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801  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: July 21, 2017, 05:04:31 AM
If they simply made the bonus conditions such that one wagered their own balance before the bonus, then all would be well and this situation would be over.
But I don't think the one who 'lost' his balance would agree without getting anything
But they didn't lose, they won.
The only mistake the user made was trying to cancel their bonus.
Now I understand taking away the bonus when it's canceled, I also understand taking away profit made from the bonus.
But taking away the initial deposit as well? Now that's a bit harsh.

Indeed my point is same. Taking away initial deposit is just not fair at all. That's some shady thing they have done.

A bonus with dice is different then a different then other casino games. You have to prevent that users can make a loop. As said before, I don't know if this is the best way but this is how it works now. If an user don't read all the pop-ups on cancelling, it isn't the site who is scamming.
802  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular, Oldest & Trusted | Huge Community | Free BTC | 🎂 on: July 20, 2017, 12:16:47 PM
Progame is at it again! Lucky bastard made around 20 btc today, and 33 this week:

https://image.prntscr.com/image/eS0CiXfJQiWXfD7xzkRGvQ.png
Wow that's an awesome win, x582 payout that's huge. congrats progame. his overall profit is 20 BTC(https://www.pdstats.co/u/Progame). he must've gone in to negative profit to positive.

And what about his alts. He had an other alt HuckandFuck or so? That one was deep into negative last time I was online.
803  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST play/invest, WAGERING COMPETITION, 15 prizes has started on: July 19, 2017, 07:46:21 AM
How much time does it normally take for a batch withdraw? I selected this option because 120k for a direct withdraw is way too much fee these days.
804  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 12 BILLION BETS🎁Most Popular Dice & Roulette🎁 on: July 19, 2017, 05:51:53 AM
Is there any way to get more than 10% affiliate commission?

I have referred more than 1300 users



Thanks

More than 1300 users and your affiliate earning is only 2mbtc so far? Wondering how many of them are real players, from the amount you get so I guess that most of them are just faucet users or even only register without even playing. How about your affiliate earning in altcoins? Better than what you get in bitcoin or not?


Maybe a bot used his reflink. I had that on an other site. Got 98k refs there within a few minutes.didn't knew what was happening.
805  Economy / Speculation / Re: where are you keeping your coins (1 aug) on: July 18, 2017, 11:48:42 AM
I have also put my BTC into paper wallets.
806  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Duckdice.io [SCAM and SHADY behavior] on: July 18, 2017, 04:45:14 AM
1. Bonus algorithm:

You may not like our Bonus algorithm and if you don't like it no one is forcing you to claim it. Users are notified about exact amount that will be subtracted from the balance and there is a specially designed confirmation screen where user confirm and agree with this. DuckDice shall not be liable for users who don't read confirmation screens.

First of all, it wasn't outlined in your terms about how the entire balance was canceled. When a user claims the bonus, it's too late to go back and they are forced to wager 110x or just simply lose their entire balance. That is misleading. In that case, why put a cancel button there in the first place if it's just going to make them lose all their funds?



2. Refund:

There is nothing shady or scammy, it is user's responsibility to read confirmation messages. Better make a thread and ask how many members won big with our bonuses.

Suppose you deposit at my site with 1 BTC but when you withdraw I tell you that you are forced to tip 50% of all your winnings to a random chat member otherwise the balance is taken. You can not make rules appear after the fact when they are not outlined in your terms. That is simply unethical.

If you claim the bonus and cancel it directly you still got your initial deposit. The locked balance grows while wagering.
807  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: July 16, 2017, 04:38:56 PM


Yeah, adding more detail terms about the "bonus cancellation" will be good for both players and duckdice. Terms like what will happen if a player decide to cancel the bonus when....(may happen in some scenarios)
One more thing that I missed from this deposit bonus terms, if a player take the bonus so which balance will be used first? The initial deposit first or the bonus first?

Just adding a 'last-warning' or one more confirmatory pop-up would do it.

Regarding you question about the bonus, if you deposit 1 btc and activated bonus(120% bonus for example), your total starting balance will be 2.2btc. So both original depo and bonus are used at the same time

There is an extra popup with a notification how much you lose after cancelling. If people just don't read and click OK, then it's not duckdice who scams.

