreciate it.


Best!


Sorry to inform you this but Bter was hacked and closed down a couple of months ago. They reopened after a few week saying "everything was fine" but since they haven't returned anyones funds since then, we all suspect  they are just trying to scam people to deposit there and then bail.

Wish you the best of luck and keep contacting their support. I also have a few thousand Arch there but they don't even reply to developers.

Cheers

I've been able to withdrawal all of my funds (UNITY and XCR) from bter since the hack... Didn't have any ARCH on there, maybe it is specific to ARCH?
802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DOX] [Get Dox?] [Pure PoS] [3 exchanges, bittrex,yobit, empoex] [Beta2 roadmap] on: May 04, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
The coin has a market cap floating between 15-35 BTC. So low that I don't understand how miners or the dev could have even made money off of this one yet. Why not throw some spare change at it and see if it turns into a few BTC? Obviously a high-risk, high-reward endeavor. Which is why I recommend only putting spare change in. If dev is smart and wants easy money he will buy at these prices too and do something or at least feign doing something, lol.
803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GEO] GeoCoin | GIS & GeoTechnologies on: May 04, 2015, 08:10:41 PM
Hi everyone,

We have been working hard and there are several updates to the Geocashing app wallet.geocoin.cash! Thanks to all beta testers for their dedication to this project. Some of the more notable updates include:

Beta has been updated to the new GUI (some of those clusters are getting big Smiley )




Bulk drop by rectangle!





QR code generator is working with alpha tests. "Geo-QR" codes are under development. More news about this to come.



This is awesome! Thank you, Tobler! This coin has a very bright future ahead Smiley
804  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 03, 2015, 06:54:22 PM
I really think if these markets are to be functional they need to use btc, at least at first.
I understand your points, but in order to accept other currencies/blockchains we would need atomic cross-chain transactions.  I know there are a few people looking into that but as far as I know there are no POC's out yet let alone a proven solution.  For instance, how would we enforce a BTC 3 party multi-sig from within Crave.  Actually, I do know one way that we could do it, but it would require that users run a full BTC node in addition to the Crave wallet and it is relatively complex to build.  The fact that it is challenging doesn't mean a flat "no", but maybe it is something to put on the roadmap to look into after the market release with the understanding that it could be weeks or months of R&D work to build and test the solution.
thanks for brief answer, imo it would be waste of time building atomic cross-chain transactions architecture at this point of time. maybe Long term yes. After Urge markets are dropped i am sure ppl will build their business around it. ALT price volatility didn't stop people using drk before, ppl do adopt you know.

Very, very few people use DRK for these types of markets, for the exact reasons I outlined. I don't use these types of markets myself but I do follow them closely as I find them interesting.
i personally didn't follow darkmarkets that closely i only saw they have drk as payment option. anyway icm has his own concept with Urge markets so it will be interesting to see how it will work out. to have btc as another payment option would sure be beneficial. maybe some community members will came up with some fresh ideas (expl. cravedigger)

None of the major darkmarkets or vendors use drk, they use btc. I agree that crave will be different and that is why it is exciting and theres a lot of potential (I edited the post you quoted to reflect that, but was too slow).
805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 03, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
I really think if these markets are to be functional they need to use btc, at least at first.
I understand your points, but in order to accept other currencies/blockchains we would need atomic cross-chain transactions.  I know there are a few people looking into that but as far as I know there are no POC's out yet let alone a proven solution.  For instance, how would we enforce a BTC 3 party multi-sig from within Crave.  Actually, I do know one way that we could do it, but it would require that users run a full BTC node in addition to the Crave wallet and it is relatively complex to build.  The fact that it is challenging doesn't mean a flat "no", but maybe it is something to put on the roadmap to look into after the market release with the understanding that it could be weeks or months of R&D work to build and test the solution.
thanks for brief answer, imo it would be waste of time building atomic cross-chain transactions architecture at this point of time. maybe Long term yes. After Urge markets are dropped i am sure ppl will build their business around it. ALT price volatility didn't stop people using drk before, ppl do adopt you know.

