20k$ hand to hand or SEPA
=164btc, you'll have to do way better than that. Would prefer to move away from cash transactions, don't want the added risk. SEPA is fine, as is UKBT. .. my offer you refused was not too bad (205 BTC) .. and now you are crying .. sulky kid  How many places do you want to copy and paste your bullshit to increase your post count? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226676.msg2421769#msg2421769 |
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20k$ hand to hand or SEPA
=164btc, you'll have to do way better than that. Would prefer to move away from cash transactions, don't want the added risk. SEPA is fine, as is UKBT. .. my offer you refused was not too bad (205 BTC) .. and now you are crying .. sulky kid Everyone who actually wants to run an auction, add this guy to ignore list. He spams random numbers, withdraws offers in auctions (lol) then goes around flaming. |
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2800 € SEPA shipped to german address
Ignore him, fake bid. |
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No longer accepting auction price, BIN of 46.5 ONLY.
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It was worth the try. <Shrug>?
I honestly can say I've never seen someone so wiling to bring legal heat upon themselves  This is not normal. I hope we don't disappoint him. All I can continue to do is shake my head in disbelief at this entire situation, and the continued taunting, disbelief, and braggadocio only serves to steel my resolve in this matter further. Yeah tbh Xian, stop talking and pull the trigger. He clearly doesn't want to talk, let the lawyers sort it out now. |
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.. congratulations .. all blades sold .. you are a lucky guy .. indeed 4 haven't been paid for. I'm actually more than happy to hold atm, I won't leave for a few weeks. |
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Which is why I was failing at conveying that you can't add liability limitations into a sales contract, for a sale If I was him I'd still be worried even if he had the most perfect agent contract. Anyone can sue for anything and cause you major problems for years, even if there are no obvious grounds. Like the Jackson family suing the tour promotion company for billions for the alleged wrongdoings of the family doctor ^_^ Not to be rude, but I just want to clarify this. So you are stating that the sale of a service; is not a sale? It's evident to anyone who looks that we're acting as agent and the contract of sale is the contract of sale for our agent service; not a contract of sale for the device. Unless you're suggesting that DHL and Fedex have no taxable income (as they do not "sell" anything), then selling a service is still a sale. I'm not sure where you've got that from to translate to what I was trying to say, other than that's not what I'm saying. Unless you quoted the wrong post? This group buy was trying to design a sales of goods contract to not be a sale of goods by putting exclusion clauses in, which is impossible. If you would like to back peddle and argue about the definition of words, We'll have to go with simple questions in a simple format: If you sell a service is it a sale, yes or no? If you add a contract to the sale of a service, it is a sales contract, yes or no? Yes. Yes, but not in this case. The contract was specifically geared towards delivering a physical product in return for a payment. |
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In Personal Message Options in your profile: "Notify by email every time you receive a personal message: Always"? If that's set to always, then set up an email filter. noreply@bitcointalk.org to inbox, always. BOOM, ty, everything had been going to spam. Mermaid (John)'s computer must be chiming all fucking day. Yeah, my poor phone is chiming whole day long (and when I sleep) with the reports and PM's coming in like a crazy torrent. Then you wake up and its 'kay because its people giving you monies ^_^ |
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In Personal Message Options in your profile: "Notify by email every time you receive a personal message: Always"? If that's set to always, then set up an email filter. noreply@bitcointalk.org to inbox, always. BOOM, ty, everything had been going to spam. Mermaid (John)'s computer must be chiming all fucking day. |
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Which is why I was failing at conveying that you can't add liability limitations into a sales contract, for a sale If I was him I'd still be worried even if he had the most perfect agent contract. Anyone can sue for anything and cause you major problems for years, even if there are no obvious grounds. Like the Jackson family suing the tour promotion company for billions for the alleged wrongdoings of the family doctor ^_^ Not to be rude, but I just want to clarify this. So you are stating that the sale of a service; is not a sale? It's evident to anyone who looks that we're acting as agent and the contract of sale is the contract of sale for our agent service; not a contract of sale for the device. Unless you're suggesting that DHL and Fedex have no taxable income (as they do not "sell" anything), then selling a service is still a sale. I'm not sure where you've got that from to translate to what I was trying to say, other than that's not what I'm saying. Unless you quoted the wrong post? This group buy was trying to design a sales of goods contract to not be a sale of goods by putting exclusion clauses in, which is impossible. |
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You are offering a product, and you have a supplier. If your supplier scams you, its your responsibility. The buyers all bought a product from YOU, if YOU can't provide it then you have to refund them in full. Seriously, this entire thing is a disaster waiting to happen. If they turn out to be a scam, you'll be accountable for every penny.