What I mean is an extra confirmatory pop-up on top of the existing one.

Something that would put duckdice in a better position because with this feature that I am suggesting, a player cannot just say it is just mis-clicked or so.

Here you can find screenshots of the pop-ups. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2022797.msg20166979#msg20166979

If you miss that as an user, they better shutdown the computer and see an eye doctor.
808  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: July 16, 2017, 04:21:26 PM


Yeah, adding more detail terms about the "bonus cancellation" will be good for both players and duckdice. Terms like what will happen if a player decide to cancel the bonus when....(may happen in some scenarios)
One more thing that I missed from this deposit bonus terms, if a player take the bonus so which balance will be used first? The initial deposit first or the bonus first?

Just adding a 'last-warning' or one more confirmatory pop-up would do it.

Regarding you question about the bonus, if you deposit 1 btc and activated bonus(120% bonus for example), your total starting balance will be 2.2btc. So both original depo and bonus are used at the same time

There is an extra popup with a notification how much you lose after cancelling. If people just don't read and click OK, then it's not duckdice who scams.
809  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Duckdice.io [SCAM and SHADY behavior] on: July 16, 2017, 04:19:28 PM
If you only cancel the profit, people can just keep playing with the bonus. Site would be bankrupt in a day.

If that was so I would deposit 1btc, take the reload bonus so I have 1.5 btc. Make 5 bets of 0.1 on 100x. If I don't hit, I withdraw and deposit again and start over. Best way is just to remove the cancel button. People just don't read.

The problem here is not Duckdice but just an user that don't read well.

There should be no reason to cancel the entire balance. You're essentially - without the user's prior knowledge - forcing them to go all or nothing on the bonuses. And considering the fact that you have to have the entire bankroll bet 110x, it's a difficult feat.

If you want to punish users by losing part of the bonus balance, then do a simple split based on the bonus %.

In your scenario of 1 BTC and 0.5 BTC bonus, have every wager split 2:1 in terms of deposit and bonus, disregarding any profit upon cancellation.

Note that also, your reload bonus is claimed a maximum of twice a day.



And really, the only reason you make each bet count for 50% of the wagering requirement is to make the actual wager number (110x) look smaller: 55x.

110x isn't even that hard. It must be over 100x due the house edge. Everything below the 100x would allow users just to wager and loose the hotels edge and still end up with profit without any risk.

810  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Duckdice.io [SCAM and SHADY behavior] on: July 16, 2017, 02:59:13 PM
[Archive]

It is unethical to take away both the bonus balance and the original balance if a user has not completed it.

I do not understand why you would do such a thing. Additionally, the message you had in the bonus cancellation screen (and what you have said) was that you only cancel the profit.

so technically your profit was still locked, that's the whole purpose of wagering – to make winnings a part of your balance you have to meet wagering requirements.

Hence, if you are falsely advertising the amount that is deducted from a player's balance, then that is straight-up scamming them.



I have already talked about forcing a player to complete the bonus, so you can read my reply from above:

Terms archived, by the way.

Here's the scenario.

You deposit a significant sum of money into the site with a bonus. The terms seem clear and they even state that you can cancel the bonus at any time. Hence you would expect it to deduct any winnings from the bonus (and for losses, it would not refund you)

You should not, under any circumstances, force the gambler to bet through the entire 55x wager requirement. For this site, you ARE forced because otherwise you will lose your balance. That is unacceptable conduct.



By not highlighting the risk of the bonus beforehand, you are essentially stealing their money: 55x is no small feat, considering you essentially need to bet your full deposit + bonus 110 times as per their rules. Even with a 98% win chance, that's a 10.83% success rate of getting through the requirement.

If you only cancel the profit, people can just keep playing with the bonus. Site would be bankrupt in a day.

If that was so I would deposit 1btc, take the reload bonus so I have 1.5 btc. Make 5 bets of 0.1 on 100x. If I don't hit, I withdraw and deposit again and start over. Best way is just to remove the cancel button. People just don't read.

