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801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 28, 2023, 02:29:21 AM
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That's right, the Brazilian national team still has a chance to compete in America, and I also never thought they would be eliminated in the qualifying stage. There are still many future matches that have not yet been played, there are still many months to prepare, and everything is still under control. For me everything will go well as before, I mean Neymar and his colleagues will return to their original track.

Great hopes rest on Ancelotti shoulders, even though we will never know for sure about his future at Real Madrid. However, I think he is the right person to coach Brazil, moreover, the Italian coach really understands the character of the players in the squad, many of them have worked together at club level, and even now this is the case with Vinicius, Rodrygo and Militao.

Yeah, the qualifiers just started, heaps of matches to go.

And more importantly, a lot of time to change their mindset.

That's the key, they need to change how they perceive their team. They are now playing with a losing mentality. They need to change it, but that requires time.
802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot games are a waste of time and money (most of the time) on: November 28, 2023, 02:28:00 AM
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Yeah, I think that's their strategy to keep their clients to play more even if they consistently losing their money. The graphic, huge winning prizes and the way on how to play slots is their strategy to capture gambler's interest. I agree that this is a waste of money because there's no guarantee of winning in slot machine, maybe there's a winning but a little chance and a small amount only, you can also get a free spin which convince you to play again.

Yeah, I mean, if you gamble a small amount of money, or at least an amount of money that won't hurt you financially, then some people might enjoy that, as it is some extra fun, and maybe a tiny portion of them actually get lucky and win big.

But when gamblers put all their money into the casino, well, that's a different story.
803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 28, 2023, 02:26:38 AM
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I saw an interview with a gambler to keep their lottery tickets in the box and it already cost more than 1 million in our local currency and yet, they never win the jackpot prize. However, they remain optimistic that one day they could win the jackpot prize and become a millionaire. I'm not sure where they get that optimism but yes, we can stop people from gambling if they want to as long as they don't bother other's lives and make debts. Who knows that luck will come someday and that will change their lives.

I'm pretty sure that if most gamblers simply would invest whatever amount they gamble they would actually be millionaires right now.

Many people have spent a fortune over their lifetime gambling when they could have invested it all and simply wait.

I guess investing can be seen as boring whereas gambling is fun.
804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 28, 2023, 02:25:02 AM
Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction is do not deposit  Grin just simply throw away your money in a different wallet or some bank and lock it up. Today digital banks have a feature to lock your money in some period of time and there is a fee when you try to withdraw it early.

In crypto, there is also a staking with time period so throw it and you have no money to do a deposit. if you still want to do gamble just download a game from the app store or google play there is a plenty game out there with fake money you can do slot domino blakjack and lot of it

Do you mean a long term deposit?, that could be an interesting way to invest the gambling money.

Once it's there, it's gone, similar to what would happen in the casino. Except with the term deposit in say 5 years you will get more money instead of zero with the casino.
805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 27, 2023, 01:56:10 AM
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This is not a problem because Brazil is very advanced in the world of football and they will prepare very well before that World Cup.  Brazil has no chance of being eliminated in the qualifying round. Because they are a strong enough team Neymar is a very good player and he gives enough effort for Brazil to perform well. So qualification is not a problem for Brazil.  They will need to prepare well before the next World Cup starts and try to win the cup.

Yeah, I think Brazil at the moment is having a tough mental game.

They clearly have the technical skills to be at the top, but their surprise lost at the second match might have done something to their minds.

This then affected the next games, and it spiraled down.

What Brazil needs now is a good leader, coach, captain, etc. Fixing their mental health will make them go straight to the top.

If they continue like this, without fixing their mindset, they might even not qualify for the world cup. And that would be the first time in history that happens. And yeah, that's a lot of responsibility for these boys.
806  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 27, 2023, 01:52:21 AM
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That is true, I agree with that as well. When you have a lot more money than someone else, you have a lot more chances to chase the loss as well. I understand that it may not look like there isn't one but I think it's obvious that they could do a lot better. I know that we can't really make it change up all that much, and we need to figure out how we could end up with something that will benefit the situation. Think about it, if you have a lol more money then it also means that you have a lot more to lose.

This isn't some "poor persons wish type of thing, I just believe that if you gamble with 100 bucks because you are poor, that means 100 bucks is all you can lose, but if you are rich, then you can gamble with 1 million, and lose all of that.

At the end of the day what matters is the odds in the game.

Whatever amount of money you gamble is not relevant to see if you end up winning or losing.

Actually, if you are rich you can end up losing more money.

In the end, the amount of money you have at the start can be seen simply as a multiplier.

If you assume your initial amount of money is 1, then you gamble for some time, the expected return of that number will be negative.

It doesn't matter if you have more or less, the end result is that you will most probably lose money. The amount will depend on how much you pay.
807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 27, 2023, 01:49:36 AM
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That's right, unemployed people want to make money from gambling. Everyone thinks that gambling is the fastest way to make money without affecting any factors. If they commit theft, robbery is also a way to make money quickly, but if they take too much risk, the law will punish them. Making money from gambling will not be monitored by the law.
But they are wrong, and gambling is not a job for them to make money. They will increasingly burn all their savings on gambling, and gambling addiction will make them worse than when they are unemployed. The percentage of winners in gambling is tiny. Only lucky people get rewards in this game.

