selling my 476.85 xpy in my windows wallet today had enough of this.They cost me about just over $4 mining the points so not out that much but its just drifting downwards everyday.Taking the Btc I get and going to invest in this Ziftr coin probably going from the frying pan to the fire who knows.
Buying XPY feels like stealing water from African kids.
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(because my chief responsibility is to perform my duties as a CEO), I look forward to our debate. What duties does he have? He moderates and bans people from hashtalk all day and answer shill questions.
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I also thought that most of the cultish braindead remarks from people over there must be from shill accounts. Actually , most of them turn out to be real people. I have checked many dozens of accounts after reading things thinking this has to be a shill, and then you check the account and they have been posting for months about all kinds of things, complete with active FB pages and such and are in fact real people (cult zombies). From what I have seen only maybe 1/10 of the "Buy Paycoin and HOLD! To the Moon! We LOVE YOU JOSH" posters turns out to be an obvious shill account. SCARY!
Did Josh recruit these people from various churches and/or mental institutions? I'm being serious here, What if Josh bought a email lists of mental patients from various hospitals in the USA and spammed them all with Paycoin? What if he has huge email lists of 'life churches' and promised them a second life if they support his company? No is no other explanation for being so fucking stupid.
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This guy here is going to be banned shortly , I would suspect... Josh: " I challenge you to a debate, Andrew!" Andrew: "Challenge accepted. Lets do it" Josh: "Did I say debate?? Oh I meant send me some questions and I will have some SmaRt PeEple come up with some snakey non-answers" What is wrong with these morons who worship this shitbag? Exactly. Scott- Hey i'm BCT famous! I've been watching this thread since like page 100. Just to clarify, i'm not a shitbag that worships the moron Josh. I've actively argued against him several times and I pretty much agree this is a ponzi and that Josh needs to stop running his mouth with announcements. I should have said something like "Why are more people on HT not asking questions like this guy, instead of worshiping this shitbag (Josh)". You are obviously one of the few people over there that questions what is going on, and I apologize for lumping you in with the mindless multitudes. Its clear that 80% of users on hashtalk are: A) Shills from India paid by Gawminers to positively post 5x daily for a set fee. B) Automated bots C) Gawminer employees have 5 shill accounts each and it is part of their job to post shill comments all day. D) People are actually dumbfounded and don't know their left from their right. E) A to C I pick E.
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You wonder why he owns his own forum? He has bots shilling for them.
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This is EXACTLY what the SEC and other financial authorities would like to hear...: "...We will move the market ourselves ..." ... VERY NICE shot in the leg, Retard ...I mean Homero... Clear case of Documented Market Manipulation... ZiG The SEC might not care about a virtual market though. I'm not defending GAW, but the law is trailing so far behind, PayCoin might as well be the equivalent of in-game gold in an RPG, baseball cards, coupons, or bottlecaps. They might not really care about a new virtual currency... They might get a slap on the wrist for being a money transmitter, if they didn't have that license with FINCEN. If GAW created the market and a virtual currency, that's not much different than selling parker brothers monopoly money on ebay. There's a thread somewhere around here about reporting them as a ponzi, that would probably carry the most weight and get the most attention from the feds to be taken seriously. Actually they do care and have started clamping down on cryptos. All of the scams and all of the complaints have done this. Fraudsters, Sleazy Devs, and Pump and Dumpers have brought this on. There is a shitstorm on the horizon and when it hits it will not be pretty. Most of these ICO, IPO, and crowdfunded coins should have been registered with the SEC or attempted to skirt it with legaleeze (up for debate if it will pass the SEC sniff test - will probably be a court challenge sometime in the future) http://cointelegraph.com/news/113258/appcoins-crypto-crowdfunding-and-the-potential-sec-regulation-pitfallIt's a shitstorm Randy! The shit-hawks are circling overhead! I'm bringing in the Green Bastard from points unknown! You mean,this guy Hulk!! Smash Josh!!! No I mean this guy: here he is in action: http://youtu.be/a_dVdhNgwrc?t=1m48sBest show ever, I think I watched every episode over 10x each lol.