The problem here is not Duckdice but just an user that don't read well.
811  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Duckdice.io [SCAM and SHADY behavior] on: July 16, 2017, 07:39:51 AM
if every site let you play with bonus with rules that you can cancel it whenever you bust your bonus without sacrificing your original deposit. all gamblers will do this all over again. The result of your actions is solely done by yourself. it is clearly stated (there's a warning before bonus cancellation) that you will have the "x amount" of deduction from your balance. how is this possible for you to blame the site?

This.

If you got such a profit and cancel without reading I don't see why to blame the site. With such profit, just start to make a lot of bets without increasing bet size on loss. You would just lose the house edge and will end up with still a huge profit.

If he just played on the bonus and cleared it, it would be a good site.
812  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: July 15, 2017, 06:46:00 PM
there are some accusations ,or rather, suspicion of your,duckdice owner,connection with cryptogames.io
that has been ,allegedly,trying to scam gamblers,so if you could shed some light on this matter,please:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1979817



That was already clear they just use a ref link to earn some. Has nothing to do with duckdice.

This is just a problem of someone cancelling a bonus and didn't read the message well. Nothing do do with scamming, just with bad reading.
813  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: July 15, 2017, 06:34:20 PM
I am the biggest winner in duckdice.io  Their shady feature made me cancel my 9 BITCOIN balance and the admin didn't help.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2022797.0

So you cancelled the bonus without reading the warning ?? What did you expect? That you got your original deposit?? If they do that everyone just wager the bonus and cancel when they don't hit big and withdraw on deposit again and try again.
814  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Primedice? on: July 13, 2017, 07:34:41 AM
Better make a support ticket. Works a lot faster then a topic on this forum.
815  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular, Oldest & Trusted | Huge Community | Free BTC | 🎂 on: July 11, 2017, 06:37:05 AM
I've visited this site and played, and my friends who visited here tell me about this site to me, quite interesting and have a uniqueness / different from other sites. Hopefully more developed and more interesting things again here until many more visitors who come to this site. Success continues for Primedice.

What is so interesting and unique of it? It's still the same like 2 years ago and all other dicesites got a lot of more features.
816  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: July 08, 2017, 03:20:26 PM

200% DEPOSIT BONUS PROMO IS ON!
3 DAYS ONLY!

How to get:
1. Make a deposit that equal or greater than 0.01BTC equivalent in any currency.
2. Send us your username here via PM.
3. We will check if your deposit is still untouched and will credit your bonus ASAP.

Rules:
1. Bonus can be claimed once per day.
2. Wager x55 and wagering contribution is 50% from bet amount.
3. Bonus will expire in 30 days.

Hop in and good luck to all!

Another great promotion by you!

I just have a question how to do count wager and multipliers. For example if i bet 0.1 btc on 98% chance how this will be counted to the bonus?

Thank you

Counts the same as 0.1 on 2%. The multiplier doesn't have any effect on the wagering
817  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: July 07, 2017, 06:38:23 PM

200% DEPOSIT BONUS PROMO IS ON!
3 DAYS ONLY!

How to get:
1. Make a deposit that equal or greater than 0.01BTC equivalent in any currency.
2. Send us your username here via PM.
3. We will check if your deposit is still untouched and will credit your bonus ASAP.

Rules:
1. Bonus can be claimed once per day.
2. Wager x55 and wagering contribution is 50% from bet amount.
3. Bonus will expire in 30 days.

Hop in and good luck to all!

username: CntryBoy
PM sent

They may activate it depending on their office hours.
It will be a manual activation I think.

It's manual indeed.
818  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 0.1btc bonus | gooddice.us on: July 06, 2017, 06:12:19 PM
Please stop bumping this topic.
819  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular, Oldest & Trusted | Huge Community | Free BTC | 🎂 on: July 05, 2017, 11:47:57 AM
Is the forum down or is it just me?
820  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 11 BILLION BETS🎁Most Popular Dice & Roulette🎁 on: July 05, 2017, 10:10:39 AM
I just withdrawed some BURST but after 20 min the withdraw doesn't show up in the wallet and it isn't also in the logs. Is it normal it take a while with BURST. It's my first BURST withdraw so just don't know it.

Not in my wallet yet but it is in the withdraw log but there is a bug in it.



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