Yeah, and even when someone does win, they usually keep playing until they lose it all.

Even most lottery winners seem to end up losing their money.
808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 27, 2023, 01:48:32 AM
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Gambling places are not for steady income, if you want steady income with gambling, online or offline, you have to be an owner, you need to build your own casino, and watch yourself growing up into a filthy rich billionaire in the world.

Online casinos are places where it's certain that you will lose your money, it's a places where you need to be mentality sane to at least have a good ride and experience as you progress, it's not always about making money with gambling, it's always about not ending up running insane because of gambling.

So, I think gambling is not a short cut to be rich overnight. Nobody should so much addict with gambling as much as playing game physically.

Yeah, it's the logical conclusion.

But, there is the fact that gambling provides the hope for some people that they will be able to win a lot of money.

This is why it's so popular, even when it doesn't make sense rationally. It's the hope that these people are buying.
809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: November 27, 2023, 01:47:08 AM
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When we do a job that requires us to spend 8 hours a day or at least that, it is obvious that they will ask us to completely concentrate on the work, where we cannot relax Under any circumstances, for that reason we must be very attentive slots on what we want, how we want it, because you cannot take out a cell phone to play in a casino during work hours, where they need the worker to have his concentration to the maximum, therefore in this order of days we must be very determining , firstly we need to be attentive to everything that can be done at a given time, whether good or bad, we need to do whatever it takes so that we can have a way of seeing work as something sacred that is Respected, now we do have a field work, where we are on the street working, well that's another thing, because when we travel we can play in an online casino.

Yeah, it depends on the job. Many office workers tend to use their time at social media sites like Facebook, etc. So I guess many of them would also just gamble as well.

I'm not sure if that affects too much their performance as usually they do this when there's not much else to do.
810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot games are a waste of time and money (most of the time) on: November 26, 2023, 01:08:25 AM
Yeah, I personally feel that slot games are a complete waste of time and money most of the time, I got this bonus from btcgosu's partnership with BetFury which awarded me a 77 free spins.

Bonus is still available for anyone to claim on https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/unleash-the-black-friday-magic-get-77-free-spins-with-code-gosu77-at-betfury/

I played slot game with the free spin and ended up with a total win of $16, but also hammered with a wager requirement of about $750 before I did be able to withdraw.

I continued playing slot with the $16, and soon, I had up to $55 in total amount won, I was really happy and hopeful that before I did lose all $55, I would have won much to enable me complete the wager requirement and possibly walk out in profit.

But unfortunately, I ended up losing the entire $55 dollar while I still had about $582 dollar in wager requirement, I am not confident enough to deposit and continue chasing, so I'm giving up.

I've never been lucky with slot games, never, and I am not pleased about it to be honest.
What about you?

The truth is that gambling companies will always get the money the gamblers put it, even including all the free bonuses they add.

They simply make these applications very addictive and fun to play, so that gamblers keep coming back for more. That's what the casinos want of course, because the longer you stay, the more money you gamble, and the more certain it is that the casino will keep your money.
811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 26, 2023, 01:00:46 AM
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Brazil did not perform well in this match and I think the recent performance of Brazil has not been very good as well. They have lost 3 matches in a row if I am not wrong. And that is just not good. They are a better team than just giving excuses. They should own up to their mistakes and should say that even though the performance has not been good in recent times and a lot of players are unavailable they are going to bring in better results in future games. That's what people want to hear and that's what they should do for sure.

These are the latest qualification results for Brazil:

Brazil 5-1 Bolivia

Peru 0-1 Brazil

Brazil 1-1 Venezuela

Uruguay 2-0 Brazil

Colombia 2-1 Brazil

Brazil 0-1 Argentina

Yes, it all started as usual with a massive win for Brazil, but then a surprise lost match against Peru started everything. They then went to draw with Venezuela, which is arguably the weakest in the region, and then went on to lose three consecutive matches.

I don't think Brazil has ever performed this poorly at any previous qualifier.

We'll see if they can come back against Ecuador
812  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 26, 2023, 12:55:38 AM
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that's the advantage of high rollers. they don't worry about the money that they are throwing for their bets. so they can easily place a higher amount of bet if they really have that notion of winning. and this route is so difficult to follow by just ordinary bettors. one or two bets, they can easily get rekt. in short, these rich gamblers can continue betting if they want to. small time bettors should not imitate these high rollers because they are subjecting themselves to financial trouble.

Most games would have a maximum bet, so even the richest person cannot go past that.

Also, it only takes one bad game and the entire money is out.

The games in casinos have the odds favorable to them, so in the end casinos will always win, no matter how big or small the bets are.
813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 26, 2023, 12:54:09 AM
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What you are talking about is also a sort of help being provided by the family, so we can't say that families can't do anything because the first group of people that would want someone to get out a problem would be the family of that person because there are blood relations in a family and no mother, father, brother, sister, or even wife and children would want their beloved to be stuck in a problem but if he does, the family will always be there for him.