Very, very few people use DRK for these types of markets, for the exact reasons I outlined. I don't use these types of markets myself but I do follow them closely as I find them interesting. Go to r/darknetmarkets and make a post about using an alt, everybody will laugh and scoff at you. Now, Crave will be different since it is providing its own infrastructure to build markets devoted and dependent on itself, so we will just have to wait and see if people are open to the idea and jump on board.

The hard part is getting vendors on board, if you can do that customers will follow.
806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 03, 2015, 06:43:13 PM
I really think if these markets are to be functional they need to use btc, at least at first.
I understand your points, but in order to accept other currencies/blockchains we would need atomic cross-chain transactions.  I know there are a few people looking into that but as far as I know there are no POC's out yet let alone a proven solution.  For instance, how would we enforce a BTC 3 party multi-sig from within Crave.  Actually, I do know one way that we could do it, but it would require that users run a full BTC node in addition to the Crave wallet and it is relatively complex to build.  The fact that it is challenging doesn't mean a flat "no", but maybe it is something to put on the roadmap to look into after the market release with the understanding that it could be weeks or months of R&D work to build and test the solution.

Thank you for the quick, satisfactory reply. Much appreciated!
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] ParkByte [PKB] Short POW / POS - Digital Parking Tickets on: May 03, 2015, 06:20:09 PM
-snip-


But if "providers" wanted to make a $100k server backend to do this, why wouldn't they just do it for bitcoin?

I really like this idea but I'm not sure why there needs to be a new coin to implement it.

Well there doesn't need to be a new coin, and there would be nothing to stop them doing it for bitcoin.

I do see a few benefits to using an alt coin rather than bitcoin.

TX Fee BTC its 0.0001BTC, PKB will be 0.0001PKB (unless 1PKB=1BTC this is a generous saving for 1000's of daily micro payments.)
Block times, PKB will be 1minute compared to bitcoins 30minute block
Users can stake their coins and earn interest on their parking change
Bitcoin doesn't have a specific target market, even though it will probably always be the leader of crypto it does have a bad image for its uses. ParkByte is specifically targeted at parking, not drugs, not anonymity and not to avoid the alphabet agencies' eyes.
Maybe just maybe Parkbyte *might* be less volatile

Lastly, Why not? I am only joining in on the mass altcoin creation I was starting to feel left out  Roll Eyes.


Thanks for the reply. The blocktime and Tx fees are good points, quick confirmations would certainly be advantageous and micropayments do need lower fees.

I understand wanting to jump on the altcoin train, too. But, too often devs want to do so for one reason and one reason only- quick profit- and then they abandon the project.
808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 03, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
I've been away for a while (since the big pump Smiley) so please excuse my ignorance. I see a lot of progress is being made and the market looks oversold and so I'm on the sidelines again, but I have a question before jumping back in: Are the crave markets going to use crave or btc as the currency for purchasing stuff? Or both? Sorry if this is already answered somewhere obvious.

Could somebody answer this plz? I just want to know if btc or crave will be used as the currency on the markets. Thanks.
The Urge markets use Crave.  Smiley

Perfect Smiley, that's exactly what do I wanted to hear, the market will create an insane buying demand to crave. Cool


Please consider the points in my full msg, I left it out.

I've been away for a while (since the big pump Smiley) so please excuse my ignorance. I see a lot of progress is being made and the market looks oversold and so I'm on the sidelines again, but I have a question before jumping back in: Are the crave markets going to use crave or btc as the currency for purchasing stuff? Or both? Sorry if this is already answered somewhere obvious.

I am asking because, lets be real, nobody is going to use an altcoin on illicit markets.. They very well might use the markets themselves, but they will not use an altcoin for the transactions. For many reasons...

1) Decreased anonymity. Sure, this coin is more "anonymous" than bitcoin, but nothing is absolutely anonymous and since there are so few people who use it, it is actually waaaaaaay easier to keep track of everybody involved.

2) Volatility. Vendors and even customers cannot and will not tolerate the extreme volatility. Even bitcoin's volatility is a big problem for illicit vendors because they are not able to quickly liquidate their funds since they first have to launder them.
 