Dogie, there's nothing in contract law disallowing principal-agent relationships. For the sake of clarity though that should be an express term of the contract. As long as the principal goes into it with their eyes open I can't see any problem. If BitCentury masqueraded as a seller and then later claimed only to be an agent when things went pear-shaped, THAT would be a problem and it would be "see you in court" time. Simply, this is not a sales contract and it should be amended to make that clear. Which is why I was failing at conveying that you can't add liability limitations into a sales contract, for a sale If I was him I'd still be worried even if he had the most perfect agent contract. Anyone can sue for anything and cause you major problems for years, even if there are no obvious grounds. Like the Jackson family suing the tour promotion company for billions for the alleged wrongdoings of the family doctor ^_^ |
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Funny. IF those are Global Foundries chips... why did they ever wait for shipments from China?
They did not? To be honest, none of those places other than NY have particularly faster transit times for ocean freight due to the INSANE volume going from China to the US. Its like a mail box that gets collected by the mail man every 5 minutes. |
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They got exactly 0 ASICS. Which is, at the time it all occurred, the same number of ASICs that were delivered by BFL, or anyone for that matter. The key difference is that Tom of bASIC tried to maintain complete transparency, so when things started to turn sour, it was very apparent that it was occurring. BFL's underhanded tactics on the other hand have muddied the waters so thoroughly no one has any idea which was is up. They had both shipped many FPGA units, and I'd consider the thought that even at that, Tom was more successful at this attempt with FPGAs than BFL was. What, the transparency where he explicitly, willfully and with full knowledge lied about having a prototype that was hashing, when in fact he had absolutely nothing what so ever? And maintained that he had a prototype and was in the process of developing this mythical ASIC with these absurd power numbers, when in fact he had done exactly NOTHING. Not a single thing towards developing an ASIC? You mean that kind of transparency? Don't try to rewrite history. Tom was and is a drunk piece of shit. He's one step away from a scummy used car salesman, nothing more. He lied from day one about his ASIC bullshit and strung people along with no clear ability or path to delivering. BFL has made mistakes, yes, but at least we've always had a clear path forward and we've always intended to deliver a product. Tom... not so much. Transparency... heh. What a joke. Stop trying to rewrite history to bolster your pathetic little argument. I actually had to read this through twice. You've literally described your contribution to the bitcoin world over the last 9 months. The only differences being: 1) You had more investment, you could weather the storm 2) You had the intention of actually making an ASIC Now for a second forget about the bullshit and the "I think you're doing everything wrong", and honestly just read back what you've posted. You think Tom was a horrific person for seemingly valid reasons [assuming its true, I have no intention of verifying that as its irrelevant]. Can you not understand the hatred you [BFL] and you [personally] have garnered over this time period? Every single sentence just seems to describe what's happened in the last year. Except, you now, the part about... umm, all of it, you mean? The point of my post: 1. Tom was unable to handle creating an ASIC. 2. BFL had the intention of making an ASIC, Tom apparently did not, although this is speculative, maybe he did, but he did a piss poor job of it. Contrast to BFL who A) Is and was able to handle creating an ASIC and B) had the intention of making an ASIC. So your post is complete nonsense. Is does not describe BFL in any way, shape or form. Try again. You are at 100% fail so far in this thread, can you maybe make a single post where you don't fall flat on your face? *sigh* I was being nice, and I didn't/don't disagree with 1. and 2.. I can understand why you're so defensive, I would be with the amount of shit hurled at you. Its up to you if you want to try and understand why the shit is hurled, or you can just attack anyone who walks near you. Maybe if you took some time to understand why, then you'd [bfl] have a better chance at fixing it and a lot easier time. Its up to you, its not my long term mental health that is at risk. |