So, if a person admits in front of their family that they are addicted to gambling and that they are spending a lot of time and money on it but they are tired of it and they want to get rid of the addiction. I'm pretty sure that any family would become ready to do anything they can to get the guy out of the problem.

Yes, and in that example the gambler decided they want to stop. That's the key first step to make.

Then there is the supporting network, which is also key in keeping addictions away.

That gambler in the example you posted would have good chances to stay away from gambling in the future.
814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 26, 2023, 12:52:00 AM
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more and more I see that it comes to having a good support network
it makes a big difference to be able to have people you can trust and you can share personal information and vulnerabilities
in the end of the day we don't go through life alone.

Yes, I read somewhere that drug addicts can recover much faster and not go back to drugs if they had a healthy network of family and friends around them to support them.

The addiction itself is powerful, but the social bonds are even more powerful.

It's great to know there is hope for everyone.
815  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is It Late To Invest In Bitcoin? on: November 25, 2023, 01:58:23 AM
I am a 20-year-old student. Not long ago, I heard a famous cryptocurrency expert in Korea on YouTube.

He said, "Bitcoin investment seems to be late, to be honest. I'm sad, too. I think 2018 was the last chance for ordinary people."

This makes me feel depressed. That expert started investing in bitcoin in 2013, and he encouraged his acquaintances to invest in bitcoin, but at that time he said everyone thought he was crazy.

Honestly, as an ordinary college student, the price of bitcoin now feels too much to buy.. If it's the price of the early 2010s, I might have bought it through a part-time job..

I'm so pathetic and depressed because I didn't know Bitcoin quickly. What should I do? Cry

Why does it matter to you how much one unit of Bitcoin costs today?

If you think the fundamentals of Bitcoin are solid, it will be more valuable in the future compared to today.

How much fiat would you have paid in 2010 for Bitcoin? just buy that amount today.
816  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 25, 2023, 01:50:45 AM
I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.

First, I'm not sure that is actually true, as it's all just math behind it all.

But, there are different odds at different games. Some are really bad for the gambler.

So, based on that, I could guess that rich people care more about not losing money, so they pay more attention to the odds. That way, they only play games with better odds, while poor people would just play anything, leading to worse outcomes because of the worse odds.

That's just my educated guess though, but I think it might make some sense.
817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 25, 2023, 01:47:51 AM
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There are some people out there that cannot understand their lives without their addiction, and the only way they will stop is if they are unable to get physical access to the source of their addiction, however even those that end up setting foot on jail may still find a way to keep their addiction going.

After all even if the inside of a jail is supposed to be an environment that is highly restricted, prisoners still find a way to get gamble or even to introduce illegal drugs inside the prison.

Well, the quote "you are what you do" is actually quite true.

Whatever behaviors and actions you perform frequently, is basically what your life is.

So, if you keep gambling continually, then you are a gambler, literally.

You can always change your life, day by day, by changing what you do today. And tomorrow. And the next day.
818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 25, 2023, 01:46:00 AM
Im gonna said this one more time, this next world cup, is gonna be pure show, this new format is a shit for performance, only in late stages we are gonna see good matches, the new one is pure capitalism and commercial things a new machine to make money, more teams (no matter his level) more games, more people watching the games, so for me the world cup of footballs tart to loose some quality right now.

I'm not too sure about that.

In my mind the next world cup will basically have a longer qualification period. That is, the first few matches of the world cup could be seen as qualification matches.

Those are still fun to watch, and they might be able to do something interesting with it, as a kind of inter-conference qualification for the next round for example. That could be fun to watch.
819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: November 25, 2023, 01:44:11 AM
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Most online casinos do have a track record of how much you have spent gambling in a particular month or over the week so if you want to at anytime check through the records you could go to history and find a full track record of how much you have spent over a period of time.

Keeping track record of how much you have spent gambling over a period of time will most likely get you to chasing losses, it will be much better if you make a budget monthly or weekly and keep to it, that way without going through the records, you will know how much you have spent so far and you will not be pushed to chasing losses because already you had had in mind to forfeit such amount if it turns out that way and you have lesser chances of chasing losses.

Yeah, in my mind the behavior of trying to recover losses is probably the most negative one in gambling.

I think doing that actually might leave the gambler bankrupt faster than any other behavior.
820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 25, 2023, 01:42:36 AM
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First of all gambling is not a job. NOOO! The definition is is right but your example isn't. I am referring to traditional jobs. I these jobs you do the work and get paid for your hardship. There is no risks or negative income involved. Payments can vary sometimes because of situation but there will always be a positive income. But in gambling I don't even know if ill win it all or loss it it. It's a risk of ones life. It cannot be seen as a job. Jobs gives us economic stability. Gambling also does but there is no guarantee of it.

Gambling most probably will not give you financial stability. A gambler simply pays a fee to see if they might get a positive return in their investment.

The issue is that the expected return of that investment is negative. That means that most gamblers will lose money. The vast majority of them.
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