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I was also told my coinfire that they picked up papers from the SEC yesterday in regards to Gawminers.
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At the begining of the week two people bought between them 150btc of paycoin through paybase not one of these trades went thru any exchange
So? so josh said buys thru paybase would be from exchanges but there not so where are all these xpy coming from. Josh and his scam crew have to collect their 6 figure + salaries. They aren't getting their salaries from sitting on the XPY, they're getting it from scamming people into hashstakers and dumping XPY.
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Still no-one on hashtalk concerned with 3000%+ annual staking rate potential with the revolutionary Prime Controllers. I can't get my head around how the GAW followers maintain their confidence. Wallet still staking at 3000%+ https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?119166.htmThey aren't concerned, they have learning disabilities. Its like teaching calculus to a 5 year old. I honestly feel bad for them.
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"To be perfectly honest at this point in time GAW most probably is already buying up cheap xpy every now and then just like the rest of us." Gawminers has 12,000,000 XPY and they're MOST LIKELY dumping 1,000 at a time to these fools on the exchanges. I feel bad for this guy, he must have a learning disability. He probably didn't have a classroom assistant while in school. I'm not trying to judge or be mean but these people most all be high school drop outs that live with their parents and can't tell their left from their right. Its either that or they're paid shrill accounts. All hope is lost, you put the evidence right in front of their face and they still buy into the lies. Its like fighting a religion, no one ever wins. I give up. I hope someone stands up for the bitcoin community one day and gets rid of Gawminers & Paycoin. Would be nice to see some progress in the next coming month when I check back. Chow.
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What I hate is that if Josh gets away with this scam, EVERYONE is going to replicate it and push their luck like Josh did to scam others. Apparently you can clearly scam people in cryptocurrency and get away with it.
Cryptocurrency will die with scammers like Josh involved.. stealing everyone's BTC and dumping them daily.
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I would suggest that if you want cheap XPY buy now, some whales and large customers have put buy walls in, I follow the money and so should U
Stop begging people to help feed your ponzi. Actively knowing a product is a ponzi and you need new investors to feed it should be illegal on its own.
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why are you betting so hard on these guys?
I don't know because the idea of a complete platform appeals to me. Because this is the first cloud staking platform? I mined a block of BTC in 2010 and promptly forgot about it until it spiked in november 2013 I have invested these in numerous stuff and never got any good return from it. I bought a hosted war machine from GAW for $6999 in BTC and when the price dropped the next day I complained and got a partial refund for that. Then came the hashlets and the return was good. it went downhill from there because of diff changes and BTC price tanking. I already had a break even and reinvested everything again. I really don't care If I get any return from this but I like the idea of cloud staking and the direction that GAW is going. You sound like a knowledgable IT guy to me. Can't you tell these guys barely know what the fuck they're doing and I'm not talking about any of the "failed promise" antics, I'm just talking purely from a technical perspective: they are absolutely incompetent.
I mean, what did you really think of that pathetic Paybase release?
Zencloud first. They made bad choices about the platform From what I can see this is based on nodejs. Now I did some developement in nodejs and could see immediately that the single thread stuff would cause large problems with performance unless very strong measures where taken like running multiple instances and very big load balancing. Second bad choise was the DB backend I suspect from all the errors and mistakes they are using nosql instead of a proper transactional DB. nosql and relations are a big nono it takes too much programing to maintain referential integrity. I think they finally changed the DB backend a few months ago and since then it has been stable. But it is still nodejs. Paybase is supposedly developed by an outside company they choose PHP as a frontend so I expect them to use something more stable and more robust as a backend mysql or postgresql. Paybase is by no means complete or what it should have been it feels like something thrown together at the last minute. (Indie developers?) They are really young in development and implementation but they are learning fast. And they are trying to do good for their customers even though they make a lot of mistakes. Developers "really young in development and implementation" are not getting $100M in backing. People putting up big dollars have people w/ lots of relevant credentials to conduct techy due diligence before forking over cash. Why do you think they have $100M in backing? Because Josh says so? Maybe they made some money by selling all the hardware that belonged to the people who were mining over there, but no way this can ever be $100M. In Gawminers and Zen cloud TOS it states that they can say anything and you shall not rely on it. Josh will lie about anything and everything to scam more money out of people. It looks like its all going to fall on him soon though.