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They got exactly 0 ASICS. Which is, at the time it all occurred, the same number of ASICs that were delivered by BFL, or anyone for that matter. The key difference is that Tom of bASIC tried to maintain complete transparency, so when things started to turn sour, it was very apparent that it was occurring. BFL's underhanded tactics on the other hand have muddied the waters so thoroughly no one has any idea which was is up. They had both shipped many FPGA units, and I'd consider the thought that even at that, Tom was more successful at this attempt with FPGAs than BFL was. What, the transparency where he explicitly, willfully and with full knowledge lied about having a prototype that was hashing, when in fact he had absolutely nothing what so ever? And maintained that he had a prototype and was in the process of developing this mythical ASIC with these absurd power numbers, when in fact he had done exactly NOTHING. Not a single thing towards developing an ASIC? You mean that kind of transparency? Don't try to rewrite history. Tom was and is a drunk piece of shit. He's one step away from a scummy used car salesman, nothing more. He lied from day one about his ASIC bullshit and strung people along with no clear ability or path to delivering. BFL has made mistakes, yes, but at least we've always had a clear path forward and we've always intended to deliver a product. Tom... not so much. Transparency... heh. What a joke. Stop trying to rewrite history to bolster your pathetic little argument. I actually had to read this through twice. You've literally described your contribution to the bitcoin world over the last 9 months. The only differences being: 1) You had more investment, you could weather the storm 2) You had the intention of actually making an ASIC Now for a second forget about the bullshit and the "I think you're doing everything wrong", and honestly just read back what you've posted. You think Tom was a horrific person for seemingly valid reasons [assuming its true, I have no intention of verifying that as its irrelevant]. Can you not understand the hatred you [BFL] and you [personally] have garnered over this time period? Every single sentence just seems to describe what's happened in the last year. |
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1. Get chrome.
2. Use gmail.
3. Desktop notifications for Gmail.
I have Chrome, I use Gmail, but I don't see any way to make those two things do what I'm asking. I can't see any pm notification related settings in settings, nor any way to make it email me. |
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Your liabilities section is all bullshit. You can put whatever you want in a contract, but if its not legal then its as if it didn't exist. I really hope your partner owns your house, as if they're a scam/fail then you're going absolutely bankrupt with the liability. And don't tell me "its being done by lawyer", I would rip that contract to shreds in court.
Dogie, you can disagree as much as you like with us, but I ask that you be civil about it. As stated in numerous places this is only an early draft and anything may change. You may be quite right that some statements may not be legal, at minimum in your jurisdiction - I am not a lawyer, that's why we hired a law firm to review it. Further, if you don't like the upcoming legally binding contract, you do not have to buy a product from us or if you own one, you can request a full refund under the terms stated. We could have waited until Monday to provide only the legal version, but we released this early to allow people to judge as to whether or not they are ok with our intended sales contract proposal, and yes we welcome feedback. And lastly, we should actually thank you, as you were the one who suggested we should have a sales contract in the previous thread. So thank you. Regards, Luis I am being civil, I'm actually trying to help you specifically. Unfortunately the damage has been done and you now have 6.5TH of orders which you are liable for if they go missing. Its not about my jurisdiction or state, its the whole basis of this group buy and others trying to pass on liability - it just can't be done. You are offering a product, and you have a supplier. If your supplier scams you, its your responsibility. The buyers all bought a product from YOU, if YOU can't provide it then you have to refund them in full. Seriously, this entire thing is a disaster waiting to happen. If they turn out to be a scam, you'll be accountable for every penny. I don't remember suggesting a sales contract directly either. |
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I'd be happy to verify. I have no affiliations with anyone, ever.
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Hello everyone, Please find below a link to an unofficial draft copy of our intended sales contract. As stated in the document, any and all words, conditions, obligations etc may still change pending our lawyer's final review and recommendations; however, I don't anticipate any drastic changes. Given we still have some time until we can meet with our lawyers on Monday to acquire the final version, please feel free to review it and provide any feedback, concerns, suggestions etc. I look forward to your comments! The PDF has a password. The password is: NOT LEGALLY BINDING DRAFT COPY View document here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz7CvNpsvWycUm1yb015UzFjbFU/edit?usp=sharingThank you for your patience thus far with this process, Luis Your liabilities section is all bullshit. You can put whatever you want in a contract, but if its not legal then its as if it didn't exist. I really hope your partner owns your house, as if they're a scam/fail then you're going absolutely bankrupt with the liability. And don't tell me "its being done by lawyer", I would rip that contract to shreds in court. |
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Is anyone able to code up a quick popup to notify me of PMs on the site? If its from scratch and unproven, please post the sauce. Is there something premade for this function?
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