3) Liquidity (closely related to #2). Vendors need to be able to cash out without dumping the market to oblivion. Not as big an issue for customers because when they pump the price up buying, it just means they pay less crave when they purchase something with it (but this is just doubly screwing the vendor now because of the inflated value of crave).


Now, obviously all of these issues would diminish as adoption increases. But even bitcoin hasn't completely achieved this.

For the above reasons, if the markets are to actually be functional and not just proof-of-concept, I think it would be best if BTC were used within the markets. Or at least for it to be an option. If that's even possible? Or will it simply be up to the people who run the markets?

Again, sorry if these questions have already been answered ad nauseam.

I really think if these markets are to be functional they need to use btc, at least at first.
809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 03, 2015, 06:08:42 PM
I've been away for a while (since the big pump Smiley) so please excuse my ignorance. I see a lot of progress is being made and the market looks oversold and so I'm on the sidelines again, but I have a question before jumping back in: Are the crave markets going to use crave or btc as the currency for purchasing stuff? Or both? Sorry if this is already answered somewhere obvious.

Could somebody answer this plz? I just want to know if btc or crave will be used as the currency on the markets. Thanks.
The Urge markets use Crave.  Smiley

Would it be possible to use BTC too? I had removed the bulk of my previous post when I reposted it, but basically I think a functional illicit market would need to use BTC and not an alt- at least at first until the alt can provide the needed anonymity, liquidity, and reduced volatility.
810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 03, 2015, 06:01:02 PM
I've been away for a while (since the big pump Smiley) so please excuse my ignorance. I see a lot of progress is being made and the market looks oversold and so I'm on the sidelines again, but I have a question before jumping back in: Are the crave markets going to use crave or btc as the currency for purchasing stuff? Or both? Sorry if this is already answered somewhere obvious.

Could somebody answer this plz? I just want to know if btc or crave will be used as the currency on the markets. Thanks.
811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] ParkByte [PKB] Short POW / POS - Digital Parking Tickets on: May 03, 2015, 08:12:55 AM
Let's look at what we have here.

- clone coin
- a cool idea
- no support from any car park company in the business
- no support from any current car park system
- an anonymous dev/s making it impossible to judge their abilities to do such a thing
- basically free PoS coins.
- a premine.
- an idea for a software system that would cost $100,000 to build an alpha version.

My marketcap value estimate = $500 = 2 BTC. How much would you pay to get in on this coin?


My advice, do more planning, get connections, come back next year and try again.





I like this idea. Please provide us with any reasons you have to think that this coin will be a success.

Thanks for taking the time to read the thread before posting this time.

My quick sarcy response to that would normally be "well then ParkByte has a better potentional than other altcoins out there"

However here is a better response

I have worked for a leading parking machine manufacturer for 5 years, so I do have contacts.

I am not however like Homero Garza, claiming to have partnerships etc when i do not.

Therefore, there are no contracts, contacts, support or anything for this coin at this time.

It is merely an idea that people have the opportunity to speculate on, no one is forcing their hand.

The premine will be to pay for Development work

EDIT: sorry missed this point

Quote
- an idea for a software system that would cost $100,000 to build an alpha version.

The $100k to build you talk about, I assume you are talking about the server backend, the majority of this won't come from the coin.

The idea is that the coin provides basic framework, ease of integration and generically useable worldwide, think of this as the Blockchain.info but targeted specifically at paying to park your car.

It will then be upto the "Providers" to do the $100k work. I would then see some sort of marketplace opening up, where dev's make addons, plugins, themes etc, similar to the CMS used these days.




But if "providers" wanted to make a $100k server backend to do this, why wouldn't they just do it for bitcoin?

I really like this idea but I'm not sure why there needs to be a new coin to implement it.
812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 03, 2015, 07:58:12 AM
I've been away for a while (since the big pump Smiley) so please excuse my ignorance. I see a lot of progress is being made and the market looks oversold and so I'm on the sidelines again, but I have a question before jumping back in: Are the crave markets going to use crave or btc as the currency for purchasing stuff? Or both? Sorry if this is already answered somewhere obvious.

I am asking because, lets be real, nobody is going to use an altcoin on illicit markets.. They very well might use the markets themselves, but they will not use an altcoin for the transactions. For many reasons...