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Josh is a master scammer who's going to jail very soon. They dont treat scammers nicely in jail either.
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Good way to get BTC via CC Just dump that shit xpy.
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Short on time again today, but will share some resources in hopes of other people taking the reins. One of my favorite sleuthing tools is Web Boar (webboar.com). There, you can search by name, phone number, email address, web address, etc. Playing around on the site, you can find a lot of interesting info (i.e., the 130+ domains registered to JG, etc.). I started looking at ZenMiner.com a few days back. Kinda interesting if you google search phone numbers and email addys that are produced by searching webboar. http://www.webboar.com/whois/zenminer.com https://whoisology.com/archive_8/zenminer.comRegistered by clovato@gmail.comHis other websited include http://christopherlovato.com/Software Test Architect / DevOps Zenminer and Eric's history is a whole different can of worms. Do some research.
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Proof its him: http://www.cogmap.com/chart/josg21/public/gaw-high-speedhttp://profileengine.com/people/josg21/josh.garzahttps://whoisology.com/archive_8/flepit.com All his domains: https://whoisology.com/name/archive_8/josh+garzahttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=172454josg21 Jr. Member *
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View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore Scrypt Mining is fun for the whole family! March 15, 2014, 03:09:36 PM Reply with quote #1 We have a pretty large farm, and we were adding more miners yesterday. As you guys know, the name of the game is speed. So we had the whole family help jmordica Member **
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View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: -4: -1 / +0(0) Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Ignore Re: Scrypt Mining- A family event March 15, 2014, 03:26:48 PM Reply with quote #2 Awesome Josh! Your family was a huge help! Good times. https://bitcointa.lk/threads/gaw-miner-very-very-ugly-situation.322364/Also, I'm very curious what this BTC wallet address is all about: 1KQxLLQNxgn2upd4TtGbtiRdm3f5UWC9k8 Blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1KQxLLQNxgn2upd4TtGbtiRdm3f5UWC9k8?offset=750&filter=0It's the one that GAW gives out in their instructions for how to setup your miner. Interesting this stuff. It starts getting payments on 3/11/2014. Small amounts, less than 1BTC, coming in in the trickle we know from things like mining pools. Over time the amounts slowly increase in size as well as speed with which they are generating income. Since 3/11, this operation has netted over 927 BTC. All the outputs look like they are getting sent through a mixing service, the chains just go on and on if you start following where single payments go. Some to wallets that haven't been touched yet, some to ones that are still very fresh and unmixed. ... Another user sent this to me off their fresh, pre-Zen Fury: "/opt/cgminer/cgminer_conf/cgminer01.conf: which on mine had : "pools" : [ { "url" : "stratum+tcp://ltc.ghash.io:3333", "user" : " josg21.bla", "pass" : "x" } ] ," You can't publicly check a ghash account that I know of, but that looks like it could be someone's name... If you get a Fury, please check the preconfigured file on it. I know mine was pointed to Clevermining but did not think to take a picture of the address, but I'm wondering if it is the one way above. In the end, I'm curious if miners were pointed at this pre-configured address, which would indicate either they gave us the wallet address of their private farm by blindly copying a config file... or our miners were pointed at this address for any amount of time, meaning all hardware isn't just burned in, it was used for profit.
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Evidence: facebook.com/josg21
LOL
*edit.. he deleted his facebook His facebook username was josg21
He is removing all evidence.
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