Lol. Where is my thirty pieces of silver? You doing nothing wrong is arguable. What you did wrong has been established: you tried to cheaply buy feedback to bolster your rep and some people see this behaviour as making you untrustworthy and warranting a warning via the feedback system. You must realise what you did wrong because it's in your own logic. You wanted that feedback to appear trustworthy, but any feedback you may have received this way wouldn't have made you trustworthy at all because of the very fact that you just bought it for $5 so people were warning others of that because they see it as unscrupulous or untrustworthy behaviour.

You can't, that's why you shouldn't use it and pretty much everyone gets treated with suspicion when they do because of the chargeback issue. I'd forget about trying to use PayPal all together here.

And you do this by being trustworthy and earning reputation over time. Why do you think someone would think you were reputable when they click on your feedback and see the only feedback you have is for doing a couple of $5 PayPal trades? Anyone with an ounce of common sense would see this for what it was and it certainly doesn't make you trustable or a man of his word. I often see people with a few green trusted feedback then look at their feedback and see it's for stuff that doesn't make them trustworthy at all so having feedback doesnt mean you are trustworthy, especially when scammers with half a brain will try get feedback as fast and as cheaply as they can for the same reasons: to appear trustworthy, so that's why this is wrong on so many levels and you quite rightly got called out for it regardless of how honest your intentions were.

But you're still not getting it. This isn't about winning an argument but making you see where you went wrong and why having feedback doesn't make you reputable or trustworthy. Doing deals with reputable members merely for their trust does not make you reputable or trustworthy, especially when this is all you wanted their feedback for. If you had've got a few green trust from Hero members would that then make you more reputable or trustworthy than me for example (who currently has zero 'green' feedback)? No. If I went and got 5 green trust feedbacks right now from five different members for buying $1 worth of PayPal would that make me very trustable? No. The argument and logic here is simple regardless of whether you are a genuine person or not, you just went about getting feedback the very wrong way and it backfired.

What agenda do we have exactly?  You are in a no-win situation though because what we are saying is right. What you did wrong was attempt to bolster your rep or trustworthiness by trying to buy trusted feedback. Once you had acquired some green feedback you would've more than likely touted yourself as 'trustworthy' based on this. I get it, you wanted some feedback to give yourself some prestige or credibility, and I'm sure most of us would like lots of trusted feedback, but you went about getting it in completely the wrong way and for the all the wrong reasons. Calling people 'faggots' doesn't do you any favours and you probably could've got rid of the neg feedback or at least proved to us you were genuine and just made a mistake but it's probably too late for that now.

Dude, seriously, how are you not getting this? I'm not twisting your words because you stated exactly why you wanted the feedback for several times. How the hell does making a $5 trade make you trustworthy? It doesn't. It means you traded $5. You specifically wanted to trade with trusted hero members and nobody else, thus you wanted 'green' reputable feedback for your five dollars aka you were trying to buy feedback and trust quickly and at minimal cost.

I'm not wrong and I'm not assuming you're up to no good. You're probably not, but you are being really naive. I know your mindset because you have stated it several times - you wanted trust to appear trustworthy and that in itself makes any trust you may have recieved worthless. You wanted to buy trust thus making it untrustworthy and essentially fraudulent by your own admission. If you want to gain trust go about it the same way everyone else does: they build it over time via genuine trades, they don't just try quickly buy it for $5. Someone even with 100 positive feedbacks for a 100 $5 Paypal trades wouldn't exactly be 'trusted' either. All that proves is you can be trusted with $5, doesn't mean you want scam as soon as someone sends you $10.


It's there if you go his profile.

Byte me? How old are you? You're really not doing yourself any favours here and are just justifying why not only the feedback is warranted bit why you shouldn't be trusted. People were trying to give you advice here and tell you where you fucked up but now you're just digging yourself deeper into a hole.


Lol. You just contradicted yourself there, but I get it, you're too stubborn to admit where you fucked up and went on the militant defensive and your attitude is now betraying your age. You really should try look at this from outside the box because you will see that what we're saying is right.

No, you can gain negative trust for what appears to be scammy or questionable behaviour. This guy by his own admission wanted the trust for one thing: to appear trustworthy whether he has good or bad intentions. He was attempting to buy trust and now he has a warning stating so as any positive trust he may have managed to buy obviously wouldn't mean anything.


You are a hypocrite for several reasons, whilst I have yet to contradict myself on this matter. The feedback doesn't say you're a scammer, it says you tried to purchase trust, which is what you've admitted to doing several times. Acting like a child throwing your toys out of the pram isn't doing yourself any favours. Acquiring trust is fine but you went about this completely the wrong way and the sooner you realise this the better.

And yet you don't realise the irony in this, so I'm not the 'retard' here. You want to appear trustworthy by buying feedback for $5 a pop via Paypal. How does that make you trustworthy? It makes you the exact opposite because you wanted that green feedback for one thing. You appear trustworthy by building up trust doing trustworthy things, not purposely seeking out reputable hero members to buy yourself feedback for $5.


  Yet again you prove to everyone why this negative you have received is completely valid. You establish the relationships first, that's how you get positive feedback that actually means something. How does this feedback mean anything when you wanted to buy it for $5? You think merely having green trust makes you trustworthy, when you yourself have just proved why it isn't.

What you did wrong was attempt to abuse the trust system and cheaply buy yourself some positive trust. How does that establish you as trustworthy? It doesn't. It makes you the exact opposite or at least arouses suspicion. You earn trust by being trustworthy, not trying to buy it. The feedback is completely valid because of this mindset. The fact that you think I'm bullying you for merely stating the truth and then call me a 'faggot ass' is laughable and yet again hypocritical.

Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite?

It wasn't just that though, was it?


You were quite blatant in what you were attempting to do. As others have said previously, attempting to quickly gain or buy positive trust is something scammers do and the feedback you received is now there as a warning to others who may take any positive feedback you recieve as a mark of being trustworthy when you are clearly not.

Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.

Says the guy trying to buy trust. He obviously felt what you were trying to do made you untrustworthy. You should just accumulate trust naturally, not set out to essentially buy it for whatever reason.

It doesn't look like a well thought out campaign to me. Seems like they rushed into it.

Probably just trying to attack and slander him in the worst way they can by tying his name / forum handle to paedophilia.

The only thing you'll be able to brag about is having negative feedback as this is a great way to get it. You're essentially just trying to cheaply buy trust, but I don't know why you would announce this.

You are aware that the chargeback window could be months, right?

2.8btc for an account is nuts. Unfortunately I think most people who buy accounts for that much probably want them for nefarious reasons. Can't see why they would pay that much otherwise. What are the alt coin deals? I don't go in the alt section much so not up to date with any of their campaigns. Is there a alt coin sig overview thread or something?