1) Decreased anonymity. Sure, this coin is more "anonymous" than bitcoin, but nothing is absolutely anonymous and since there are so few people who use it, it is actually waaaaaaay easier to keep track of everybody involved.

2) Volatility. Vendors and even customers cannot and will not tolerate the extreme volatility. Even bitcoin's volatility is a big problem for illicit vendors because they are not able to quickly liquidate their funds since they first have to launder them.
 
3) Liquidity (closely related to #2). Vendors need to be able to cash out without dumping the market to oblivion. Not as big an issue for customers because when they pump the price up buying, it just means they pay less crave when they purchase something with it (but this is just doubly screwing the vendor now because of the inflated value of crave).


Now, obviously all of these issues would diminish as adoption increases. But even bitcoin hasn't completely achieved this.

For the above reasons, if the markets are to actually be functional and not just proof-of-concept, I think it would be best if BTC were used within the markets. Or at least for it to be an option. If that's even possible? Or will it simply be up to the people who run the markets?

Again, sorry if these questions have already been answered ad nauseam.
813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ARCHCOIN scam - sell this coin on: May 03, 2015, 07:23:37 AM
Actually I heard Architect degenerately gambled away most of the ICO on alts and Okcoin, much like Drak probably did with his Via money. But i'll leave it at that.

LOL. I hope this is true. That would explain why Drak had to come back and do a second ICO/IPO with the clearinghouse "burn"  Cheesy
814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIRAL] [CROWDFUND NOW LIVE 5m Total | DPoS 2.0 + 5% w/ Celeb Dev [ESCROW] on: May 03, 2015, 06:27:19 AM
Is there a reason for having both a crowdfunding and then another ICO? I mean, besides to make as much BTC as quickly as possible? Just curious...
815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GEO] GeoCoin | GIS & GeoTechnologies on: May 02, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
There are coins with absolutely nothing unique to offer that have marketcaps 10x or more than Geo.
816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIRAL] [CROWDFUND NOW LIVE 5m Total | DPoS 2.0 + 5% w/ Celeb Dev [ESCROW] on: May 02, 2015, 05:09:15 AM
im getting a *CRAVE* to buy VIRAL, are u??

I do want to. But i need to know if the address I used the first time is still good to send to. do you know?

sarcasm!! as this seems to much like the crave idea but im still in Wink

Crave is about hypothetical drug markets that nobody will ever use.

What does crave have to do with viral and i don't tink that viral will have drug markets.  Sad where did you read that they will

That was my point. They won't (to my knowledge). They are completely different concepts for coins.
817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIRAL] [CROWDFUND NOW LIVE 5m Total | DPoS 2.0 + 5% w/ Celeb Dev [ESCROW] on: May 02, 2015, 01:40:55 AM
im getting a *CRAVE* to buy VIRAL, are u??

I do want to. But i need to know if the address I used the first time is still good to send to. do you know?

sarcasm!! as this seems to much like the crave idea but im still in Wink

Crave is about hypothetical drug markets that nobody will ever use.
818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIRAL] [CROWDFUND NOW LIVE 5m Total | DPoS 2.0 + 5% w/ Celeb Dev [ESCROW] on: May 02, 2015, 01:39:54 AM
Wow, i'm in the top 5 so far.... when is all the big money going to go in on this?  2 5 btc deposits and 2 2btc so far.... lets goooo.

If they are coming they will probably wait til close to the end so as not to scare smaller people away by making the initial marketcap/valuation so much larger/higher.
819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIRAL] [CROWDFUND NOW LIVE 5m Total | DPoS 2.0 + 5% w/ Celeb Dev [ESCROW] on: May 01, 2015, 09:36:05 PM
was the crowdfunding thread just closed, too?
820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GEO] GeoCoin | GIS & GeoTechnologies on: May 01, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
dont bother, cant you see we are going down the drain?

Why do you bother saying things like this? If you aren't involved with the coin anymore why do you keep coming back to this thread?

If you were in slack you would know that this project is just beginning. Don't pass on something you will regret greatly later on  Grin

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